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Many feels that if he has 33 elected members of Parliament, then it should only be 33 and not 36 as three extra members has been sworn in.

PPP/C says State militarisation, growing bureaucracy worrying

 

President David Granger

President David Granger

Jobs for the boys…

 … Granger appoints ‘endorsers’ to key posts

 

By Michael Younge

President David Granger on Thursday announced the appointment of three advisers on youth, national security and environment respectively.

The Government Information Agency (GINA), in a release to the media, on Thursday said that the President has appointed former People’s National Congress (PNC) parliamentarian Aubrey Norton to the post of Presidential Adviser on Youth Empowerment; retired Guyana Defence Force (GDF)Brigadier Edward Collins as National Security Adviser and Rear Admiral (rtd) Gary Best as Adviser on Environment.

Norton had challenged Granger for the position of leader of the PNC Reform and had accused the President who was in charge of the affairs of the party, of rigging the internal elections. Norton had also heavily criticised Granger’s leadership style and the fact that he was unwilling to allow new blood to enter the party that would offer different views and perspectives on the way forward for the dying PNC. A few months later as elections were nigh upon the party, Norton disappeared, becoming mum on both the internal and external domestic political situation here. He later resurfaced on the campaign trail for the coalition campaigning on the A Partnership for National Unity+Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) ticket.

Collins, who had close links to the PNCR and participated in their 2011 demonstrations when he was shot with pellets, retired from the GDF under the cloud of the disappearance of several high-powered weapons from that institution. Meanwhile, Best was promoted several times under the People’s Progressive Party/ Civic (PPP/C) Government.  Best was also elevated to the rank of Rear Admiral by former President Donald Ramotar. Days before the General and Regional Elections, he endorsed Granger’s party.

Militarisation

In a swift response, PPP/C General Secretary Clement Rohee said that it was clear that the things his party warned Guyanese about on the campaign trail are coming to pass. “This is just the tip of the iceberg. What you notice is happening is exactly what we said would happen that there would be a heavy influence of the former military, the military and Police Force on those appointed posts under this Government’s tenure,” Rohee remarked.

He said he was not surprised that appointments such as these are made as the President was rewarding those who he saw fit with postings in his Government. Rohee also questioned whether Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo, who should be one of Granger’s advisers, had an input in making recommendations for the trio to be appointed. “This appears to be the President’s prerogative. I think we have disregarded the notion that Nagamootoo is advising the President a long time now on these appointments,” he said.

He said that Guyanese will see more appointments of this nature being made because the party in power had always been highly militarised. “We also need to pay attention to this growing white-collar bureaucracy that is being created by the new Government. It seems to have no end. Taxpayers will face the burden of financing such a big bureaucratic Government,” Rohee concluded.

Apart from Best and Collins, President Granger has also appointed his former Army colleagues, Joseph Harmon as Minister of State with responsibility for the Ministry of the Presidency; and Mark Archer was appointed as Director of Communications within the Ministry of the Presidency. He has also appointed Winston Felix, who served as Police Commissioner under the PPP/C, as Minister of Citizenship.

JOBS FOR THE BOYS

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Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

You guys are now seeing this??? The PPP (not that they are any better) warned you guys!! You got them for 5 years...unless protest can shorten their term (like they did 2 times) for the PPP

I am happy that the PPP was kicked to the curb. Jagdeo and Ramotar cannot run for Presidency in the next election. Who will head up your PPP?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

I think we are seeing the making of a dictator. The AFC et al need to wake up before it's too late and we have an Idi Amin on our hands.

HAHAHAHAHA  I hope and wish you were awake just before May 11.  The ship has sailed!!  DICTATORSHIP AND MILITARY RULE IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!

Nehru

Imagine PPP getting all bassidy over two military men becoming advisors. Has it occurred that Gary Best served the Oligarch-in-Chief faithfully and the army never overthrow the PPP? Has it occurred that Venezuela is back and the President will need all the help he can get on security advise while the cabinet has to deal with bad infrastructure, frittered finances, flooding, disease and all...

FM
Originally Posted by TK:

Imagine PPP getting all bassidy over two military men becoming advisors. Has it occurred that Gary Best served the Oligarch-in-Chief faithfully and the army never overthrow the PPP? Has it occurred that Venezuela is back and the President will need all the help he can get on security advise while the cabinet has to deal with bad infrastructure, frittered finances, flooding, disease and all...

TK

 

Looking back, some of your predictions about Guyana and it's economy were bang on.

 

What's next ?

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

I think we are seeing the making of a dictator. The AFC et al need to wake up before it's too late and we have an Idi Amin on our hands.

HAHAHAHAHA  I hope and wish you were awake just before May 11.  The ship has sailed!!  DICTATORSHIP AND MILITARY RULE IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!

Guyana comes first. I am still celebrating the PPP/C's loss. The forensic audits will be getting professional help from Canada and the USA and well as volunteers from Guyanese professionals in the Diaspora.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by TK:

Imagine PPP getting all bassidy over two military men becoming advisors. Has it occurred that Gary Best served the Oligarch-in-Chief faithfully and the army never overthrow the PPP? Has it occurred that Venezuela is back and the President will need all the help he can get on security advise while the cabinet has to deal with bad infrastructure, frittered finances, flooding, disease and all...

TK

 

Looking back, some of your predictions about Guyana and it's economy were bang on.

 

What's next ?

Jagdeo was cooking the numbers...growth much slower. Those ignorant brutes destroyed all the statistical agencies in Guyana because they want to hide the facts. If the next govt is honest I see stagnant economy for next three years, possibly negative growth. Don't know if they will have the guts to release the right numbers. But the new MOF said two weeks ago he will update all the statistical agencies. That's an enlightened position...let's wait and see.

FM

Through the looking glass with TK.  You have said it.  I predicted it.  There will be negative growth for the next five years.  Without remittances and granger's begging bowl, Guyana is going, as Nehru said, for Channa.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Through the looking glass with TK.  You have said it.  I predicted it.  There will be negative growth for the next five years.  Without remittances and granger's begging bowl, Guyana is going, as Nehru said, for Channa.

Under the PPP/C we saw growth without improvement in democracy or social inclusion.That's voiceless growth; one form of negative growth.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by TK:

Imagine PPP getting all bassidy over two military men becoming advisors. Has it occurred that Gary Best served the Oligarch-in-Chief faithfully and the army never overthrow the PPP? Has it occurred that Venezuela is back and the President will need all the help he can get on security advise while the cabinet has to deal with bad infrastructure, frittered finances, flooding, disease and all...

Yes, it has occurred to many but their conclusions might be different because of many factors. Any government coming in will make claims to justify its legitimacy. Look, you are very educated and smart enough to know that lots of what we are getting is about narrative. Do you really think that Venezuela will take any action? One of the advisers was for environmental issues. Give me about a break. how is it relevant that they served as leaders in the armed forces And they have not overthrown the legitimate government. There are broader issues here with these appointments and to make light of concerns that people might have is below you.

Z
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Through the looking glass with TK.  You have said it.  I predicted it.  There will be negative growth for the next five years.  Without remittances and granger's begging bowl, Guyana is going, as Nehru said, for Channa.

Under the PPP/C we saw growth without improvement in democracy or social inclusion.That's voiceless growth; one form of negative growth.

Mitwah, what is "negative growth"? Seems very bureaucratic. generally, it's usage is for spin.

Z
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

I think we are seeing the making of a dictator. The AFC et al need to wake up before it's too late and we have an Idi Amin on our hands.

Serve allyou right. Wait until you feel the sharp end of the bamboo.

FM

I am thrilled to see President Granger run an authoritarian Government for the simple reason that I repose little confidence in the PNC Beat/Kill Nuff Coolie Faction and the AFC Rice Tycoons-in-Waiting Faction.

 

With the exception of President Granger, I have nothing but contempt for the whole lot. I suspect the new Government is ONLY working because of President Granger. Otherwise, this loose confederation of usually warring tribes will be running amok.

 

However, this is still a short term solution while systems and peoples are being put in place so that we no longer need authoritarianism as our de facto go to philosophy of government.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

I think we are seeing the making of a dictator. The AFC et al need to wake up before it's too late and we have an Idi Amin on our hands.

Serve allyou right. Wait until you feel the sharp end of the bamboo.

He is smarter than Jagdeo and Ramotar. So like you stop selling Kero and now selling Bamboo seeds.  

Mitwah
Originally Posted by alena06:

How long ago did I post on this board that we are heading towards a military dictatorship. 

 

Do you even know what a military dictatorship is? Can you define it for us?

FM
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Through the looking glass with TK.  You have said it.  I predicted it.  There will be negative growth for the next five years.  Without remittances and granger's begging bowl, Guyana is going, as Nehru said, for Channa.

Under the PPP/C we saw growth without improvement in democracy or social inclusion.That's voiceless growth; one form of negative growth.

Mitwah, what is "negative growth"? Seems very bureaucratic. generally, it's usage is for spin.

Full credit to Uncle Rama; he knows. He must have done Bus101... For me it's simply economic growth goes wrong and have a negative impact on society. Growth can be bad as well as good; economic growth and human progress should be mutually reinforcing. What about growth  that only benefits the rich, and leaves the poor in their poverty or more poverty? What about growth that depletes our resources, destroys the environment and insidiously weakens future generations? What about  growth  that does not create new employment opportunities?

 

Mitwah
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by TK:

Imagine PPP getting all bassidy over two military men becoming advisors. Has it occurred that Gary Best served the Oligarch-in-Chief faithfully and the army never overthrow the PPP? Has it occurred that Venezuela is back and the President will need all the help he can get on security advise while the cabinet has to deal with bad infrastructure, frittered finances, flooding, disease and all...

TK, I defer to your expertise as an economist. Please list the sources that indicate that the rate of growth was lo

 

Looking back, some of your predictions about Guyana and it's economy were bang on.

 

What's next ?

Jagdeo was cooking the numbers...growth much slower. Those ignorant brutes destroyed all the statistical agencies in Guyana because they want to hide the facts. If the next govt is honest I see stagnant economy for next three years, possibly negative growth. Don't know if they will have the guts to release the right numbers. But the new MOF said two weeks ago he will update all the statistical agencies. That's an enlightened position...let's wait and see.

TK, I defer to your expertise as an economist. For my info, please indicate the source for the statement that growth was much lower than what the government had announced. Regarding your prediction of "negative growth" or no growth for the next three years, what will account for this? Sugar industry? Rice price?, Gold price? Lower government stimulus in the economy? Tight monetary policy by the Bank of Guyana? Investor confidence? Etc or it because as you hold that growth rates were fudged. From my friends who are in business, they report that things have really slowed down after the elections. 

Z
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Through the looking glass with TK.  You have said it.  I predicted it.  There will be negative growth for the next five years.  Without remittances and granger's begging bowl, Guyana is going, as Nehru said, for Channa.

Under the PPP/C we saw growth without improvement in democracy or social inclusion.That's voiceless growth; one form of negative growth.

Mitwah, what is "negative growth"? Seems very bureaucratic. generally, it's usage is for spin.

Full credit to Uncle Rama; he knows. He must have done Bus101... For me it's simply economic growth goes wrong and have a negative impact on society. Growth can be bad as well as good; economic growth and human progress should be mutually reinforcing. What about growth  that only benefits the rich, and leaves the poor in their poverty or more poverty? What about growth that depletes our resources, destroys the environment and insidiously weakens future generations? What about  growth  that does not create new employment opportunities?

 

Thanks for the explanation, that clarifies for me what you mean by "negative growth."

Z
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

We are having too many chiefs. The top is becoming too heavy.

Of course the AFC's insistence on 12 MP seats when they deserved no more than 5-7 had nothing to do with this.

 

Granger has to keep Norton by his side.  Like they say about keeping your enemies closer.  Linden is about to start demanding their shake for delivering more votes than Moses brought from the PPP.  Better for Norton to be INSIDE than outside pelting stones.

FM

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