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Jagdeo’s criminal charge … Magistrate must prove she has authority to hear case

July 15, 2015 | By | Filed Under News, Source

 

A High Court order has interesting questions being asked about the possible implications it could have on other cases.


Magistrate Charlyn Artiga presiding at the Whim Magistrate’s Court had already started hearing a private criminal charge against former President Bharrat Jagdeo when the High Court order came down from Justice William Ramlal last month. As a matter of fact, the case had been called three times.

 

In effect, it caused the case at the lower court- the Magistrate’s Court- to be halted.


Legal minds are now saying that the precedent set by this case is likely to spark other High Court actions that can see cases before Magistrates being halted.


The Order/Rule Nisi of Certiorari is directing Magistrate Artiga to show cause why a Writ/Order of Certiorari should not be issued against her and to quash her decision or ruling in the private criminal proceedings.


Attorney-at-law Christopher Ram had filed the charge against Jagdeo at the Whim Magistrate’s Court, Corentyne, Berbice. The charge is that Jagdeo uttered words causing racial or ethnic hatred, contrary to Section 139 D (1) (a) of the Representation of the People’s Act, Chapter 1:03.


Jagdeo’s lawyers applied to the Berbice High Court for the writs and order, contending that the Magistrate’s orders in the case are “irrational, unreasonable, erroneous, in law and is null, void, and of no legal effect”.


Magistrate Artiga, on May 25th, had already started the case, warning if Jagdeo did not turn up, she would be issuing an arrest warrant. He later showed up at that Berbice court, rushing from his Pradoville Two home, East Coast Demerara. Standing in the prisoners’ docks, he was placed on self bail after the charge was read to him. He was also restricted from travelling unless he asked the court’s permission.


Jagdeo’s lawyers in late May successfully approached the High Court asking the travel ban be overturned.


On Monday, it was announced by Magistrate Artiga that she could not proceed because of the High Court order. She set the matter down for a report on September 23rd.


According to court documents from the High Court, Justice Ramlal also ordered an Order Nisi directing the magistrate to show cause why a Rule Nisi of Prohibition should not be issued, directing her from taking any steps in the proceedings on the ground that she has no jurisdiction to inquire into the charge.


The lawyers are arguing also that the charge is fundamentally defective and legally invalid and that the continuation of the criminal proceedings is an abuse of the processes of the court.


The magistrate now has to show good and sufficient cause why the order of prohibition should not be made absolute.


The Berbice High Court matter continues on Friday, July 17 before Justice Sandra Kurtzious.


Jagdeo’s case is closely watched as it would be one of a first against a former leader of the country.


Ram, in addition to being a lawyer, is an auditor and critic of the previous PPP Government, coming under attacks for his blogs and letters.
On June 22, Jagdeo was a no-show at a Berbice court. His lawyers reported him sick.


Ram is accusing Jagdeo of breaking the laws when he uttered statements on Sunday March 8 at Babu Jaan.


Ram charged that the statements “can result in racial or ethnic violence or hatred among the people”.


At the first hearing, Jagdeo’s lawyers had argued that the charge was frivolous, vexatious and without any basis in law. They requested that it be dismissed.

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On Monday, it was announced by Magistrate Artiga that she could not proceed because of the High Court order. She set the matter down for a report on September 23rd


According to court documents from the High Court, Justice Ramlal also ordered an Order Nisi directing the magistrate to show cause why a Rule Nisi of Prohibition should not be issued, directing her from taking any steps in the proceedings on the ground that she has no jurisdiction to inquire into the charge.


The lawyers are arguing also that the charge is fundamentally defective and legally invalid and that the continuation of the criminal proceedings is an abuse of the processes of the court.


The magistrate now has to show good and sufficient cause why the order of prohibition should not be made absolute.

 

Jagdeo’s criminal charge … Magistrate must prove she has authority to hear case, July 15, 2015 | By | Filed Under News, Source

Interesting to hear the Magistrate's explanation to proceed with this vexatious and frivolous charge.

FM
Originally Posted by Prashad:
It is all about humiliating Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian . . .

please explain how Magistrate Artiga and Christopher Ram are "all about humiliating" Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian"

 

thanks

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by baseman:

Magistrate Charlyn Artiga, Brown girl in the ring!  She overstepped.

hw so?

 

ar u a member of the "because he is East Indian" antiman chrous?

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Magistrate Charlyn Artiga, Brown girl in the ring!  She overstepped.

hw so?

 

ar u a member of the "because he is East Indian" antiman chrous?

Nah, nothing to do with race, she just overstepped.  You will see!  There are other issues regarding missing national assets which need to be the focus rather than this frivolous charge.  It's just sucking up precious oxygen.  Govt needs to get down to more serious issues like crime, forensic audit, the economy, trade, Investment, people/social issues, etc.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Magistrate Charlyn Artiga, Brown girl in the ring!  She overstepped.

hw so?

 

ar u a member of the "because he is East Indian" antiman chrous?

Nah, nothing to do with race . . .

tell prashad . . . he uterus hurtin

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

This is what you get when you try to prosecute a Former President of Guyana.

 

The jackasses are trying to tell the law maker how to interpret his own laws..

GNI's junior antiman swallow too much semen and losing his way

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

This is what you get when you try to prosecute a Former President of Guyana.

 

The jackasses are trying to tell the law maker how to interpret his own laws..

GNI's junior antiman swallow too much semen and losing his way

I believe you are confusing somebody with your mama. 

R
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
It is all about humiliating Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian . . .

please explain how Magistrate Artiga and Christopher Ram are "all about humiliating" Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian"

 

thanks

Having problems comprehending this morning? I might not agree with him, but he offered an opinion which is very clear. The matter is before the court and we will eventually know whether the summons was warranted. The other opinion is his own. How will you prove it wrong?

Z
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
It is all about humiliating Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian . . .

please explain how Magistrate Artiga and Christopher Ram are "all about humiliating" Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian"

 

thanks

Having problems comprehending this morning? I might not agree with him, but he offered an opinion which is very clear. The matter is before the court and we will eventually know whether the summons was warranted. The other opinion is his own. How will you prove it wrong?

i asked for the basis of his "very clear" "opinion" . . . is there a problem?

 

or do u just feel compelled to post 'whatever' . . . however jackassish

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Magistrate Charlyn Artiga, Brown girl in the ring!  She overstepped.

hw so?

 

ar u a member of the "because he is East Indian" antiman chrous?

Nah, nothing to do with race, she just overstepped.  You will see!  There are other issues regarding missing national assets which need to be the focus rather than this frivolous charge.  It's just sucking up precious oxygen. Govt needs to get down to more serious issues like crime, forensic audit, the economy, trade, Investment, people/social issues, etc.

Where is the Govt involve in this??? "This is a case where a

Citizen filed charges against a former President."

 

"Attorney-at-law Christopher Ram had filed the charge against Jagdeo at the Whim Magistrate’s Court, Corentyne, Berbice. The charge is that Jagdeo uttered words causing racial or ethnic hatred, contrary to Section 139 D (1) (a) of the Representation of the People’s Act, Chapter 1:03."

 

Django
Last edited by Django
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

This is what you get when you try to prosecute a Former President of Guyana.

 

The jackasses are trying to tell the law maker how to interpret his own laws..

GNI's junior antiman swallow too much semen and losing his way

I believe you are confusing somebody with your mama. 

get up off your knees and re-read antiman

FM

When did it ever bother blacks and Indians to throw racial slur at one another.

The hatred was there before you were born.

 

Jagdeo didn't say anything that wasn't true.  I experienced all of them.

The Government of Granger is proving that jagdeo was right. 

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

When did it ever bother blacks and Indians to throw racial slur at one another.

The hatred was there before you were born.

 

Jagdeo didn't say anything that wasn't true.  I experienced all of them.

The Government of Granger is proving that jagdeo was right. 

ow fool, is Jagdeo dem pass de law

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
It is all about humiliating Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian . . .

please explain how Magistrate Artiga and Christopher Ram are "all about humiliating" Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian"

 

thanks

Having problems comprehending this morning? I might not agree with him, but he offered an opinion which is very clear. The matter is before the court and we will eventually know whether the summons was warranted. The other opinion is his own. How will you prove it wrong?

i asked for the basis of his "very clear" "opinion" . . . is there a problem?

 

or do u just feel compelled to post 'whatever' . . . however jackassish

Trying to elevate the level of discussion and getting away from the long discourse about race and trying to prove the impossible (to him) that his opinion is incorrect and without any basis in fact. 

Z
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
It is all about humiliating Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian . . .

please explain how Magistrate Artiga and Christopher Ram are "all about humiliating" Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian"

 

thanks

Having problems comprehending this morning? I might not agree with him, but he offered an opinion which is very clear. The matter is before the court and we will eventually know whether the summons was warranted. The other opinion is his own. How will you prove it wrong?

i asked for the basis of his "very clear" "opinion" . . . is there a problem?

 

or do u just feel compelled to post 'whatever' . . . however jackassish

Trying to elevate the level of discussion and getting away from the long discourse about race and trying to prove the impossible (to him) that his opinion is incorrect and without any basis in fact. 

tribal fraud! the only thing u trying to "elevate" is the garbage your invincibly ignorant tribesman is slinging

 

there is no "impossible" to prove, only stupidness to run up a flagpole for purposes of ridicule

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
It is all about humiliating Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian . . .

please explain how Magistrate Artiga and Christopher Ram are "all about humiliating" Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian"

 

thanks

Having problems comprehending this morning? I might not agree with him, but he offered an opinion which is very clear. The matter is before the court and we will eventually know whether the summons was warranted. The other opinion is his own. How will you prove it wrong?

i asked for the basis of his "very clear" "opinion" . . . is there a problem?

 

or do u just feel compelled to post 'whatever' . . . however jackassish

Trying to elevate the level of discussion and getting away from the long discourse about race and trying to prove the impossible (to him) that his opinion is incorrect and without any basis in fact. 

tribal fraud! the only thing u trying to "elevate" is the garbage your invincibly ignorant tribesman is slinging

 

there is no "impossible" to prove, only stupidness to run up a flagpole for purposes of ridicule

Still having problems comprehending this morning. Go take a pill or a drink  then reread what I posted. 

Z
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
It is all about humiliating Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian . . .

please explain how Magistrate Artiga and Christopher Ram are "all about humiliating" Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian"

 

thanks

Having problems comprehending this morning? I might not agree with him, but he offered an opinion which is very clear. The matter is before the court and we will eventually know whether the summons was warranted. The other opinion is his own. How will you prove it wrong?

i asked for the basis of his "very clear" "opinion" . . . is there a problem?

 

or do u just feel compelled to post 'whatever' . . . however jackassish

Trying to elevate the level of discussion and getting away from the long discourse about race and trying to prove the impossible (to him) that his opinion is incorrect and without any basis in fact. 

tribal fraud! the only thing u trying to "elevate" is the garbage your invincibly ignorant tribesman is slinging

 

there is no "impossible" to prove, only stupidness to run up a flagpole for purposes of ridicule

Still having problems comprehending this morning. Go take a pill or a drink  then reread what I posted. 

Nehruesque! . . . when the stupid get cornered and exposed as stupid, the tendency is to stumble around their shrinking space muttering incoherently that their exposers are "stupid"

 

look in the mirror

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Magistrate Charlyn Artiga, Brown girl in the ring!  She overstepped.

hw so?

 

ar u a member of the "because he is East Indian" antiman chrous?

Nah, nothing to do with race, she just overstepped.  You will see!  There are other issues regarding missing national assets which need to be the focus rather than this frivolous charge.  It's just sucking up precious oxygen.  Govt needs to get down to more serious issues like crime, forensic audit, the economy, trade, Investment, people/social issues, etc.

Correct ... however it would appear that the government is clueless on these issues.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
It is all about humiliating Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian . . .

please explain how Magistrate Artiga and Christopher Ram are "all about humiliating" Mr Jagdeo because he is East Indian"

 

thanks

Having problems comprehending this morning? I might not agree with him, but he offered an opinion which is very clear. The matter is before the court and we will eventually know whether the summons was warranted. The other opinion is his own. How will you prove it wrong?

i asked for the basis of his "very clear" "opinion" . . . is there a problem?

 

or do u just feel compelled to post 'whatever' . . . however jackassish

Trying to elevate the level of discussion and getting away from the long discourse about race and trying to prove the impossible (to him) that his opinion is incorrect and without any basis in fact. 

tribal fraud! the only thing u trying to "elevate" is the garbage your invincibly ignorant tribesman is slinging

 

there is no "impossible" to prove, only stupidness to run up a flagpole for purposes of ridicule

Still having problems comprehending this morning. Go take a pill or a drink  then reread what I posted. 

Nehruesque! . . . when the stupid get cornered and exposed as stupid, the tendency is to stumble around their shrinking space muttering incoherently that their exposers are "stupid"

 

look in the mirror

Still having problems with comprehension today? You show that you have no valid response when you resort to name calling. Reread the response!

Z

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