Latest NACTA Poll finds PPP/C miles ahead of the rest.

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Former Member

BASED on NACTA’s ongoing tracking poll exercises conducted over the last couple of weeks, involving over 1300 voters, the findings up until November 21 show the incumbent PPP leading the other parties in five of seven regions. The findings of the other three regions will be released in a subsequent report as they are tabulated and analyzed.
The findings show the electorate is polarized by race with most Africans voting for APNU and a small percentage for AFC. Indians seem to split with the bulk of their votes going to the PPP and the rest to AFC. The PPP has made some gains among African/mixed voters in traditional PNC areas.

According to the projections of the findings, the PPP leads in Regions 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6 by huge lopsided majorities over its challengers. APNU leads in Regions 4 and 10, the latter by a huge margin, but still short of a majority. It is noted that the PPP and APNU are almost neck and neck in Region 4, suggesting the outcome could go either way.
The AFC is not leading in any region and is running third in all seven regions, though in Region 10, AFC and PPP are neck and neck.
The margin of error in the poll is 6%. NACTA is continuing to poll until the end of the work week when it will release its final set of findings on percentage and seat projections.

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Former Member

This i believe is a very accurate reflection of the reality on the ground

11/23/1110:14 AM

Former Member

NATA??? This poll doesn't matter

11/23/1110:23 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Brodaman:
NATA??? This poll doesn't matter

Sure! Sure! Sure!

11/23/1110:26 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by Brodaman:
NATA??? This poll doesn't matter

Sure! Sure! Sure!

I can't wait for Nov 29th

11/23/1110:28 AM

Former Member

The only Pole that matter to the PPP is the pole that the AFC banners and fliers are on. They have Antiman Ben and Gurly Kwame pulling them off.

11/23/1110:29 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by The Judge:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by Brodaman:
NATA??? This poll doesn't matter

Sure! Sure! Sure!

I can't wait for Nov 29th

after the 29th the ppp will get a pole right up where god split them

11/23/1110:31 AM

StreetsmartMember

The Poll merely confirmed the obvious.

11/23/1111:17 AM

Mr.TI pity the fool

quote:
Originally posted by The Judge:
BASED on NACTA’s ongoing tracking poll exercises conducted over the last couple of weeks, involving over 1300 voters, the findings up until November 21 show the incumbent PPP leading the other parties in five of seven regions.

Those 1300 people scared of giving out their real voting intentions. The PPP knows after all who they are. Them 1300 voters know that is best to say every week dem a gonna vote pee pee pee. Else is no netbook for their family.

11/23/1111:21 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Streetsmart:
The Poll merely confirmed the obvious.

when the ppp is not watching the people piss in the cup.

11/23/1111:25 AM

TolaSenior Member

quote:
Originally posted by Streetsmart:
The Poll merely confirmed the obvious.

True...Bisram guarding Ramotar backside again.

11/23/1111:29 AM

Former Member

Where has the PPP made inroads in black areas. FYI Indians are 36% of the population of region 4 and Africans are 41%. The PPP gets the same in region 10 as they have gotten since 1997.

11/23/112:55 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
Where has the PPP made inroads in black areas. FYI Indians are 36% of the population of region 4 and Africans are 41%. The PPP gets the same in region 10 as they have gotten since 1997.

WHEN LAST YOU EVEN VISITED GUYANA?

11/23/113:55 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by The Judge:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
Where has the PPP made inroads in black areas. FYI Indians are 36% of the population of region 4 and Africans are 41%. The PPP gets the same in region 10 as they have gotten since 1997.

WHEN LAST YOU EVEN VISITED GUYANA?

Now telling me where this break through has ocurred would have been more appropriate.

Or is it that you dont know?

Of course you will have to fool yourself that PPP gains, which didnt occur between 1992 and 2006, suddenly occurred since then.

11/23/116:47 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
Where has the PPP made inroads in black areas. FYI Indians are 36% of the population of region 4 and Africans are 41%. The PPP gets the same in region 10 as they have gotten since 1997.

From 1% to 23% in region 10 is making inroads.

This time they will get 30% in Linden.

If the PPP wins in 7 or 8 regional districts, that would be enough to give them 80% of the regional seats.. They will have a mojority of seats in parliament.

11/23/118:11 PM

Former Member

The PPP is strong in Linden. What a lot of overseas GNI people don't know is that the other parties are NOT ORGANISED like the PPP. They lack the money and infrastructure to get the people to come out and vote.

11/23/118:14 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Alexander:
The PPP is strong in Linden. What a lot of overseas GNI people don't know is that the other parties are NOT ORGANISED like the PPP. They lack the money and infrastructure to get the people to come out and vote.

The PNC constitution is working against the PNC.

After another PPP victory the opposition will cry and whine about the constitution.

Now why should the PPP change it so that the opposition can win? Are they insane?...

11/23/118:20 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
From 1% to 23% in region 10 is making inroads.

This time they will get 30% in Linden.

If the PPP wins in 7 or 8 regional districts, that would be enough to give them 80% of the regional seats.. They will have a mojority of seats in parliament.

Go argue ignorance with your fellow PPP racisst. The 23% was reached in 1997. Since then it hasnt changed. Why if the Prime Minister comes from Linden.

11/23/118:44 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Alexander:
The PPP is strong in Linden. .

Bynoe (yes that Bynoe who was almost executed for treason by Jagdeo) is running around handing out gifts like confetti.

Oh well I guess Lindeners will have to wait another 5 years after this to get attention. The dire state of Linden suggests they have been grossly neglected.

Whats interesting is the type of blacks who find favor with the PPP. Opportunists like Bynoe, Hamilton, Lumumba, Kwame, McLean, Edghill, or toothless stooges like Sam Hinds and the two Jennifers.

11/23/118:45 PM

Former Member

If those numbers hold up the PPP is screwed. Assuming NACTA has an ounce of credibility those numbers put the PPP at around 48% of the electorate.

11/23/1110:51 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by D2:

If those numbers hold up the PPP is screwed.

Assuming NACTA has an ounce of credibility those numbers put the PPP at around 48% of the electorate.

The real numbers are those from the actual votes to be cast at the 2011 elections.

The PPP/C is projected to win with more than 50%

11/23/1110:59 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by D2:

If those numbers hold up the PPP is screwed.

Assuming NACTA has an ounce of credibility those numbers put the PPP at around 48% of the electorate.

The real numbers are those from the actual votes to be cast at the 2011 elections.

The PPP/C is projected to win with more than 50%

The above is the PPP projection data dummy.

11/23/1111:01 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by D2:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by D2:

If those numbers hold up the PPP is screwed.

Assuming NACTA has an ounce of credibility those numbers put the PPP at around 48% of the electorate.

The real numbers are those from the actual votes to be cast at the 2011 elections.

The PPP/C is projected to win with more than 50%

The above is the PPP projection data dummy.

Referring to yourself as a dummy?

11/23/1111:03 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by D2:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by D2:

If those numbers hold up the PPP is screwed.

Assuming NACTA has an ounce of credibility those numbers put the PPP at around 48% of the electorate.

The real numbers are those from the actual votes to be cast at the 2011 elections.

The PPP/C is projected to win with more than 50%

The above is the PPP projection data dummy.

Referring to yourself as a dummy?

The thread clearly identifies to whom, and with regard to what, I am speaking....but I forgot, you are a bit on the senile side.

11/23/1111:06 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by D2:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

Referring to yourself as a dummy?

The thread clearly identifies to whom, and with regard to what, I am speaking....but I forgot, you are a bit on the senile side.

Ohhhh my .. You are also senile?

11/23/1111:10 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by D2:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

Referring to yourself as a dummy?

The thread clearly identifies to whom, and with regard to what, I am speaking....but I forgot, you are a bit on the senile side.

Ohhhh my .. You are also senile?

You need me to use your complete name so you may understand to whom I speak? Wither you can grasp point counter point per the conventions of the board or not.

11/23/1111:20 PM

TK_REDUX (Guest)

Last night AFC had 4000 in Linden. I did a public talk - question and answer in Cove and John - with over 100 turning out. We had a very successful TV show. People called after to say the show convinced them to vote AFC. The Glorious Revolution is taking place and I am proud to be part of it.

11/24/118:23 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
Last night AFC had 4000 in Linden. I did a public talk - question and answer in Cove and John - with over 100 turning out. We had a very successful TV show. People called after to say the show convinced them to vote AFC. The Glorious Revolution is taking place and I am proud to be part of it.

You only can fool yourself..

The AFC got 25% of the votes cast in Linden in 2006.

The polls showed that they will get less than 10 % in 2011.

11/24/118:37 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
Last night AFC had 4000 in Linden. .

So show us pictures, or is it that only your Corentyne support matters.

11/25/112:44 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
The PPP/C is projected to win with more than 50%

By a PPP suporter.

11/25/112:45 PM

StreetsmartMember

I will put it at a mere 58% and that's a pessimistic projection

11/25/112:47 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Streetsmart:
I will put it at a mere 58% and that's a pessimistic projection

So when it turns out to be 48% will you blame the PPP for rigging?

11/25/112:48 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Streetsmart:
I will put it at a mere 58% and that's a pessimistic projection

So when it turns out to be 48% will you blame the PPP for rigging?

Why are you obsessed with rigging?

If the blacks stays away form the polls the PPP will get 58% of votes CAST.

11/25/113:50 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Streetsmart:
I will put it at a mere 58% and that's a pessimistic projection

So when it turns out to be 48% will you blame the PPP for rigging?

Why are you obsessed with rigging?

If the blacks stays away form the polls the PPP will get 58% of votes CAST.

i see we get a change of shifts

11/25/114:11 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
If the blacks stays away form the polls the PPP will get 58% of votes CAST.

True but if the blacks stay away because they feel that voting offers no benefits suppose a Guyana Spring comes with Benschop working up the crowds? They will march straight to Freedom House and demand their rights.

11/25/115:27 PM

MitwahSenior Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
If the blacks stays away form the polls the PPP will get 58% of votes CAST.

True but if the blacks stay away because they feel that voting offers no benefits suppose a Guyana Spring comes with Benschop working up the crowds? They will march straight to Freedom House and demand their rights.

They lost their rights. By staying away, they have given up that right to those who have chosen to vote.

11/25/115:49 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
They lost their rights. By staying away,.

You sure about that? Maybe some people have plans that you arent privvy to.

11/25/117:56 PM

MitwahSenior Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
They lost their rights. By staying away,.

You sure about that? Maybe some people have plans that you arent privvy to.

Are you going to kill babies in their sleep?

11/25/1110:22 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
They lost their rights. By staying away,.

You sure about that? Maybe some people have plans that you arent privvy to.

you walk right into that,you have to keep your left up

11/25/1110:29 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
They lost their rights. By staying away,.

You sure about that? Maybe some people have plans that you arent privvy to.

Are you going to kill babies in their sleep?

Mitwah, excellent-why you hit him so hard?

11/25/1111:45 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by The Judge:
This i believe is a very accurate reflection of the reality on the ground

Ohh Judge, surprise us with your opinion nah. AFC whipping your asses on your home turf.

11/26/1112:16 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Matrix:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
They lost their rights. By staying away,.

You sure about that? Maybe some people have plans that you arent privvy to.

Are you going to kill babies in their sleep?

Mitwah, excellent-why you hit him so hard?

Neither he nor you need worry about me. However there are others that BOTH of you need to be concerned about.

Continue to take people for granted. A "Guyana Spring" mightnt be too far off. Just keep your ears close to the ground.

11/26/111:04 AM

Former Member

More sounds like "Operation Spring". Nuff ex-soldiers re-enlisting for combat duty.

11/26/113:56 AM

Former Member

The P.P.P/C has a realistic manifesto...one that the Guyanese populace embraces....thus will support the P.P.P/C...

11/26/117:03 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by albert:
The P.P.P/C has a realistic manifesto...one that the Guyanese populace embraces....thus will support the P.P.P/C...

and an unrealistic pension plan for the president.

11/26/117:41 AM

Former Member

I still think the AFC will do better than APNU.

11/26/113:24 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by albert:
The P.P.P/C has a realistic manifesto...one that the Guyanese populace embraces....thus will support the P.P.P/C...

The PPP Manifesto is cocaine and more cocaine!

Reference ID Created Released Classification Origin
06GEORGETOWN112 2006-02-01 13:37 2011-08-30 01:44 SECRET Embassy Georgetown

This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 GEORGETOWN 000112

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

SOUTHCOM ALSO FOR POLAD

E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/01/2016
TAGS: SNAR PINR PINS PGOV KCRM KCOR NS GY
SUBJECT: SHAHEED “ROGER” KHAN: GUYANA’S OWN ESCOBAR?

REF: A. PARAMARIBO 39
¶B. 05 GEORGETOWN 1253
¶C. 05 GEORGETOWN 1122
¶D. 04 GEORGETOWN 426
¶E. 04 GEORGETOWN 29

Classified By: Ambassador Roland W. Bullen
for reason 1.4(b) and (d)

¶1. (S) SUMMARY. Shaheed “Roger” Khan (DOB: 13-Jan-72),
Guyana’s number one narco-criminal, threatens to exert
control over the fragile Guyanese state akin to Pablo
Escobar’s erstwhile control over Colombia. Khan is presently
active in drug trafficking, money laundering, and arms
smuggling. His so-called legitimate economic interests
include construction and forestry. Vermont has an
outstanding warrant for Khan’s arrest on weapons charges.
END SUMMARY.

Narcotics
———
¶2. (S) Khan is believed to be Guyana’s leading drug
trafficker, more powerful than other established players such
as Clay Hutson, Ricardo Rodrigues, and Brahma Nandalall. He
established connections with Colombian criminals a few years
ago and has since become a major trafficker of cocaine from
Colombia. Khan has risen to the top of Guyana’s
narco-criminal class quickly and ostentatiously. His
Colombian associates scolded him in September 2004 for his
indiscriminate activities and advised him to get out of the
spotlight.

¶3. (S) DEA developed a plan in 2004 to establish a
counternarcotics operation in Guyana. An informant leaked
details about the plan. After the leak, Khan threatened to
blow up the site of the operation and threatened the lives of
Ambassador and the then RSO (Ref D). These threats forced
the operation’s abandonment.

¶4. (S) Khan surrounds himself with a coterie of former police
tactical squad members for security. He reportedly pays his
low-level security personnel USD 1,600 per month — at least
eight times what they previously earned with the police force.

Phantom Squad and Bouterse Connections
————————————–
¶5. (C) Khan was a principle in the “Phantom Squad” (aka death
squad) that former Minister of Home Affairs Gajraj employed
to crack down on crime from 2002 to 2004 (Ref E).

¶6. (S) Minister of Home Affairs told us Khan regularly
travels to Suriname and Trinidad and meets with Desi
Bouterse. According to RNAS, Khan and Bouterse met at a
hotel in Suriname as recently as December 2005.

Arms Smuggling
————–
¶7. (S/NF) According to RNAS, Khan has been active in
smuggling arms into Guyana from Suriname, French Guyana, and
possibly France. He exchanges cocaine for the arms. Khan
has also established connections with FARC and has acted as a
middleman in cocaine for arms transactions. In such
instances, Khan has smuggled guns into Guyana and then
exchanged them with the FARC for cocaine. There are strong
indications that Khan was deeply involved in a December 2005
shipment of weapons to FARC in Columbia.

Money Laundering and other Economic Interests
———————————————
¶8. (S) Khan has a business relationship with Farouk Razac of
Swiss House Cambio, a big money laundering operation, to
launder his narco-trafficking proceeds. According to RNAS,
Khan’s drug proceeds have also funded mosques and sent
Muslims to study abroad.

¶9. (U) Khan acquired Kaow Island in the Essequibo River from
local entrepreneur and suspected drug dealer Harry Rambarran
in February 2005. Once owned by the now bankrupt Willems
Timber, Kaow Island has a wharf for ocean going vessels, an
airstrip, access to Guyana’s bush roads that radiate out from
Bartica, and a 136,000-acre timber concession. In September
2005, Rambarran sued Khan for defaulting on a USD 1.1 million
promissory note made in partial payment for the island.

¶10. (C) Khan is reportedly in negotiations with former
GUYSUCO Chairman Vic Oditt to purchase a 200 square mile
ranch at Pirara in the Southern Rupununi region. The ranch
has a large airstrip, and Khan is believed to be acting at
the behest of Colombian or Panamanian narco-interests.

¶11. (U) In late 2005 the Guyana Forestry Commission granted
a State Forest Exploratory Permit for a large tract of land
in Guyana’s interior to Aurelius Inc., a company controlled
by Khan (Ref C).

¶12. (U) Khan is a director of Classic Development Inc. and
Dream Works Developers, both construction concerns. Khan is
financing several real estate projects, including a 60-70
unit housing unit development in East Bank Demerara near the
new stadium under construction for the 2007 Cricket World Cup.

¶13. (C) Guyanese Bank executives tell us all this is being
done without any bank financing.

Run-ins with the Law
——————–
¶14. (U) According to LEGATT/Port of Spain, Khan is wanted in
Vermont on weapons charges. Vermont has not sought Khan’s
extradition.

¶15. (U) Khan and two other men, one an active duty policeman,
were arrested at a Guyana Defence Force roadblock in December
2002 at Good Hope, East Coast Demerara in a bulletproof
vehicle. The vehicle contained sophisticated cell phone
intercept equipment, satellite phones, and high-powered
weapons. All three were found not guilty of illegal
possession of arms and ammunition charges.

¶16. (C) A senior functionary in the Office of the President
told us that the communications equipment and weapons were
handed back over to Khan. Our interlocutor said the arrest
had been “a mistake” because Khan was “working with the
police” when the arrest was made.

¶17. (U) According to local newspapers, Khan and a colleague
appeared in court January 4, 2006 on charges of “wounding”
following an incident in which an individual was assaulted
and had a gun placed to his head. Both pled not guilty and
were released on GYD 15,000 (USD 75) bail.

Political Influence
——————-
¶18. (C) Khan has bought off countless people in Guyana.
Through this patronage he is able to operate with impunity.
It is believed that GoG is compromised to such an extent that
it will not pursue Khan, despite paying lip service to the
fight against narco-trafficking.

Comment
——-
¶19. (C) Multiple sources have expressed fears to Ambassador
that not only has Khan penetrated almost every level of
Guyanese government and society, but that he will exert ever
greater influence over the political scene beginning with
this year’s elections. Most respected commentators believe
that Guyana has already become or is well on the way to being
a narco-state. If Guyana is a narco-state, then Khan is its
leader. Ambassador has spoken with GoG to little avail about
Khan’s drug activities and unaccounted wealth. The GoG has
adopted a head-in-the-sand approach to Khan and
narco-trafficking in general. The GoG asks for hard evidence
and pretends not to know how Khan acquires his means. END
COMMENT.
BULLEN

11/26/113:26 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by alena:
I still think the AFC will do better than APNU.

Think again.

11/26/113:28 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by alena:
I still think the AFC will do better than APNU.

Think again.

¶19. (C) Multiple sources have expressed fears to Ambassador
that not only has Khan penetrated almost every level of
Guyanese government and society, but that he will exert ever
greater influence over the political scene beginning with
this year’s elections. Most respected commentators believe
that Guyana has already become or is well on the way to being
a narco-state. If Guyana is a narco-state, then Khan is its
leader. Ambassador has spoken with GoG to little avail about
Khan’s drug activities and unaccounted wealth. The GoG has
adopted a head-in-the-sand approach to Khan and
narco-trafficking in general. The GoG asks for hard evidence
and pretends not to know how Khan acquires his means. END
COMMENT.
BULLEN

11/26/113:34 PM

Former Member

The Ambassador is an ass. he should have spoken to the Police commisioner. The Ambassador should pay attention to the DEA which sends drugs from Columbia to the USA.

11/26/113:37 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by alena:
I still think the AFC will do better than APNU.

and the PPP/C.

11/26/113:47 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The Ambassador is an ass. he should have spoken to the Police commisioner. The Ambassador should pay attention to the DEA which sends drugs from Columbia to the USA.

Shaheed ‘Roger’ Khan was one of the most complete criminals in Guyana’s history. He acquired vast properties, recruited serving police officers, ordered executions, imported and exported cocaine, laundered millions of dollars, possessed specialised intercept equipment and armed himself with a wide assortment of handguns and ammunition. All of this was possible only because of his special relationship with the Guyana Government. He enjoyed immunity from an indulgent administration and compliant law enforcement agencies. Even now, the administration has made no attempt to conduct official inquiries nor has the police force attempted to bring Khan and his well-known accomplices to justice.

His successful application to United States District Court Judge Dora L Irizarry to plead guilty to trafficking in 150 kilogrammes of cocaine, witness tampering and gun-running, is an anti-climax to a callous criminal career. He will go to jail for a few years but will leave many questions unanswered.

11/26/113:52 PM

Former Member

A landslide victory awaits the P.P.P/C....

11/26/115:12 PM

Former Member

Another poll will be out tomorrow..

11/26/116:39 PM

Former Member

Originally Posted by Alexander:

The PPP is strong in Linden. .

WOW!

12/12/142:32 AM

Former Member

Originally Posted by The Judge:

NACTA who?

Is this the fool BUSHRUM, who said the PPP will win by a landslide with over 60 percent of the votes in 2011?

12/12/145:33 PM

MitwahSenior Member

12/12/145:41 PM

Former Member

Yes I feel compelled to remind people of what they screamed 3 years ago. Even they now implicitly concede that the PPP perceives itself to be in a weaker position than it thought it was in 2011.

12/12/1410:07 PM

Former Member

Ramutar will delay the elections as long as he can and that is why the APNU and the AFC have to stay on the streets.

HAVE TO!

Burn his feet with slow fiya.

12/13/149:52 PM

Former Member

Originally Posted by KishanB:

Ramutar will delay the elections as long as he can and that is why the APNU and the AFC have to stay on the streets.

HAVE TO!

Burn his feet with slow fiya.

Its a pity that Guyana is so primitive that the courts cannot be used for this purpose. After all the protesters need either to work or to look for work. They aren't being paid while they protest.

12/13/149:55 PM