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Now we see some numbers....good. The numbers Rev added shows that the AFC INCREASED their percentage of votes from 2006 to 2011. But Ii said that before so Rev's revelation of support for the thesis that the AFC may break out of the 3rd party mold and become a 33% party is not really a revelation by him.

Rev failed to understand my polemic in the opening comments about the question of 3rd party or a 3-party mix. Then again English Comprehension (or numbers) are not his forte. His literacy continues to be questionable.

We can ignore his emotional content (that's all he writes - emotional, psychotic crap - look at his threads on Social) - such as Moses becoming Stale Bread and his freshness becoming smelly, musty, and stagnant. All emotional words with no basis in reason, figures or facts.

Contrary to the barking of its detractors, the AFC is growing from strength.

Thinking Guyanese understand that the AFC and APNU voted similarly in parliament on an issue-by-issue basis against the corrupt PPP.

As it did in 2006 and 2011, the AFC will contest coming elections solo.

And, as I pointed out three or four weeks ago, Moses Nagamootoo will be the AFC Presidential candidate and a prominent and lovely Afro-Guyanese woman will be the AFC Prime Ministerial candidate.

That combination will make Rohee's knees wobble.

What is the phrase again?

NO COALITION BUT POLITICAL COOPERATION WITH THE PPP AND PNC IN PARLIAMENT.

Good move AFC.

Kishan...enough of pictures we have seen a thousand times...you will just sink a discussion revealing the failings of some on GNI

The pictures are more effective than the jaco Waco narratives. Who is complaining?

* KARIMULLAH YOU CAN VERBALLY MASTURBATE ABOUT YOUR "POLEMIC" FROM NOW UNTIL THY KINGDOM COME.

* You are engaging in fantasy and wishful thinking when you posit that the AFC could one day have the same gravitas as the PPP and PNC in Guyana politics and match those 2 parties in terms of votes acquired in a general election.

* The fact is the AFC is destined to remain a 3rd party in Guyana's politics. And I have already pointed out that the best performance by a 3rd party in Guyana's election history was the 12.3% the UF achieved in 1964. The AFC will struggle mightily to match that 12.3%.

* In my estimation, the AFC peaked in 2011. The next AFC leader Moses Nagamootoo is stale bread in Guyana's politics. He lacks the freshness and vigor and originality to catalyze the AFC into a genuine, bonafide political party in Guyana, on the same level as the PPP and PNC.

* BUT KEEP ON DREAMING AND FANTASIZING KARIMULLAH.

Rev

Mr. Moderator:

* Thanks for deleting the pornographic photos kishan posted. Excellent job! Keep the threads clean.

Rev

gilbakka:

* The AFC received 8.1% of the votes in 2006 and 10.3% of the votes in 2011. Now, if the AFC were to surpass the 12.3% of the votes the UF received in 1964, most by a 3rd party in Guyana's history, then I'd be convinced they are growing from strength to strength like you mentioned.

* But like I said, I rather suspect the AFC peaked at 10.3% in 2011. You and karimullah's hero Moses Nagamootoo has become stale bread in Guyana.

* But let's be patient. The elections will hopefully be held in a few months and we'll all see the real numbers. We'll find out if the AFC did, indeed, peak in 2011 at 10.3% or if they are like you said "growing from strength to strength."

Rev

LOL! Rev ass kissing.

man...like you missed the thread where I said repetitive pictures and posts will subject the the poster to a few days off...

It is stupid practice and very juvenile

 China man says: Pitcha worth 1000 words!

* Looks like karimullah has run away from this thread. I see him starting multiple meaningless threads in Political taking cheap shots at his fellow posters.

* KARIMULLASH CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH.

* And the truth is the AFC is destined to remain a 3rd party in Guyana politics and will never have the same gravitas as the PPP and PNC.---the 10.3% the AFC received in 2011 will mark their peak.

Rev

90% of DG's posts advise other forum members to look for some proverbial man in the mirror. Will you give him time off for this or does he get a break for being old and demented?

Historical trends..GAIL, GUMP, ROAR, UF,WPA etc.

Keep in mind also that the leaders are very ambitious individuals. At some point in time we will see a power struggle and an implosion. Guyanese kultcha!

Rev a fan sent me dis pitcha. Don't get emotional now!

Until someone find the man in the mirror, I see no problem

The People will be reminded:

Actually this might reflect more dissatisfaction within the bases of the two major parties.  You will note that the PPP lost 4 seats but APNU gained 3 seats, so benefitted more from shifts than did the AFC.

APNU did a solid job in getting its mainly African and mixed voter base out, and it apparently benefitted from the shifting of much of G/towns population to the WBD, as its region 3 vote increased significantly.

The AFC benefitted from a loss of support in Regions 5 and 6 where Nagamootoo had support.  He wasn't able to use this to make inroads into Regions 2 and 3, where voter turn out declined.

So I am really not sure if the AFC has established a core base as the PPP and APNU definitely have, even if shrinking.

The problem that the AFC has is the perception that they cant win, and that they will have to rely on one of the major parties to have any impact.  Even you stated that its joint action with APNU which has led to some successes.

  APNU has a problem and that is the legacy of the "slo fiah mo fiah" era which cost them some of its middle class base, as the defection of people like Trotman and Hughes indicates.  So they will gladly "let" the AFC be the more aggressive parties. They also know that it is to their benefit if AFC activities pull Indian votes away from the PPP, or cause them to simplay not vote at all.

The AFC has emerged as an intermediary party which consists of the blacks who Indians can work with, and the Indians who black can work with.  I only wonder if the Guyanese electorate is sophisticated enough to understand the usefulness of this.

* The people were reminded in 2011 and this was the result:

48.6%---PPP

40.8%---PNC

10.3%---AFC

* THE AFC GOT 10.3% IN 2011, and that likely is their peak. It will be all downhill from there.

* Now in the last 3 years President Ramotar, who was a newbie in 2011, has won the trust and confidence of many more Guyanese.

* And in the meantime PPP HATER Moses Nagamootoo has become STALE, SMELLY, STINKY, SOUR bread.

Rev

The moderator should ban you for changing my post.

* I didn't change your post Mitwah. I just chose not to re-post that silly photo.

* Moderator Raymond said no reposting of silly photos. I guess you are testing his patience.

Rev

Guyana today is not the country that it was even 20 years ago.  As the older folks die off and as a post independence generation dominates the legacy of the 60s wears off.  While I don't see the AFC ever winning an election, I do see a softening and shrinking of the support bases of the major parties giving them a place which the older parties lacked.

The UF failed because it was a party built for a group of people who subsequently left Guyana.  The Portuguese and mulatto middle class.  They succeeded in getting much of the Amerindian vote because of the influence of the Catholic church.

Well UF supporters mainly fled to Guyana, and the Catholic church is a shadow of itself.  The UF failed to transform itself to attract a new support base. 

Rev it is clear that all that motivates you is a blind hatred of blacks (we all remember your bigoted rants against Obama in 2012 and derogatory remarks against Guyanese blacks, and blacks in general) is all that motivates you.

Because ever single reasonable and open minded PPP supporters will recognize the following;

1. The PPP has failed to attract the African, and more interestingly, the mixed vote. The part of the electorate which is expanding fastest is the mixed vote, so this becomes part of a demographic time bomb against the PPP especially combined with.

2.  The Indian population is shrinking as many join their families overseas  and

3. Many Indians are tired of being used by the PPP and are looking for an alternative.  They are less motivated by fear of Afro Guyanese, and while they will not support the PNC, apology or not, they will not vote based simply on fear of them.

So an honest PPP supporter would instead by attempting to discuss what the PPP did wrong, how could it regain support within its base, and how it can make inroads into the African and the emerging mixed vote.

But you engage in vulgarity instead.

No I think that he is busy doing some thing else.  I fully expect his return later today or at some point tomorrow as he never afraid of a fight unless it become vulgar, which happens too often here.

I am hearing that the AFC is being seen by many blacks as an alternate Indian party.  The Indians who don't like the PPP gravitate to the AFC.

If you put a giant like Nagamootoo with a black woman who is merely symbolic, I expect this perception do deepen.  As you have seen Sam Hinds has been completely unable to make any break through for the PPP into the African/mixed vote.  That because people see him lacking in clout.

Not that they are opposed to this perception because they see it achieving the goal of splitting the Indian vote.

* CARIB! CUT THE BULLSHIT AND STOP THE NONSENSE.

* I am a strong supporter of the PPP. I believe that the PPP is the party best equipped to lead Guyana to continued growth and development.

* What madness you are blabbering about hating blacks. It is clear you are who harbors tons of hate.

Rev

Raymond, would you like me to respond in kind to the above?

Raymond, would you like me to respond in kind to his statement re Moses & Prakash?

Mitwah, you shamelessly attack yuji on a daily basis and Ray shows a blind eye to your attacks.

I did not stoop to your levels and never will.

You belong to the gutter. You are an utter disgrace to Indos and Hindus.

Guys, cool it..let's stop the hatred and name calling.

You are a dangerous brainwashed " Charles M." among our midst.

This is why I don't want to respond in kind to his gutterish.. let's don't forget he drank a lot of trench water at #59.

are you Moses or Ramjattan? Don't you attack the PPP folks? You tend to attack people personally and you still posting the same pics over and over again...

I am trying hard to comply with your request. So far, I have been refraining, from the personal attacks.  I will continue to post the pictures. It's my constitutional right. I will not subscribe to that kind of censoring.

ok...guess you want some free time

Some of yuo come on here quoting scriptures and then engage in some nasty insulting stuff

* STALE BREAD MOSES WILL FINALLY REALIZE HIS LIFE LONG DREAM IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION.

* Moses always dreamed of being a PPP presidential candidate, and of course, his bigger dream was to be President of Guyana.

* BUT THAT SOUR OLD FART WAS PUSHED OUT OF THE PPP.

* In the upcoming election, he will finally realize his dream. He gets to be the AFC's presidential candidate.

* Let's see if STALE BREAD Moses will top the 10.3% Rum Jhatt got in 2011.

Rev

* YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT ABOUT THAT CARIB!

* Guyana is surely not the country it was 20 years ago.

* 20 years ago Guyana was broke and bankrupt, thanks to your beloved PNC. But Today the PPP has Guyana pointed in the right direction.

* But Guyanese people need to be wary.

* STALE BREAD MOSES NAGAMOOTOO AND THE AFC WANT TO WALK THE COUNTRY BACKWARDS.

* That must never happen. The PPP must be given a majority in the next election.

Rev