Leader or nothing! – Ramjattan
January 23, 2015 By
AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan
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Former Member
They do have balls...you have to give them that...they put forward the no confidence motion...didn't they?
Former Member
Leader or nothing by Ramjattan is a tough sell. Without compromise, there will be no coalition with APNU and AFC.
Former Member
The A.F.C is now officially a "dead meat" party, the sympathy votes that political party obtain in 2011 now are all vanished.
Former Member
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
They do have balls...you have to give them that...they put forward the no confidence motion...didn't they?
I have to give them that much. But what is important here? Demanding leadership, or form a coalition to defeat the PPP?
Former Member
History has a sense of repeating itself, the U.F made the ill-advised decision and collated with the P.N.C in 1964 elections, the nation suffered 28 years of dictatorship as a result. The Guyanese populace are no fools, those who survived the 28 years of P.N.C iron fist rule, would never, never,never allow their offspring to endure what they went through.
Former Member
Councie....
Could you tell us
what type of Decision
the PPP made by putting Kwame
in their Leadership?
Cain.....
Let us see if Councie
will Expose Kwame BT?
Originally Posted by Conscience:
History has a sense of repeating itself, the U.F made the ill-advised decision and collated with the P.N.C in 1964 elections, the nation suffered 28 years of dictatorship as a result. The Guyanese populace are no fools, those who survived the 28 years of P.N.C iron fist rule, would never, never,never allow their offspring to endure what they went through.
So you think they would like to put back in that corrupt,sleazy,backward government that murders even their own, known as the PPP?
Former Member
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Leader or nothing! – Ramjattan
January 23, 2015 By GuyanaTimes
AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan
AFC/PNC/APNU coalition talks:
By Michael Younge
The Alliance For Change (AFC) on Thursday made it absolutely clear that it would abandon any proposal to coalesce with A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) if the party did not emerge from ongoing talks as the leader of the pre-electoral alliance.
AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan when questioned by this newspaper during the party’s weekly media encounter insisted that the alliance “must” be led by his party.
Ramjattan made this point again despite APNU Chairman David Granger strongly rejecting such a possibility. Granger has insisted that his coalition deserved to be at the core and helm of any alliance arrangement with the AFC because it commanded more political support when compared to the minority Opposition party.
At the 2011 General and Regional Elections, APNU received 139,678 votes (26 seats in the National Assembly); the AFC 35,333 (seven seats); and the governing People’s Progressive Party Civic 166,340 (32 seats).
“As I have publicly stated it [the pre-electoral alliance] must be led by the Alliance For Change,” the AFC reiterated on Thursday.
When asked whether the AFC saw its support dwindling at the upcoming elections because a large portion of its support base did not trust nor wanted to be associated with the People’s National Congress (PNC)/APNU style of politics, Ramjattan boldly responded in the negative.
A seemingly uncomfortable Ramjattan tried hard to explain that there would be no reduction of support because the AFC would lead the coalition and its own policies would lay the foundation for the work of the APNU/AFC Government after the next polls. “That is the conditionality, the AFC must lead it,” he said.
Trust?
Quizzed further, Ramjattan denied that his allegation that the ruling People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) had given $30 million bribes to three Opposition Members of Parliament (MPs) who were not from the AFC – and so had to be from APNU – would have any bearing on the ongoing talks. “It has no relevance,” he said, while denying that he had outrightly identified the MPs as those of APNU.
He did this when it was clear to all and sundry that there were only two Opposition parliamentary parties in the 65-seat Legislature.
Seeking to soften both the tone and impact that Ramjattan’s statement could possibly have on the health of the ongoing secret talks ahead of the May 11, 2015 elections, AFC General Secretary David Patterson quickly stated that the party would avoid speculating on the outcome of the negotiations.
Again downplaying Ramjattan’s hardliner position, Patterson said: “I have told them personally, that is my General Secretary counterpart, that I am the official spokesperson and my official word is what he should be hearing.”
Patterson also said that the level of trust between the two parties was “high” despite the fact that his party had forced APNU to sign an agreement of secrecy as a prerequisite to talks. Questioned whether any aspect of the agreement and proposals would be made public, the General Secretary said, “They will be, in time…due course.”
He had maintained that the party was sticking with the deadline it set for arriving at a basic consensus as to the way forward for the talks.
“We have already given ourselves till the end of this month (January),” he told the journalists gathered. He declined to divulge any further information on the secret talks which are being held despite growing public sentiment that the talks are farcical and being done genuinely.
Ramjattan is a nutcase. The PNC brings a lot more to the table than the AFC.
The AFC has no support base.
In the end, the AFC will hand over a Majority to the PPP. That 54 percent number might even go a bit higher.
The clock is ticking for the opposition and talks have hit a roadblock.
Former Member
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Leader or nothing! – Ramjattan
January 23, 2015 By GuyanaTimes
AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan
AFC/PNC/APNU coalition talks:
By Michael Younge
The Alliance For Change (AFC) on Thursday made it absolutely clear that it would abandon any proposal to coalesce with A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) if the party did not emerge from ongoing talks as the leader of the pre-electoral alliance.
AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan when questioned by this newspaper during the party’s weekly media encounter insisted that the alliance “must” be led by his party.
Ramjattan made this point again despite APNU Chairman David Granger strongly rejecting such a possibility. Granger has insisted that his coalition deserved to be at the core and helm of any alliance arrangement with the AFC because it commanded more political support when compared to the minority Opposition party.
At the 2011 General and Regional Elections, APNU received 139,678 votes (26 seats in the National Assembly); the AFC 35,333 (seven seats); and the governing People’s Progressive Party Civic 166,340 (32 seats).
“As I have publicly stated it [the pre-electoral alliance] must be led by the Alliance For Change,” the AFC reiterated on Thursday.
When asked whether the AFC saw its support dwindling at the upcoming elections because a large portion of its support base did not trust nor wanted to be associated with the People’s National Congress (PNC)/APNU style of politics, Ramjattan boldly responded in the negative.
A seemingly uncomfortable Ramjattan tried hard to explain that there would be no reduction of support because the AFC would lead the coalition and its own policies would lay the foundation for the work of the APNU/AFC Government after the next polls. “That is the conditionality, the AFC must lead it,” he said.
Trust?
Quizzed further, Ramjattan denied that his allegation that the ruling People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) had given $30 million bribes to three Opposition Members of Parliament (MPs) who were not from the AFC – and so had to be from APNU – would have any bearing on the ongoing talks. “It has no relevance,” he said, while denying that he had outrightly identified the MPs as those of APNU.
He did this when it was clear to all and sundry that there were only two Opposition parliamentary parties in the 65-seat Legislature.
Seeking to soften both the tone and impact that Ramjattan’s statement could possibly have on the health of the ongoing secret talks ahead of the May 11, 2015 elections, AFC General Secretary David Patterson quickly stated that the party would avoid speculating on the outcome of the negotiations.
Again downplaying Ramjattan’s hardliner position, Patterson said: “I have told them personally, that is my General Secretary counterpart, that I am the official spokesperson and my official word is what he should be hearing.”
Patterson also said that the level of trust between the two parties was “high” despite the fact that his party had forced APNU to sign an agreement of secrecy as a prerequisite to talks. Questioned whether any aspect of the agreement and proposals would be made public, the General Secretary said, “They will be, in time…due course.”
He had maintained that the party was sticking with the deadline it set for arriving at a basic consensus as to the way forward for the talks.
“We have already given ourselves till the end of this month (January),” he told the journalists gathered. He declined to divulge any further information on the secret talks which are being held despite growing public sentiment that the talks are farcical and being done genuinely.
Ramjattan is a nutcase. The PNC brings a lot more to the table than the AFC.
The AFC has no support base.
In the end, the AFC will hand over a Majority to the PPP. That 54 percent number might even go a bit higher.
The clock is ticking for the opposition and talks have hit a roadblock.
say the man in the streets or in this case the asswipe batty boy
If the Madman from 48 thinks the leaders of APNU are naïve to let him lead an anti-PPP alliance he better go get his cranium examined.
Former Member
Seems the PPP folks on here more afraid of AFC vs APNU....by their comments
why is that?
Former Member
Originally Posted by Conscience:
History has a sense of repeating itself, the U.F made the ill-advised decision and collated with the P.N.C in 1964 elections, the nation suffered 28 years of dictatorship as a result. The Guyanese populace are no fools, those who survived the 28 years of P.N.C iron fist rule, would never, never,never allow their offspring to endure what they went through.
Their offsprings lining up for VISAS
Former Member
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
If the Madman from 48 thinks the leaders of APNU are naïve to let him lead an anti-PPP alliance he better go get his cranium examined.
what kind of ppp antiman
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Seems the PPP folks on here more afraid of AFC vs APNU....by their comments
why is that?
AFC got balls, great big strong perfectly round with sperm ones.
Former Member
Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Seems the PPP folks on here more afraid of AFC vs APNU....by their comments
why is that?
AFC got balls, great big strong perfectly round with sperm ones.
bai you looking for trouble you know them ppp funny fella like to play with balls
Former Member
Elections 2015 ...
1. PPP/C vs combined party to be named of PNC + AFC.
2. PPP/C vs PNC and AFC.
In either case, PPP/C will emerge with more than 50 percent of the votes.
Former Member
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Elections 2015 ...
1. PPP/C vs combined party to be named of PNC + AFC.
2. PPP/C vs PNC and AFC.
In either case, PPP/C will emerge with more than 50 percent of the votes.
the guru in India tell the duck this,because guyanese is saying the ppp have to go
Former Member
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Leader or nothing! – Ramjattan
January 23, 2015 By GuyanaTimes
AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan
AFC/PNC/APNU coalition talks:
By Michael Younge
The Alliance For Change (AFC) on Thursday made it absolutely clear that it would abandon any proposal to coalesce with A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) if the party did not emerge from ongoing talks as the leader of the pre-electoral alliance.
AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan when questioned by this newspaper during the party’s weekly media encounter insisted that the alliance “must” be led by his party.
Ramjattan made this point again despite APNU Chairman David Granger strongly rejecting such a possibility. Granger has insisted that his coalition deserved to be at the core and helm of any alliance arrangement with the AFC because it commanded more political support when compared to the minority Opposition party.
At the 2011 General and Regional Elections, APNU received 139,678 votes (26 seats in the National Assembly); the AFC 35,333 (seven seats); and the governing People’s Progressive Party Civic 166,340 (32 seats).
“As I have publicly stated it [the pre-electoral alliance] must be led by the Alliance For Change,” the AFC reiterated on Thursday.
When asked whether the AFC saw its support dwindling at the upcoming elections because a large portion of its support base did not trust nor wanted to be associated with the People’s National Congress (PNC)/APNU style of politics, Ramjattan boldly responded in the negative.
A seemingly uncomfortable Ramjattan tried hard to explain that there would be no reduction of support because the AFC would lead the coalition and its own policies would lay the foundation for the work of the APNU/AFC Government after the next polls. “That is the conditionality, the AFC must lead it,” he said.
Trust?
Quizzed further, Ramjattan denied that his allegation that the ruling People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) had given $30 million bribes to three Opposition Members of Parliament (MPs) who were not from the AFC – and so had to be from APNU – would have any bearing on the ongoing talks. “It has no relevance,” he said, while denying that he had outrightly identified the MPs as those of APNU.
He did this when it was clear to all and sundry that there were only two Opposition parliamentary parties in the 65-seat Legislature.
Seeking to soften both the tone and impact that Ramjattan’s statement could possibly have on the health of the ongoing secret talks ahead of the May 11, 2015 elections, AFC General Secretary David Patterson quickly stated that the party would avoid speculating on the outcome of the negotiations.
Again downplaying Ramjattan’s hardliner position, Patterson said: “I have told them personally, that is my General Secretary counterpart, that I am the official spokesperson and my official word is what he should be hearing.”
Patterson also said that the level of trust between the two parties was “high” despite the fact that his party had forced APNU to sign an agreement of secrecy as a prerequisite to talks. Questioned whether any aspect of the agreement and proposals would be made public, the General Secretary said, “They will be, in time…due course.”
He had maintained that the party was sticking with the deadline it set for arriving at a basic consensus as to the way forward for the talks.
“We have already given ourselves till the end of this month (January),” he told the journalists gathered. He declined to divulge any further information on the secret talks which are being held despite growing public sentiment that the talks are farcical and being done genuinely.
Ramjattan is a nutcase. The PNC brings a lot more to the table than the AFC.
The AFC has no support base.
In the end, the AFC will hand over a Majority to the PPP. That 54 percent number might even go a bit higher.
The clock is ticking for the opposition and talks have hit a roadblock.
Agreed that he AFC has no support base. However, what progressive legislation has APNU brought to the table?
Former Member
Dr, Dr, Dr, Dr, Dr
willing to apologize...
Requesting meeting with
Moses, Ralph & Khemraj...
De Champion Claim
he is now seen as
the International Conman...
Promise to End Buggery
in Freedom House & OP...
Admit Moses lil Clip
already cost them 40% loss
Will Do anything fuh AFC....
Former Member
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Dr, Dr, Dr, Dr, Dr
willing to apologize...
Requesting meeting with
Moses, Ralph & Khemraj...
De Champion Claim
he is now seen as
the International Conman...
Promise to End Buggery
in Freedom House & OP...
Admit Moses lil Clip
already cost them 40% loss
Will Do anything fuh AFC....
Yaleel, was it you praising the AFC/PNC merger?
Former Member
Quote from the Berbician who love Kwame and Practice & Defend Buggerism -
Question - Yaleel, was it you praising the AFC/PNC merger?
Moses lil Clip
already cost the PPP 40% loss
Answer - Yes and still do.
Former Member
If Ramjattan continue with his power struggle against Granger, he will find himself loosing corn and husk. He has little time to explain to the voters his decision and position in the upcoming election.
Reminiscent of Forbes and Cheddie-leader or nothing.
Former Member
It was only time before the A.F.C and A.P.N.U ended up on a collision course. The A.F.C super ego-centrism is getting the better of them.
I thought a coalition is about power sharing, but it seems everyone wants the top position. Same with the PPP.
If we have another minority government, whether PPP/APNU/AFC, the same crap will continue in parliament, with little progress for Guyana.
Someone has to come up with a solution about this race thing, or we are all screwed.
Former Member
Originally Posted by Tola:
I thought a coalition is about power sharing, but it seems everyone wants the top position. Same with the PPP.
If we have another minority government, whether PPP/APNU/AFC, the same crap will continue in parliament, with little progress for Guyana.
Someone has to come up with a solution about this race thing, or we are all screwed.
Guyana's politics has always been raced based. This election will be no different.
A majority of Indos will flock to the PPP and a majority of Afros will flock to the PNC.
The real battle will be for the mixed and Amerindian votes. This will be a very exciting election.
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