The only thing I care about is East Indian Guyanese nationalism.

Prashad posted:

The only thing I care about is East Indian Guyanese nationalism.

Okay Bro

I respect that you publicly state your case.

I care about humanity ,  regardless of race color or religion.

Chief posted:

I care about humanity ,  regardless of race color or religion.

a wave of nationalism sweeping europe is not only bad for muslims, but it is going to have a backlash on all of us.

VishMahabir posted:

Chief posted:

I care about humanity ,  regardless of race color or religion.

a wave of nationalism sweeping europe is not only bad for muslims, but it is going to have a backlash on all of us.

Vish I am happy that you are saying this.

People like Yugi who is calling Mr. Trump Mahatma  has no idea what he is talking about. Every person of color is at risk.

Trust me the Jews who really has power is also worried.

You folks giving false news, Italians voted NO for reforms, and the far right nationalist lost in Austria

VishMahabir posted:

Chief posted:

I care about humanity ,  regardless of race color or religion.

a wave of nationalism sweeping europe is not only bad for muslims, but it is going to have a backlash on all of us.

Muslims destroyed their world. I am against migrations to Europe from all of these places that cannot take care of themselves. The emptying out of Syria is a horrible thing. All of Africa can not decide to stream into europe.  Steps has to be taken to stop the flow. I would become nationalistic if I see Guyana suddenly being over run by Brazilians or Venezuelans or Chinese.

Danyael posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Chief posted:

I care about humanity ,  regardless of race color or religion.

a wave of nationalism sweeping europe is not only bad for muslims, but it is going to have a backlash on all of us.

Muslims destroyed their world. I am against migrations to Europe from all of these places that cannot take care of themselves. The emptying out of Syria is a horrible thing. All of Africa can not decide to stream into europe.  Steps has to be taken to stop the flow. I would become nationalistic if I see Guyana suddenly being over run by Brazilians or Venezuelans or Chinese.

What caused you to emigrate D2?  Why should America accept you?  At least these people are fleeing war and civil strife that they did not start.

Danyael posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Chief posted:

I care about humanity ,  regardless of race color or religion.

a wave of nationalism sweeping europe is not only bad for muslims, but it is going to have a backlash on all of us.

Muslims destroyed their world. I am against migrations to Europe from all of these places that cannot take care of themselves. The emptying out of Syria is a horrible thing. All of Africa can not decide to stream into europe.  Steps has to be taken to stop the flow. I would become nationalistic if I see Guyana suddenly being over run by Brazilians or Venezuelans or Chinese.

Antigua populatio  is 71k with 20k being Guyanese . Similar trend across Carircom nations when it comes to Guyanese.

SORRY D2 but had Carribean nations hold your view Guyanese would have never been there.

Muslims did not destroy their world , hysteria did.

HISTORY has proven that  mankind are nomads however what happened  in Syria is beyond atrocity .

If the Syrians were Jews we would have been hearing anothern script.

VVP posted:

Danyael posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Chief posted:

I care about humanity ,  regardless of race color or religion.

a wave of nationalism sweeping europe is not only bad for muslims, but it is going to have a backlash on all of us.

Muslims destroyed their world. I am against migrations to Europe from all of these places that cannot take care of themselves. The emptying out of Syria is a horrible thing. All of Africa can not decide to stream into europe.  Steps has to be taken to stop the flow. I would become nationalistic if I see Guyana suddenly being over run by Brazilians or Venezuelans or Chinese.

What caused you to emigrate D2?  Why should America accept you?  At least these people are fleeing war and civil strife that they did not start.

Sorry, I did not run from anything. I left in pursuit of education since guyana could not supply it...A levels and then Univ

Europe cannot accept all of these refugees and maintain its character no less than Guyana can accept all Venezuelans who want to seek refuge.

Chief posted:

Danyael posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Chief posted:

I care about humanity ,  regardless of race color or religion.

a wave of nationalism sweeping europe is not only bad for muslims, but it is going to have a backlash on all of us.

Muslims destroyed their world. I am against migrations to Europe from all of these places that cannot take care of themselves. The emptying out of Syria is a horrible thing. All of Africa can not decide to stream into europe.  Steps has to be taken to stop the flow. I would become nationalistic if I see Guyana suddenly being over run by Brazilians or Venezuelans or Chinese.

Antigua populatio  is 71k with 20k being Guyanese . Similar trend across Carircom nations when it comes to Guyanese.

SORRY D2 but had Carribean nations hold your view Guyanese would have never been there.

Muslims did not destroy their world , hysteria did.

HISTORY has proven that  mankind are nomads however what happened  in Syria is beyond atrocity .

If the Syrians were Jews we would have been hearing anothern script.

Caribbean nations do hold my view. Guyanese are eminently disliked in Tortola, in barbadoes, trinidad etc and these are only a few hundreds or less than a few thousands per. Imaging if 25 thousand just swarmed barbadoes!

I could understand the identity issues some some of these western countries have

Can we blame all this on George Bush invading Iraq?

Danyael posted:

VVP posted:

Danyael posted

What caused you to emigrate D2?  Why should America accept you?  At least these people are fleeing war and civil strife that they did not start.

Sorry, I did not run from anything. I left in pursuit of education since guyana could not supply it...A levels and then Univ

Europe cannot accept all of these refugees and maintain its character no less than Guyana can accept all Venezuelans who want to seek refuge.

Nothing prevented you from returning.

Why should America allow you to live here?  Should they have allowed only immigration from Europe to "maintain its character?"

European governments made a conscious decision to all refugees to enter, who are you to question their decision?  

skeldon_man posted:

Can we blame all this on George Bush invading Iraq?

He and Blair was warned.

VVP posted:

Danyael posted:

VVP posted:

Danyael posted

What caused you to emigrate D2?  Why should America accept you?  At least these people are fleeing war and civil strife that they did not start.

Sorry, I did not run from anything. I left in pursuit of education since guyana could not supply it...A levels and then Univ

Europe cannot accept all of these refugees and maintain its character no less than Guyana can accept all Venezuelans who want to seek refuge.

Nothing prevented you from returning.

Why should America allow you to live here?  Should they have allowed only immigration from Europe to "maintain its character?"

European governments made a conscious decision to all refugees to enter, who are you to question their decision?  

Dude...I was not a war damaged alien refugee. I am an educated producing completely integrated Westerner. I may be a heathen but heathens fit in seamlessly.

Also, 40K Guyanese came these past 20 years legally. That is to be contrasted with some 10 million people on the move, most illiterate and do not speaking english and clinging to religion who will never fit in seamlessly. Denmark is complaining and you could have lived there easily and get citizenship easily. I lived there a year and could have been a dane if I wanted.

I think you need to read. Germany said they wanted a million. Every other european nation said they want none of it. EU rules say they should all accept some. France said it has enough, same with Italy, Serbia, and former states of Yugoslavia said hell no. Same with the poles. Russia also said no and literally channeled the flow to europe. Turkey said they had enough....you got it wrong. Every European border states has put up razor wire fences. Even in SCENGEN Zones checks are done.

Chief posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Can we blame all this on George Bush invading Iraq?

He and Blair was warned.

Iraq is a wasteland because of ethnic factionalism. Same with Syria and Libya. Tunisia, Algeria are more western oriented even though they have the same problems. Somalia, Eritrea, Ethiopia are cold war detritus. Mali, Chad, Niger and the other Sahel states are economic refugees. The fact is we are facing migrations for various reasons completely disconnected from US kicking saddam out.

Danyael posted:

VVP - Nothing prevented you from returning.

Why should America allow you to live here?  Should they have allowed only immigration from Europe to "maintain its character?"

European governments made a conscious decision to all refugees to enter, who are you to question their decision?  

Dude...I was not a war damaged alien refugee. I am an educated producing completely integrated Westerner. I may be a heathen but heathens fit in seamlessly.

 

Just listen to the filth coming from you.

VVP posted:

Danyael posted:

VVP - Nothing prevented you from returning.

Why should America allow you to live here?  Should they have allowed only immigration from Europe to "maintain its character?"

European governments made a conscious decision to all refugees to enter, who are you to question their decision?  

Dude...I was not a war damaged alien refugee. I am an educated producing completely integrated Westerner. I may be a heathen but heathens fit in seamlessly.

 

Just listen to the filth coming from you.

that is not filth...my biking buddy spent one tour in Iraq and he is completely screwed up. He cannot ride well but is completely fearless and takes completely dangerous risks. I once worried he will killl himself and ask we ride less trying trails he said no. Only by riding and concentrating he gets the noise out of his head.

These people spend years being drummed by bullets and bombs. Many of the kids spend their entire lives as adrenaline junkies. They are definitely in need of rehabilitation.

Add to that many do not have any job skills for a western society and are hobbled linguistically and then you ask them to fit in where they have no social ties or community and you have a generation of people  seriously  stressed. That is a fact jack. Read european complaints.

In Cologne and Hamburg Christmas caroling in the public square as is traditional there was disrupted as hundreds of young arab men were running around grabbing women inappropriately.

Last summer the pools in in many districts had to put a  ban on young boys and men because they could not resist grabbing young women and girls. They could not understand it was inappropriate and are often upset Many states now have classes for appropriate behavior.

D2, quit your nonsense.  Who was responsible for you buddy being in Iraq??

You keep quoting specific situation s as if they represent the norm.

BTW in your response to European govts accepting refugees, I was talking about all refugees not just the Syrian wave.  They had massive influx from the war in Yugoslavia.

VVP posted:

D2, quit your nonsense.  Who was responsible for you buddy being in Iraq??

You keep quoting specific situation s as if they represent the norm.

BTW in your response to European govts accepting refugees, I was talking about all refugees not just the Syrian wave.  They had massive influx from the war in Yugoslavia.

My friend was there to fight because his nation called on him. My son's mother was in two of these conflicts because she signed up. It matters not why they went in the instances were are discussing but the damage it does to the psyche. It is why soldiers have so much problems on their return.

These people had years of conflict and tremendous psychic injury. Their sense of justice and restraint is completely out of sync in urban Europe where they will face other kinds of adversity.

Yugoslavia was a completely western nation. Even Muslim Croats etc are completely European. I live among many eastern Europeans, Ukranians. Serbians, Poles Hungarians and you do not know one from and american unless you pay attention.

Also, they all speak english, were educated in by western intellectual and literary cannon and share a bond as European peoples. Most are also Christians even the Russians. After all many are now a common entity in Europe. These people can legally move from one state to another in the schengen zones with no one blinking an eye.

Danyael posted:

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Caribbean nations do hold my view. Guyanese are eminently disliked in Tortola, in barbadoes, trinidad etc and these are only a few hundreds or less than a few thousands per. Imaging if 25 thousand just swarmed barbadoes!

Guyanese might be disliked, but those who are legally resident are allowed to remain.  They aren't physically attacked, and many hold responsible positions.

And with 20k Guyanese (or more) out of a population of 300k that is quite a large number.  Almost as much as the refugees swarming in Germany.

You cannot equate how Africans are treated in Europe with Guyanese in the islands.

Bajans don't like Trinis either, so migration isn't always the root cause for dislike.