APNU and AFC is the same, no difference, just anti government political parties... They have now morphed into one non entity <<<APNUAFC>>>

Like I said the Budget will separate the Neemakarams from the Patriots!!!!!

The Guyanese populace will see the true intentions of the joint opposition parties, they joint opposition are swiftly running out of criticisms, they can't keep a progressive government down

If it is a real debate and not the bilge you posted then the understanding will be that one side or the other will be proved strong or weak. That the opposition will be proven weak would mean you are a propagandist as usual

Instead of dumbly suggesting they are a rubber stamp you need to provide an example where their action can be  determined to have been so.

Further, it is necessary  to make the autocrats in the PPP accountable. They plainly are not in the habit of demonstrating the necessary appeal for checks and balance. For the AFC to be able to make them conform  they must act in conjunction with the APNU. The PPP clearly has no willingness to abandon their corrupt ways.

TWO LOVERS, PNC AND kfc  k i s s i n g.

According to a well place source, many executive members of the AFC are disgruntled, by their party blinding taking APNU's bate, but are ashamed to speak publicly 

One would presume they can speak for themselves and not ask a PPP shill to be their spokes person! As some one previously noted; the word is bait not bate.

The truth has a sense of revealing itself,in the not too distant further the truth maybe revealed

truths are representation of facts in some language. Truths are transparent because they stand on and exist because of facts. It is the facts that must be revealed. Just making a point of keeping the semantics together since you folks like to put the cart before the horse.

Stormborn why the party you tend to represent is blindly following APNU?

Are you shackled mentally that you need party affiliation to function? Facts stand on their own. Develop the habit of dealing with that than in the fiction you fabricate.

don't dodge from the question stormborm aka GR

Stormborn why the party you tend to represent is blindly following APNU?

It is a question for you not me. I do not believe I represent myself as a spokes person for any party. I represent the articulation of an alternative to your propagandist opinion making.

Alyuh wate till Septemba nah, abie gon put liks pon da PNC.

The Budget debate will revealed the true alliance between the AFC and APNU....

The Guyanese Populace will not allow the joint opposition parties to stand in the path of development

History has proven that parties that allied themselves with the PNC have disappeared from the political scene in less than a decade. The AFC knows better. Fight against the people are you are doomed to oblivion. 

The Guyanese people will know the pirates and plunderers from the good folks as easily as  you are at cross dressing.

The Guyanese people know about Pythons and Piranha.

Indeed they do. The proliferate amongst PPP clan. But a mongoose can solve the former problem and you simply have to eat the latter or be eaten.

I think Flour Man should write a book about his involvement in major corruption and what made him join the AFC after his dismissal.

You think a little too much about muck or you would see the plunderers and pillagers by the accretion of in their when one knows well their only investment is in skimming.

A true Guyanese would never defend anyone who was involved with Flour for it is associated with the most oppressive era in the post colonial Guyana.

GR aka Stormborn is defending his opportunistic buddies, even if he has to sell his dignity...

I wonder how much dignity it took for Ramotar to squat on GUYSUO while it burned beneath him or what was his purpose on OMAI board if not to line his coffers. 

I wonder what is a "True Guyanese" when the Kleptocrats are taken to be saints and the common man framed as  a pilferer. Even if it were true it would be as stealing a loaf compared to stealing the flour mill. These and other attempts at defiling the character of good people do not win battles. They actually make good determined soldiers for the cause of removing their corrupt behinds from power.

How much dignity the AFC has left if any, for being totally controlled by APNU?

As much as you would earn earn trying to sell that piffle for a shilling.

storm borm face the facts, the AFC sold their constituents votes to APNU

I do not see APNU as any greater Satan than the PPP. It so happens one can influence the devil in APNU to control the Devil in the PPP and have them cancel each other out. The AFC holds the winning hand. If the PPP were not such consummate thieves then maybe there may be an option to deal with them. But as with the speaker's role they see power as a zero sum game hence they are to be checkmated at every instant the act over bearing.

Cheddi and Janet Jagan must be turning in their graves – says daughter at memorial

Ms Jagan-Brancier speaking to the audience

“My parents were probably the most incorruptible people you would ever find; their honesty and integrity were of very high standards, but unfortunately do not exist or I don’t see it in many of the leaders of the party and government.”
The comments came from the daughter of the late Guyanese leaders Dr Cheddi Jagan and Mrs Janet Jagan. She said that the current leaders of the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) and government lack “the very, very, very high moral standards” which her parents embodied when they were alive.
Mrs Nadira Jagan-Brancier scolded the party for putting out platforms using her parents’ name— particularly her father’s— and not living up really and truly to what her parents had stood for. “It is not enough to go out there and make lovely speeches about who my parents were, what they did and the legacy that we’re carrying on”.
She said that her parents fought for sugar workers, the poor and down-trodden in Guyana and in the world. “That’s who they stood for, and again, I think the party has moved away— not the party but certain elements in the party— from these very, very important values that held the party together and what makes the PPP what it is and so for me, when I look at some of the things happening, my parents must be turning in their graves— but they must be churning up in the waters of the rivers (in which their ashes were sprinkled)”.
She said that if the PPP is saying that it is following Cheddi Jagan and Janet Jagan as a living guide, “the only way you can follow them is to return to basics, return to who this party is which is the working- class party, obviously you have to support other people, but the base of this party is a working- class party, get back to being a non- corruptible party, so people can’t point a finger and say ‘there is so much corruption, why should we worry?”
The daughter of the late leaders then pleaded with the PPP/C leaders and members to get back to the high and moral values. “If the leaders don’t show the moral values then people won’t do it, and you’re children won’t grow up with moral values. And if your families don’t show moral values, then society as a whole will lose that”.
“Their lives were involved in politics so their time for me and my brother was very limited…They weren’t there the amount of hours that most people would have their parents around, but the times that they were, it was what they called quality time, not quantity…so the times they spent with us— memories that I will have for the rest of my life”.
She noted that her parents were very normal, simple, and humble people and a “very, very loving couple”. She recalled sitting down for breakfast in the mornings around the family table and listening to the news from Guyana or the BBC “and you weren’t allowed to talk”.
She noted that they lived very simple lives and told the gathering that the house in which her parents once lived, is now open to the public. “The house is there and I really encourage people to use the opportunity to go in Bel Air and see the house where they lived…They lived a very simple life; they didn’t have big ostentatious homes that you see nowadays that government officials and party officials have, which is a very sad thing, personally”.
Ms Jagan- Brancier also encouraged persons to visit the Cheddi Jagan Research Centre in Kingston. “This was when my father was Premier from 1961 to 1964”.
“Most people think of my mom as only writing for the Mirror and other political things; my mom wrote a lot of children stories— I hope that people who have children would know this. She was also a poet and wrote some beautiful poems.”
Mrs Jagan’s prison diary, she said, are all important documents that Mrs Jagan-Brancier urged persons to read. The Cheddi Jagan website is also another feature that she urged the public to access information www.jagan.org “and on this website, you will find information”.

You just tempt us to tell you how puerile an despicable you are. Imagine having Ramotar and Jagdeo turn the industry backward in time to worse production rates than Burnham did and all the while spending close to third a billion US prop up their failure.

Under the PPP this industry have been bleeding for a decade. You had the sugar union  in your pocket, dictatorial powers no less than burnham, better funding from the international community, high sugar prices  and yet you failed.

It is not for lack of smarts. The PPP is full of smart people. It is a culture in that party that has now become cravenly blind to their own excesses that it has become their habit of thinking the world is stupid  to tolerate that corruption without question.

This now brings us to the stupid poster above;  you cannot use shoddy and crude graphic skills to hide the truth. You are ask to account and you will be accountable. That poster tells us much about you PPP leaches.It tells us about your fear about being found out and labeled thieves. Well, night always turn to day and your day is here. 

Nagamootoo’s comment draws wide criticism from MPs
- Manickchand calls on House to distance itself from statements
PPP/C Member of Parliament  and Minister of Education Priya Manickchand has condemned the outburst yesterday by Alliance For Change (AFC) Member of Parliament Moses Nagamootoo in the National Assembly, when he confessed to cursing his grandson when the child bothers him with repeated questions and admitted to shouting at the child, saying “shut yo so and so mouth”.
During his presentation on the 2012 budget debate, Nagamootoo, a former PPP/C party member who defected to the AFC, said, “…it is like a child. In the vehicle when I travel from my home, my grandson will say ‘are we there yet? Are we there yet?’  and I would tell he ‘shut yo so and so mouth’.”
The House immediately erupted, and a loud uproar was heard in the chambers as some members were shocked and astounded to hear this coming from the Honourable Member of the House with some members chanting and accusing him of ‘Child Abuse’.
“I find it unfortunate that a leader of the House said something like that for a couple of reasons,” Minister Manickchand told the Chronicle in an invited comment.
“While it is true that we can decide on corporal punishment ourselves, as far as it stands right now, that is we are consulting on where we should go as a country on that matter, but what I find grossly unfortunate is that we don’t speak to children like that,” Manickchand commented, in direct reference to what Nagamootoo said.
She insisted that one shouldn’t speak to children like that, noting, “Children should be encouraged and (saying) ‘shut your so and so’ because I asked ‘are we there yet’ is really shutting down curiosity, shutting down anxiety that might be justified and so on”.
“I don’t want to get involved in how the Member treats his grandchildren or doesn’t treat them...but I think that the fact that that (‘shut your so and so’ has been publicly said ought to be condemned by all,” the minister chided.
“People who say they love children and they have children’s rights in the forefront of their minds – you would know that we have moved as a world from a place where children are seen and not heard to a place where we are actively encouraging their views,” she noted.
Manickchand encouraged all members of the National Assembly to embrace that right of a child to be heard and “not try to shut down views based on this venom that we heard here today.
“And so for me, I think it says to us that we need to be cautious when we speak to our children, so that we don’t impart behaviour that might itself turn out to be negative and so on,” she said.

Nagamootoo’s comment draws wide criticism from MPs
- Manickchand calls on House to distance itself from statements
PPP/C Member of Parliament  and Minister of Education Priya Manickchand has condemned the outburst yesterday by Alliance For Change (AFC) Member of Parliament Moses Nagamootoo in the National Assembly, when he confessed to cursing his grandson when the child bothers him with repeated questions and admitted to shouting at the child, saying “shut yo so and so mouth”.
During his presentation on the 2012 budget debate, Nagamootoo, a former PPP/C party member who defected to the AFC, said, “…it is like a child. In the vehicle when I travel from my home, my grandson will say ‘are we there yet? Are we there yet?’  and I would tell he ‘shut yo so and so mouth’.”
The House immediately erupted, and a loud uproar was heard in the chambers as some members were shocked and astounded to hear this coming from the Honourable Member of the House with some members chanting and accusing him of ‘Child Abuse’.
“I find it unfortunate that a leader of the House said something like that for a couple of reasons,” Minister Manickchand told the Chronicle in an invited comment.
“While it is true that we can decide on corporal punishment ourselves, as far as it stands right now, that is we are consulting on where we should go as a country on that matter, but what I find grossly unfortunate is that we don’t speak to children like that,” Manickchand commented, in direct reference to what Nagamootoo said.
She insisted that one shouldn’t speak to children like that, noting, “Children should be encouraged and (saying) ‘shut your so and so’ because I asked ‘are we there yet’ is really shutting down curiosity, shutting down anxiety that might be justified and so on”.
“I don’t want to get involved in how the Member treats his grandchildren or doesn’t treat them...but I think that the fact that that (‘shut your so and so’ has been publicly said ought to be condemned by all,” the minister chided.
“People who say they love children and they have children’s rights in the forefront of their minds – you would know that we have moved as a world from a place where children are seen and not heard to a place where we are actively encouraging their views,” she noted.
Manickchand encouraged all members of the National Assembly to embrace that right of a child to be heard and “not try to shut down views based on this venom that we heard here today.
“And so for me, I think it says to us that we need to be cautious when we speak to our children, so that we don’t impart behaviour that might itself turn out to be negative and so on,” she said.

Chandisingh, Vincent Teekah, Balram Singh Rai andMoses Nagamootoo who were rank opportunists who are condemned to failure

Alliance For Change (AFC) Member of Parliament Moses Nagamootoo in the National Assembly, when he confessed to cursing his grandson when the child bothers him with repeated questions and admitted to shouting at the child, saying “shut yo so and so mouth”.
During his presentation on the 2012 budget debate, Nagamootoo, a former PPP/C party member who defected to the AFC, said, “…it is like a child. In the vehicle when I travel from my home, my grandson will say ‘are we there yet? Are we there yet?’  and I would tell he ‘shut yo so and so mouth’.”
The House immediately erupted, and a loud uproar was heard in the chambers as some members were shocked and astounded to hear this coming from the Honourable Member of the House with some members chanting and accusing him of ‘Child Abuse’.

...and   Odinga Lumumba,  Kwame  Mcoy,  PremMisir,  Maniram  Prashad,  and  Kit  Nacimento, all  paragon  of  virtue!