You beat me to it Riff.....I was going to pay tribute to Michelle Obama with a separate thread; but thanks for doing it.

If you understand American history and the role that slavery played, and to this day the vestiges of that dark chapter of American history, you cannot help but see how Michelle was fashioned with the grace that comes from that lineage. She was all humility in exposing the character of Donald Trump with deftness using the parenting of two beautiful daughters and providing safety from all that was thrown at Barack Obama at the Republicans through their teenage years.

You know the measure of the first Lady and her husband when even ardent Republicans who bash the President politically fawn admiration for their wholesomeness.

Michelle is probably more of an antidote to Trump, given he Birther nonsense, the impugning of Obama's academic qaulification, his religion, his very American-ness. This is a woman who is a Princeton and Harvard law graduate from Chicago's dangerous south side who was earning over $200,000 annually at the Sidley Austin law firm. Trump cannot even come close to her smarts and intellect.

She is a poised woman, full of grace, charming, and is wonderful with children. She will be missed in the White house.

The PNC can learn from our GREAT First Lady.  Riff, dont forget or overlook Mr Corey Booker speech, it was DYNAMITE!!!

Nehru posted:

The PNC can learn from our GREAT First Lady.  Riff, dont forget or overlook Mr Corey Booker speech, it was DYNAMITE!!!

Yes, it was!

Nehru posted:

The PNC can learn from our GREAT First Lady.  Riff, dont forget or overlook Mr Corey Booker speech, it was DYNAMITE!!!

Why not the PPP?

Chief posted:

Nehru posted:

The PNC can learn from our GREAT First Lady.  Riff, dont forget or overlook Mr Corey Booker speech, it was DYNAMITE!!!

Why not the PPP?

Stupid question. One is a dark night and one is a sunshine day.

Michelle Obama is a classy and well-accomplished lady. However, she is not running for President, crooked Hillary is!

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Michelle Obama is a classy and well-accomplished lady. However, she is not running for President, crooked Hillary is!

Hey Gal, have respect for the Grandma.

God knows I want to support my women folk.  But I can't go against my conscience.  I have to support the lesser of the two evils.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

God knows I want to support my women folk.  But I can't go against my conscience.  I have to support the lesser of the two evils.

You support  a man who buys his supplies from Mexico and China because he thinks that Americans demand too much pay.

But then hypocritically lies that its evil Mexicans or Chinese, and not money grubbing Americans like him who are to blame for outsourcing.

You seem to be quite confused. Omarosa is selling her soul, but I suspect that she ensured that she became a millionaire as a result.

Hey, don't forget Michelle Obama's famous speech in 2008 when she told Hillary, "if you can't run your own house, then you can't run the White House."

RiffRaff posted:

What a class speech!

You think someone might copy in a few years to come

Bibi Haniffa posted:

God knows I want to support my women folk.  But I can't go against my conscience.  I have to support the lesser of the two evils.

I have to support the lesser of the two evils.

alena06 posted:

RiffRaff posted:

What a class speech!

You think someone might copy in a few years to come

Next time Melania opens her mouth.  Just now she will sing praises to her husband, boasting that his father was an African.

That Michelle Obama is an educated attractive tall woman. That Obama is a lucky man

Prashad posted:

That Michelle Obama is an educated attractive tall woman. That Obama is a lucky man

The woman has brains and class. After her emotional speech, I said "wow".

Prashad posted:

That Michelle Obama is an educated attractive tall woman. That Obama is a lucky man

She terrifies him as much as your wife scares you.  I assume that your wife is also tall, attractive and educated.

Michelle is certainly cut from a different cloth than CaribJ and others who bask in her shadow and hang on to her coattails to compensate for their own inequities.  

Drugb posted:

Michelle is certainly cut from a different cloth than CaribJ and others who bask in her shadow and hang on to her coattails to compensate for their own inequities.  

Michelle would look at me and want to know why does a highly educated man like me waste time with you.

I will tell her that talking to you is part of giving back to poor souls who need some attention.  She will nod and then say "well better you than me".

Of course if you ever do meet her you will die with embarrassment if she found out about your endless squeals that blacks are criminally violent welfare dependent losers. Michelle will give you her glare, and walk off shaking her head.

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

Michelle is certainly cut from a different cloth than CaribJ and others who bask in her shadow and hang on to her coattails to compensate for their own inequities.  

Michelle would look at me and want to know why does a highly educated man like me waste time with you.

I will tell her that talking to you is part of giving back to poor souls who need some attention.  She will nod and then say "well better you than me".

Of course if you ever do meet her you will die with embarrassment if she found out about your endless squeals that blacks are criminally violent welfare dependent losers. Michelle will give you her glare, and walk off shaking her head.

NICE SHOT BY DRUGGIE AND CARIB fielded well.

Entertaining over!

Chief posted:

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

Michelle is certainly cut from a different cloth than CaribJ and others who bask in her shadow and hang on to her coattails to compensate for their own inequities.  

Michelle would look at me and want to know why does a highly educated man like me waste time with you.

I will tell her that talking to you is part of giving back to poor souls who need some attention.  She will nod and then say "well better you than me".

Of course if you ever do meet her you will die with embarrassment if she found out about your endless squeals that blacks are criminally violent welfare dependent losers. Michelle will give you her glare, and walk off shaking her head.

NICE SHOT BY DRUGGIE AND CARIB fielded well.

Entertaining over!

 

I happen to know some of her Harvard Law School buddies so I know how she will treat poor druggie.

I can only imagine poor druggie starting to educate Michelle about what blacks should do. 

Even I will have to intervene to protect poor druggie from the mauling that he would get.  As they say one ought to protect children and fools.

caribny posted:

Chief posted:

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

Michelle is certainly cut from a different cloth than CaribJ and others who bask in her shadow and hang on to her coattails to compensate for their own inequities.  

Michelle would look at me and want to know why does a highly educated man like me waste time with you.

I will tell her that talking to you is part of giving back to poor souls who need some attention.  She will nod and then say "well better you than me".

Of course if you ever do meet her you will die with embarrassment if she found out about your endless squeals that blacks are criminally violent welfare dependent losers. Michelle will give you her glare, and walk off shaking her head.

NICE SHOT BY DRUGGIE AND CARIB fielded well.

Entertaining over!

 

I happen to know some of her Harvard Law School buddies so I know how she will treat poor druggie.

I can only imagine poor druggie starting to educate Michelle about what blacks should do. 

Even I will have to intervene to protect poor druggie from the mauling that he would get.  As they say one ought to protect children and fools.

Don't get too excited, Druggie hit  that ball well.

Like it or not based on your writings here on GNI, you and the Obama's are definitely not of the same cloth.

For starters you are seeing everything black and non black, President Obama won and be where he is because of his inclusiveness. 

Chief posted:

 

For starters you are seeing everything black and non black, President Obama won and be where he is because of his inclusiveness. 

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And to think that an idiot like Druggie would impress Michelle is a sick joke.

Now resume your defense of the Indo KKK here, because when I refer to race it is to demolish them.  Apparently you object to that.

Let druggie and the rest of those idiots carry their racist rants to people like Michelle and you will find that my treatment of them is very very kind.

I know these people intimately. Apparently you don't.  They don't take very well to inferior types like Druggie demeaning blacks.

President Obama will have a tough time following his wife's speech which is one for the ages.

Bill Clinton will do his thing tonight. The Bernie folks have had their moment and now the Convention pivots towards Hillary. Sarah Silverman, like a Jewish mother told the "Bernie or bust" 'folks that they're ridiculous, and Michelle swung everyone towards Hillary.

Kari posted:

Michelle is probably more of an antidote to Trump, given he Birther nonsense, the impugning of Obama's academic qaulification, his religion, his very American-ness. This is a woman who is a Princeton and Harvard law graduate from Chicago's dangerous south side who was earning over $200,000 annually at the Sidley Austin law firm. Trump cannot even come close to her smarts and intellect.

She is a poised woman, full of grace, charming, and is wonderful with children. She will be missed in the White house.

She made her money on her own unlike the loser Trump who was born into it and conned (still does) his way.

Kari posted:

President Obama will have a tough time following his wife's speech which is one for the ages.

Bill Clinton will do his thing tonight. The Bernie folks have had their moment and now the Convention pivots towards Hillary. Sarah Silverman, like a Jewish mother told the "Bernie or bust" 'folks that they're ridiculous, and Michelle swung everyone towards Hillary.

Trump says the system is broken and uneducated white folks flock to him.  

Bernie says the system is broken and educated white folks flock to him.

Hillary says the system is perfect and wall street flock to her.

Who you think will win come November?

Abu Jihad posted:

Kari posted:

President Obama will have a tough time following his wife's speech which is one for the ages.

Bill Clinton will do his thing tonight. The Bernie folks have had their moment and now the Convention pivots towards Hillary. Sarah Silverman, like a Jewish mother told the "Bernie or bust" 'folks that they're ridiculous, and Michelle swung everyone towards Hillary.

Trump says the system is broken and uneducated white folks flock to him.  

Bernie says the system is broken and educated white folks flock to him.

Hillary says the system is perfect and wall street flock to her.

Who you think will win come November?

 

Sounds like a professional propagandist. A good audition for Pravda or Fox News - bereft of truth and fairness or relevance. The only thing broken in American politics is a partisan Congress that keeps holding up a Presidential nominee for the last Supreme Court Justice and States' Governors and Legislators with their 19th century ideas of human rights about women, gender, and human rights fro minorities. Try that for size AbuGraib

Abu should roll up his sleeves an take yo rass out back.

Oi man, you aint workin on a post yet on Keyes how beautiful she is? U gotta know who I'm talkin bout. Dah girl sweet like a sugar plum...sweetness and Sugacain,mmmmm

Abu Jihad posted:

Trump says the system is broken and uneducated white folks flock to him.  

Bernie says the system is broken and educated white folks flock to him.

Hillary says the system is perfect and wall street flock to her.

Who you think will win come November?

Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Abu Jihad posted:

Kari posted:

President Obama will have a tough time following his wife's speech which is one for the ages.

Bill Clinton will do his thing tonight. The Bernie folks have had their moment and now the Convention pivots towards Hillary. Sarah Silverman, like a Jewish mother told the "Bernie or bust" 'folks that they're ridiculous, and Michelle swung everyone towards Hillary.

Trump says the system is broken and uneducated white folks flock to him.  

Bernie says the system is broken and educated white folks flock to him.

Hillary says the system is perfect and wall street flock to her.

Who you think will win come November?

 

By the time the uneducated white folks hear that Trump thinks that they get paid too much, which is why he buys his stuff from Mexico and China, they will arrange a "welcome" for him, and throw him Walmart bags.

Trump is running a scam and the con game will soon be over. Hillary is in roaring form, and the Dems are united. A few Bernie Bros will jump and scream.  Some one better tell them that Herr Trump will treat them just as his heroes, Putin, Saddam and Gaddafi treats his dissidents. He has expressed his deep admiration for those people.

Kari posted:

. The only thing broken in American politics

Lots is broken in US politics. The emergence of Trump and the fact that a clown like him will get at least 47% of the votes indicates that.

HOWEVER Herr Trump will break it even more, just as he destroyed Atlantic City.

CARIBNY, like Guyana, where if you fix the politics the economy, the civility, the education, etc. will follow, in the US it's the Congress and GOP Governors. It's that simple.

What's broken? Certainly not innovation. Not financing for startups and expansion of manufacturing in tech and bio-med and communications and specialized machines, etc. Not deficits and debts. Not medicare and social Security. Not terrorism. Not incarceration and gang killings. These things are there yes, but they are symptoms of what's broken - Government.

Look at legislation to reduce unfair incarceration, guns in the wrong hands, reverse deficits and lower debt. All these things happened in the past - look at Bill Clinton's 90s. The biggest challenge, and this is not a broken thing is wealth and income inequality. This again is not what's broken. what's broken is the approach to it and that's the Congress and Governors.

You have to separate root causes from the symptoms when you do an analysis. Yes, to the general public lots of things are broken. But that's politics. That's the mastery of messaging. You got tow of the best in bill and Barack at this convention. And of course you had the Michelle moment.

If some one told me 12 months ago that an embarrassing lunatic like Trump would be a serious contender for president I would have laughed. 

Nate Silver is now giving him a 40% chance (pre convention so doesn't factor in the post convention bounce), and he is within the margin of error in quite a few swing states.  I don't think that Nate is a GOP operative.

Nate made the correct call in both the 2008 and 2012 elections.

The fact that Trump is doing as well as he is doing shows that the economic and political environments are broken.  We are like the UK. Brexit was  a shock.  Hopefully we don't get our November nightmare.

The fact that Bernie and Trump have done as well as they have done shows that something is WRONG.  Maybe its less visible in NYC, with its dynamic economy, but just go a few miles upstate and its a whole different world.

We can argue about when it went wrong. Reagan looks definitely guilty and George W Bush made it worse.   But something is wrong as too many regions are being left behind.

You living in NYC saying that all is well is as misguided as some one in London or Oxford saying that nothing was wrong with the UK. That was before the Brexit shock.  The Uk ought to be a lesson about what angry people might do..

Note that Michael Moore has said that Trump will win.  Now I happen to disagree but it goes to show that it isn't just the Rush and FOX TV sorts who think this.

Kari posted:

 

What's broken? Certainly not innovation. Not financing for startups and expansion of manufacturing in tech and bio-med and communications and specialized machines, etc. .

And only 20-30% of the population is part of this economy. And in fact with increased robotics, even more might be pushed to become baristas or Walmart workers.

On shoring of manufacturing is based on increased automation, so the higher labor costs in the USA no longer is a disadvantage.  So if some one who has the cognitive/technical skills to operate within this world will do fine, but any one who has had to deal with your typical customer service rep knows that whole populations exist outside of this world.

What is good about Hillary is at least she understand this and plans to address this problem.  Hopefully a sharp Trump destruction means that the GOP loses the Senate and Ryan becomes chastened at this rout so cooperates.

But please don't claim that all is well, just because it isn't the dire and hopeless world that Herr Trump is screaming it to be.  Yes the best days were in the late 90s, and NOT the 50s as racists will claim it to be.

Nate Silver has upped the percentage of Trump winning - he's within 8 points of Hillary. Michael Moore was trying to get the base to not be complacent and turn out in record numbers to vote.

We are yet to see Hillary's convention bounce, the entry of Obama in the campaign and the debates., let alone the superPacs swiftboating. Lots of action yet to come. Hillary can only go up. Trump may have peaked. We knopw the demographics he'll win, and you're rtight that Hillary has to chip away at it while getting hers to come out and vote (and register them).

cain posted:

Abu should roll up his sleeves an take yo rass out back.

Oi man, you aint workin on a post yet on Keyes how beautiful she is? U gotta know who I'm talkin bout. Dah girl sweet like a sugar plum...sweetness and Sugacain,mmmmm

na tek worries, when arange man win, he will run up here to hide, and we will double the price we change for the basement.

I was watching Bill speak and figured he will finish by 4 am so I fell asleep and miss the Miss Keyes.

Miss Keyes arrite, but I admired Baltimore's mayor Stephanie Rawlings....

Kari posted:

Nate Silver has upped the percentage of Trump winning -

Nate is showing post convention bounce with Trump winning. That is why I looked at his predictions prior to the convention, which showed the gap closing. That email situation hurt Hillary among the many who don't trust her.

Michael Moore is telling folks like you that a Hillary victory isn't assured and that the Dems will have to work hard. A big challenge will be that the get out to vote effort, usually staffed by enthusiastic young folk, will be hampered as they are still "feeling the Bern".  Most will vote Hillary, but whether they will volunteer is an open question.

http://thegrio.com/2016/07/27/...bout-michelle-obama/

That is what happens to racists.

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

Michelle is certainly cut from a different cloth than CaribJ and others who bask in her shadow and hang on to her coattails to compensate for their own inequities.  

Michelle would look at me and want to know why does a highly educated man like me waste time with you.

I will tell her that talking to you is part of giving back to poor souls who need some attention.  She will nod and then say "well better you than me".

Of course if you ever do meet her you will die with embarrassment if she found out about your endless squeals that blacks are criminally violent welfare dependent losers. Michelle will give you her glare, and walk off shaking her head.

Your claim to fame is racist attacks against Indians but the Obama's' had to be inclusive to win elections. Based on your writings, they would not have you on their campaign. My rhetoric is based on observations, not opinion. The statistics are there to back up what I write. You on the other hand reference hear say and perception.