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Prime Minister and acting President Moses Nagamootoo (Delano Williams photo)

…Nagamootoo rips Jagdeo for politically insensitive motion
…says move is to stir the fever of divisiveness

PRIME Minister Moses Nagamootoo has dismissed the no confidence motion filed by the opposition as politically insensitive given President David Granger’s state of health; and he says the motive is to stir up the “fever of divisiveness” in the country.

At a news conference on Friday hosted by the coalition at Congress Place, Sophia, Nagamootoo stated that the move by the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) Leader is “childish” and ill-motivated.
“It is very insensitive, the timing of a motion of no-confidence in government at a time when the sitting President is out of the country receiving medical attention. It is insensitive!”

Minister of Foreign Affairs and Prime Minister (ag) Carl Greenidge (Delano Williams photo)

“Where is the Guyanese compassion? Where is the Guyanese attitude of caring, of showing concern?” the prime minister asked, adding: “So I believe that it was a politically insensitive and childish move.”
The prime minister also criticised the comments made by Jagdeo at his most recent press conference where he posited that whether the PPP wins the motion or not, the country will benefit as the opposition will be able to point out the coalition’s wrongdoings.
These remarks, Nagamootoo believes, are proof that the opposition leader is ill-motivated in the tabling of the motion.

“It [the motion] has other motivations to breathe disaffection in the country to be able to stir the fever of divisiveness that the PPP invested in the communities because I know, I come from Berbice, [and] the level of ethnic division and hate…that they have sown in that community, they have to now find a ‘fig leaf’ to cover their shame of what they did during the campaign. So, they want to show that they have a moral obligation out of these elections —that there was some sort of a referendum in the Local Government Elections—so that they can move to say ipso facto the government should resign,” Nagamootoo said.
He then added: “This is not Donald Ramotar, this is Granger and Nagamootoo. They will be no surrender.”

The prime minister also added that the Speaker of the National Assembly holds the ultimate decision on whether the motion is admissible, especially at a time when the House is moving towards consideration of the budget estimates. “It has to be examined in the face of that. What is the political work of this no-confidence motion,”? he queried. Similarly, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Prime Minister (ag) Carl Greenidge referred to the no-confidence motion as “opportunistic” and one which seeks to take advantage of the President’s absence.

“It is trying to take advantage of what is a situation that I think, in normal circumstances, would be regarded as distasteful. You take advantage of apparently somebody’s challenges and misfortunes to try and create political capital,” the acting prime minister said.
He further rebutted the claims of the opposition that the motion was made in the interest of the nation, stating: “Mr. Jagdeo has claimed that it is in the national interest when it is for the nation to make that decision; and it cannot be in the national interest to, knowingly, lay before the house a motion which simply seeks to take an opportunity to sow division within the nation.”

“We are, at this point in time, looking at the national budget, a very important budget; it is the last budget before the elections of 2020 [it is] important to all of us for the things it needs to address and here is an attempt by the leader of the opposition arguing that it is in the national interest.”

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ronan posted:
kp posted:

As acting President he had to wear the PNC colour, GREEN. or did he abandon the AFC .

did Greenidge "abandon" APNU by wearing AFC colors?

waste post

So I attracted a WASTE, damn fool.

K

Those shirts were characters in their own right in the unfolding drama. Their silence spoke volumes to the countrywide audience. Reviews already in social media. May hit the mainstream press too.

FM
yuji22 posted:

Moses has no support base left. He has no their choice but to wear Green.

The man is a country's Acting President, what are you again? In the event of Pres. Granger's death, he becomes President. Looks like he's supremely smart and is playing the political game exceedingly well.

FM

Well, Moses is a smart man. He has nothing left politically so he has no other option left but to guard the PNC in order to save his pension which will be higher than Jagdeo’s.

FM
Leonora posted:
yuji22 posted:

Moses has no support base left. He has no their choice but to wear Green.

The man is a country's Acting President, what are you again? In the event of Pres. Granger's death, he becomes President. Looks like he's supremely smart and is playing the political game exceedingly well.

He becomes President in the event of Granger's death?  How much you betting?  

Bibi Haniffa
Leonora posted:
yuji22 posted:

Moses has no support base left. He has no their choice but to wear Green.

The man is a country's Acting President, what are you again? In the event of Pres. Granger's death, he becomes President. Looks like he's supremely smart and is playing the political game exceedingly well.

Moses is playing the fool’s game. Congress Place has their own plans for him. I am what 100 Moses cannot even dream of becoming.

FM
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kp posted:

The Green Shirt man is a Traitor, who wants to be a Traitor???

He's famous internationally. No one knows who KP is except that he owns a small plastic boat that flipped over.   

FM
Leonora posted:
kp posted:

The Green Shirt man is a Traitor, who wants to be a Traitor???

He's famous internationally. No one knows who KP is except that he owns a small plastic boat that flipped over.   

What is he famous for?

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
kp posted:

The Green Shirt man is a Traitor, who wants to be a Traitor???

All of a sudden he get green shirt and keeping Press Conference?  Granger will tend to him when he come back.

Congress Place na ready for him yet. President Granger is just sitting back and watching Moses destroy himself including the no confidence motion. President Granger is 1000 times smarter than Moses.

FM
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Leonora posted:
yuji22 posted:

Moses has no support base left. He has no their choice but to wear Green.

The man is a country's Acting President, what are you again? In the event of Pres. Granger's death, he becomes President. Looks like he's supremely smart and is playing the political game exceedingly well.

Not really so.

1. If unfortunately Granger suddenly dies due to his current illness, then indeed Nagamootoo will become President.

2. However, if David Granger is still alive but is not well to resume his function as president, Nagamootoo remains as Acting President.

3. As per point 2 above, PNCR will then determine one of its member to be be appointed President and Nagamootoo reverts to his existing position.

4. Should Granger able to function as President, it is quite possible that due to his health conditions, he will relinquish the position when another PNCR member is selected to succeed him.

5. Should point 1 occur, it will be a matter of time for a PNCR member be available to be appointed President and Nagamootoo immediately reverts to being prime minister.

FM

No wonder there are allegations that Moses is praying for the worse to happen to President Granger. 

President Granger will return to Guyana and make his decision and Moses will definitely NOT become President.

FM
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Demerara_Guy posted:
Leonora posted:
yuji22 posted:

Moses has no support base left. He has no their choice but to wear Green.

The man is a country's Acting President, what are you again? In the event of Pres. Granger's death, he becomes President. Looks like he's supremely smart and is playing the political game exceedingly well.

Not really so.

1. If unfortunately Granger suddenly dies due to his current illness, then indeed Nagamootoo will become President.

2. However, if David Granger is still alive but is not well to resume his function as president, Nagamootoo remains as Acting President.

3. As per point 2 above, PNCR will then determine one of its member to be be appointed President and Nagamootoo reverts to his existing position.

4. Should Granger able to function as President, it is quite possible that due to his health conditions, he will relinquish the position when another PNCR member is selected to succeed him.

5. Should point 1 occur, it will be a matter of time for a PNCR member be available to be appointed President and Nagamootoo immediately reverts to being prime minister.

Teach her some Maths.  She think PNC stupid.  That pack has already been re-shuffled in the event of a succession.  And by the way, was he sworn in as Acting President?  He voted earlier this week in the National Assembly which indicates that he was not sworn in.  If in fact he was sworn in, then that vote is null and void as a President or Acting President does not have voting rights in Parliament.

Bibi Haniffa
yuji22 posted:

Interesting. So the PNC outsmarted Moses, again !

Additionally, the Cummingsburg Accord which governs the structure of the coalition govt stipulates that the President must come from the PNC and the Prime Minister from the AFC.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Leonora posted:
kp posted:

The Green Shirt man is a Traitor, who wants to be a Traitor???

He's famous internationally. No one knows who KP is except that he owns a small plastic boat that flipped over.   

What is he famous for?

Two fine foot and a big belly. 😀😀 Catching up reading GNI, y’all firing away. 

alena06
alena06 posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Leonora posted:
kp posted:

The Green Shirt man is a Traitor, who wants to be a Traitor???

He's famous internationally. No one knows who KP is except that he owns a small plastic boat that flipped over.   

What is he famous for?

Two fine foot and a big belly. 😀😀 Catching up reading GNI, y’all firing away. 

Not me.  D_G teaching Lenox Maths.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Leonora posted:
yuji22 posted:

Moses has no support base left. He has no their choice but to wear Green.

The man is a country's Acting President, what are you again? In the event of Pres. Granger's death, he becomes President. Looks like he's supremely smart and is playing the political game exceedingly well.

Not really so.

1. If unfortunately Granger suddenly dies due to his current illness, then indeed Nagamootoo will become President.

2. However, if David Granger is still alive but is not well to resume his function as president, Nagamootoo remains as Acting President.

3. As per point 2 above, PNCR will then determine one of its member to be be appointed President and Nagamootoo reverts to his existing position.

4. Should Granger able to function as President, it is quite possible that due to his health conditions, he will relinquish the position when another PNCR member is selected to succeed him.

5. Should point 1 occur, it will be a matter of time for a PNCR member be available to be appointed President and Nagamootoo immediately reverts to being prime minister.

Teach her some Maths.  She think PNC stupid.  That pack has already been re-shuffled in the event of a succession.  And by the way, was he sworn in as Acting President?  He voted earlier this week in the National Assembly which indicates that he was not sworn in.  If in fact he was sworn in, then that vote is null and void as a President or Acting President does not have voting rights in Parliament.

Correct and every step well planed with back-up activities.

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Leonora posted:
yuji22 posted:

Moses has no support base left. He has no their choice but to wear Green.

The man is a country's Acting President, what are you again? In the event of Pres. Granger's death, he becomes President. Looks like he's supremely smart and is playing the political game exceedingly well.

Not really so.

1. If unfortunately Granger suddenly dies due to his current illness, then indeed Nagamootoo will become President.

2. However, if David Granger is still alive but is not well to resume his function as president, Nagamootoo remains as Acting President.

3. As per point 2 above, PNCR will then determine one of its member to be be appointed President and Nagamootoo reverts to his existing position.

4. Should Granger able to function as President, it is quite possible that due to his health conditions, he will relinquish the position when another PNCR member is selected to succeed him.

5. Should point 1 occur, it will be a matter of time for a PNCR member be available to be appointed President and Nagamootoo immediately reverts to being prime minister.

Teach her some Maths.  She think PNC stupid.  That pack has already been re-shuffled in the event of a succession.  And by the way, was he sworn in as Acting President?  He voted earlier this week in the National Assembly which indicates that he was not sworn in.  If in fact he was sworn in, then that vote is null and void as a President or Acting President does not have voting rights in Parliament.

Correct and every step well planed with back-up activities.

Granger will hand pick his successor if he needs to vacate office before 2020.  Like what Janet Jagan did.   And I can tell you right now that it ain't going to be Nagamootoo.  

Bibi Haniffa
Leonora posted:
kp posted:

The Green Shirt man is a Traitor, who wants to be a Traitor???

He's famous internationally. No one knows who KP is except that he owns a small plastic boat that flipped over.   

Let me put straight to you little girl, I can buy and sell Moses many times and who knows me, knows me! I built my businesses with sweat and hard work, never kiss asses and never a traitor. Tomorrow I am hosting our 24 th. annual fund raising luncheon of which all proceeds going towards funding scholarships to kids in my village, What will you be doing?

K
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Granger will hand pick his successor if he needs to vacate office before 2020.  Like what Janet Jagan did.   And I can tell you right now that it ain't going to be Nagamootoo.  

It definitely will not be Naa Naa Naagan Nagamootoo.

FM
Drugb posted:

Surprising that this thread only has Ronan representing the propaganda crew.  Where is django and mitwah?

Mutt and Jeff are having meeting with the wanna be president, and ronan is on training.

K

According to the Cummingsburg Accord, the president has to come from the majority of the coalition, which is the PNC. It doesn't stop Moses from acting until they find a permanent replacement. He is presently acting PNC.

K
kp posted:
Drugb posted:

Surprising that this thread only has Ronan representing the propaganda crew.  Where is django and mitwah?

Mutt and Jeff are having meeting with the wanna be president, and ronan is on training.

Jes wondering

 

...assuming all of what D-G is saying is true, and I have no reason to doubt him...did Sam Hinds not suffer the same fate under the PPP??

 

V
Demerara_Guy posted:
Leonora posted:
yuji22 posted:

Moses has no support base left. He has no their choice but to wear Green.

The man is a country's Acting President, what are you again? In the event of Pres. Granger's death, he becomes President. Looks like he's supremely smart and is playing the political game exceedingly well.

Not really so.

1. If unfortunately Granger suddenly dies due to his current illness, then indeed Nagamootoo will become President.

2. However, if David Granger is still alive but is not well to resume his function as president, Nagamootoo remains as Acting President.

3. As per point 2 above, PNCR will then determine one of its member to be be appointed President and Nagamootoo reverts to his existing position.

4. Should Granger able to function as President, it is quite possible that due to his health conditions, he will relinquish the position when another PNCR member is selected to succeed him.

5. Should point 1 occur, it will be a matter of time for a PNCR member be available to be appointed President and Nagamootoo immediately reverts to being prime minister.

D-G,...a question for you...

Are there laws that prevent members of one party from "crossing the floor" in the Constitution. I thought after Burnham was able to get some PPP people to cross the floor (Chandisingh, Teekah?), the laws were changed to prevent this in the future?

V
VishMahabir posted:

D-G,...a question for you...

Are there laws that prevent members of one party from "crossing the floor" in the Constitution. I thought after Burnham was able to get some PPP people to cross the floor (Chandisingh, Teekah?), the laws were changed to prevent this in the future?

Teekah, Chandisingh, etc., are of a different time with no relationship to the current constitution.

Current Constitution

President is elected and he then chooses members from his slate.

President appoints ministers whom he can fire at any time with/without reason(s). Similar for members of his party in parliament.

Members decorum in parliament.

Members generally vote strictly according party lines.

Current Situation.

Members of parliament cannot cross over to another party nor leave the party to sit as an independent member.

Specific Situation in Guyana.

Because the government has a one-seat majority, it exercises extreme caution to have sessions when member(s) are unable to attend if they are in or out of the country.

Were they hold sessions and some members are away, they could face the strong possibility of a non-confidence motion being passed against the government in parliament.

FM
yuji22 posted:
Drugb posted:

Surprising that this thread only has Ronan representing the propaganda crew.  Where is django and mitwah?

Paycheque not delivered as yet.

I wonder if they received their Pink Slip.

K
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