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If a major percentage of the labour force is employed in manufacturing, then that country is a progressive one. Employment is available to all regardless of the educational status.

American businesses have given away those individual opportunities for Americans to the Chinese, Indians, Mexican and quite recently the Macedonians.

The American government cannot tell Americans not to buy Foreign made good, then it would be against the global initiatives.

Americans have to arrive at the wakening that their future lies in what they produce and consume.

It is very basic for survival. Soon, even the Chinese, Indians and Mexicans would look inwardly towards their own consumer base.

American big business no longer look inwardly to America-Americans have maxed their credit cards. Very little money they have to spend. These businesses now seek after the emerging markets and shift investment capital to those places.

President Obama needs to make money available to small manufacturing companies, encourage research/development, provide tax incentives to distributers to promote American made products on their shelves.

The only way is buy American made products and demand from big corporations that they must source 60% of all parts on anything that is sold in American from American based companies. The Chinese demand that Foreign goods sold in China must have a considerable percentage of Chinese content.

American Corporations are only by name, they are really foreign companies to the American economy.
S
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Originally posted by Chief:
Jobs Needed!!


Chiefsta......manufacturing jobs did not leave in the last 2 years. They started leaving 30 years ago. It takes time to remove bolts and steel and machinery and ship 'em to Malaysia, Guatemala, Mexico, China, India, etc. Most of the jobs created in the Clinton era were tech jobs and concomitantly service jobs. These jobs are related to spending power of consumers and now that they are retrenching those jobs too are limited.

It's education, stupid! Educate, educate and when you innovate the jobs don't dissipate!! I sound like one ah dem rappaz...... Big Grin
Kari
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Originally posted by Kari:
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Originally posted by Chief:
Jobs Needed!!


Chiefsta......manufacturing jobs did not leave in the last 2 years. They started leaving 30 years ago. It takes time to remove bolts and steel and machinery and ship 'em to Malaysia, Guatemala, Mexico, China, India, etc. Most of the jobs created in the Clinton era were tech jobs and concomitantly service jobs. These jobs are related to spending power of consumers and now that they are retrenching those jobs too are limited.

It's education, stupid! Educate, educate and when you innovate the jobs don't dissipate!! I sound like one ah dem rappaz...... Big Grin


You seem to be out of the loop, even the jobs that require education has migrated overseas with the advent of the internet over the past 10 years. We see significant portion of IT processing being outsourced to cheaper venues such as India and other nations. Even work in accounting, xray analysis and similar type fields being outsourced to reduce cost. Millions with college and graduate degrees are out of jobs. The companies have figured out they can still make profit with less people so why hire? Your explanation is too simplistic for such a complex issue.
FM
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
...even the jobs that require education has migrated overseas with the advent of the internet over the past 10 years. We see significant portion of IT processing being outsourced to cheaper venues such as India and other nations. Even work in accounting, xray analysis and similar type fields being outsourced to reduce cost. Millions with college and graduate degrees are out of jobs. The companies have figured out they can still make profit with less people so why hire? Your explanation is too simplistic for such a complex issue.


Point taken and indeed ivy league graduates from India, china and So. Korea prefer going back to their countries. But don't overlook one thing - venture capital! This is where the capital market infrastructure and the business climate to bring innovation to market are unparalleled in the US.

That's why I focused on manufacturing. And I still believe that the US can innovate its way to the top by miles once it educates its populace and manufacture stuff in the new technologies like nano-, micro- and bio-med.

I guess I'm still out of the loop....so educate away....
Kari
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Originally posted by Kari:
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
...even the jobs that require education has migrated overseas with the advent of the internet over the past 10 years. We see significant portion of IT processing being outsourced to cheaper venues such as India and other nations. Even work in accounting, xray analysis and similar type fields being outsourced to reduce cost. Millions with college and graduate degrees are out of jobs. The companies have figured out they can still make profit with less people so why hire? Your explanation is too simplistic for such a complex issue.


Point taken and indeed ivy league graduates from India, china and So. Korea prefer going back to their countries. But don't overlook one thing - venture capital! This is where the capital market infrastructure and the business climate to bring innovation to market are unparalleled in the US.

That's why I focused on manufacturing. And I still believe that the US can innovate its way to the top by miles once it educates its populace and manufacture stuff in the new technologies like nano-, micro- and bio-med.

I guess I'm still out of the loop....so educate away....

The US needs to re-discover a new hunger for the jobs being outsourced. A series of incentives, tax and otherwise could be used to reduce the margin on the lower cost venus. I think some of this is already happening as some companies are bringing back call centers, etc.
FM
I have been innovating for years, and many of my designs have been copied by unscrupulous competitors in China and sold all over the world. It's extremely difficult to keep manufacturing jobs locally. At the same time R&D is expensive. Small upstarts have no chance of getting help from the banks with any new risky ideas.

The US pushed for uninhibited global trade, and now they are reaping the evil of what they sowed.
Mr.T
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Originally posted by baseman:
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Originally posted by Kari:
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
...even the jobs that require education has migrated overseas with the advent of the internet over the past 10 years. We see significant portion of IT processing being outsourced to cheaper venues such as India and other nations. Even work in accounting, xray analysis and similar type fields being outsourced to reduce cost. Millions with college and graduate degrees are out of jobs. The companies have figured out they can still make profit with less people so why hire? Your explanation is too simplistic for such a complex issue.


Point taken and indeed ivy league graduates from India, china and So. Korea prefer going back to their countries. But don't overlook one thing - venture capital! This is where the capital market infrastructure and the business climate to bring innovation to market are unparalleled in the US.

That's why I focused on manufacturing. And I still believe that the US can innovate its way to the top by miles once it educates its populace and manufacture stuff in the new technologies like nano-, micro- and bio-med.

I guess I'm still out of the loop....so educate away....

The US needs to re-discover a new hunger for the jobs being outsourced. A series of incentives, tax and otherwise could be used to reduce the margin on the lower cost venus. I think some of this is already happening as some companies are bringing back call centers, etc.


Manufacturing! Manufacturing! Mechanical stuff that where the jobs are.
S

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