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Earning wealth

SEPTEMBER 8, 2013 | BY  | FILED UNDER FEATURES / COLUMNISTSRAVI DEV 

Growing up in a Hindu home, there was never any doubt about one’s attitude to acquiring wealth. It was right up there as one of the four fundamental “drives” of life – sensuous desires (kaam), material wealth and social status (artha), which were, however, to be pursued within a righteous life (dharma), and if successful would lead to liberation from this cycle of birth and death (moksha).
Apart from the pandit expounding this lesson in various lectures in the Mandir or in any one of the several religious functions that dot the Hindu calendar, it was driven home every day right in the home. The wealth was to be acquired through hard work and nothing was to deter one from this pursuit.
Raised by my maternal grandfather, (Nana) I grew up with the story of his father severely injuring a finger while clearing a rice “bed” (field) which adjoined the railway line. The old man calmly walked up to the metal rail, placed his injured finger on it, lopped off the hanging extremity, bandaged the stub and went back to work.
My grandfather was born in 1896 and was over sixty when I went to live with him at the age of six. He was at the tail end of his job on the sugar plantation, working as a shovel man. He was proud of his “false” name “Steelrod”, earned from his reputation of never backing down in the cane fields even though he was not the biggest man around. He was proud too of being a Kurmi, an agricultural caste. I never knew him not to be at work – either in his home garden or on the land his father had acquired in lieu of his return trip to India. Even though in middle age he had acquired a “timber grant” and operated a “saw pit”, he returned to farming. He built his “high house” in the 1930s, long before Bookers established their housing schemes, and much of the lumber came from his saw pit.
I am amused at the hullabaloo being made nowadays about “child labour”. The philosophy I imbibed was when it came to the family earning its way to whatever lifestyle it aspired; it was a matter of every man-jack putting their shoulders to the wheel. And “man jack” included women and children. I was famous for inventing schemes to avoid manual labour, but as I became an adult, I discovered the latent impressions had sunken deeply and I too was driven to work. In whatever field one found oneself.
My grandfather and his peers might have been forced to work on the plantation and sell their labour, but their dream was always to work for themselves. When the Indians made their move from the cane and rice fields to the professions and business, most assumed it was to acquire status in the wider society. But it had as much to do with being independent.
I’ve also heard a lot about the “risks” one undertakes to establish a business. Perhaps naÏvely, it was felt that hard work would overcome any barrier to success in any endeavour. But it worked. All the businesses in my village (mostly retail outlets of one sort or another) had been established by individuals who had no prior experience or caste history. When I was in New York (from 1972) and observed the Indo-Guyanese community establish itself in Richmond Hill by the late ‘70’s (an aunt of mine was one of the early ones to move there in 1977) again most of the new businesses owners had no prior experience. Just the desire to earn an independent living through hard work – and of course to acquire wealth and status.
But the end of earning wealth and status was only one side of the coin of “artha”. The other side was how to use them: one, first of all had the responsibility to improve the lot of one’s family and then that of the wider society, in ever widening circles. The ideal was that the best son was given to “dharma” to serve and work for its spread. This, however, was one aspect of the Hindu view of life that has been profoundly altered by the total institution of the plantation system as indentured labourers passed through it.
The sundering of the immigrants from their close-knit village and caste bonds and the implicit prohibition of the extended family through the logee-lodging for single-families, steered the immigrant to focus on individual success. This process has been exacerbated in the subsequent years as the immigrants entered a society in which this orientation was the ideal.
Today, the neo-liberal ethos that has become hegemonic encourages the focus on individual success at the expense of the group and transmuted the urge for wealth and status into greed and power. We have to work to return to the centre.

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My grand father taught me the same thing:

 

Growing up in a Hindu home, there was never any doubt about one’s attitude to acquiring wealth. It was right up there as one of the four fundamental “drives” of life – sensuous desires (kaam), material wealth and social status (artha), which were, however, to be pursued within a righteous life (dharma), and if successful would lead to liberation from this cycle of birth and death (moksha).

FM
Originally Posted by JoKer:

Poor Ravi was always more at home being a scholar-pandit than the politician we needed to build a party. He was politically inept.

Ravi is a good man but he does not have the ability to beat the PPP.  Only Moses got that kind of balls.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Kishan Bhai

 

Ravi is a political reject. You can do better than that.

A moderator reject is worse than a political reject.

 

Gil is engaging in cheap shots and it lacks maturity.

 

Yuji will now return fire with fire from you Gil. You speak from both sides of your mouth.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Kishan Bhai

 

Ravi is a political reject. You can do better than that.

A moderator reject is worse than a political reject.

the fool is a total reject

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Kishan Bhai

 

Ravi is a political reject. You can do better than that.

A moderator reject is worse than a political reject.

 

Gil is engaging in cheap shots and it lacks maturity.

 

Yuji will now return fire with fire from you Gil. You speak from both sides of your mouth.

 

 

Listen you anti-Hanuman bogus Hindu, Ravi Dev was my buddy schoolmate, a brilliant person whom I have high regard for.

You called my buddy a political reject and then have the gumption to talk about cheap shots?

You can fight fire with fire. You're like hot wind to me.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Kishan Bhai

 

Ravi is a political reject. You can do better than that.

A moderator reject is worse than a political reject.

 

Gil is engaging in cheap shots and it lacks maturity.

 

Yuji will now return fire with fire from you Gil. You speak from both sides of your mouth.

 

 

Listen you anti-Hanuman bogus Hindu, Ravi Dev was my buddy schoolmate, a brilliant person whom I have high regard for.

You called my buddy a political reject and then have the gumption to talk about cheap shots?

You can fight fire with fire. You're like hot wind to me.

Birds of the same feathers flock together.

FM
Last edited by Former Member

Ravi Dev is a Guyana East Indian human rights activist and advocate not a Guyanese politician.  Some of his issues may be political but at the end of the day he is a human rights activist and advocate similar to may be Roy Wilkins or Hosea Williams.  

 

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Kishan Bhai

 

Ravi is a political reject. You can do better than that.

A moderator reject is worse than a political reject.

 

Gil is engaging in cheap shots and it lacks maturity.

 

Yuji will now return fire with fire from you Gil. You speak from both sides of your mouth.

 

 

Listen you anti-Hanuman bogus Hindu, Ravi Dev was my buddy schoolmate, a brilliant person whom I have high regard for.

You called my buddy a political reject and then have the gumption to talk about cheap shots?

You can fight fire with fire. You're like hot wind to me.

Birds of the same feathers flock together.

Like yuji and his corrupt PPP cocks. Your feathers reek of filthy lucre, degeneracy and perversion.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Kishan Bhai

 

Ravi is a political reject. You can do better than that.

A moderator reject is worse than a political reject.

 

Gil is engaging in cheap shots and it lacks maturity.

 

Yuji will now return fire with fire from you Gil. You speak from both sides of your mouth.

 

 

Listen you anti-Hanuman bogus Hindu, Ravi Dev was my buddy schoolmate, a brilliant person whom I have high regard for.

You called my buddy a political reject and then have the gumption to talk about cheap shots?

You can fight fire with fire. You're like hot wind to me.

Birds of the same feathers flock together.

Like yuji and his corrupt PPP cocks. Your feathers reek of filthy lucre, degeneracy and perversion.

GIGGLE!    

FM
Originally Posted by Wally:

Ravi Dev is a Guyana East Indian human rights activist and advocate not a Guyanese politician.  Some of his issues may be political but at the end of the day he is a human rights activist and advocate similar to may be Roy Wilkins or Hosea Williams.  

 

 

 

Wally

 

We must be reminded of his failed bid for political office. Remember ROAR ?

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Kishan Bhai

 

Ravi is a political reject. You can do better than that.

A moderator reject is worse than a political reject.

 

Gil is engaging in cheap shots and it lacks maturity.

 

Yuji will now return fire with fire from you Gil. You speak from both sides of your mouth.

 

 

Listen you anti-Hanuman bogus Hindu, Ravi Dev was my buddy schoolmate, a brilliant person whom I have high regard for.

You called my buddy a political reject and then have the gumption to talk about cheap shots?

You can fight fire with fire. You're like hot wind to me.

Birds of the same feathers flock together.

Like yuji and his corrupt PPP cocks. Your feathers reek of filthy lucre, degeneracy and perversion.

Yugi you are a bogus Hindu on drugs playing Majira and chanting at street corners. What did you really learn from your recent pilgrimage? Gil is right. You are a degenerate pervert. Where is your sidekick, Rev the Perv?

Mitwah

Ravi lost support among the voters because of his presence at Waddel's funeral.  East Indians in Guyana have no tolerance for hatemonger like Waddell.  Moses and Ramjattan will pay a price at the polls for they have joined the PNC in Linden demanding free electricity while Berbicians have to pay high rates.

 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Kishan Bhai

 

Ravi is a political reject. You can do better than that.

A moderator reject is worse than a political reject.

 

Gil is engaging in cheap shots and it lacks maturity.

 

Yuji will now return fire with fire from you Gil. You speak from both sides of your mouth.

 

 

Listen you anti-Hanuman bogus Hindu, Ravi Dev was my buddy schoolmate, a brilliant person whom I have high regard for.

You called my buddy a political reject and then have the gumption to talk about cheap shots?

You can fight fire with fire. You're like hot wind to me.

Birds of the same feathers flock together.

Like yuji and his corrupt PPP cocks. Your feathers reek of filthy lucre, degeneracy and perversion.

Yugi you are a bogus Hindu on drugs playing Majira and chanting at street corners. What did you really learn from your recent pilgrimage? Gil is right. You are a degenerate pervert. Where is your sidekick, Rev the Perv?

Mits

 

I tried to build bridges with you many times but you wish to remain vile. Yuji will no longer respond to you. 

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Wally:

Ravi Dev is a Guyana East Indian human rights activist and advocate not a Guyanese politician.  Some of his issues may be political but at the end of the day he is a human rights activist and advocate similar to may be Roy Wilkins or Hosea Williams.  

 

 

 

Wally

 

We must be reminded of his failed bid for political office. Remember ROAR ?

ROAR was a political party in name only. In reality it never had a complex organizational structure or the sustained resources of a functioning political party.  It was a pressure group like Red Thread or Operation Push.

FM
Originally Posted by Wally:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Wally:

Ravi Dev is a Guyana East Indian human rights activist and advocate not a Guyanese politician.  Some of his issues may be political but at the end of the day he is a human rights activist and advocate similar to may be Roy Wilkins or Hosea Williams.  

 

 

 

Wally

 

We must be reminded of his failed bid for political office. Remember ROAR ?

ROAR was a political party in name only. In reality it never had a complex organizational structure or the sustained resources of a functioning political party.  It was a pressure group like Red Thread or Operation Push.

 

My prediction is that the AFC will meet the same fate as ROAR.

 

A younger and more diverse political party will emerge in Guyana. 

FM

The difference between AFC and Roar with regard to the political environments in which they function is this.

 

There is political vacume created with the extinction of the UF which the AFC can fill if they play their cards right.  They must keep being organized and have an organizational structure based on merit that cares for the peope/ is reflective of the multicultural Guyanese people which is free from corruption and also they must have sustaining resource base.

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Kishan Bhai

 

Ravi is a political reject. You can do better than that.

A moderator reject is worse than a political reject.

 

Gil is engaging in cheap shots and it lacks maturity.

 

Yuji will now return fire with fire from you Gil. You speak from both sides of your mouth.

 

 

Listen you anti-Hanuman bogus Hindu, Ravi Dev was my buddy schoolmate, a brilliant person whom I have high regard for.

You called my buddy a political reject and then have the gumption to talk about cheap shots?

You can fight fire with fire. You're like hot wind to me.

Birds of the same feathers flock together.

Like yuji and his corrupt PPP cocks. Your feathers reek of filthy lucre, degeneracy and perversion.

Yugi you are a bogus Hindu on drugs playing Majira and chanting at street corners. What did you really learn from your recent pilgrimage? Gil is right. You are a degenerate pervert. Where is your sidekick, Rev the Perv?

Mits

 

I tried to build bridges with you many times but you wish to remain vile. Yuji will no longer respond to you. 

Where am I being vile? You are the one being vulgar and vile with your myopic racist views. Get lost bogus Hindu.

Mitwah

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