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Lavish Lindeners urged to conserve on electricity use

– average household pays $2000 per month

LECI CEO Horace James

LECI CEO Horace James

Linden Electricity Company Incorporation (LECI) said the annual multibillion subsidy offered to Linden can be reduced by 50 per cent if Lindeners conserve on electricity.

In this year’s budget, Government allocated $3.2 billion to assist LECI and Kwakwani Utilities Inc for provision of electricity to 10,500 customers in Region 10. From the grand total, LECI will receive $2.830 billion while the remaining $345.7 million will be used to subsidise Kwakwani Utilities Inc.

Speaking with Guyana Times on Monday, James said on average a household in Linden consumes approximately 280 kilowatts per month when electricity consumers in other parts of Guyana are consuming approximately 150 kilowatts per month, per household.

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

Prime Minister Samuel Hinds

Prime Minister Samuel Hinds

Guyana Times was told that the multibillion dollar subsidy can be removed completely and channelled towards other developmental activities, if there is an increase in electricity tariff to $60 per kilowatt per hour. Currently, residential consumers on the Mackenzie shore pay $5 per kilowatt while business entities are charged $12 per kilowatt. Meanwhile, James said LECI only managed to rake in a meagre $180 million in revenues from Linden consumers while $20 million was generated from the Ituni branch at the end of the year.

Additionally, in 2013, the corporation received approximately $24 million from the Linden Utility Services Co-op Society Limited (LUSCSL), which it sells electricity to.

But even when all the revenues are merged, the LECI CEO said the money is still highly insufficient to manage its affairs, hence, Government subsidy becomes necessary. The revenues garnered are used for transmission, distribution, meter reading and billing while the Government subsidy is paid to Bosai Minerals Group Guyana Incorporated (BMGGI) for the generation of electricity.

With residents paying only $5 per kWh, their bills are less than $2000 at the end of the month, a source told Guyana Times.

 

Less dependent

With an increase in tariff, the mining town can become less dependent on Government’s subsidy.

“Currently, residents are not paying for what they are consuming because their rates are highly subsidised by Government… if there is an increase, the company’s operation can become more viable,” the  source added.

The source said the corporation is struggling to keep its head above rough water as there is often little profit remaining, when the operational cost is billed at the end of the year.

In 2012, the Donald Ramotar administration had announced a hike in electricity tariffs, but this announcement was met with a series of protest action. It subsequently evolved into deadly unrest when protesters and ranks of the Guyana Police Force clashed at the Mackenzie/Wismar Bridge on July 18, 2012.

To bring an end to the violent unrest, the Government and the Region 10 Regional Democratic Council signed an August 21, 2012 agreement which give rise to several committees. Among the committees was the Technical Committee, which was mandated to investigate the electricity situation in Linden, including the history, the costs, the tariff structure and the subsidies.

A study on Region 10’s economic circumstances and its ability to facilitate an increase cost of electricity, consideration of the advantages and disadvantages of the integration of supply of electricity in Linden on the national grid, and recommendations are among duties that are yet to be executed by the Technical Committee.

 

Promises

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Samuel Hinds during an interview with the National Communications Network (NCN) over the weekend said Government has maintained its promise to the people of Linden. The Government and the region have agreed that there will be no increase in electricity tariffs until the Technical Committee completes its work.  However, he said the subsidy per customer will work out to be $291, 000 per year or close to $24,000 per month on the average. He too is arguing that Lindeners consume approximately 50 to 100 per cent more in electricity than persons in the capital city. According to the Prime Minister, if persons cut back on their electricity consumption, the state would have more but their consumption will not affect their comfort.

Meanwhile, former Georgetown Chamber of Commerce and Industry (GCCI) President Clinton Urling said in the 2014 Budget, the Government should have used the opportunity to tie subsidy and declare Linden as “an electricity free manufacturing zone” to encourage manufacturers to set up operations and pursue the industrial diversification of the economy.

“These electricity zones could offer free electricity for a number of years and gradually include charges as companies’ financial and operational performances improve,” Urling suggested during a recent press conference.

 

source: Guyanatimes

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Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

Shyt your silly behind. Divide  u 6billion dollars between the 25 thousand cane cutters and associated sugar workers and see how much freebies they are getting. And that is the tip of the ice berg since the industry has been a symphony for cash for 2 decades with no break even point on the horizon due to theft, squandermania and incompetence by the PPP

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

Shyt your silly behind. Divide  u 6billion dollars between the 25 thousand cane cutters and associated sugar workers and see how much freebies they are getting. And that is the tip of the ice berg since the industry has been a symphony for cash for 2 decades with no break even point on the horizon due to theft, squandermania and incompetence by the PPP

Are you that stupid and illiterate???  I have to think it is just a temporary brain freeze.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

Shyt your silly behind. Divide  u 6billion dollars between the 25 thousand cane cutters and associated sugar workers and see how much freebies they are getting. And that is the tip of the ice berg since the industry has been a symphony for cash for 2 decades with no break even point on the horizon due to theft, squandermania and incompetence by the PPP

Are you that stupid and illiterate???  I have to think it is just a temporary brain freeze.

Sorry, those labels are richly deserving to be yours exclusively! Thinking and rum do not go together.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

Shyt your silly behind. Divide  u 6billion dollars between the 25 thousand cane cutters and associated sugar workers and see how much freebies they are getting. And that is the tip of the ice berg since the industry has been a symphony for cash for 2 decades with no break even point on the horizon due to theft, squandermania and incompetence by the PPP

Are you that stupid and illiterate???  I have to think it is just a temporary brain freeze.

Sorry, those labels are richly deserving to be yours exclusively! Thinking and rum do not go together.

It fits you to the glove since you are the one making ILLITERATE and STUPID statements!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

 

 

Well why don't the PPP start to bring balance in a phased manner?

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

 

 

Well why don't the PPP start to bring balance in a phased manner?

Can you help them on how to do so. You input will be apprreciated.

Nehru
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

 

 

Well why don't the PPP start to bring balance in a phased manner?

Let the cane cutters pay $5 per kwh and call it even.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

Shyt your silly behind. Divide  u 6billion dollars between the 25 thousand cane cutters and associated sugar workers and see how much freebies they are getting. And that is the tip of the ice berg since the industry has been a symphony for cash for 2 decades with no break even point on the horizon due to theft, squandermania and incompetence by the PPP

Are you that stupid and illiterate???  I have to think it is just a temporary brain freeze.

Sorry, those labels are richly deserving to be yours exclusively! Thinking and rum do not go together.

It fits you to the glove since you are the one making ILLITERATE and STUPID statements!!!

 To the contrary. I was making a comparison to help you equate the relevance or not of various subsidies. Unfortunately, you are made of the same racist crap as those in the PPP who constantly sell the idea Lindeners are freeloaders for receiving 3 billion in subsidies when another group gets more. Why they  get these monies or rather who gets the most benefit  is not even in the deliberation since incompetence and thief and cronyism of t he PPP would then muddy the waters.  I was trying to keep it simple for a dunce.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

Shyt your silly behind. Divide  u 6billion dollars between the 25 thousand cane cutters and associated sugar workers and see how much freebies they are getting. And that is the tip of the ice berg since the industry has been a symphony for cash for 2 decades with no break even point on the horizon due to theft, squandermania and incompetence by the PPP

Are you that stupid and illiterate???  I have to think it is just a temporary brain freeze.

Sorry, those labels are richly deserving to be yours exclusively! Thinking and rum do not go together.

It fits you to the glove since you are the one making ILLITERATE and STUPID statements!!!

 To the contrary. I was making a comparison to help you equate the relevance or not of various subsidies. Unfortunately, you are made of the same racist crap as those in the PPP who constantly sell the idea Lindeners are freeloaders for receiving 3 billion in subsidies when another group gets more. Why they  get these monies or rather who gets the most benefit  is not even in the deliberation since incompetence and thief and cronyism of t he PPP would then muddy the waters.  I was trying to keep it simple for a dunce.

You are indeed a sample. Continue to shame yourself. In the first place your socalled comparison is not only laughable but simply your usual way of mixing apples with orange. It is not totally your fault, it is just the way your brain works.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

Shyt your silly behind. Divide  u 6billion dollars between the 25 thousand cane cutters and associated sugar workers and see how much freebies they are getting. And that is the tip of the ice berg since the industry has been a symphony for cash for 2 decades with no break even point on the horizon due to theft, squandermania and incompetence by the PPP

Are you that stupid and illiterate???  I have to think it is just a temporary brain freeze.

Sorry, those labels are richly deserving to be yours exclusively! Thinking and rum do not go together.

It fits you to the glove since you are the one making ILLITERATE and STUPID statements!!!

 To the contrary. I was making a comparison to help you equate the relevance or not of various subsidies. Unfortunately, you are made of the same racist crap as those in the PPP who constantly sell the idea Lindeners are freeloaders for receiving 3 billion in subsidies when another group gets more. Why they  get these monies or rather who gets the most benefit  is not even in the deliberation since incompetence and thief and cronyism of t he PPP would then muddy the waters.  I was trying to keep it simple for a dunce.

You are indeed a sample. Continue to shame yourself. In the first place your socalled comparison is not only laughable but simply your usual way of mixing apples with orange. It is not totally your fault, it is just the way your brain works.

Indeed the comparison would be laughable since those lazy n.egroes did not "earn" their subsidies and the hard working coolies did!!!! do you have another argument?

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

 

 

Well why don't the PPP start to bring balance in a phased manner?

Why not a $10 increase in LINDEN in 2014?

FM
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

The PPP gov't has been too kind to Lindeners. It's time to get tough. The other parties are interested in grabbing power.

Why is it a "Sin" for the other party to want power? Does the PPP possessing it means therin is the only place it could be considered a virtue? Dont disguise your bigotry. Prejudices does a body bad.

 

Lindeners are getting the electricity at th e price it costs to produce. WHy should cheaper electricity sold by BOSAI be pro rated and resold by that fat sweaty Penguin Brazzington through GPL? GPL is 40 percent inefficient by their own accounting.  It means the fair cost of GPL electricity is 40 percent less than they charge.

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

They all steal electricity. 

Thank heavens cane cutters don't have electric cutlasses.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

They all steal electricity. 

Thank heavens cane cutters don't have electric cutlasses.

   HE HE HA HA

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

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Meanwhile, former Georgetown Chamber of Commerce and Industry (GCCI) President Clinton Urling said in the 2014 Budget, the Government should have used the opportunity to tie subsidy and declare Linden as “an electricity free manufacturing zone” to encourage manufacturers to set up operations and pursue the industrial diversification of the economy.

“These electricity zones could offer free electricity for a number of years and gradually include charges as companies’ financial and operational performances improve,” Urling suggested during a recent press conference.

 

source: Guyanatimes

 

 

Now that would make sense, also given that Linden had (probably no longer has) a high concentration of skilled workers, given the high skills needed in the bauxite industry.

 

 

That would have been an offset to the massive lay offs resulting from the sale of Guymine.

 

But black people live there so the PPP will never do that.

 

They rather peddle the "lazy and greedy black man" myth to scare their base to stay with them.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

The PPP gov't has been too kind to Lindeners. It's time to get tough. The other parties are interested in grabbing power.

 

 

How?  they sold Guymine and threw Lindeners on the bread line, something which they refuse to do for sugar workers.

 

Please out line measures taken by the PPP to encourage the creation of decent paying jobs that were lost when they savaged Lindeners to the Chinese wolves.   After all isn't there the complaint the manufacturing in Guyana suffers because of high energy costs?  Well we have a zone which ha slower energy costs, and has (or had) a pool of skilled labor, and is a zone which is owed help due to the role of the PPP in furthering impoverishing it by selling Guymine to the Chinese, who promptly laid off 80% of the workers.

FM
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Originally Posted by Nehru:

Something is seriously WRONG when Cane Cutters have to pay 60 dollars per KW and Lindeners are paying $5.!!!!!!!

Cane cutters have jobs compliments of taxpayers, including those who live in Linden.

 

Whats your point?  If sugar workers need to be protected from a failing Guysuco why do you grudge Lindeners who were abandoned by the PPP when they sold Guymine to the Chinese?

 

If you justify the sale of Guymine then you must clearly agree to the sale of Guysuco, or confirm your status as a racist who hates blacks.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Let the cane cutters pay $5 per kwh and call it even.

It will only be even when all of those bauxite workers who lost their jobs after BOSAI and RUSAL fired them get their jobs back.  This is why all of you jump up and down when any mention is made of selling Guysuco.  You know full well that any private owners will do to them exactly what the Chinese and the Russians did to bauxite workers.

FM

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

 

 

The above estimate of electricity use as lavish is absurd. First, the average laptop, plus fridge plus cooking would exceed that number. That 300 kWh is wrong. That others only use 150 kWh per month has to be false also. I use 2000 kWh per month and there are only two of us in this house and we eat out often and is away at least one week a month.

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

 

 

The above estimate of electricity use as lavish is absurd. First, the average laptop, plus fridge plus cooking would exceed that number. That 300 kWh is wrong. That others only use 150 kWh per month has to be false also. I use 2000 kWh per month and there are only two of us in this house and we eat out often and is away at least one week a month.

 

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

The man lives in Guyana and he should know. We in NA should not be pretending that we know what's best for Guyanese in Guyana.

 

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

 

 

The above estimate of electricity use as lavish is absurd. First, the average laptop, plus fridge plus cooking would exceed that number. That 300 kWh is wrong. That others only use 150 kWh per month has to be false also. I use 2000 kWh per month and there are only two of us in this house and we eat out often and is away at least one week a month.

 

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

The man lives in Guyana and he should know. We in NA should not be pretending that we know what's best for Guyanese in Guyana.

 

electronic equipment burns the same amount of electricity here or there. One can find that out easily on the power supply and do the multiplication for per hour cost and average use.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

 

 

The above estimate of electricity use as lavish is absurd. First, the average laptop, plus fridge plus cooking would exceed that number. That 300 kWh is wrong. That others only use 150 kWh per month has to be false also. I use 2000 kWh per month and there are only two of us in this house and we eat out often and is away at least one week a month.

 

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

The man lives in Guyana and he should know. We in NA should not be pretending that we know what's best for Guyanese in Guyana.

 

electronic equipment burns the same amount of electricity here or there. One can find that out easily on the power supply and do the multiplication for per hour cost and average use.

I agree. In my household, we have 2 kids. We run 2 tvs for long hours, xbox 360, all our appliances, cell phones are on charge all the time, curling iron, hair dryer, hair straightener, 3 laptops etc. We donot burn 2000Kw a month. Unless you have electric heat and stove, I cannot see how you burn 2000 KW a month.

My mother's electric bills in Guyana never exceeded $4000.00 a month. She had a TV, fridge and dvd player. Her light bulbs were all energy efficient. I guess if you pay a discounted rate, then you have no incentive to conserve.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

 

 

The above estimate of electricity use as lavish is absurd. First, the average laptop, plus fridge plus cooking would exceed that number. That 300 kWh is wrong. That others only use 150 kWh per month has to be false also. I use 2000 kWh per month and there are only two of us in this house and we eat out often and is away at least one week a month.

 

While the consumption rate by residents has reduced from an average of 300 kilowatt per household per month, James said a further reduction to 150 kilowatts can result in the subsidy being slashed by almost 50 per cent.

The man lives in Guyana and he should know. We in NA should not be pretending that we know what's best for Guyanese in Guyana.

 

electronic equipment burns the same amount of electricity here or there. One can find that out easily on the power supply and do the multiplication for per hour cost and average use.

I agree. In my household, we have 2 kids. We run 2 tvs for long hours, xbox 360, all our appliances, cell phones are on charge all the time, curling iron, hair dryer, hair straightener, 3 laptops etc. We donot burn 2000Kw a month. Unless you have electric heat and stove, I cannot see how you burn 2000 KW a month.

My mother's electric bills in Guyana never exceeded $4000.00 a month. She had a TV, fridge and dvd player. Her light bulbs were all energy efficient. I guess if you pay a discounted rate, then you have no incentive to conserve.

we have 2400 sq feet and everything is electric. I run 2 TVs computers fridge, freezer, water cooler, stove, coffee maker Microwave, computers,  AV system, heat pump etc

FM

I really wonder if GPL knows what the average Guyanese really use in its service areas.  What with widespread black outs, theft and use of private generators.  Linden quite probably doesnt have these issues.

FM

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