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Increased govt allowances "a fat lie"; govt threatens to deduct uncleared allowances to former ministers

  • Thursday, 06 August 2015 11:32

Finance Minister Winston Jordan

Finance Minister Winston Jordan

Finance Minister Winston Jordan has categorically denied claims by a pro-opposition newspaper that government intends to approve hefty travel allowances and he warned that former government ministers  who have not cleared theirs would have them deducted from their salaries or pensions.

 

The former government themselves could come in for some inconvenience since according to Jordan a significant number of them still have outstanding travel advances not cleared with the treasury.

 

He said too that no present minister has ever been given a contingency, but under the former government “multiple” contingencies were given to ministers.

To the outstanding advances, Jordan said that Attorney General Basil Williams has written to former ministers to clear their “long” outstanding advances, but the request is not forthcoming. He noted that government will make legitimate moves to recover the advances if they are not done willingly. This includes tapping into their salaries or pensions or other legal means. 

 

The claims published in the People's Progressive Party (PPP)-aligned Guyana Times newspaper that the government intends to increase travel benefits by some 100 percent and over,

 

came days after the same newspaper had alleged that government wanted to also give themselves 100 percent and over wage increases.


The government had confirmed the increases, but denied the figures alleged by the newspaper. They also announced that despite it being important to update ministers’ pay, they would not be doing it this year.

 


Today the newspaper reported that government is  said “to be favourably considering increasing the (travel) per diem from US$25 per day to about US$500 per day,” as “out-of-pocket allowance.”

 

 

 

They said the new government is considering raising hotel accommodation allowance to approximately US$200 per day, while the People’s Progressive Party (PPP) comfortably accepted their US$150.

Among other claims, the newspaper said government is thinking of putting in place a US$3000 “contingency allowance” for Government Ministers and Advisers.
However, when clarity on this matter was sought from Minister Jordan, he delayed with a hearty laugh, before stating that, “it is a big, fat lie.” He dismissed the entire article before declaring that, “none of it is true.”
The Minister, who remained quite relaxed despite the paper’s almost insulting revelations, said that it is all part of the tactic. “Haven’t you people seen it yet? It is one thing to the next. It is the kind of false information they (PPP) want to send to their supporters,” he claimed.
Minister Jordan said that there has never been any discussion on raising vacation allowances and their certainly has not been any consideration for the matter. Jordan said after he called the newspaper this morning, he could not get a meaningful answer for the “totally fabricated” story. He said he received excuses such as the editor is not in among others.
Jordan said that in speaking to the person who answered the phone, he explained to the newspaper in their “mischievous” articles are engaging in “filthy journalism.”

 

Jordan said it is probably the second or third time he has called the paper about these articles and he does not expect a retraction since he did not get it in other cases. He said the lie about the 62 luxury vehicles, among others are still being peddled. “This is the classic PPP way of doing things,” he said calmly.

 

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Minister Jordon say....

Claims of 100%

Pay Increase for Ministers...

Made by Racist

Ravi Dev, CaribJ & Guyana Times...

are "All Fat Lies"

 

Finance Minister Winston Jordan

"Finance Minister Winston Jordan...

 has nothing to do..... with those Racist"

 

CaribJ ....is a...

From Monkey Mountain

FM
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-Originally Posted by Jalil:

Minister Jordon say....

Claims of 100%

Pay Increase for Ministers...

Made by Racist

Ravi Dev, CaribJ & Guyana Times...

are "All Fat Lies"

 

Finance Minister Winston Jordan

"Finance Minister Winston Jordan...

 has nothing to do..... with those Racist"

 

CaribJ ....is a...

From Monkey Mountain

Government in damage control mode after getting caught or are they trying to confuse the nation?

FM

 

Government in damage control mode after getting caught or are they trying to confuse the nation?

Caught by who?......

Ravi Dev & CaribJ?

FM
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Originally Posted by Jalil:

Increased govt allowances "a fat lie"; govt threatens to deduct uncleared allowances to former ministers

  • Thursday, 06 August 2015 11:32

Finance Minister Winston Jordan

Finance Minister Winston Jordan

Finance Minister Winston Jordan has categorically denied claims by a pro-opposition newspaper that government intends to approve hefty travel allowances and he warned that former government ministers  who have not cleared theirs would have them deducted from their salaries or pensions.

 

The former government themselves could come in for some inconvenience since according to Jordan a significant number of them still have outstanding travel advances not cleared with the treasury.

 

He said too that no present minister has ever been given a contingency, but under the former government “multiple” contingencies were given to ministers.

To the outstanding advances, Jordan said that Attorney General Basil Williams has written to former ministers to clear their “long” outstanding advances, but the request is not forthcoming. He noted that government will make legitimate moves to recover the advances if they are not done willingly. This includes tapping into their salaries or pensions or other legal means. 

 

The claims published in the People's Progressive Party (PPP)-aligned Guyana Times newspaper that the government intends to increase travel benefits by some 100 percent and over,

 

came days after the same newspaper had alleged that government wanted to also give themselves 100 percent and over wage increases.


The government had confirmed the increases, but denied the figures alleged by the newspaper. They also announced that despite it being important to update ministers’ pay, they would not be doing it this year.

 


Today the newspaper reported that government is  said “to be favourably considering increasing the (travel) per diem from US$25 per day to about US$500 per day,” as “out-of-pocket allowance.”

 

 

 

They said the new government is considering raising hotel accommodation allowance to approximately US$200 per day, while the People’s Progressive Party (PPP) comfortably accepted their US$150.

Among other claims, the newspaper said government is thinking of putting in place a US$3000 “contingency allowance” for Government Ministers and Advisers.
However, when clarity on this matter was sought from Minister Jordan, he delayed with a hearty laugh, before stating that, “it is a big, fat lie.” He dismissed the entire article before declaring that, “none of it is true.”
The Minister, who remained quite relaxed despite the paper’s almost insulting revelations, said that it is all part of the tactic. “Haven’t you people seen it yet? It is one thing to the next. It is the kind of false information they (PPP) want to send to their supporters,” he claimed.
Minister Jordan said that there has never been any discussion on raising vacation allowances and their certainly has not been any consideration for the matter. Jordan said after he called the newspaper this morning, he could not get a meaningful answer for the “totally fabricated” story. He said he received excuses such as the editor is not in among others.
Jordan said that in speaking to the person who answered the phone, he explained to the newspaper in their “mischievous” articles are engaging in “filthy journalism.”

 

Jordan said it is probably the second or third time he has called the paper about these articles and he does not expect a retraction since he did not get it in other cases. He said the lie about the 62 luxury vehicles, among others are still being peddled. “This is the classic PPP way of doing things,” he said calmly.

 

THIS IS AN IDIOTIC POST MADE BY A KNUCKLEHEAD, ITS MISLEADING. JORDAN IS NOT MAKING REFERENCES TO THE NAME YOU MENTION IN THE HEADLINE. YOU CONFUSING PEOPLE.

V

Jordan needs to communicate better.  If some one shows data that is meant to mis lead, then the response is to counter that with corrected information.

 

Jordan responded, that "we have been discussing this issue". Granger said that he was aware of it.

 

Instead of being vague, they should bave made their oint.

 

The reality is that APNU/AFC thought that they could get away with this, and discovered that even their own support base was not in favor.  So they have now withdrawn the increase.

 

These people need to exit from the euphoria of the honeymoon period. It is OVER.  They will be judged harshly, even by their own support base, if they engage in the same arrogance that people saw under the PPP regime.

 

Already GT Mosquito (NOT a PPP biased media outlet) is becoming skeptical.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:

Jordan needs to communicate better.  If some one shows data that is meant to mis lead, then the response is to counter that with corrected information.

 

Jordan responded, that "we have been discussing this issue". Granger said that he was aware of it.

 

Instead of being vague, they should bave made their oint.

 

The reality is that APNU/AFC thought that they could get away with this, and discovered that even their own support base was not in favor.  So they have now withdrawn the increase.

 

These people need to exit from the euphoria of the honeymoon period. It is OVER.  They will be judged harshly, even by their own support base, if they engage in the same arrogance that people saw under the PPP regime.

 

Already GT Mosquito (NOT a PPP biased media outlet) is becoming skeptical.

CARIB, this is probably the most non-biased comment I have seen coming from you yet on this site. There is hope for you yet.

 

I do agree with what you said here, but I believe this was a serious blunder on the part of the coalition. I think too that the buzz was that the PPP was going to reject the increade and the coalition was in preemptive mode.

V
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
 

CARIB, this is probably the most non-biased comment I have seen coming from you yet on this site. There is hope for you yet.

 

I do agree with what you said here, but I believe this was a serious blunder on the part of the coalition. I think too that the buzz was that the PPP was going to reject the increade and the coalition was in preemptive mode.


You have in your head that any Afro Guyanese who is vofcal about Indian racism (even as he admits the existence of African racism) is biased.

 

I have been sharply critical of the PNC, and more recently of APNU.  When Burnhamists still existed on this site, they accused me of crawling up to "collie", because I refused to embrace their vision of Burnham as a god, and because I insisted that the Burnham regime was racist, and simultaneously destructive to blacks by fostering a culture of dependency.

 

Now when I discuss Indian racism see it through the same window of objectivity.  I am telling you of a problem that exists.  Listen to me, as I listened to Indians who suffered under the Burnham regime, merely because there were Indian, and therefore seen as unworthy.

 

ANy infant would have known that the PPP wa sgoing to reject the increase.  Even I said that they should, to embarrass the coalition.

 

I will however give the coalition credit by being sensitive to how they are viewed by the public, inclusive of their supporters.  The PPP in their arrogance, would have gone ahead, and screamed and played victim.

FM
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Havent seen your posts on Burnham, but I take your word for what you said. 

 

I still believe you should be more sensitive to the Indian concern also.

I am very6 sensitive to the Indian concern and have spoken about the impact of the Burnham regime.

 

Curious though.  When have you shown ANY sensitivity about the African concern?  Do you understand why so many on May 12th yelled "finally I feel like a Guyanese again,"  and the "slow Holocaust is over".

 

Reminded me much of October 1992.  So why no discussion of the PPPs treament of Africans, as we speak lengthily of how the Burnham regime treated Indians?

 

My FIRST post on GNI addressed that very fact.  Not some denial of PNC racism.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Havent seen your posts on Burnham, but I take your word for what you said. 

 

I still believe you should be more sensitive to the Indian concern also.

I am very6 sensitive to the Indian concern and have spoken about the impact of the Burnham regime.

 

Curious though.  When have you shown ANY sensitivity about the African concern?  Do you understand why so many on May 12th yelled "finally I feel like a Guyanese again,"  and the "slow Holocaust is over".

 

Reminded me much of October 1992.  So why no discussion of the PPPs treament of Africans, as we speak lengthily of how the Burnham regime treated Indians?

 

My FIRST post on GNI addressed that very fact.  Not some denial of PNC racism.

You forget to mention how Indians girls were rapes in the guise of one people, one nation and one destiny. 

R
Originally Posted by caribny:

Jordan needs to communicate better.  If some one shows data that is meant to mis lead, then the response is to counter that with corrected information.

 

Jordan responded, that "we have been discussing this issue". Granger said that he was aware of it.

 

Instead of being vague, they should bave made their oint.

 

The reality is that APNU/AFC thought that they could get away with this, and discovered that even their own support base was not in favor.  So they have now withdrawn the increase.

 

These people need to exit from the euphoria of the honeymoon period. It is OVER.  They will be judged harshly, even by their own support base, if they engage in the same arrogance that people saw under the PPP regime.

 

Already GT Mosquito (NOT a PPP biased media outlet) is becoming skeptical.

RE: The reality is that APNU/AFC thought that they could get away with this, and discovered that even their own support base was not in favor.  So they have now withdrawn the increase.

 

 

 

 

Show me how you came up with this.

cain

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