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 Justice was and will always be racial in Guyana as long as the GPF is dominated by one ethnic group.When you have an all bleck jury they will free a black person even when the evidence is overwhelming especially if the crime was committed on a non bleck. Look at traffic violations charge almost 90% are  non bleck likewise littering in GT. Notice how quick the police does put out wanted bulletin for non bleck. The Judiciary is worse there are many instances of this.

R
Prince posted:

A while back, I posted a thread where two career thieve of African descent were caught red handed on a break and enter mission, and they were given six months by a judge. Last week, an Indian man stole toilet paper, and he was given two years in prison for his crime. Something is wrong here, or it's just me?

Looks like some of the Judges are discriminating.

Prince can you point to the article.

Django
Prince posted:

A while back, I posted a thread where two career thieve of African descent were caught red handed on a break and enter mission, and they were given six months by a judge. Last week, an Indian man stole toilet paper, and he was given two years in prison for his crime. Something is wrong here, or it's just me?

What the hell are you talking about? Buddy got away from smuggling charges because the prosecution could not affirm diesel was a petroleum product...strange but true. Remember the Polar water case? How about the GRB head son rape charge...not heard yet...or Ramotar's son drunk driving. Mool Persaud was caught with 45 kilos of cocaine and he walked. A pregnant girl with a 3 year old child was sentenced to 3 years in jail for a few oz of ganja. You should not let your prejudice get ahead of your reasoning.

FM
Nehru posted:

Why the Lusignan Massacre MONSTERS going to spend ONLY 12 years in Jail for such a HORRIFIC Crime?? Any answer????????

I do not know the sentencing guidelines. I believe someone there got 60 years. If you are going to make a case here of prejudice then you have to show in similar brutish instance an Indian was given the max...life. I agree the penalty should be life but I have not read the trial reports as to why this fellow was given a lesser sentence. Maybe he cooperated and cut a deal so the can convict the fellow who got 60 years

FM

Toilet paper thief jailed for 2 years:

Mahase Persaud was slapped with a two-year jail term when he appeared at the Georgetown Magistrates’ Courts before Magistrate Faith McGusty charged with two counts of breaking and entering and larceny.

He pleaded guilty to both charges when they were read to him.

He admitted that between November 28 and November 29, 2016, at the National School of Dance, Thomas Lands, Georgetown, he stole items amounting to $432,000.

Also at the same location, between November 1 and December 1, 2016, he admitted that he stole one DVD Player, one surround sound stereo system, half a bale of toilet paper and other items.

http://www.inewsguyana.com/toi...-jailed-for-2-years/

 
FM
Danyael posted:
Prince posted:

A while back, I posted a thread where two career thieve of African descent were caught red handed on a break and enter mission, and they were given six months by a judge. Last week, an Indian man stole toilet paper, and he was given two years in prison for his crime. Something is wrong here, or it's just me?

What the hell are you talking about? Buddy got away from smuggling charges because the prosecution could not affirm diesel was a petroleum product...strange but true. Remember the Polar water case? How about the GRB head son rape charge...not heard yet...or Ramotar's son drunk driving. Mool Persaud was caught with 45 kilos of cocaine and he walked. A pregnant girl with a 3 year old child was sentenced to 3 years in jail for a few oz of ganja. You should not let your prejudice get ahead of your reasoning.

The Indo KKK think that Indians are an exempt group.  They shouldn't be punished even when the victim is an Indian.  They will then scream that black oppress Indians when in fact ordinary Indians are oppressed by the Indo oligarchs and have been since the 19th C on the sugar estates.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...estamp=1481307116635

Case in point of Indo on Indo violence.

FM
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caribny posted:
Danyael posted:
Prince posted:

A while back, I posted a thread where two career thieve of African descent were caught red handed on a break and enter mission, and they were given six months by a judge. Last week, an Indian man stole toilet paper, and he was given two years in prison for his crime. Something is wrong here, or it's just me?

What the hell are you talking about? Buddy got away from smuggling charges because the prosecution could not affirm diesel was a petroleum product...strange but true. Remember the Polar water case? How about the GRB head son rape charge...not heard yet...or Ramotar's son drunk driving. Mool Persaud was caught with 45 kilos of cocaine and he walked. A pregnant girl with a 3 year old child was sentenced to 3 years in jail for a few oz of ganja. You should not let your prejudice get ahead of your reasoning.

The Indo KKK think that Indians are an exempt group.  They shouldn't be punished even when the victim is an Indian.  They will then scream that black oppress Indians when in fact ordinary Indians are oppressed by the Indo oligarchs and have been since the 19th C on the sugar estates.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...estamp=1481307116635

Case in point of Indo on Indo violence.

Get off your high horse and stay on point. The thread is about the severity of the crime vs the penalty given by the judge is questionable. 

FM
Prince posted:

Get off your high horse and stay on point. The thread is about the severity of the crime vs the penalty given by the judge is questionable. 

There is no racial disparity in the sentencing as you and others suggest. There are just whimsical sentencing where magistrates do not seem to follow any sentencing guidelines.

FM
Prince posted:
 

Get off your high horse and stay on point. The thread is about the severity of the crime vs the penalty given by the judge is questionable. 

Very much on point. Indians under the PPP got away, sometimes literally with murder.  And now you scream.

Did you say anything about the criminals who the PPP protected, especially under Jagdeo? NO!

You think that Indians should be given special status.

FM
Prince posted:

My main focus is on Mahase Persaud, the defendant who was given two years imprisonment for stealing toilet paper vs two Afro-Guyanese, who were given six months for the same offense. Stop running around like a headless chicken and focus. 

And the claim is that justice in Guyana is administered with regard to race.  So you cannot make that assertion unless you place it in larger context.

The larger context says that many powerful people, who happened to be Indian, get away with committing criminal acts.

So on that basis how can you say that crime in Guyana is administered based on race?

FM
caribny posted:

And the claim is that justice in Guyana is administered with regard to race.  So you cannot make that assertion unless you place it in larger context.

The larger context says that many powerful people, who happened to be Indian, get away with committing criminal acts.

So on that basis how can you say that crime in Guyana is administered based on race?

Don't play stupid, you know very well that money talks and bs walks. Given all things equal, the Indian will get punished more severely than the Afro for the same offence and I applaud this as Indos should know better.  The alleged Indo businessmen who get off for criminal activity would be doing this complements of large bribes to Afro police and judges. 

FM
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

And the claim is that justice in Guyana is administered with regard to race.  So you cannot make that assertion unless you place it in larger context.

The larger context says that many powerful people, who happened to be Indian, get away with committing criminal acts.

So on that basis how can you say that crime in Guyana is administered based on race?

Don't play stupid, you know very well that money talks and bs walks. Given all things equal, the Indian will get punished more severely than the Afro for the same offence and I applaud this as Indos should know better.  The alleged Indo businessmen who get off for criminal activity would be doing this complements of large bribes to Afro police and judges. 

You are illogical as they come. First you insist that Indians have all the money so if the money men walks why is it you are claiming they get penalized more? List for me one concrete example that we can investigate and grasp what hammered and if it is as you say the conclusion is inevitable.

FM
Drugb posted:
 

Don't play stupid, you know very well that money talks and bs walks.

Thus making my point that Indo oligarchs benefit from the justice system so that the notion that Indians are singled out for persecution is pure nonsense.

Now if the claim was that the system favored the rich then that will be fair. But to use one case and then scream "black man a jail ahbe" is pure nonsense.

When ordinary Indians stop living vicariously through the 2% (if that) of the population which are oligarchs (mainly Indians) then this will stop.

The notion that some ordinary black man has enough cash to bribe the system, or that APNU cares about them, is a serious joke. A lot of what APNU has done in fact hurts its constituency the most.

Whereas poor Indians, with their Dalit mentality will cuss the Indo elite, but still vote for them APNU will not so benefit if its core base feel abused.

FM
Danyael posted:

You are illogical as they come. First you insist that Indians have all the money so if the money men walks why is it you are claiming they get penalized more? List for me one concrete example that we can investigate and grasp what hammered and if it is as you say the conclusion is inevitable.

Expecting logical thinking from drugb is simplistic.  The man calls himself drugb, clearly indicative of a substance abuse issue.  Such behaviors hardly enhance thinking.

FM
Danyael posted:

You are illogical as they come. First you insist that Indians have all the money so if the money men walks why is it you are claiming they get penalized more? List for me one concrete example that we can investigate and grasp what hammered and if it is as you say the conclusion is inevitable.

Apparently the piwari was not cured properly before consumption. I note that logic is not your stronghold hence the dollar store venture. Who cares for a life buried behind a store counter and come on this board boasting about what they coded in a previous career. Apparently you were a poor coder as you could not survive in the sector.

You will note that the Indo business men as shaken down to pay for sport and wine down by the PNC police and politicians. 

It is the poor Indian who is penalized inequitably compared to Blacks who commit similar offences. 

FM
Drugb posted:
Danyael posted:

You are illogical as they come. First you insist that Indians have all the money so if the money men walks why is it you are claiming they get penalized more? List for me one concrete example that we can investigate and grasp what hammered and if it is as you say the conclusion is inevitable.

Apparently the piwari was not cured properly before consumption. I note that logic is not your stronghold hence the dollar store venture. Who cares for a life buried behind a store counter and come on this board boasting about what they coded in a previous career. Apparently you were a poor coder as you could not survive in the sector.

You will note that the Indo business men as shaken down to pay for sport and wine down by the PNC police and politicians. 

It is the poor Indian who is penalized inequitably compared to Blacks who commit similar offences. 

Dummy...piwari is a beer. It can be consumed any time after a day. You apparently is indeed a grunt programmer else you would not try to slide by with stupid and illogical statements. You insist money talks yet the people supposedly with the most money get talked to. But why am I talking to you who live inside your own head hence your insistence on fantasy about dollar store incessantly. 

FM
Leonora posted:
caribny posted:
Danyael posted:

Expecting logical thinking from drugb is simplistic.  The man calls himself drugb, clearly indicative of a substance abuse issue.  Such behaviors hardly enhance thinking.

You love to shoot crap. The guy's name is D Rugb...

I would not venture to say he is a narcotic abuser but I am perplexed that he live completely in a made up world so one need to explain that.

FM

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