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CHEDDI AND JANET JAGAN

Cheddi Jagan with wife Janet and their two children in 1957. Photograph: AP

Documents released by National Archives show prime minister Winston Churchill feared the colony would turn communist.

Secret documents declassified on Friday by MI5 reveal in detail how in 1953 the UK under prime minister Winston Churchill overthrew the elected government of British Guiana – now Guyana – because he feared its leftwing leader and his American wife would lead the British colony into the arms of the Soviet Union.

The documents reveal how British spies kept up intense scrutiny on Cheddi Jagan and his wife Janet, who together founded the People's Progressive party (PPP) to campaign for workers' rights and independence from British rule for the sugar-producing colony in northern South America.

The UK had agreed a new constitution in the early 1950s which allowed British Guiana's political parties to participate in national elections and form a government, but maintained power in the hands of the British-appointed governor.

Christopher Andrew, MI5's official historian, said the files provide new details of the coup and "further evidence that MI5 played a more important part in British decolonisation than is often realised".

The Jagans – a US-educated former dentist and his wife, born Janet Rosenberg in Chicago – seem an unlikely threat.

But the 39 folders of files released by the National Archives are crammed full of tapped phone conversations, intercepted letters and accounts of physical surveillance over more than a decade.

In 1951, the year after the Jagans founded their party, an MI5 agent based on the nearby island of Trinidad described them as "something new in British Guiana politics".

"Both are able and intelligent and the mere fact that Janet Jagan is white, young and not unattractive in appearance lends considerable interest to her activities and those of her husband," he said.

To British authorities, the Jagans were a headache. To the Americans, they were a potential communist threat on America's doorstep.

MI5 concluded that their party was "not receiving any financial support from any communist organisation outside the country".

Nonetheless, amid worsening strikes and unrest, Britain grew unhappy with the Jagans' "disruptive antics".

After the party won a huge majority in British Guiana's 1953 election, making Cheddi Jagan prime minister, Churchill decided to act.

"We ought surely to get American support in doing all that we can to break the communist teeth in British Guiana," he wrote to his colonial secretary.

In the end, Britain acted alone, mounting a military operation codenamed Operation Windsor. Churchill dispatched a warship, HMS Superb, and brought hundreds of troops by air and sea to secure key sites.

On 9 October, Britain suspended British Guiana's constitution, fired its legislators and arrested the Jagans.

The surprise military operation went according to plan. The Trinidad-based MI5 officer noted with quiet satisfaction that "it was obvious that the PPP leaders had no idea that the constitution would be suspended or that they might be arrested".

And the spy threw in a note of thanks for the women who helped the army to march on its stomach.

"I might add in parenthesis that catering arrangements for the airborne troops during their halt in Trinidad were carried out by Mrs Beadon, wife of the commissioner of police, Mrs Rahr, my wife and Joyce Huggins … and I understand that no less than 600 large sandwiches were cut by these ladies," he wrote.

An outraged Cheddi Jagan appealed by telegram to Britain's opposition Labour party for help. Leader Clement Attlee replied curtly: "Regret impossible to intervene."
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For the next three years, British Guiana was ruled under emergency powers by the British governor and appointed officials, and the Jagans were kept under house arrest and strict surveillance.

In the years that followed, MI5 softened somewhat toward Cheddi Jagan, acknowledging that he was an astute and popular politician – though the agent based in Trinidad strongly disliked Janet Jagan, whom he described as a committed communist "uncompromising in her hatreds".

By the 1960s, Britain's spies worried that the Jagans would turn to newly communist Cuba, possibly making their country a base for Latin American revolutionaries.

"If the Jagans remain in power after independence and if their activities and views remain unchanged, they will represent a threat to the stability both of British Guiana itself and of the neighbouring territories," the officer wrote.

Andrew said it was clear from previously released official documents that successive British governments "gave in to pressure from the White House to allow the CIA to use subterranean means to ensure that the first leader of independent Guyana in 1966 was not Cheddi Jagan".

He added in a podcast for the National Archives (begins 5m 38sec in): "In most British colonies, there was a relatively friendly transfer of power to independent governments. British Guiana was a notable exception."

The Jagans remained a major force in Guyanese politics and Cheddi Jagan became prime minister again in 1961, when the batch of MI5 files ends.

After the cold war ended, Cheddi Jagan served as president of Guyana from 1992 until his death in 1997. His wife succeeded him between 1997 and 1999. She died in 2009, aged 88.

http://www.theguardian.com/wor...-coup-british-guiana

 

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I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

FM
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

The Jagans was taking the Communist route,not accectable in the region so they shut him out and allowed Burnham to became a dictator.Capitalism was a satan to the Jagans and the PPP,it's ironic all their supporters live and enjoy the freedom in Capatalist countries no mass migration to Communist countries.

Django
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Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

Yes it will be declassified.  However, when that time comes most of the people on this BB would already be dead.  I think the ABC countries are already sorry for what they did.  No one expected the incompetence, scramble for power, and waste of resources that we are witnessing now.

Bibi Haniffa
Django posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

The Jagans was taking the Communist route,not accectable in the region so they shut him out and allowed Burnham to became a dictator.Capitalism was a satan to the Jagans and the PPP,it's ironic all their supporters live and enjoy the freedom in Capatalist countries no mass migration to Communist countries.

The communist countries were not English speaking so that was not an option.  If they were you would not be living in Connecticut today.  You might have been in Havana, Shanghai, or Moscow.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

Yes it will be declassified.  However, when that time comes most of the people on this BB would already be dead.  I think theABC countries are already sorry for what they did.  No one expected the incompetence, scramble for power, and waste of resources that we are witnessing now.

Why will they be sorry the bastion of capatalism America did not want another Cuba in its back yard or that matter Communism to spread in the region,

Django
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

The Jagans was taking the Communist route,not accectable in the region so they shut him out and allowed Burnham to became a dictator.Capitalism was a satan to the Jagans and the PPP,it's ironic all their supporters live and enjoy the freedom in Capatalist countries no mass migration to Communist countries.

The communist countries were not English speaking so that was not an option.  If they were you would not be living in Connecticut today.  You might have been in Havana, Shanghai, or Moscow.

Sorry never liked Communism.

Django
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Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

Yes it will be declassified.  However, when that time comes most of the people on this BB would already be dead.  I think theABC countries are already sorry for what they did.  No one expected the incompetence, scramble for power, and waste of resources that we are witnessing now.

Why will they be sorry the bastion of capatalism America did not want another Cuba in its back yard or that matter Communism to spread in the region,

I was referring to what Cobra said - the date is May 11th, 2015.  Not 1953. Read my sequence of sentences.

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

Yes it will be declassified.  However, when that time comes most of the people on this BB would already be dead.  I think theABC countries are already sorry for what they did.  No one expected the incompetence, scramble for power, and waste of resources that we are witnessing now.

Why will they be sorry the bastion of capatalism America did not want another Cuba in its back yard or that matter Communism to spread in the region,

I was referring to what Cobra said - the date is May 11th, 2015.  Not 1953. Read my sequence of sentences.

My bad.

By the way there is a lot of declassified info on this site.

Django
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

The Jagans was taking the Communist route,not accectable in the region so they shut him out and allowed Burnham to became a dictator.Capitalism was a satan to the Jagans and the PPP,it's ironic all their supporters live and enjoy the freedom in Capatalist countries no mass migration to Communist countries.

The communist countries were not English speaking so that was not an option.  If they were you would not be living in Connecticut today.  You might have been in Havana, Shanghai, or Moscow.

Sorry never liked Communism.

Two of those countries are amongst the wealthiest in the world.  The only reason why Cuba is poor is because of the economic embargo against them by a certain capitalist country.  The one whose president went there the other day to mend the evil.

Bibi Haniffa
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

Yes it will be declassified.  However, when that time comes most of the people on this BB would already be dead.  I think theABC countries are already sorry for what they did.  No one expected the incompetence, scramble for power, and waste of resources that we are witnessing now.

Why will they be sorry the bastion of capatalism America did not want another Cuba in its back yard or that matter Communism to spread in the region,

I was referring to what Cobra said - the date is May 11th, 2015.  Not 1953. Read my sequence of sentences.

My bad.

By the way there is a lot of declassified info on this site.

No prob. Understood.  I had the opportunity to read some of the classified info.  My thesis advisor in college was in the meeting between Kennedy and Cheddi at the White House.  His name is Dr. Ronald Schneider.   At that time he was a young Princeton graduate interning for Kennedy.

Bibi Haniffa

Jagdeo Funny Fellas need to stop scratching in public,

because....

Releasing Classified info on what happen in 1950

cannot fix the problems of today.

 

What we must release immediately

is the Details of the Jagdeo/Corbin Accord

which moved all the Black House of Israel thugs

and All De Ballot Box Riggers and Killers......

into Freedom House and Office of the President.

 

Instead of Scratching

BB must Stop and tell us....

How PPP became a Minority party in Guyana

after the Jagdeo/Corbin Accord....

 

BJ & BB Scratching since PPP became a Minority

FM
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

The Jagans was taking the Communist route,not accectable in the region so they shut him out and allowed Burnham to became a dictator.Capitalism was a satan to the Jagans and the PPP,it's ironic all their supporters live and enjoy the freedom in Capatalist countries no mass migration to Communist countries.

The communist countries were not English speaking so that was not an option.  If they were you would not be living in Connecticut today.  You might have been in Havana, Shanghai, or Moscow.

Sorry never liked Communism.

You're living under communist dictator and you don't know it. Eeveryday it's getting closer to that reality. 

FM

De Jagdeo Corbin Accord

CH&PA unaware how

a huge plot of Providence lands (100 Acres) 

end up in Lumumba’s hands

 

In 2011,

a huge plot of housing land at Providence, East Bank Demerara,

was allocated to House of Israel Thug Odinga Lumumba....

who was appointed

a Parliamentarian of the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C),

and an Advisor to the President by Jagdeo.


However, it appears that the transaction was never seen by the Central Housing and Planning Authority (CH&PA).

Odinga Lumumba

Odinga Lumumba House of Israel Thug


 It is unclear who authorized it and which entity handled the transaction and whether any monies were paid.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....p-in-lumumbas-hands/

 

FM
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Cobra posted:

Jalil, you're derailing an informative thread as usual. Be a considerate bastard for once in you life and start a new thread with your irritating bullshit. Thank you!

Guyanese Voters do not care what happen in 1950... or what happen between Burnham and Jagan.....

 

Everyone want to know how and why PPP lose their Majority in Guyana.

 

And Declassify the Jagdeo/Corbin Accord.... tell us what happen between Jagdeo and Corbin.

FM

I am surprised that Jagan was not executed for treason. He got off lightly, allowing the PPP to end up in bed with communist China. Now the Chinese are busy buying up Guyana and installing a spy network base. There are now more Chinese spies in Guyana than in any other country in the Caribbean. 

Mr.T
Mitwah posted:
Vish M posted:

Alim cannot help himself.

He is always in the gutter of politics and will remain there

Tell us about the Jagdeo & Corbin accord before he cut off your pony tail.

And here comes the other low IQ gutter smith!!!!!!

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:
Vish M posted:

Alim cannot help himself.

He is always in the gutter of politics and will remain there

Tell us about the Jagdeo & Corbin accord before he cut off your pony tail.

And here comes the other low IQ gutter smith!!!!!!

Listen queer, don't run to admin crying when I respond to your personal attacks. I don't care if Amral bans me. Cease and desist!

Mitwah
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

Yes it will be declassified.  However, when that time comes most of the people on this BB would already be dead.  I think the ABC countries are already sorry for what they did.  No one expected the incompetence, scramble for power, and waste of resources that we are witnessing now.

HANIFFA, the governments of the ABC countries cares about Guyana's fortunes following their actions only in so far as it affects them, and not how their actions affect Guyana. I would not go giving these governments - then, today and the years in between - credit for being contrite and caring about the fortunes of Guyana.

What we need to understand is Cuba in 1959 and the missile crisis up to the height of the Cold War in the 70s and 80s were days that the US feared Communism and Russia like they fear terrorism today. They will do whatever it takes. There were children doing exercises in the 60s and 70s hiding under their desks when the alarm goes on - like fire drills. It was embedded in their DNA - no Communism or socialist governments allied to the USSR in those days, period. So the ABC governments overthrowing legitimately elected governments in the Western Hemisphere (the Monroe Doctrine) is par for the course. See what happened in Latin and Central America in the 60sa nd 70s.

You have to ask that after using a Marxist model to explain to the masses the colonial experience and the need for us to govern ourselves and take our places among the civilized nations of the earth, why could the PPP not understand the political realities of the environment of the Western Hemisphere, capital and commodities markets, the Eastern European lack of understanding or empathy (other than their interests in fighting America with us as their proxies) for the former colonies? There was a 2rd way - South-south cooperation and the non-Aligned movement - both of which succumbed to the realities of corruption among these leaders and how socially disconnected these countries were.

Look at the paths of Trinidad and Barbados. Had we had center-left governments (Cheddi's Kaldor budget was good, but his political affiliations were what got Guyana in trouble), think of where Guyana would have been today - with the proper civic institutions and bureaucracy (no bribes and waiting for the government to dish out birth certificates, etc.), no Burnhamism-cum-Kim-Il-Jung style cult of the Leader (follow de leada, follow de leada).

so let's keep some perspective here with any revelations about what happened to the PPP government in the late 50s and early 60s.

Kari
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

First off, guyana was British not Jagans. It was a colony of the crown. It had a right to defend its territory as it see fit and most of all from a naive deluded young man taking us into the darkside of communism.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

Yes it will be declassified.  However, when that time comes most of the people on this BB would already be dead.  I think the ABC countries are already sorry for what they did.  No one expected the incompetence, scramble for power, and waste of resources that we are witnessing now.

You are naive. Sorry would mean morality is in the decision. Countries have interests and you have to rule on interest or you get screwed. Again, Guyana was British by right. If it really took a referendum to annex it they would have won and we would have been better and not have the history we had.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Cobra posted:

I have said that in the future the ABC will declassified sealed files about their involvements to remove a democratically elected government and installed a dictator regime in Guyana on May 11, 2015. The American did the same to Argentina that caused countless lost of lives to that country.

The Jagans was taking the Communist route,not accectable in the region so they shut him out and allowed Burnham to became a dictator.Capitalism was a satan to the Jagans and the PPP,it's ironic all their supporters live and enjoy the freedom in Capatalist countries no mass migration to Communist countries.

The communist countries were not English speaking so that was not an option.  If they were you would not be living in Connecticut today.  You might have been in Havana, Shanghai, or Moscow.

You are dumb as a skunk. Communist as an ideology was the easy route of  colonial revolutionaries. Colonial thinkers en mass found it accessible because of its utopian promise. Language was not its means of spread. That is silly.

The communist manifesto  was an affirmation of faith in Marxist dialectal materialism as a social revolutionary movement and Marxist economics as the methodology to empowering the people.  It migrated across the spectrum of languages so easily because it seemed sound to oppressed people  and it was especially easy slop for the uneducated peasantry. Every faux revolutionary gravitated to it like flies to honey.

FM
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Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:
Vish M posted:

Alim cannot help himself.

He is always in the gutter of politics and will remain there

Tell us about the Jagdeo & Corbin accord before he cut off your pony tail.

And here comes the other low IQ gutter smith!!!!!!

Mitwah.....

"BB and Bishnu and Dem Funny Fellas" will not tell us anything about the "Jagdeo & Corbin Accord" .......which made the PPP a minority. 

"BB and Bishnu and Dem Funny Fellas" .....Love, approve and will defend ..... "Jagdeo and the Black House of Israel Thugs and Killers"........ because this is part of the  "Jagdeo & Corbin Accord"

"BB and Bishnu and Dem Funny Fellas" .....Love, approve and will defend ..... "Jagdeo and the Ole PNC Ballot Box Riggers & Thieves" ........ because this is part of the  "Jagdeo & Corbin Accord"

"BB and Bishnu and Dem Funny Fellas" will not tell us the truth.... and the House of Israel Thugs and Ballot Box Riggers are no longer a Liability to the PNC...... because  "Jagdeo & Corbin Accord" .......clean up the PNC so Granger can become President. 

"BB and Bishnu and Dem Funny Fellas" cannot tell us anything bad about ....... Lamumba, Kwame or Ed Ahmad..... because their Job is to defend Jagdeo ...... even the wrong things he do. 

 

"BB and Bishnu and Dem Funny Fellas"

.... cannot admit.... 

the Jagdeo Corbin Accord

achieved it's two Goals   ........ 

(1) Make PPP a minority .... and

(2) Make Granger the President.

 

Mits .....

 "BB and Bishnu and Dem Funny Fellas".....

Can now tell Admin

who is the low IQ gutter smith!!!!!!

 

 

"BB and Bishnu and Dem Funny Fellas".....

Danyael is right.....

"You are dumb as a skunk". 

FM
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