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FM
Former Member
  
Tuesday, 03 July 2012 22:12
HAVING read the sentiments expressed by Mr. Moses Nagamootoo and Mr. Khemraj Ramjattan of the AFC on the new found high regard they have for Mr. Ralph Ramkarran, they should now tell the nation why they ganged up against him with Mr. Granger and the APNU to deny him the speakership of the National Assembly. It is indeed a sad day for politics in Guyana as here is another glaring example of the behaviour of some of our politicians who, just a few months ago, felt that Mr. Ramkarran was not fit to preside over our National Assembly, but now describe him as a β€˜giant of a politician’.
Not that I do not agree with the distinguished achievements of the former Speaker, which is why I fully support the statement by the PPP today indicating that Mr. Ramkarran is a long-standing and highly respected member and he has made very valuable contributions to the party and the country as a whole.
I am also pleased that the party will continue to engage Mr. Ramkarran in further discussions to reconcile the matter.

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'Nagamootoo, Ramjattanan should say why they ganged up against Ramkarran'


 Very  simple; if  the  idiots  in  the  PPP  had  any  brains   between  their   collective ears,  they  would  have  realized  that  having  failed  to  secure  an  absolute majority  in  Parliament, there  is  absolutely no  way  they   could  secured  the  Speakership without  the  support  of  one  of  the  Opposition. Had  they  exhibited  maturity & tactical savvy  and  support   Nagamottoo  for  Speaker ,  there  would  have  been  no  need  for  the  AFC  to make  any  deal  with  APNU and   at  least  Ralph would  have  been  the  deputy  Speaker  instead  of  Deb  Bakker.

FM
Originally Posted by Mara:

Very simple; if the idiots in the PPP had any brains between their collective ears, they would have realized that having failed to secure an absolute majority in Parliament, there is absolutely no way they could secured the Speakership without the support of one of the Opposition. Had they exhibited maturity & tactical savvy and support Nagamottoo for Speaker, there would have been no need for the AFC to make any deal with APNU and at least Ralph would have been the deputy Speaker instead of Deb Bakker.

What are the world-wide principles for selecting the Speaker, especially when there is a minority government?

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by PRK:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

HEHEHE Look who is talkin, the Mother of ALL SCUMS. What a SHAMELESS PRICK!!!!

Listen to the low class with a hyena shit brain. 

You are the ONLY one displaying a SHIT brain. You need to learn your ABC then come back to GNI.

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You have a hyena shit brain because you can only get high on free food and drinks with the boys from Guyana. 

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Mara:

Very simple; if the idiots in the PPP had any brains between their collective ears, they would have realized that having failed to secure an absolute majority in Parliament, there is absolutely no way they could secured the Speakership without the support of one of the Opposition. Had they exhibited maturity & tactical savvy and support Nagamottoo for Speaker, there would have been no need for the AFC to make any deal with APNU and at least Ralph would have been the deputy Speaker instead of Deb Bakker.

What are the world-wide principles for selecting the Speaker, especially when there is a minority government?

The  world  wide  principles  has  always  been a consensus  candidate  supported  by  at  least 50%  of  the  elected  members   + 1.  The  party with  the  plurality  of the  votes  is  more  likely   to  secure  the position by  skillful and  sincere  negotiation with minority  parties, where  there  is some give  &  take. Only  the  bird brains in  the  PPP would think and  behave as  if  they  have an  automatic  lock  on such  appointment.   

FM
Originally Posted by Mara:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Mara:

Very simple; if the idiots in the PPP had any brains between their collective ears, they would have realized that having failed to secure an absolute majority in Parliament, there is absolutely no way they could secured the Speakership without the support of one of the Opposition. Had they exhibited maturity & tactical savvy and support Nagamottoo for Speaker, there would have been no need for the AFC to make any deal with APNU and at least Ralph would have been the deputy Speaker instead of Deb Bakker.

What are the world-wide principles for selecting the Speaker, especially when there is a minority government?

The world wide principles has always been a consensus candidate supported by at least 50% of the elected  members + 1. The  party with the plurality of the votes is more likely to secure the position by skillful and sincere negotiation with minority parties, where there is some give & take. Only the bird brains in the PPP would think and behave as if they have an automatic lock on such appointment.   

Check the situations, for example in Canada as one of the places, on how the Speaker was selected, especially for a minority government.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Mara:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Mara:

Very simple; if the idiots in the PPP had any brains between their collective ears, they would have realized that having failed to secure an absolute majority in Parliament, there is absolutely no way they could secured the Speakership without the support of one of the Opposition. Had they exhibited maturity & tactical savvy and support Nagamottoo for Speaker, there would have been no need for the AFC to make any deal with APNU and at least Ralph would have been the deputy Speaker instead of Deb Bakker.

What are the world-wide principles for selecting the Speaker, especially when there is a minority government?

The world wide principles has always been a consensus candidate supported by at least 50% of the elected  members + 1. The  party with the plurality of the votes is more likely to secure the position by skillful and sincere negotiation with minority parties, where there is some give & take. Only the bird brains in the PPP would think and behave as if they have an automatic lock on such appointment.   

Check the situations, for example in Canada as one of the places, on how the Speaker was selected, especially for a minority government.

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Does Canada have one public sector radio station from which opposition parties are excluded? 

FM
Originally Posted by Mara:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Mara:

Very simple; if the idiots in the PPP had any brains between their collective ears, they would have realized that having failed to secure an absolute majority in Parliament, there is absolutely no way they could secured the Speakership without the support of one of the Opposition. Had they exhibited maturity & tactical savvy and support Nagamottoo for Speaker, there would have been no need for the AFC to make any deal with APNU and at least Ralph would have been the deputy Speaker instead of Deb Bakker.

What are the world-wide principles for selecting the Speaker, especially when there is a minority government?

The  world  wide  principles  has  always  been a consensus  candidate  supported  by  at  least 50%  of  the  elected  members   + 1.  The  party with  the  plurality  of the  votes  is  more  likely   to  secure  the position by  skillful and  sincere  negotiation with minority  parties, where  there  is some give  &  take. Only  the  bird brains in  the  PPP would think and  behave as  if  they  have an  automatic  lock  on such  appointment.   

It is also done by secret ballot -not by a show of hands.

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
  
Tuesday, 03 July 2012 22:12
HAVING read the sentiments expressed by Mr. Moses Nagamootoo and Mr. Khemraj Ramjattan of the AFC on the new found high regard they have for Mr. Ralph Ramkarran, they should now tell the nation why they ganged up against him with Mr. Granger and the APNU to deny him the speakership of the National Assembly. It is indeed a sad day for politics in Guyana as here is another glaring example of the behaviour of some of our politicians who, just a few months ago, felt that Mr. Ramkarran was not fit to preside over our National Assembly, but now describe him as a β€˜giant of a politician’.
Not that I do not agree with the distinguished achievements of the former Speaker, which is why I fully support the statement by the PPP today indicating that Mr. Ramkarran is a long-standing and highly respected member and he has made very valuable contributions to the party and the country as a whole.
I am also pleased that the party will continue to engage Mr. Ramkarran in further discussions to reconcile the matter.

 He stood to represent the PPP not himself.Further, now that he has come to his senses and taken the courageous step to look the horse in its mouth and say it has huge rotted eye teeth and is not the robust creature it is presented to be he gets kudos.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Your logic is not only questionable but naive, very naive.

That would be meaningful if you were aware that logic is about coherency in thinking, ie speaking of the truth and certitude of objects of knowledge solely as objects of knowledge. The only thing one is certain of is you present as an idiot.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

Check the situations, for example in Canada as one of the places, on how the Speaker was selected, especially for a minority government.

 I  do  not  have  to  check what  commonsense would  inform. Every  situation  is  different  when  ever/ where ever  there  is  a  minority   Government. There are Committees & Boards appointments  to  be made and  that  is  where  back  room  deals & horse  trading  are done  between   all  parties,  which  the  General  Public  are  not  preview  to.       

FM
Originally Posted by Mara:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

Check the situations, for example in Canada as one of the places, on how the Speaker was selected, especially for a minority government.

I do not have to check what commonsense would inform. Every situation is different when ever/ where ever there is a minority Government. There are Committees & Boards appointments to be made and that is where back room deals & horse trading are done between all parties, which the General Public are not preview to.       

Your explanations and world-wide government realities are divergent.

FM

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