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Moses Nagamootoo says in his Facebook page:

"Jagdeo slanders Cheddi: During 1966, I came down to Bel Air village in Georgetown with Pandit Tiwari and a group of PPP activists to help prepare the land on which Cheddi Jagan would build his house. We fetched dirt in rice bags to fill the swampy land. Dr. Jagan, the country's former Premier, was at the time living in a rented building.
The Corentyne volunteers stayed in an old, wooden house in the adjoining lot that was owned by Boysie Ramkarran, who was then the PPP's deputy leader. We were told that Boysie had given or sold a piece of his land so that Cheddi could live near to him.
After the land-fill was completed, Dr. Jagan brought a man whose name I remember as Sadhu to build the house, which Dr. Jagan insisted he had himself designed. It was to be a two bedroom house, in which he and Janet, and their two children, were to live permanently thereafter.
It remained a modest house, which I would frequent when m
y family and I went to live in Bel Air village between 1975 and 1985. At that time Cheddi cultivated a vegetable patch and a variety of fruit trees. The cluster of sugar canes gave the yard the look of his boyhood Port Mourant estate.
Bharrat Jagdeo, the architect of Pradoville One and Pradoville Two, slandered Cheddi Jagan when he compared and likened Cheddi's house to his mansions. He lied when he situate Cheddi's house in Bel Air Park.
It was Bel Air village, on the outskirts of the city, known for cattle-rearing.
The Cheddi I knew and worked closely with, right until his death in 1997, was an honest, modest, frugal leader. As far as I know, the Bel Air house was the only property he had owned. He was incorruptible, and maintained utmost integrity in public life, unlike the crop of pseudo-leaders who have since hijacked his party.

Jagdeo, who had made his tenure as president into a real estate jaunt, cannot compare the modest house of the Jagans with his palaces, and the only reason he could have tried to do so in such a shameless way, is to taint them with his brush of political sleaze.
I bet Cheddi's house, at the time it was build, would cost less than that spent on Jagdeo's pool house, and far less than taxpayers' monies spent to repair or renovate the teeth of ministers, or the equivalent of a month of Jagdeo's presidential pension package!
Shame on you, Jagdeo!

Below is the Jagans' home [inset] compared to Jagdeo's gated mansion.

jag

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“If you live in a glass house, dont throw stones!”

It is for good reason that the months leading up to elections here are dubbed “the silly season”. With the elections that President

The Bel Air Village homes of the late former President Dr Cheddi Jagan and his children. The one on the right was reportedly recently sold

The Bel Air Village homes of the late former President Dr Cheddi Jagan and his children. The one on the right was reportedly recently sold

jagan1Donald Ramotar says are “the most important since 1964â€ģ, rather than the plans for developing the country by the competing parties being compared and contrasted, a huge discourse has developed over the home of Dr Cheddi Jagan – whose life and legacy are being commemorated this month.
It all began with former President Bharat Jagdeo holding his first press conference after demitting office in 2011 and addressing the strident criticisms about his “benefits” as an ex-President and the house he built at Sparendaam.
On the former, contrary to the tens of millions that his critics in the Opposition claimed had been drained from the Treasury to pay for his medical and other “benefits” – Jagdeo flatly announced that he hadn’t “received a cent”.
But contrary to their libellous statements for over three years, a sudden deafening silence descended in this subject. Not a single one of his critics had the grace to say they were wrong, much less offer an apology. What they did was to simply move on to

The Bel Air Village residence of former Speaker of the National Assembly Ralph Ramkarran, one of three houses on the property

The Bel Air Village residence of former Speaker of the National Assembly Ralph Ramkarran, one of three houses on the property

another line of attack.
On the issue of the house he had built at Sparendaam, Jagdeo explained he was able to do this from the proceeds he received from selling his previous house at Ogle. All of this had been in the public domain from the onset, but the spin placed on the attack on Jagdeo was to claim that Jagdeo had “betrayed” the legacy of Dr Jagan.
In this manner critics in the Opposition were assuming and asserting that it was against the tenets of the teachings of Dr Jagan to have a large home and that a member of his party, such as Jagdeo, should live in circumstances amounting to poverty.
Responding to a direct question based on this specious argument at the press conference, Jagdeo stated: “I don’t believe Ministers should have to live in a logie to prove that they are not corruptâ€Ķ. Cheddi Jagan didn’t have to prove that by living in a logieâ€ĶI don’t think Cheddi Jagan, living in Bel Air that time, in a nice house, was typical of Guyana.
“But Cheddi Jagan lived at that time there. Did that weaken his commitment to the cause? No. At that time that was a prime area. It was a big piece of land, nice house and it still is a nice house. Did that weaken his commitment to the cause? Did that make him corrupt or anything of the sort? What is the point they are making?”
One of the first to try to rebut Jagdeo’s explanation was Ralph Ramkarran, whose bitterness at Jagdeo had festered since he had

A typical home of a sugar worker

A typical home of a sugar worker

left the People’s Progressive Party (PPP/C), blaming the former President for Ramotar being chosen as the PPP/C’s Presidential Candidate in 2011 rather than him.
He refused to accept that his erstwhile comrades had great resentment for his resentment in refusing to become a Minister under Jagan in 1992, because he felt under the new PPP/C Government more business would be steered his company’s way.
Ramkarran even refused to take the role as a Minister of Government when Jagan offered him in 1992, because he wanted more pay, making it clear that a Minister’s salary was below his expectations.
He also demanded another ‘salary’, wanting all Government’s legal business go through his law firm, Cameron and Shepherd. He also turned down another offer when Janet Jagan became President, citing similar financial reasons.
Most germanely, what made even some who were still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt was that Attorney General Anil Nandalall had only recently made a presentation to the Executive Committee of the party, detailing two alleged financial fraud scandals in which Ramkarran had been the central figure.
The matters involves a Trinidadian woman, Sherene Mongroo, who has strong Guyanese connections, and is still fighting to rescue her father’s estate, believed to be valued in the tens of millions of US dollars.

The North Road mansion of the late former President Hugh Desmond Hoyte

The North Road mansion of the late former President Hugh Desmond Hoyte

Fingered characters include members of her own family, a prominent Caribbean banker, an airline employee, medical doctors and various attorneys including Ramkarran. The case is currently before the courts in Guyana and is also under continued investigation. Ironically, Ramkarran is one of the attorneys appearing in the case.
Ramkarran has come out in his blog, which was picked up by the Opposition media, not addressing Jagdeo’s point that Dr Jagan did not intend to have his Ministers live in perpetuity in strained circumstances.
He supplied figures of $2000 for the land on which Jagan built his house which would suggest in today’s currency that it was very minuscule. But in doing so, he disingenuously avoids Jagdeo’s point that Jagan did not live in a “logie” to show he cared for the downtrodden.
His $2000 in 1960 could buy a larger piece of land that Jagdeo’s present house is situated on. While his house might be modest by today’s standard, it was certainly way beyond the quality of the home of the sugar workers who had just moved out of the logies.
But what was most disheartening to those Guyanese hoping for those Guyanese hoping for a reasoned discussion on whether a vow of poverty is necessary for public service was not the hysterical reaction of the Opposition.
This was expected – even though most of them live in very large glass houses and should not have been throwing stones. But it was the letter from Jagan’s daughter, Nadia Jagan-Brancier, who had long ago decamped Guyana for Canada where she lives in luxury compared to any Guyanese.
Writing from her new homeland, she picked up Ramkarran’s vitriol-laden argument and using the “legitimacy” as a daughter of Jagan, berated Jagdeo for dare suggesting that her father lived in a “mansion” – something Jagdeo had never done. And of course the press pushed her maudlin and flawed argument.
In today’s edition, following the maxim that “a picture is worth a thousand words” we print pics of relevant homes for comparison.
While pointing out what no one – including Jagan-Brancier and Ramkarran – can argue against as proposed by Jagdeo: Dr Jagan never intended to have his successors to live in hovels, riding bicycles.
If so, why even bother to struggle?

 

Guyana Times justifying Jaggys mansion.

Django
Last edited by Django
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

MOSES WAS 16 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME. He didn't do a damn thing.

 

The man known as Sadhu (Sadoo) was my father.

 

Correction:  Moses was 14 years old.

Incorrect, Rama.

In 1966, I was 15 years old. Moses is 4 years older than me, so he was 19 years old in 1966. I attended a number of Moses' birthday celebrations of yesteryear, so I know.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

MOSES WAS 16 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME. He didn't do a damn thing.

 

The man known as Sadhu (Sadoo) was my father.

 

Correction:  Moses was 14 years old.

Incorrect, Rama.

In 1966, I was 15 years old. Moses is 4 years older than me, so he was 19 years old in 1966. I attended a number of Moses' birthday celebrations of yesteryear, so I know.

You know shyte all.  Moses lied when he said he helped build Jagan's house.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

MOSES WAS 16 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME. He didn't do a damn thing.

 

The man known as Sadhu (Sadoo) was my father.

 

Correction:  Moses was 14 years old.

Incorrect, Rama.

In 1966, I was 15 years old. Moses is 4 years older than me, so he was 19 years old in 1966. I attended a number of Moses' birthday celebrations of yesteryear, so I know.

You know shyte all.  Moses lied when he said he helped build Jagan's house.

Rama was never Introduced to the Truth...

Aya lef the Lieng Sucker....

 

Rama Question...

If Moses was 14 years old in 1966.....49 years ago....

How old is he now?

 

Is this the same Person we talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Nagamootoo

 

 

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Honest:

I didn't know Jagan was so promiscuous. Moses is his long (40 years lost) lost son. But, but Janet said he got too many zeroes in his name Nagamootoo and i am using the abbreviated version of his name.

The PNC hated Dr. Jagan and Moses is now being asked to become the prodigal son so that he can get a few token Indians to vote for the alliance.

R
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by Honest:

I didn't know Jagan was so promiscuous. Moses is his long (40 years lost) lost son. But, but Janet said he got too many zeroes in his name Nagamootoo and i am using the abbreviated version of his name.

this is so idiotic...you must be PPP

If that is all you can say then you must be a bigger idiot than him.

Is it a crime to a PPP supporter.  I believe your ignorance has surpassed your stupidity.

have a nicer day..

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by Honest:

I didn't know Jagan was so promiscuous. Moses is his long (40 years lost) lost son. But, but Janet said he got too many zeroes in his name Nagamootoo and i am using the abbreviated version of his name.

this is so idiotic...you must be PPP

If that is all you can say then you must be a bigger idiot than him.

Is it a crime to a PPP supporter.  I believe your ignorance has surpassed your stupidity.

have a nicer day..

Well, if you think what he said is smart or funny, then you mus be anadda PPP man..

FM
Last edited by Former Member

Moses thinks by being a low class coolie and move dirt for Dr. Jagan, he is qualified to be president. It doesn't work that way. TK used to distribute pamplets for the PPP, and he didn't make it. The PPP helped a lot of low class coolies graduate from University.  Burnham said it right. Qualifications mean nothing to him only your loyalty.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Moses thinks by being a low class coolie and move dirt for Dr. Jagan, he is qualified to be president. It doesn't work that way. TK used to distribute pamplets for the PPP, and he didn't make it. The PPP helped a lot of low class coolies graduate from University.  Burnham said it right. Qualifications mean nothing to him only your loyalty.

Obviously the PPP/C is again following Burnham's lead, hence the many ignorant people left in the party.

cain
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Moses thinks by being a low class coolie and move dirt for Dr. Jagan, he is qualified to be president. It doesn't work that way. TK used to distribute pamplets for the PPP, and he didn't make it. The PPP helped a lot of low class coolies graduate from University.  Burnham said it right. Qualifications mean nothing to him only your loyalty.

Hey drunky, Moses is of a higher class than you.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

Moses Nagamootoo says in his Facebook page:

"Jagdeo slanders Cheddi: During 1966, I came down to Bel Air village in Georgetown with Pandit Tiwari and a group of PPP activists to help prepare the land on which Cheddi Jagan would build his house. We fetched dirt in rice bags to fill the swampy land. Dr. Jagan, the country's former Premier, was at the time living in a rented building.
The Corentyne volunteers stayed in an old, wooden house in the adjoining lot that was owned by Boysie Ramkarran, who was then the PPP's deputy leader. We were told that Boysie had given or sold a piece of his land so that Cheddi could live near to him.
After the land-fill was completed, Dr. Jagan brought a man whose name I remember as Sadhu to build the house, which Dr. Jagan insisted he had himself designed. It was to be a two bedroom house, in which he and Janet, and their two children, were to live permanently thereafter.
It remained a modest house, which I would frequent when m
y family and I went to live in Bel Air village between 1975 and 1985. At that time Cheddi cultivated a vegetable patch and a variety of fruit trees. The cluster of sugar canes gave the yard the look of his boyhood Port Mourant estate.
Bharrat Jagdeo, the architect of Pradoville One and Pradoville Two, slandered Cheddi Jagan when he compared and likened Cheddi's house to his mansions. He lied when he situate Cheddi's house in Bel Air Park.
It was Bel Air village, on the outskirts of the city, known for cattle-rearing.
The Cheddi I knew and worked closely with, right until his death in 1997, was an honest, modest, frugal leader. As far as I know, the Bel Air house was the only property he had owned. He was incorruptible, and maintained utmost integrity in public life, unlike the crop of pseudo-leaders who have since hijacked his party.

Jagdeo, who had made his tenure as president into a real estate jaunt, cannot compare the modest house of the Jagans with his palaces, and the only reason he could have tried to do so in such a shameless way, is to taint them with his brush of political sleaze.
I bet Cheddi's house, at the time it was build, would cost less than that spent on Jagdeo's pool house, and far less than taxpayers' monies spent to repair or renovate the teeth of ministers, or the equivalent of a month of Jagdeo's presidential pension package!
Shame on you, Jagdeo!

Below is the Jagans' home [inset] compared to Jagdeo's gated mansion.

jag

So Jags House is a small house.  

FM

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