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US-Israel rift over Iran widens; no Obama-Netanyahu meeting

Reuters:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaks during a news conference Tuesday in Jerusalem where he made threats to attack Iran if the U.S. and other allies don't.

Ties between the United States and Israel showed new signs of strain on Tuesday, after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu criticized the U.S. for not taking a harder line on Iran. The White House, for its part, denied an Israeli source's claim that President Barack Obama had refused Netanyahu's request for a meeting later this month during the U.N. General Assembly.

 

"The president arrives in New York for the U.N. on Monday, September 24th, and departs on Tuesday, September 25th," said National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor. "The prime minister doesn't arrive in New York until later in the week. They're simply not in the city at the same time.

"But the president and PM are in frequent contact," he added, "and the PM will meet with other senior officials, including Secretary (Hillary) Clinton, during his visit."An Israeli official earlier told Reuters on condition of anonymity that Netanyahu's aides had asked for a meeting and "the White House has got back to us and said it appears a meeting is not possible. It said that the president's schedule will not permit that". 

 

Netanyahu, who has met Obama on all his U.S. trips since 2009, has been pushing him to adopt a tougher line against Iran.

He argues that setting a clear boundary for Iran's uranium enrichment activities and imposing stronger economic sanctions could deter Tehran from developing nuclear weapons and mitigate the need for military action.


In comments that appeared to bring the possibility of an Israeli attack on Iran closer, Netanyahu had earlier taken Washington to task for rebuffing his call to set a "red line" for Iran's nuclear program, which has already prompted four rounds of U.N. sanctions.

 

"The world tells Israel 'Wait, there's still time'. And I say, 'Wait for what? Wait until when?'," Netanyahu said Tuesday, speaking in English.

"Those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don't have a moral right to place a red light before Israel," he added, addressing a news conference with Bulgaria's prime minister.

 

The website of Israel's daily newspaper Haaretz called his words "an unprecedented verbal attack on the U.S. government".
Iran makes no secret of its hostility to Israel, widely assumed to be the region's only nuclear-armed power, but says its nuclear program is purely peaceful.

 

Netanyahu's relations with Obama have been strained over Iran and other issues, such as Jewish settlement building in the occupied West Bank.

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Jerusalem Countdown

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Jerusalem Countdown: A Warning to the World is a book written in 2006 by American pastor John Hagee which interprets the Bible to predict that Russia and the Islamic states will invade Israel and will be destroyed by God. This will cause the antichrist, the head of the European Union, to create a confrontation over Israel between China and the West. A final battle between East and West at Armageddon will then precipitate the Second Coming of Christ.[1]


Hagee asserts that "the reason for the continual conflict over the city of Jerusalem is theology" because the Qur'an instructed believers "to kill and maim anyone who did not believe in Allah or in Muhammad his prophet.".[2]

 

He also claims that when Jeremiah prophesied in the Bible that "I will send for many hunters, and they will hunt them down on every mountain and hill and from the crevices of the rocks," he was foreseeing The Holocaust. "The hunter is one who pursues his target with force and fear," Hagee writes. "No one could see the horror of the Holocaust coming, but the force and fear of Hitler's Nazis drove the Jewish people back to the only home that God ever intended for the Jews to have—Israel."[3] He has made the same claim in a sermon.[4]


Controversy:

Hagee's statements about the Qur'an are in contrast to passages asserting that anyone who believes in God and his Prophets, the so called " People of the Book", are equal in the eyes of God.[5] The actually also mentions the second coming of Christ as the end of days.

 

In many instances, the Qur'an also mentions that "O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people." Sura 5:54 [6]and "Fight unbelievers who are near to you..." or another translation... "Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you.  


Let them find harshness in you..." or "Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers..." Sura 9:123 [7] "Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell." - Sura 33:60 [8] "Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell." - Sura 41:14 [9] So it appears that there is a basis for Hagee's story of conflict between Muslims and the Christian and the Jew.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Jerusalem Countdown

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Jerusalem Countdown: A Warning to the World is a book written in 2006 by American pastor John Hagee which interprets the Bible to predict that Russia and the Islamic states will invade Israel and will be destroyed by God. This will cause the antichrist, the head of the European Union, to create a confrontation over Israel between China and the West. A final battle between East and West at Armageddon will then precipitate the Second Coming of Christ.[1]

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Let them find harshness in you..." or "Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers..." Sura 9:123 [7] "Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell." - Sura 33:60 [8] "Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell." - Sura 41:14 [9] So it appears that there is a basis for Hagee's story of conflict between Muslims and the Christian and the Jew.

And you believe all of that bilge?

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Jerusalem Countdown

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Jerusalem Countdown: A Warning to the World is a book written in 2006 by American pastor John Hagee which interprets the Bible to predict that Russia and the Islamic states will invade Israel and will be destroyed by God. This will cause the antichrist, the head of the European Union, to create a confrontation over Israel between China and the West. A final battle between East and West at Armageddon will then precipitate the Second Coming of Christ.[1]

 ,,,,,,,


Let them find harshness in you..." or "Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers..." Sura 9:123 [7] "Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell." - Sura 33:60 [8] "Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell." - Sura 41:14 [9] So it appears that there is a basis for Hagee's story of conflict between Muslims and the Christian and the Jew.

And you believe all of that bilge?

Don't worry what I believe. listen to what Chief said above might make better sense.

FM

 

Absolutely yes!

Israel rules the Middle East by proxy. The US is that proxy.

If Israel tells the USA to commit suicide for Israel, the USA will do it. "Yes my Jewish master".

 

Israel is the reason for all of the US problems. All the wars US fights are for the sake of Israel even if the impact on American lives is damaging.

 

Israel will destroyed the USA in the same way as they ruined the Egyptians in the bible.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Chief:

Dont be surprised if Obama pander to Israel and  do attack Iran before the elections.


lIKE SHIT HOLD YUH ALREADY

Beautiful

May be time to start the WWIII, the war of the final and dramatic collapse of the USA.

 

Remember that that the USA economy almost collapsed in 2007-2009 as result of the Iraq war. Iraq has 20 million people. Imagine a war against a 70 million people country like Iran. China will become the largest economy in a week after the war starts.

FM
Originally Posted by Lucas:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Chief:

Dont be surprised if Obama pander to Israel and  do attack Iran before the elections.


lIKE SHIT HOLD YUH ALREADY

Beautiful

May be time to start the WWIII, the war of the final and dramatic collapse of the USA.

 

Remember that that the USA economy almost collapsed in 2007-2009 as result of the Iraq war. Iraq has 20 million people. Imagine a war against a 70 million people country like Iran. China will become the largest economy in a week after the war starts.

 Who will be victorious in a third world war?  You are an ass. The military stock piles of the various super powers are sufficient to be an extinction event in such a war. There can be no winners if everyone is dead and the planet an irradiated wasteland only habitable by insects.

 

And get off your ignorant prattle about china being the largest economy. It is still ways from that and with much of its people on less than a dollar a day that means little.  Further, it is a suffocatingly oppressive society a litttle step above North Korea in its administrative organization. Creatitivy in an oppressive environment is an oxymoron.

FM

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