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LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTIONS WILL CHANGE NOTHING

 

September 27, 2014, By Filed Under Features/Columnists, Peeping Tom, Source - Kaieteur News

 

Are we fooling ourselves into believing that local government elections will change things in Guyana? What will it change?


Local government in Guyana faces three main challenges. Having local government elections will not fundamentally address these challenges.


The first challenge is that the local government architecture in Guyana is too expansive. We are a country with less than a million people, yet we have more than a dozen NDS, ten Regional administrations, and six municipalities. We have neighborhood democratic councils responsible for a few thousand people, and then we have regional administrations. On top of this there are municipalities. The largest municipality is located in a town which for all intents and purposes is no more than two square miles and has less than 300,000 persons.  How amidst such a small population, can there be such an elaborate local government system?


Have we not learnt anything from the British? The village system which they established was superintended by village councils that did not work. These councils remained subservient and dependent on central government? We have had years of negotiations on local government reform. These negotiations have not fundamentally altered the architecture of local government. The system for example has not been revamped so as to grant greater devolution of powers.


Even with the new formula for allocating revenues to local government organs, local government bodies will remain dependent and subservient to central government. Local government elections will not change this dependent relationship because the relationship between central government and local government bodies remains one of master/servant.


Neither will local government polls create viable local government entities. One of the major challenges facing the local government system in Guyana is the overcoming historical legacies.  The village system in Guyana was created around sugar plantations. The main historical bugbear faced by villages was the high cost of drainage and irrigation. Under colonial Guyana, the village councils could never afford to carry the cost of drainage. There is no difference today.


NDCs are too small and their resource base is too weak to become economically viable entities. The municipalities also cannot be converted into public corporations as is the case in some Caribbean countries. Their population base and catchment is too small to allow any such corporation to be viable.


Viability is dependent not just on financial resources but equally about the quality of human resources. Local government organs will always end up having to compete with the private sector and the government to attract the best human resources in the country. There is a dearth of human resources in communities. It is a myth that the villages and municipalities are awash with available administrative and management skills.


They are not. In most cases, these local government organs end up scraping the bottom of the barrel in order to find people to carry out the management of their various local government bodies. Most of the highly skilled and qualified persons are either out of the country, working for government or within the private sector. Not much is left for the municipalities to tap into.


Local government elections will not throw up new talent. This is myth. The system will continue to be afflicted by lack of human resources.


Look at Georgetown. The markets ended up in a rundown state; the cemetery was neglected and allowed to turn into a jungle and the drains are all cluttered up. Garbage is now all over the place and there is widespread illegal squatting and vending. This is the legacy of the last local government elections.  Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.


The third main challenge is that local government elections will reproduce at another level the political confrontation and stagnation between the government and the main opposition. Local government elections will be a two-party race between the PNCR and the PPPC. Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.


Essentially therefore, what will happen is that local government elections will be a straight fight between the two main parties. Local government organs emerging out of any local government elections will therefore be a battleground between the two main parties. It will lead to the same old political paralysis and stagnation. It will perpetuate ethnic voting. In other words, it will perpetuate the same rotten political culture which so many people wish to escape.


APNU wants local government elections in order to avoid going to general and regional elections. The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held. The PPPC does not at this stage want either local government or general elections, because its financiers believe that local government elections are a waste of resources and because the party wants to have its full term.


Why do you the people want local government elections? What difference will it make to your lives and to your communities? Not much! That much I can tell you!

 

Source - http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....will-change-nothing/

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Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

LGE go enkurage moe tiefing like wah ah happen in GT. 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

Does LGE really make a difference? Did it during Forbes' time? Forbes did away with it. He did away with anything he thought was fair. 

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

Does LGE really make a difference? Did it during Forbes' time? Forbes did away with it. He did away with anything he thought was fair. 

suh, my observation is correct . . . hmmm?

 

c'mon, doan be shy

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

Does LGE really make a difference? Did it during Forbes' time? Forbes did away with it. He did away with anything he thought was fair. 

suh, my observation is correct . . . hmmm?

 

c'mon, doan be shy

Who creas about LGE? Not the people! I see a handful of paid protesters protesting aimlessly. What a concept!

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

Does LGE really make a difference? Did it during Forbes' time? Forbes did away with it. He did away with anything he thought was fair. 

Sometimes one has to sit back and wonder if there is something in the cuisine you folks partake of in common that stymies rational thought.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

Does LGE really make a difference? Did it during Forbes' time? Forbes did away with it. He did away with anything he thought was fair. 

Sometimes one has to sit back and wonder if there is something in the cuisine you folks partake of in common that stymies rational thought.

Food for your thought?

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

Does LGE really make a difference? Did it during Forbes' time? Forbes did away with it. He did away with anything he thought was fair. 

Sometimes one has to sit back and wonder if there is something in the cuisine you folks partake of in common that stymies rational thought.

Food for your thought?

I am perplexed so help me out....what does LGE in a dictatorship has to do with LGE in a democracy ( or pretenses to it) If it mattered not why the hell the preoccupations with IMCs...why not say to hell with it all? In any event, if we ignore this constitutional directive what stops us from ignoring others?  How about throwing it through the window completely!!!!!!

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

Does LGE really make a difference? Did it during Forbes' time? Forbes did away with it. He did away with anything he thought was fair. 

Sometimes one has to sit back and wonder if there is something in the cuisine you folks partake of in common that stymies rational thought.

Food for your thought?

I am perplexed so help me out....what does LGE in a dictatorship has to do with LGE in a democracy ( or pretenses to it) If it mattered not why the hell the preoccupations with IMCs...why not say to hell with it all? In any event, if we ignore this constitutional directive what stops us from ignoring others?  How about throwing it through the window completely!!!!!!

Burnham made it obsolete and Guyanese survived. Throw it out the window. It doesn't make any difference. Waste of taxpayers' money and time. It also encourages corruption as in GT.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

Does LGE really make a difference? Did it during Forbes' time? Forbes did away with it. He did away with anything he thought was fair. 

Sometimes one has to sit back and wonder if there is something in the cuisine you folks partake of in common that stymies rational thought.

Food for your thought?

I am perplexed so help me out....what does LGE in a dictatorship has to do with LGE in a democracy ( or pretenses to it) If it mattered not why the hell the preoccupations with IMCs...why not say to hell with it all? In any event, if we ignore this constitutional directive what stops us from ignoring others?  How about throwing it through the window completely!!!!!!

Burnham made it obsolete and Guyanese survived. Throw it out the window. It doesn't make any difference. Waste of taxpayers' money and time. It also encourages corruption as in GT.

Fortunately, you nor the PPP does not have the authority or can ever acquire the authority to do that. Given this reality, the demand for LGE is a matter of necessity.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 

Had it not been for government intervention, the capital would have been turned into shanty town.

 

Forget about the AFC! The system is such that the AFC will not win a single municipality or NDC. The AFC will not also hold any balance of power in any NDC or municipality.

 

The AFC wants general elections to avoid the total humiliation it will suffer if local government polls are held.

 

How come Guyana did not have local elections from 1964 to 199? and there was no protest for LGE? Guyana did not disappear off the face of the earth during this period. 

 

i read this as alyuh opening gambit to do away with local gov't

 

rite?

Does LGE really make a difference? Did it during Forbes' time? Forbes did away with it. He did away with anything he thought was fair. 

The PPP is of the same mindset of the old PNC. But the ppl have changed. Many have travelled to the west and longed for stuff American. Maybe they ready for local government to have a voice, to tell the central authorities what want they want.

To refuse LGE on your expressed grounds is not sound at all.

S

PNC gave Guyana filth since independence. The PNC cannot even run a cake shop and they want to run a cities.

 

Take a close look at where PNC supporters live and how they keep their neighbourhoods. Now compare that to the PPP rich and clean neighbourhoods.

 

Every time Indos squeeze their belly to save a penny, de PNC dogs are sporting up and wasting their money on beer and rum and parties and because Indos are now progressing they are burning with envy.

 

The PNC is good for nothing.

 

National Election should be Guyana's first priority.

 

The PNC dogs can keep straying and starving.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by yuji22:

PNC gave Guyana filth since independence. The PNC cannot even run a cake shop and they want to run a cities.

 

Take a close look at where PNC supporters live and how they keep their neighbourhoods. Now compare that to the PPP rich and clean neighbourhoods.

 

Every time Indos squeeze their belly to save a penny, de PNC dogs are sporting up and wasting their money on beer and rum and parties and because Indos are now progressing they are burning with envy.

 

The PNC is good for nothing.

 

National Election should be Guyana's first priority.

 

The PNC dogs can keep straying and starving.

what a dumb racist prick!

FM

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