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Very touching. I must say that his speech was very good for Muslims.

I could say I get it when black folks who complained that they fought in the war for the US but then faced discrimination when they returned home....I understood what they meant, but truly felt it as I listened to Mr. Khan

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RiffRaff posted:
Very touching. I must say that his speech was very good for Muslims.
I could say I get it when black folks who complained that they fought in the war for the US but then faced discrimination when they returned home....I understood what they meant, but truly felt it as I listened to Mr. Khan

Many black people remember jim crow. Some had grandparents in slavery. My wife was telling me that her grandfather was a slave. I cannot imagine it.

7/29/1610:29 AM

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Khizr Khan, and the moment American Muslims have been waiting for

By Daniel Burke, CNN Religion Editor

Updated 1:20 PM ET, Fri July 29, 2016

(CNN)The 2016 presidential campaign has not been easy on American Muslims.

Donald Trump, the GOP presidential nominee, has proposed banning immigrants from Muslim-majority countries. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich suggested that Muslims who believe in Shariah should be deported. And former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Muslims on the federal government's terrorism watch list -- a secretive and some say overly broad list -- should be forced to wear electronic bracelets to monitor their whereabouts.

Many American Muslims said they've been disappointed by Democrats as well. On Wednesday night, former President Bill Clinton said Muslims who "hate terror and love freedom" should "stay here," an implication, some said, that Muslims' citizenship is contingent and temporary.

During one GOP debate late last year, one Muslim said the election was like watching political football -- and American Muslims aren't on either team. They're the football.

So when Khizr Khan, the father of a slain American soldier, took the stage at the Democratic National Convention on Thursday night and shook his copy of the Constitution at Trump, you could almost see the collective fist pump from Muslims across the country.

"I was choking back tears," said Arsalan Iftikhar, author of the book "Scapegoats: How Islamophobia Helps Our Enemies and Threatens Our Freedoms."

"At a time when Islamophobia is growing thanks to hateful demagogues like Donald Trump, it was heartening to see the Democratic party give a prime-time slot to the father of a fallen Muslim-American soldier who rhetorically slapped Donald Trump in the face with his pocket-size Constitution."

Khan, whose son, Army Capt. Humayun Khan, 27, died from a suicide bombing in Baghdad 12 years ago, said Trump's shifting proposals to ban Muslims from entering the country would have prevented his late son from serving in the military. The Khans, originally from Pakistan, immigrated to the United States in the 1970s from the United Arab Emirates.

"Have you ever been to Arlington Cemetery? Go look at the graves of the brave patriots who died defending America -- you will see all faiths, genders and ethnicities," Khan asked Trump. "You have sacrificed nothing and no one."

In challenging Trump, Khan was "representing so many American Muslims who endured having sand kicked in our faces for too long," wrote Shahed Amanullah, a media entrepreneur and former State Department adviser.

"God bless the Khans who said what so many of us want to say," tweeted Imam Suhaib Webb, a popular Washington cleric with a wide following on social media. "God bless them and their son."

"I've seen #KhizrKhan's speech a few times now," tweeted Wajahat Ali, a journalist and writer. "It takes a Desi Muslim uncle to remind America of its core values & freedoms," he added, using terms of endearment for older South Asian immigrants.

Ali later added that Khan's daughter in law said he's kept that worn out copy of the Constitution in his coat pocket for as long as she's known him.

Even on a night when Hillary Clinton became the first woman to accept a major party's presidential nomination, Khan's short speech was the "best and most necessary" during either the Democratic or Republican national conventions, wrote Catholic intellectual Andrew Sullivan.

"When that father brought out his own copy of the Constitution and waved it at Donald Trump, it was the fulcrum of this election. This is what is at stake -- the core values of this country under threat from a man who has no understanding of the Constitution he would swear to uphold."

But Khan's speech also elicited mixed emotions, some American Muslims said. Many are deeply skeptical of American militarism and ambivalent about parading their community's patriotism.

"I think it was an incredibly moving moment," said Zareena Grewal, a professor at Yale University and author of "Islam is a Foreign Country."

"Khizr and Ghazala Khan paid the ultimate price and moved the crowd and those of us at home with one of the simplest but most powerful testimonies at the DNC. I was touched by their love for their son and their country and their defiant conviction in American values."

At the same time, Grewal said she was troubled that anti-war chants were silenced at the convention, and she, like many American Muslims deeply opposed the Iraq war in which Khan's son died. Last September, four family members -- all innocent civilians -- died in American-led airstrikes in Mosul, Iraq.

"I hope there is still room in the DNC for anti-war progressives such as myself. And I wonder if American Muslims who are anti-war pacifists can be seen as patriotic or if we only want Muslims to be peaceful when they oppose terrorism but not when they oppose violent US foreign policies including the hawkish policies Clinton too often supports," Grewal said.

Dilshad D. Ali, who as managing editor of the Muslim Channel at Patheos keeps close tabs on Muslim-American conversations, said this morning she's hearing continuing condemnation of war, specifically the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions, and mixed emotions about praising the Khan family for their son's service in a contentious war.

"But I'm also hear a lot of support for Khan and him standing up to Trump. And a lot of sadness that Muslims are still having to prove they are 'good Americans.'"

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7/29/161:47 PM

Former Member

A profound presentation by Khizr Khan.

7/29/162:40 PM

ChiefSenior Member

Mr Khizr Khan spoke for every American Muslim!

7/29/165:12 PM

PrashadSenior Member

The Pakis are undoing about 50 years of anti-paki work and activism in these ABC countries all in the name of furthering the cause of Arab white supremacy. They are very content in becoming a chocolate Arab minority and live in a paki sh-t pit in one of the Arab gulf countries. And who is left holding the bag. The rest of us people of South Asian origin. Because we will be kicked with the Paki because of our ethnicity.

7/29/168:57 PM

ChiefSenior Member

Shut you poke.

7/30/1612:02 AM

Former Member

It's great to see such patriotic Muslims. I'm sure he does not excuse away ISIS terrorism or will dance in the streets when the US is attacked. These are the very Muslims Trump want's to separate from the bad ones. Unfortunately, there is not an easy method to determine. It's the bad Muslims among us who cause these good Muslims to get a bad name!!

Just look at the hateful fullah on this site!!

7/30/1612:32 AM

PrashadSenior Member

Chief posted:
Shut you poke.

Chief if you are contented in becoming a chocolate Arab and being kicked in your flat backside by Arab white supremacy then be my guest but don't mess with the identity of the rest of us people of South Asian origin.

7/30/1612:49 AM

ChiefSenior Member

Islam does not belong to the Arabs. It started there bUT in the past 1438 years of its existence it has spread all to every corner of the world, not by Arab influence but by Islam own teachings.

7/30/168:30 AM

PrashadSenior Member

Islam is a beautiful religion but what these fanatic Pakis and others are engaged in is the spread of Arab supremacy colonialism. I am a man who is proud of my Indo-Aryan and dravidian ethnic origin. I am proud of the contribution of the early Mughal rulers of india who were Turkish muslims to the uplifting of India into one of the most powerful countries in the world. What I don't like is my people supporting these Arabs and the helping them while they continue to see us as an inferior people and have no respect for our culture and other important aspects of our identity.

7/30/1610:52 AM

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Prashad posted:
Islam is a beautiful religion but what these fanatic Pakis and others are engaged in is the spread of Arab supremacy colonialism. I am a man who is proud of my Indo-Aryan and dravidian ethnic origin. I am proud of the contribution of the early Mughal rulers of india who were Turkish muslims to the uplifting of India into one of the most powerful countries in the world. What I don't like is my people supporting these Arabs and the helping them while they continue to see us as an inferior people and have no respect for our culture and other important aspects of our identity.

I don't care fro the Arab influence either.

7/30/1611:07 AM

NehruBig Mouth Member

I can stand tall and say I for decades now have been advising our Guyanese Muslim brothers and Sisters of the danger of following ME Imams. I tried to get them to understand being in the same Religion is not all. Guyanese Culture and upbringing is vastly different from that of the ME. Stick to who you are and what you know. My two cents!!

7/30/1611:13 AM

PrashadSenior Member

I agree with Nehru, East Indian Muslims of Guyana should stick with who they are and what they know. It is the juty of all East Indian Muslim Guyanese parents to educate their children about this.

7/30/162:56 PM

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