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Originally posted by Zen:



You mean Moses never found his promised land? Apparently someone trotted ahead!

Moses found his promised land but God decreed that he himself would never enter it. So he walked around it for 50 years in a circle then died. Only after he died did the Israelites enter the promised land.

Just the same as MLK had a vision and from his mountain top, he also never lived to see the dream become reality. Read his speech, it will bring tears to your eyes.

I have never agreed with Nuff but he might be right on this. We have to wait and see. Time will tell.

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Originally posted by Rev Al:

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Moses does not have an independent vote. He has to toe the party line.

Moses made it clear that the AFC is an independent party---not beholden to the PNC(apnu).

He also mentioned his vote being the 33rd vote.


The PPP has 32 votes---they will need Moses vote---the 33rd vote---to get their bills passed.

THE PPP WOULD BE WISE TO SHOW RESPECT TO MOSES.

Rev

Point well taken. I recalled reading in a newspaper that Ramjattan approached the PPP for support in making Moses the speaker but the PPP refused. This shows that politics is a dirty game and that the PPP might have made a mistake by not taking up the offer. Let us all sit back and see how the new parliament works out before getting our sledgehammers out.

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Originally posted by yuji22:
I recalled reading in a newspaper that Ramjattan approached the PPP for support in making Moses the speaker but the PPP refused. This shows that politics is a dirty game and that the PPP might have made a mistake by not taking up the offer.

Yuji:

Arrogance has a way of back-firing!

In the 1964 elections, Jagan and the PPP won with 46% of the votes; Burnham and the PNC received 42% and D'Aguiar and the UF won 12%.

Initially D'Aguiar approached Jagan about forming a coalition. Jagan arrogantly rejected him.

THE REST IS HISTORY.

The British asked Burnham to form the government in a coalition with D'Aguiar. Jagan was kept out in the cold for 28 years.

Like I said, arrogance has a way of backfiring.

It backfired on Jagan in 1964---let's hope Ramotar understands he has to work with the opposition.


THE PPP WOULD BE WISE TO RESPECT MOSES.

Rev

Straight form the hip Al. Politicians sometimes forget that being humble might benefit a whole country than their own ego. PPP, PNC or AFC. Let us keep an eye on them.

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Initially D'Aguiar approached Jagan about forming a coalition. Jagan arrogantly rejected him.

Al.....it was Cheddi who tried to establish a national govt with the opposition in 1964 after the results were in.....the UF refused to join with the PPP and behind the scenes the governor invited the PNC and the UF to form a govt.....in order to keep the PPP out.....

It was called PR.

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Originally posted by Rev Al:

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Originally posted by yuji22:
I recalled reading in a newspaper that Ramjattan approached the PPP for support in making Moses the speaker but the PPP refused. This shows that politics is a dirty game and that the PPP might have made a mistake by not taking up the offer.

Yuji:

Arrogance has a way of back-firing!

In the 1964 elections, Jagan and the PPP won with 46% of the votes; Burnham and the PNC received 42% and D'Aguiar and the UF won 12%.

Initially D'Aguiar approached Jagan about forming a coalition. Jagan arrogantly rejected him.

THE REST IS HISTORY.

The British asked Burnham to form the government in a coalition with D'Aguiar. Jagan was kept out in the cold for 28 years.

Like I said, arrogance has a way of backfiring.

It backfired on Jagan in 1964---let's hope Ramotar understands he has to work with the opposition.


THE PPP WOULD BE WISE TO RESPECT MOSES.

Rev

D'Aguiar never approached jagan to form a coalation. peter entered politics to get rid of the jagans..

The governor told Burnham and D'Aguiar that it would be wise to give balram Singh Rai the Premier's Job but they refused.

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Originally posted by Churchill:
Al.....it was Cheddi who tried to establish a national govt with the opposition in 1964 after the results were in.....the UF refused to join with the PPP and behind the scenes the governor invited the PNC and the UF to form a govt.....in order to keep the PPP out.....

Cheddi may have wanted to establish a partnership with Burnham---and as usual Burnham outfoxed him.

But the TRUTH is---something many PPPites will deny---capitalist D'Aguiar approached communist Cheddi initially.

COMMUNIST CHEDDI WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH CAPITALIST D'AGUIAR.

The rest is history.

Rev

Thank you Rev Al!!!!!
Burnham outsmarted and outwitted Cheddie at every stage of his game.

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Originally posted by Chief:
Thank you Rev Al!!!!!
Burnham outsmarted and outwitted Cheddie at every stage of his game.

Soo wazz new, abie coolie too focus pon waan agenda, look wah happan with dem AFC bais, Trotty and Hughes pull a real fass wan pon dem. Jagans focus pon da communism and sink all abie coolie, dem AFC indos focus pon PPP hatred and naily sink all abie coolie again. Alyuh wach out wenn a coolie man talk wid too nuff passion, he nah see wah deh leff and rite.

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Originally posted by Sledgehammer:

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Originally posted by Chief:
Thank you Rev Al!!!!!
Burnham outsmarted and outwitted Cheddie at every stage of his game.

Soo wazz new, abie coolie too focus pon waan agenda, look wah happan with dem AFC bais, Trotty and Hughes pull a real fass wan pon dem. Jagans focus pon da communism and sink all abie coolie, dem AFC indos focus pon PPP hatred and naily sink all abie coolie again. Alyuh wach out wenn a coolie man talk wid too nuff passion, he nah see wah deh leff and rite.

Moses was right to say that he has the 33 rd vote, because the recall can only be used if he crossed the floor not vote against his party wishes...

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Originally posted by Rev Al:

MOSES ON SPOTLIGHT TV SAYS HE IS THE 33RD VOTE IN PARLIAMENT

Moses made it pellucidly clear on Spotlight TV that he is not beholden to the PNC(26 seats). He says the AFC(7 seats) is an independent party and he Moses personally represents the 33rd vote in parliament.---no bill gets passed without Moses' support.

He said that Jagdeo and his cabal did not respect him but today, with his 33rd vote in parliament he will have to be respected by the PPP(32 seats).

SO MOSES FANCIES HIMSELF THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN PARLIAMENT---HIS 33RD VOTE MAKES HIM SO.

Rev

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Originally posted by Kari:
The more you write the more you show how little you know. Maybe this is your plea to be educated. We will help.

God help us, had you written more on this forum, keep to the limits of two post per year... moron.

Hey shit-face, like you awoke from a stupor. Guh brush yuk stink mouth wipe de dribble off yuh singlet. In fact stop wasting de oxygen from dis planet yuh maklet korhee

Moses is part of History around the World,Victory can be made where few are gathered.Churchee let the little boys and Girls play,we all have positive things to attend to.

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Originally posted by Rev Al:


There is poor, pitiful Moses---pleading for attention and desperately wanting to stay relevant.



THIS IS WHAT PNC THUG TROTMAN DID TO MOSES:




The biggest political opportunist in Guyana, Raphael Trotman, a reincarnation of the devious Burnham, disemboweled miserable Moses.


BERBICIANS ARE DEEPLY ASHAMED OF MOSES.

Rev

you belong in the animal kingdom you have a pig a monkey and you is a jackass

Admin, please suspend warrior.

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Originally posted by Kari:
Hey shit-face, like you awoke from a stupor. Guh brush yuk stink mouth wipe de dribble off yuh singlet. In fact stop wasting de oxygen from dis planet yuh maklet korhee

hey pig face, go back in your sty and go eat some shit.

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Originally posted by Nuff:

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Originally posted by Kari:

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Originally posted by Kari:
The more you write the more you show how little you know. Maybe this is your plea to be educated. We will help.

This was meant for Nuff. The idiot with the haram pig photos needs to be left alone to eat his vomit.

Are you denying Moses was an unwanted entity until he stumbled into the AFC fold and was sold ideas of grandeur by Ramjattan.

Moses is a Johnny come lately to the opposition and he was on life support systems as a PPP member for the past 10 years. He needs to earn his props as an opposition member. He isn't manna from heaven as you guys make him out to be.

You know some people think manna is really psilocybe mushrooms. This is what the israelites were tripping on and halucinating with during their wilderness days ... just like you guys are tripping on Moses.

Moses did what he had to do. Note I mentioned a few days before he came on board the AFC train that if he did not come he will be made irrelevant. Otherwise, he will make history. Only by one act are most heroes born. Guyana will remember him. He made the PPP and the APNU sit down a the same table and open up Guyana to transparent government for the first time in its entire history. I am going to shut my mouth and let these people find their way. It will not be easy but it is the best way. It is not a matter of tripping on Moses. It is a matter at being over joyed at what came about by him taking the decision to jump ship.

Without him, the APNU would remain just a irrelevant as it did in the past. It would have no voice and the racist on this site that has suddenly come out of the woodwork would be happy pigs living in the reflected glow of abiwe pon top.

Now that sentiment is destabilized, they come out of their holes perplexed. As usual they believed by shouting that they are the best and god made them just right while all others come with blemishes that will win the day. Alas, they are just racists; irrelevant, ignorant and not ready for prime time. I am gone for awhile.

Moses Nagamootoo, Rafael Trotman, and Khemrj Ramjattan will be on Spotlight TV this afternoon at 3 PM and 5 PM - Ch 507 Time Warner Cable systems in New York.

Watch for any lingering questions you will have, and how the AFC will function in the new political arrangement in Guyana.

Kari, Can you please ask Trotty why THE PNC was accomodating to him and NOT Moses. What were the underlying REASONS and whether he thinks RACE has anything to do with the "PLAN".

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Originally posted by Kari:
Moses Nagamootoo, Rafael Trotman, and Khemrj Ramjattan will be on Spotlight TV this afternoon at 3 PM and 5 PM - Ch 507 Time Warner Cable systems in New York.

Watch for any lingering questions you will have, and how the AFC will function in the new political arrangement in Guyana.

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Kari, Can you please ask Trotty why THE PNC was accomodating to him and NOT Moses. What were the underlying REASONS and whether he thinks RACE has anything to do with the "PLAN".

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Originally posted by Kari:
Moses Nagamootoo, Rafael Trotman, and Khemrj Ramjattan will be on Spotlight TV this afternoon at 3 PM and 5 PM - Ch 507 Time Warner Cable systems in New York.

Watch for any lingering questions you will have, and how the AFC will function in the new political arrangement in Guyana.

Ii can answer that for you. When the President, Donal Ramotar, in a moment of political tactlessness, said that Moses is welcomed back into the fold and all is forgiven, or words to that effect, it gave Granger the ammo to say. "see, Moses is PPP trojan horse". In its determination to have the speakership the AFC offered a Moses surrogate, Trotman, to be the Speaker. Knowing that it cannot win an AFC/PPP vote on this matter, Granger caved in. It was a win-win situation fro the AFC and Moses. Think of Trotman and Moses as one and the same. Trotman is virulently anti-PNC BTW, and a determined Statesman who wants to see fair and transparent governance - the same political currency as Moses.

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Originally posted by Kari:
Moses Nagamootoo, Rafael Trotman, and Khemrj Ramjattan will be on Spotlight TV this afternoon at 3 PM and 5 PM - Ch 507 Time Warner Cable systems in New York.

Watch for any lingering questions you will have, and how the AFC will function in the new political arrangement in Guyana.

Moses should speak to the guyanese people not those idiots in New York..

No matter what Moses say or do, the people of berbice will never trust him again...

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Originally posted by Rev Al:

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Originally posted by Churchill:
Al.....it was Cheddi who tried to establish a national govt with the opposition in 1964 after the results were in.....the UF refused to join with the PPP and behind the scenes the governor invited the PNC and the UF to form a govt.....in order to keep the PPP out.....

Cheddi may have wanted to establish a partnership with Burnham---and as usual Burnham outfoxed him.

But the TRUTH is---something many PPPites will deny---capitalist D'Aguiar approached communist Cheddi initially.

COMMUNIST CHEDDI WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH CAPITALIST D'AGUIAR.

The rest is history.

Rev

Totally untrue. However, there were reports that Jagan approached Burnham to join in a coalition, but Burnham, knowing beforehand the plans of the British government to get rid of Jagan, refused. The US and British declassified documents clearly show how the American consul-general in Guyana arranged for D'Aguiar to team up with Burnham after the December 1964 elections. Actually, the governor appointed Burnham as Premier two days after the elections long before an agreement was brokered for the UF to join the PNC in a coalition. This agreement was reached around Dec. 20, 1964.

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Originally posted by Daren David:

Actually, the governor appointed Burnham as Premier two days after the elections long before an agreement was brokered for the UF to join the PNC in a coalition.

This agreement was reached around Dec. 20, 1964.

Succinctly ..

The British Government of the day was determined to use any means to make LFSB the Premeir of Guyana.

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Daren David:

Actually, the governor appointed Burnham as Premier two days after the elections long before an agreement was brokered for the UF to join the PNC in a coalition.

This agreement was reached around Dec. 20, 1964.

Succinctly ..

The British Government of the day was determined to use any means to make LFSB the Premeir of Guyana.

Look wah alyuh ga time foa talk bout. Today ah Ramotar time, abie gafa plant rice an' sugga and fite aff dem Buxton FF. Dazz wah abie talk bout donk hey. Amaba gatt alyuh prapa good up deh, but wach out, da Ginger man ah come.

Moses is changing his tune about Trotman. He now realized that if Ramjattan takes over the Leadership, he can become the Chairman..

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Moses is changing his tune about Trotman. He now realized that if Ramjattan takes over the Leadership, he can become the Chairman..

That's good.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Moses is changing his tune about Trotman. He now realized that if Ramjattan takes over the Leadership, he can become the Chairman..

??????????????

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Originally posted by Kari:

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Moses is changing his tune about Trotman. He now realized that if Ramjattan takes over the Leadership, he can become the Chairman..

??????????????

He is after power. This is the only way he can get it. Next he will challenge Ramjattan for the Leadership.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

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Originally posted by Kari:

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Moses is changing his tune about Trotman. He now realized that if Ramjattan takes over the Leadership, he can become the Chairman..

??????????????

He is after power. This is the only way he can get it. Next he will challenge Ramjattan for the Leadership.

That's good too.

So what did Moses had to say, anyone watched.?

Gal, Two great Football Games on, would you look at Snakeoil Commercials or watch the Games???

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Originally posted by alena:
So what did Moses had to say, anyone watched.?