121 Days after March 2 ,2020 Elections ,the people of Guyana will know which Political Party(s) will be the next Government.
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Good morning, sir.
That it shall. Is this the official thread for the hearing and to discuss the outcome?
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@Django posted:121 Days after March 2 ,2020 Elections ,the people of Guyana will know which Political Party(s) will be the next Government.
Not really. Even if the CCJ rules in the PPP/C's favor that Sanctimonious Gangster Granger and his Harmonite strongmen will not step down. Some observers believe the Harmonites will provoke a crisis and Granger will declare a State of Emergency. But I do hope that better sense prevails and that Granger accepts peacefully a pro-PPP/C ruling by the CCJ.
@Rochelle posted:Good morning, sir.
That it shall. Is this the official thread for the hearing and to discuss the outcome?
GM
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@Former Member posted:Not really. Even if the CCJ rules in the PPP/C's favor that Sanctimonious Gangster Granger and his Harmonite strongmen will not step down. Some observers believe the Harmonites will provoke a crisis and Granger will declare a State of Emergency.
Highly impossible.
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@Django posted:Highly impossible.
By 6PM today we shall know for sure what is highly impossible or highly possible.
Meanwhile... to each his own choice, to fight or not to fight, or to just hold tight, in this Forum with or without rum. ð
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy1z5EF528k
| July 01, 2020 9:00am | GYCV2020/002 | Mohammed Ifraan Ali et al v Eslyn David et al | The Applicants are appealing the decision of the Court of Appeal of Guyana delivered on Monday 22nd June 2020. On Thursday 18th June 2020, before the Chief Elections Officer of the Guyana Elections Commission was scheduled to submit his Report on the results of the General and Regional Elections held on 2nd March 2020. The First Respondent filed a Notice of Motion for several reliefs, among the reliefs sought was an interpretation of the words âmore votes are castâ in Article 177(2)(b) of the Constitution of Guyana. The Court of Appeal in its decision ordered that the words are to be interpreted as meaning âmore valid votes are castâ. The Court also ordered the decision be stayed for three days. The Applicants, who were added as Respondents before the Court of Appeal, claim that the decision was wrong for many reasons, including that the Court of Appeal did not have the jurisdiction to hear and determine the Notice of Motion. |
In 1968 the Voting Age Population was 280,800 and 314,246 voted.
In 1973 the Voting Age Population was 319,200 and 349,587 voted.
@Former Member posted:Not really. Even if the CCJ rules in the PPP/C's favor that Sanctimonious Gangster Granger and his Harmonite strongmen will not step down. Some observers believe the Harmonites will provoke a crisis and Granger will declare a State of Emergency. But I do hope that better sense prevails and that Granger accepts peacefully a pro-PPP/C ruling by the CCJ.
Are you saying that the PNC will use better judgement?
Today's announcement will be a shocker.
Former Member
@Ramakant-P posted:Are you saying that the PNC will use better judgement?
Who knows? The world is warning them. They must realize they can't withstand political isolation and economic sanctions for long.
Today July 1st Ralph Gonsalves takes over as CARICOM Chairman. He will start the ball rolling. Gonsalves' position against Granger's position is well known. Gonsalves commands more respect within the Caribbean than Granger.
@Former Member posted:Who knows? The world is warning them. They must realize they can't withstand political isolation and economic sanctions for long.
Today July 1st Ralph Gonsalves takes over as CARICOM Chairman. He will start the ball rolling. Gonsalves' position against Granger's position is well known. Gonsalves commands more respect within the Caribbean than Granger.
Yes! indeed! The whole of Guyana will suffer greatly if the PNC is allowed to get away with cheating as they did between 1968 and 1985, 2015 and now 2020.
@Django posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy1z5EF528k
July 01, 2020 9:00am GYCV2020/002 Mohammed Ifraan Ali et al v Eslyn David et al The Applicants are appealing the decision of the Court of Appeal of Guyana delivered on Monday 22nd June 2020. On Thursday 18th June 2020, before the Chief Elections Officer of the Guyana Elections Commission was scheduled to submit his Report on the results of the General and Regional Elections held on 2nd March 2020. The First Respondent filed a Notice of Motion for several reliefs, among the reliefs sought was an interpretation of the words âmore votes are castâ in Article 177(2)(b) of the Constitution of Guyana.
The Court of Appeal in its decision ordered that the words are to be interpreted as meaning âmore valid votes are castâ. The Court also ordered the decision be stayed for three days. The Applicants, who were added as Respondents before the Court of Appeal, claim that the decision was wrong for many reasons, including that the Court of Appeal did not have the jurisdiction to hear and determine the Notice of Motion.
Thanks Django.
PNC lawyer is a student of Basil Williams
PNC lawyer not answering the judges questions just keep quoting cases, one judge even said you have quoted that case before. ðð
@Abu Jihad posted:PNC lawyer is a student of Basil Williams
They are not too smart. They don't make good advisors.
It is interesting to listen to the proceeding, The PNC lawyer has difficulty pronouncing words and several time had to be reminded of the subject being addressed.
I can see the judges being disgusted by the poor presentation by the PNC clowns.
@kp posted:It is interesting to listen to the proceeding, The PNC lawyer has difficulty pronouncing words and several time had to be reminded of the subject being addressed.
I can see the judges being disgusted by the poor presentation by the PNC clowns.
You should read back what you wrote and correct any mistake you might have made.
@Ramakant-P posted:You should read back what you wrote and correct any mistake you might have made.
So now you are the GCDF head teacher. De man ah Guyanese and he rite like da. I am sure you will understand what he mean, if you get off you pedestal.
@kp posted:It is interesting to listen to the proceeding, The PNC lawyer has difficulty pronouncing words and several time had to be reminded of the subject being addressed.
I can see the judges being disgusted by the poor presentation by the PNC clowns.
@alena06 posted:PNC lawyer not answering the judges questions just keep quoting cases, one judge even said you have quoted that case before. ðð
I'm amused by how people evaluate the lawyers. I have been around countless lawyers and have listened to numerous presentations in different legal proceedings. First thing to bear in mind is that most of a lawyer's case is in the written materials submitted . Second, the oral presentations are by design and necessity slow paced because a number of people have to follow what is being said and the constant references to cases is because that is the the essence of the common law.
I have been around countless lawyers and have listened to numerous presentations in different legal proceedings.
With that much exposure to the Legal system, you must be a big time criminal, hope you are not posting from the Inside.
@Ramakant-P posted:You should read back what you wrote and correct any mistake you might have made.
I write as though I am speaking to you and don't give me that Shit , that you were a teacher.
"You should read BACK" just think of that what you wrote.
@kp posted:I have been around countless lawyers and have listened to numerous presentations in different legal proceedings.
With that much exposure to the Legal system, you must be a big time criminal, hope you are not posting from the Inside.
You would want to correct your mistake again.
@kp posted:I write as though I am speaking to you and don't give me that Shit , that you were a teacher.
"You should read BACK" just think of that what you wrote.
I removed my 'read back' comment in my last post, because I felt it would be too much for him to understand.
@Ramakant-P posted:You would want to correct your mistake again.
Why should he 'correct his mistake again'. Because your 'highly intellectual level' has difficulty understanding his writing.
CCJ judges raise key questions at Jagdeo-Ally âvalid votesâ appeal
Posted by: Denis Chabrol in Courts, Elections, News, Politics July 1, 2020 0 Comments
President of the Caribbean Court of Justice, Adrian Saunders telling Attorney General Basil Williams (backing camera) âwe need to make this thing workâ
Two judges of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) on Wednesday morning raised questions about whether Guyanaâs constitution and election law can be amended by subsidiary legislation.
CCJ President , Justice Adrian Saunders posed the question to Attorney-at-Law John Jeremie, for the respondent Eslyn David. âDoes that sound right to you?,â Saunders said.
That question was asked at the juncture when Jeremie was making the point that the Guyana Court of Appeal was asked for an interpretation of âmore votes are castâ as stated in Article 177 (2)(b). The local appeal court ruled that âmore votes are castâ means âmore valid votes are castâ. The lawyer noted that the applicant that Article be read in accordance with the gazetted recount order number 60.
Justice Jacob Wit
Justice Saunders also remarked that if the CCJ were to rule that a court can determine the validity of the election of an official before the official is actually elected, that would be the first time that the Commonwealth that would happen.
CCJ Judge, Jacob Wit queried what was meant by valid votes, and he went on to remark that that would have implications for the Representation of the People Act which speaks about valid votes. âIf you give a different meaning to valid votes, that would not be within the jurisdiction of the Court of Appeal and will be dangerous to do it this way,â the judge said.
The recount Order 60 provided for the reconciliation of votes cast in the March 2, 2020 general and regional elections with votersâ lists, counterfoils and stubs.
Attorney-at-Law , Douglas Mendes, for appellants Bharrat Jagdeo and Irfaan Ali remarked that âit will amend the constitution.â
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@Ramakant-P posted:You would want to correct your mistake again.
Who are you trying to impress? Let's deal with the court case at hand and keep your academic prowess for your Kids.
@kp posted:Who are you trying to impress? Let's deal with the court case at hand and keep your academic prowess for your Kids.
Where the court case is concerned you are biased.
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Issues will continue to be focused on the exact words and meanings of the Guyana Constitution plus pertinent Acts rather than on the actions taken by individual(s) contrary to said legislation.
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Looks like Basil the Dunce Williams needs some lessons from Timothy Jonas.
@kp posted:I have been around countless lawyers and have listened to numerous presentations in different legal proceedings.
With that much exposure to the Legal system, you must be a big time criminal, hope you are not posting from the Inside.
Jackass, its not only criminals who have contact with the legal system.
@Totaram posted:Jackass, its not only criminals who have contact with the legal system.
Totaram, one of the things I found myself doing when I first joined this forum, was responding the way others write to me. If they call me names, or are nasty towards me, I am also nasty and I call them names in return. The end result was, we both become nastier towards each other and we don't even discuss the issue any more.
When you first start writing on this forum, I stopped writing for a while and laugh, while I let other think we are the same person. I was also impressed by what you wrote, but after a while I noticed that you write like me, when I first came here.
I had a best friend name Gene. I disliked him when he challenged me to make me see myself. He passed on and I really miss him.
Celebration put on hold till next Wednesday.
Very good arguments made on both sides.
Impressed with Mr. Reginald Armour, S.C.!
Mr. Basil Williams also came through. Good day for both sides. It really is a tough case and decision.
CCJ to give decision next week Wednesday on PPPâs election appeal
Posted by: Denis Chabrol in Elections, News, Politics July 1, 2020 0
Trinidadian Senior Counsel, Douglas Mendes
Lawyers for the Peopleâs Progressive Party and a supporter of A Partnership for National Unity+Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) on Wednesday laid out their arguments on whether the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ has jurisdiction to hear an appeal of a Guyana Court of Appeal decision on the question of valid votes.
The CCJ said it would now study the submissions by the several lawyers and give a decision next week Wednesday , July 8 at 3 PM.
Attorney-at-Law, John Jeremie, for APNU+AFC respondent Eslyn David maintained that the regional court does not have jurisdiction to hear the appeal because the Guyana constitution and the CCJ Act prohibit this. Jeremie further argued that even if the Guyana Court of Appeal is wrong, the CCJ could not hear an appeal. âThe court has no jurisdiction to determine the matterâĶto determine whether that supreme court was wrong,â he said.
Attorney-at-Lawyer, Douglas Mendes, for PPP General Secretary Bharrat Jagdeo and presidential candidate, Dr. Irfaan Ally conceded that the CCJ does not have jurisdiction to hear the appeal but to quash the case altogether because the Guyana Court of Appeal had no jurisdiction in the first place. He stressed that Article 177(4) was applicable only to someone who had already been elected president.
Attorney General, Basil Williams (Guyana Chronicle photo).
Mendes, at the same time, said the CCJ has a legitimate right to interpret the constitution and to find that the Guyana Court of Appeal had no jurisdiction. âIf the decision is not caught by Article 177(4), therefore, your jurisdiction is not excluded,â he said. The lawyer the CCJ Act gives the right to interpret the Constitution, all civil matters and matters of great public importance. He said the CCJ does not interpret the constitution âyou would be violating the Constitution of Guyana.â
The lawyer for Jagdeo and Ally wants the CCJ to allow the appeal to that Trinidad-headquartered court, that the matter before the Guyana Court of Appeal is dismissed.
Mendes also wants the CCJ to issue a consequential order requiring the Chief Elections Officer to withdraw his report to the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) and declare the result on the basis of the recount.
Attorney-at-Law, Justin Simon,in association with Attorney General Basil Williams, said based on the CCJâs interpretation of Article 177(4) of Guyanaâs constitution would have determine whether it has a residual jurisdiction. At the same time, he said the Guyana Court of Appeal enjoys jurisdiction to interpret the Constitution. âGive a liberal interpretationâĶ,â
Attorney General Williams said the Guyana Court of Appeal has exclusive jurisdiction to deal with matters concerning the election of the President and the High Court deals with the election of members of the National Assembly.
Attorney-at-Law Reginald Armour, for APNU+AFCâs Joseph Harmon, also argued that the CCJ did not have jurisdiction.
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@Rochelle posted:Very good arguments made on both sides.
Impressed with Mr. Reginald Armour, S.C.!
Mr. Basil Williams also came through. Good day for both sides. It really is a tough case and decision.
Basil should take some pages from Jonas book and share with his comrades representing APNU.
what is an "ack"
justice Saunders we ain't want get into that ðððð
Court of Appeal amend the constitution by way of an order ðððð
How yuh know yuh on a âfishing expedition.â
Armour appearing for Joseph Harmon: â Sir, the best answer I can give...â
Mr. Armour appearing for Joseph Harmon: âI am lost my Honor, I am lost...â eventually agrees that the CCJ has jurisdiction on the particular question.
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I think Basil won the case for usðð and handed the APNU AFC the lost...thank you! thank you!
@Former Member posted:Court of Appeal amend the constitution by way of an order ðððð
If the Court of Appeal can amend the constitution, what is the purpose of 2/3 % of parliament ?
@Former Member posted:I think Basil won the case for usðð and handed the APNU AFC the lost...thank you! thank you!
If reading other people's mind makes you sleep good at night, good for you.
Does that represent a Guyana the PPP wants to build ? Why are you so sarcastic ?
@Django posted:121 Days after March 2 ,2020 Elections ,the people of Guyana will know which Political Party(s) will be the next Government.
What nonsense is this?
@Former Member posted:By 6PM today we shall know for sure what is highly impossible or highly possible.
Meanwhile... to each his own choice, to fight or not to fight, or to just hold tight, in this Forum with or without rum. ð
Itâs 8:00 pm.
@Totaram posted:I'm amused by how people evaluate the lawyers. I have been around countless lawyers and have listened to numerous presentations in different legal proceedings. First thing to bear in mind is that most of a lawyer's case is in the written materials submitted . Second, the oral presentations are by design and necessity slow paced because a number of people have to follow what is being said and the constant references to cases is because that is the the essence of the common law.
That girl family own the oldest law firm in Guyana.
@Bibi Haniffa posted:That girl family own the oldest law firm in Guyana.
That doesn't mean a thing in terms of rating the presentations. I think the oldest law firm in Guyana is Cameron and Shepherd. How is she related to Ralph? She should ask Ralph if what I wrote isn't true.
@Former Member posted:Not really. Even if the CCJ rules in the PPP/C's favor that Sanctimonious Gangster Granger and his Harmonite strongmen will not step down. Some observers believe the Harmonites will provoke a crisis and Granger will declare a State of Emergency. But I do hope that better sense prevails and that Granger accepts peacefully a pro-PPP/C ruling by the CCJ.
My sense is that Afros will take to the streets, widespread protests, CARICOM intervention, and calls for new elections.
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@Rochelle posted:Very good arguments made on both sides.
Impressed with Mr. Reginald Armour, S.C.!
Mr. Basil Williams also came through. Good day for both sides. It really is a tough case and decision.
Indeed, indeed, indeed -- very good presentations by all sides.
PPP/C presenters were more focused on the issues, laws and the poignant point of Article 177 (2) (b) relative to "more votes are cast" and that of the Guyana Appeal Court ruling for âmore valid votes are castâ.
Former Member
@VishMahabir posted:My sense is that Afros will take to the streets, widespread protests, CARICOM intervention, and calls for new elections.
PPP will be declare the winner, Infaan will be sworn in as President.. Protest and violence in and around GT. PPP supporters are not a push over any more.. gone are those days. PPP Candidate are well protected ... I say no more on this...
@Former Member posted:PPP will be declare the winner, Infaan will be sworn in as President.. Protest and violence in and around GT. PPP supporters are not a push over any more.. gone are those days. PPP Candidate are well protected ... I say no more on this...
I am very sceptical about this. The longer it takes for the CCJ to make an announcement, the better scenario it would look for the PNC.
If the CCJ is taking so long to decide on the jurisdiction to hear the case, how long will they take to hear it and make a decision?
Former Member
@Former Member posted:Indeed, indeed, indeed -- very good presentations by all sides.
PPP/C presenters were more focused on the issues, laws and the poignant point of Article 177 (2) (b) relative to "more votes are cast" and that of the Guyana Appeal Court ruling for âmore valid votes are castâ.
Most interesting was addressing article 177(4). I have never seen someone with more hoof and mouth disease. I have said this here and was questioned by Justice Saunders: the election is not over and one cannot address this article because no president was sworn in. Our resident green dress, (plantain chips and cook up rice expert) legal interpreter was giving me holy sh*t about it. Justice Saunders settled this issue.
Former Member
@Rochelle posted:Very good arguments made on both sides.
Impressed with Mr. Reginald Armour, S.C.!
Mr. Basil Williams also came through. Good day for both sides. It really is a tough case and decision.
As a kane kutta, me could ah do betta dan Comrade Basil Dunce. He was very embarrassing to the Guyanese people. Wonder where he got his law diploma from? Reginald was confused also. Even Timothy Jonas was brilliant compared to the Dunce.
@Former Member posted:As a kane kutta, me could ah do betta dan Comrade Basil Dunce. He was very embarrassing to the Guyanese people. Wonder where he got his law diploma from? Reginald was confused also. Even Timothy Jonas was brilliant compared to the Dunce.
He is British and can't hold any public office. What big case he won ,to make a name for himself ?
Former Member
@Django posted:He is British and can't hold any public office. What big case he won ,to make a name for himself ?
That is not the point I am making. TIMOTHY JONAS MADE BASIL THE DUNCE LOOK LIKE A BOY RUNNING SHIRTTAIL.
Former Member
@Django posted:He is British and can't hold any public office. What big case he won ,to make a name for himself ?
Harmon is an American citizen and he holds a position in the de facto Granjah government. Did they not submit a petition to the US government through their lobbying firm saying Granger was an American citizen? I think there is a future for Jonas to hold office in a PPP led administration, if he is so desirous of doing so.
@Former Member posted:That is not the point I am making. TIMOTHY JONAS MADE BASIL THE DUNCE LOOK LIKE A BOY RUNNING SHIRTTAIL.
That's your view ,every Lawyer representing parties presented their submission to the CCJ ,there was no contest between Lawyers.
@Former Member posted:Harmon is an American citizen and he holds a position in the de facto Granjah government. Did they not submit a petition to the US government through their lobbying firm saying Granger was an American citizen?
I think there is a future for Jonas to hold office in a PPP led administration, if he is so desirous of doing so.
Harmon (as claimed ) give up US Citizenship .David Granger is not US Citizen.
What Office Jonas will hold in government as a British Citizen ?
Former Member
@Django posted:Harmon (as claimed ) give up US Citizenship .David Granger is not US Citizen.
What Office Jonas will hold in government as a British Citizen ?
On the dossier from their lobbying firm, they claimed he was a US citizen. It was later removed. As for Harmon, like the rest of them, we will see. I don't believe a word these fraudsters say. They believe their own lies.
@Former Member posted:On the dossier from their lobbying firm, they claimed he was a US citizen. It was later removed. As for Harmon, like the rest of them, we will see.
I don't believe a word these fraudsters say. They believe their own lies.
Perhaps their supporters will say the same about the Opposition.
Two way street bhai.
There were questions around whether the same votes cast that are used to elect a President is used to elect a national assembly. The answer is YES. I believe this question was asked to circumvent 177(4)'s exclusive jurisdiction of the COA, thereby providing CCJ to have jurisdiction to hear the matter.
There were also questions around whether there was a President elected for there to be application of 177(4). The fact remains that there is still one President duly elected into office and that remains in office. On this basis it could be argued that 177(4) does apply, and that Ms. David's matter was filed in the appropriate court and therefore, CCJ has no jurisdiction. President Granger was technically not a presidential "candidate" but a elected President who sought re-election.
And I also learned that according to some arguments, an election petition can be filed once candidates were nominated, not necessarily when GECOM declares. In other words, there technically does not have to be a declaration made for a petition to be filed.
Brilliant judges and attorneys all around.
Former Member
@Rochelle posted:There were questions around whether the same votes cast that are used to elect a President is used to elect a national assembly. The answer is YES. I believe this question was asked to circumvent 177(4)'s exclusive jurisdiction of the COA, thereby providing CCJ to have jurisdiction to hear the matter.
There were also questions around whether there was a President elected for there to be application of 177(4). The fact remains that there is still one President duly elected into office and that remains in office. On this basis it could be argued that 177(4) does apply, and that Ms. David's matter was filed in the appropriate court and therefore, CCJ has no jurisdiction. President Granger was technically not a presidential "candidate" but a elected President who sought re-election.
And I also learned that according to some arguments, an election petition can be filed once candidates were nominated, not necessarily when GECOM declares. In other words, there technically does not have to be a declaration made for a petition to be filed.
Brilliant judges and attorneys all around.
This question was debated and was rejected. The argument that if 177(4) could be used even before an election was held. The PNC lawyer was confused. The word president was emphasized and no president was elected during this process.
@Former Member posted:This question was debated and was rejected. The argument that if 177(4) could be used even before an election was held. The PNC lawyer was confused. The word president was emphasized and no president was elected during this process.
Article 177 is Voting for a President of Guyana,no Court out of the Country have any Jurisdiction to hear any matter that arises,only the Appeal Court of Guyana.
The CCJ questions are trampling on the Constitution of Guyana ,regarding electing a Head of State.
Former Member
@Django posted:Article 177 is Voting for a President of Guyana,no Court out of the Country have any Jurisdiction to hear any matter that arises,only the Appeal Court of Guyana.
Interesting. First time I heard of this. Is there any documentation? However, that was not the court case. It was whether the CoA has the authority to hear the case.
@Former Member posted:Interesting. First time I heard of this. Is there any documentation? However, that was not the court case. It was whether the CoA has the authority to hear the case.
Read the Constitution of Guyana ,Article 177 was posted on a thread. Guyana Constitution is different than any in the Caribbean. Sanders was making mockery when he asked if there is still president in Guyana.
Former Member
Good morning judge
Former Member
@Django posted:Article 177 is Voting for a President of Guyana,no Court out of the Country have any Jurisdiction to hear any matter that arises,only the Appeal Court of Guyana.
The CCJ questions are trampling on the Constitution of Guyana ,regarding electing a Head of State.
I bet if PPP did this to the PNC, the rethoric might have been different. To quote you: It cuts both ways.
@Former Member posted:I bet if PPP did this to the PNC, the rethoric might have been different. To quote you: It cuts both ways.
The PPP is not a Patriotic Political Party of Guyana ,they are a sellout ,causing the tiny Islanders Judges to disrespect Guyana.
I have made some harsh comments on the discussion blog of the live video.
Former Member
@Django posted:Read the Constitution of Guyana ,Article 177 was posted on a thread. Guyana Constitution is different than any in the Caribbean. Sanders was making mockery when he asked if there is still president in Guyana.
He is the umpire. He calls the balls and strikes. He calls it as he sees it. He does not call the pitch before it is delivered. He waits until the pitch has cleared the plate. Be nice to him.
@Former Member posted:Good morning judge
He should look after the matters in Belize.
Former Member
Basil Williams the Senior Counsel and Guyana AG was given 30 mins for his presentation, this fella use less than 10 mins claiming " massive fraud" it was obvious Saunders was upset with him. Basil the Willie trying to pull something stupid in front of the CCJ judges?
@Former Member posted:This question was debated and was rejected. The argument that if 177(4) could be used even before an election was held. The PNC lawyer was confused. The word president was emphasized and no president was elected during this process.
True - no NEW President was elected but A President was running for re-election.
Like I said, this can be argued both ways.
Former Member
I see them APNU will say the CCJ was bought out by PPPC. 
@Former Member posted:He is the umpire. He calls the balls and strikes. He calls it as he sees it. He does not call the pitch before it is delivered. He waits until the pitch has cleared the plate. Be nice to him.
Never ,most Islanders disrespects Guyanese. They hear Guyana getting rich ,so they sucking up to the sell outs , to get a piece of the pie.
Former Member
@Django posted:He should look after the matters in Belize.
You can't blame the man for the questioning. That is part of his job. It's his job to cross-examine and allow the Dunce to make his case or be the circus clown. He did the latter.
@Former Member posted:You can't blame the man for the questioning. That is part of his job. It's his job to cross-examine and allow the Dunce to make his case or be the circus clown. He did the latter.
As mentioned ,they are disrespectful to Guyana .
Former Member
@Django posted:The PPP is not a Patriotic Political Party of Guyana ,they are a sellout ,causing the tiny Islanders Judges to disrespect Guyana.
I have made some harsh comments on the discussion blog of the live video.
The PPP did not cause the judges to disrespect Guyana. It was the PNC LAWYERS WHO DISPLAYED IGNORANCE AND WERE EMBARRASSED BY THE JUDGES. BLAME THE PNC. Please don't blame the PPP for the PNC dunce attorneys. They were out of their league. Mendes performed like a genius and Basil and company could not handle the heat.
@Former Member posted:Good morning judge
What exactly does this prove?
The COA did not alter the word valid...just extrapolated on the type of vote that would and should be counted as part of "more votes cast".
Former Member
@Former Member posted:I see them APNU will say the CCJ was bought out by PPPC.
All that drug money from the past 23 years of drug deals heh? They bought the whole world. Damn! they are good.
@Former Member posted:The PPP did not cause the judges to disrespect Guyana. It was the PNC LAWYERS WHO DISPLAYED IGNORANCE AND WERE EMBARRASSED BY THE JUDGES. BLAME THE PNC. Please don't blame the PPP for the PNC dunce attorneys. They were out of their league. Mendes performed like a genius and Basil and company could not handle the heat.
Nothing to do with PNC LAWYERS, the PPP knows the CCJ don't have Jurisdiction ,they appeal the case trying to get the Judges dictate to the CEO .
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Basil doesn't know the task for the CEO is to tabulate valid votes as ascertained after a count by his staff. The CEO is not part of the counting process, his staff - the ROs and the POs, are the ones who calculate ballots and determine valid and invalid votes.
Section 96 of the ROPA doesn't permit nor instruct the CEO to "calculate valid votes"
Former Member
@Rochelle posted:What exactly does this prove?
The COA did not alter the word valid...just extrapolated on the type of vote that would and should be counted as part of "more votes cast".
If the votes were stamped, were they invalid? Who allowed invalid stamped votes when the PNC controlled the voting apparatus? Or the PPP bought all the PNC ROs too?
Former Member
@Django posted:Nothing to do with LAWYERS, the PPP knows the CCJ don't have Jurisdiction ,the appeal the case trying to get the Judges dictate to the CEO .
If the CCJ judges thought they did not have jurisdiction, why did they not refuse to hear the case? I don't think they would have wanted to waste time. Why did they spend all that time listening and questioning the lawyers who presented and defended it?
@Former Member posted:If the votes were stamped, were they invalid? Who allowed invalid stamped votes when the PNC controlled the voting apparatus? Or the PPP bought all the PNC ROs too?
Actually, most of the identified fraud and dead people votes were in PPP/C strongholds. Check your people.
Former Member
@Rochelle posted:Actually, most of the identified fraud and dead people votes were in PPP/C strongholds. Check your people.
Who identified the fraud? APNU is YET to provide a single evidence to prove this accusation.
@Former Member posted:If the CCJ judges thought they did not have jurisdiction, why did they not refuse to hear the case? I don't think they would have wanted to waste time. Why did they spend all that time listening and questioning the lawyers who presented and defended it?
They have to listen to the submissions ,they can't say no .
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@Rochelle posted:True - no NEW President was elected but A President was running for re-election.
Like I said, this can be argued both ways.
Article 177(4) addressed a president. Ali was not a president running for office. He was a candidate running for the office of the president.
Granger is a de facto president. He was also a candidate running for president. The election is not over until a president is sworn in. Only then you can address a president. Granger is squatting.
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LISTEN TO THE APNU/AFC CLAIMS OF ELECTORAL FRAUD BY THE PPP/C UNRAVEL DURING TODAYâS CCJ HEARING
Basil stumbles when asked if he has evidence to substantiate the claims he is making before the Court.
It has been well established that the APNU/AFC attempted several times to rig the elections which is all publicly documented, with global leaders and organizations testifying to that fact.
Their efforts failed as the PPP/C with sheer numbers won the elections by a clear majority. Guyanese voters including former traditional PNC supporters came out in their numbers to eject the APNU/AFC from government after a disastrous period in office.
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@Rochelle posted:Actually, most of the identified fraud and dead people votes were in PPP/C strongholds. Check your people.
Stop prattling PNC propaganda. How can this happen when PNC controlled all the election apparatus? Where are the proofs of dead or absent voters? Who identified these people? The fraudster himself...Lolofeel. This is all hogwash. If the world wasn't watching, Granger would have pulled his trademark move...Burnhamism.
The only thing notable Etched in history on 1st July is Canada Day.otherwise yesterday was a Flop for Guyana, and will be so for many more days, weeks and even Months.
Oi Django today is July 2. What did I miss yesterday? Sorry Iâm a lil behind in the news.
@Bibi Haniffa posted:Oi Django today is July 2. What did I miss yesterday? Sorry Iâm a lil behind in the news.
Tell we nuh if there is anything new.
@Former Member posted:Article 177(4) addressed a president. Ali was not a president running for office. He was a candidate running for the office of the president.
Granger is a de facto president. He was also a candidate running for president. The election is not over until a president is sworn in. Only then you can address a president. Granger is squatting.
Look how Skelly schooling we GNI resident lawyer Rochelle deh. I think Basil and her went to the same law school in August month.
@Django posted:Tell we nuh if there is anything new.
Didnât I just tell you Iâm behind in the news.
@Bibi Haniffa posted:Didnât I just tell you Iâm behind in the news.
You got to be kidding ,take sometime and make the calls.
Send me the number to call. Iâm busy with a three day wedding right now.
@Bibi Haniffa posted:Didnât I just tell you Iâm behind in the news.
That must be a first.
@Mitwah posted:That must be a first.
Iâm at a location with limited access to WiFi.
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