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New government

By , July 26, 2015, Source

 

An assessment of how the new government has been performing would produce something of a mixed verdict. It was, of course, fairly extravagant in its pre-election promises to voters in relation to its first one hundred days in office, and considering that some of the more important pledges were contingent on the presentation of a budget, perhaps it was somewhat reckless too. The budget is due in the near future, however, and then the citizenry will discover to what extent the government has been able to adhere to some of its more important pre-poll undertakings.

 

While there are isolated areas where the administration appears to be performing well, in a general sense it seems to lack an overall sense of direction. There are, it is true, far too many ministries, not to mention a plethora of ministers, who seem to trespass without a second thought on one another’s turf. The net impression is one where the lines of responsibility have not been clearly drawn, and that a certain degree of muddle reigns. The situation is not helped if contradictory statements are made.

 

Mr Khemraj Ramjattan is the Minister of Public Security, but his space for manoeuvre to carry out his functions is circumscribed by others, both at a ministerial level, and more inexplicably at the level of a presidential advisor.

 

Just what, one wonders, was Presidential Advisor Edward Collins doing visiting Berbice and then pronouncing ministerial style on the security situation there, and the fact that the government would be reviving the Community Policing Groups (CPGs)? This, it might be noted, is after Minister Ramjattan had redirected new vehicles which the previous government had earmarked for the CPGs, to the Police Force.

 

Just what was Brigadier (rtd) Collins trying to do? Undermine the authority of the Minister? Sideline him? Or was it simply naivety, because he has always operated within a military context and was unfamiliar with the norms and protocols of civilian government? Ministers must be given the room to function, otherwise they will simply cease to perform; after all, what is the point of taking decisions if others in government are going to overrule them or disregard them? Effective government simply cannot be achieved that way.

 

And it is not as if Mr Ramjattan had not started off rather well, wasting no time in asking the Commissioner of Police to dismiss Corporal Mohanram Dolai who had been involved in the torture of a teenager on the West Coast, and announcing the implementation of the law with regard to the closure of bars, etc, at 2 am. As a hard-drinking society, the Minister came in for a great deal of flak for this one, with critics tilting at windmills by claiming there was no nexus between the commission of serious crimes like armed robbery and alcohol. That, however, was not presumably what Mr Ramjattan had in mind; what he had in mind were domestic violence and fatal accidents on the roads, and the links with alcohol consumption where those are concerned are not in dispute, either here or outside this country.

 

The political congnoscenti – not to mention the opposition, of course – have been watching very closely to see if the incumbents with military backgrounds are really adapting to the sometimes messy democratic culture of civilian life. Consultation and compromise are difficult habits to cultivate, and in all fairness, the previous government was simply not very good at them either. Brigadier Collins aside, what has been noticed is that Minister of the Presidency Joseph Harmon has slipped almost imperceptibly into the full role that Dr Roger Luncheon filled for the previous administration. He speaks on everything, albeit – if one may be permitted a reservation – with sometimes less grasp of his brief than the circumlocutory Doctor boasted.

 

But the military component of the government is not the main issue except as it feeds into a larger issue, namely, how a very fragile government can be held together and given an overall sense of direction. The temptation for elements in the PNC now they are in office within the context of a coalition, will be to ignore their ‘minor’ partners and push ahead with their own agenda, marginalizing the other party. If such thinking finds fertile ground among any of those who hold sway in the higher echelons of the organization, then this is extremely dangerous.

 

The PNCR is only back in office courtesy of those who voted for the AFC, and it cannot return to power in the next election – or a few after that ‒ on its own. Theoretically, of course, the AFC could bring this government down if relations reached their nadir, although responsible elements in that party would no doubt go to enormous lengths to avoid anything of that kind. However, the truth remains that if the PNCR alienates the AFC it will be a one-term government, and will confirm the opposition’s warnings about how the PNC treats coalition partners, as was demonstrated in the case of the United Force in 1968.

 

A coalition as fragile as this one will have to be worked at, and efforts made to ensure there is genuine dialogue, and most of all, that agreements are punctiliously adhered to. The public is not convinced that this is happening, more especially since there have already been deviations from the Cummingsburg Accord, among other things. As it is they run the danger of reviving a deep-rooted fear in some segments of the population, that no matter what is said to the contrary, the old PNC’s penchant for the authoritarian approach is still alive underneath the surface. At the very minimum lack of true debate within the coalition makes all the talk of inclusiveness meaningless. If you cannot include your partners, how will you include anyone else outside that framework?

 

As mentioned above, along with this sense of a lack of unity, goes a lack of a sense of direction. President David Granger, it is true, has been hit with some major issues which descended without warning: first the flooding, and more ominously, Venezuela. The flooding crisis has been handled admirably so far by Minister David Patterson, perhaps the star turn in the government, but the Venezuelan matter has required far more of the Head of State’s personal attention. He has, it is true, been travelling to conferences, summits and the like giving some admirable addresses, although one can only hope that he would hurry up and name an ambassador to Caracas, and get that embassy into some semblance of order to monitor what is happening next door, among other things.

 

That said, however, there is not a great sense that the President is in the process of welding together a cohesive team, all the members of which are pulling their oars in unison. Our presidency is not a ceremonial one, but an executive one, and even if he cannot manage the unwieldy cabinet he has created, he at least has to work closely with his major ministers, including those from the AFC and WPA to ensure consistency in policy, in addition to dealing with disaffection when it arises. Prior discussion and compromise may be a slower, more untidy process than the one to which the military is accustomed, but it is absolutely essential if this government is to survive.

 

No one expects a new government with no experience not to make mistakes when it starts out, and in this case, there are some very knotty problems to confront indeed. However, it is expected that this administration will be sensible, have its ear to the ground, not repeat mistakes it has made before, and make a serious effort to learn about best practices which it then would apply.

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While there are isolated areas where the administration appears to be performing well, in a general sense it seems to lack an overall sense of direction. There are, it is true, far too many ministries, not to mention a plethora of ministers, who seem to trespass without a second thought on one another’s turf. The net impression is one where the lines of responsibility have not been clearly drawn, and that a certain degree of muddle reigns. The situation is not helped if contradictory statements are made.

 

New government, By , July 26, 2015, Source

Ministers upon minister with, indeed, no sense of coordination and direction.

FM

 

Mr Khemraj Ramjattan is the Minister of Public Security, but his space for manoeuvre to carry out his functions is circumscribed by others, both at a ministerial level, and more inexplicably at the level of a presidential advisor.

 

Just what, one wonders, was Presidential Advisor Edward Collins doing visiting Berbice and then pronouncing ministerial style on the security situation there, and the fact that the government would be reviving the Community Policing Groups (CPGs)? This, it might be noted, is after Minister Ramjattan had redirected new vehicles which the previous government had earmarked for the CPGs, to the Police Force.

 

New government, By , July 26, 2015, Source

Nothing to wonder about, as the PNC cum AFC individuals are marching to different drummers.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

New government

By , July 26, 2015, Source

 

An assessment of how the new government has been performing would produce something of a mixed verdict. It was, of course, fairly extravagant in its pre-election promises [and post-election parties] to voters in relation to its first one hundred days in office...

 

While there are isolated areas [where?] where the administration appears to be performing well, in a general sense it seems to lack an overall sense of direction [clueless at best]. .... trespass without a second thought on one another’s turf [helter skelter]. .., and that a certain degree of muddle[muddy] reigns. The situation is not helped if contradictory statements are made.

 

Mr Khemraj Ramjattan is the Minister of Public Security, but his space for manoeuvre to carry out his functions is circumsized [true deh] bed by others, .

 

 the Community Policing Groups (CPGs) [spawning of new death squads?] This, it might be noted, is after Minister Ramjattan had redirected new vehicles which the previous government had earmarked for the CPGs, to the Police Force.

 

Just what was Brigadier (rtd) Collins [old unemployed] trying to do? Undermine the authority of the Minister? Sideline him? Or was it simply naivety, because he has always operated within a military context [military Govt] and was unfamiliar with the norms and protocols of [the deposed] civilian government? ....

 

And it is not as if Mr Ramjattan had not started off rather well [disaster?], wasting no time in asking the Commissioner of Police to dismiss Corporal Mohanram Dolai ... As a hard-drinking Minister, he came in for a great deal of flak for this one, with critics tilting at windmills [Don Quihote?] by claiming there was no nexus between the commission of serious crimes like armed robbery and alcohol. That, however, was not presumably what Mr Ramjattan had in mind; what he had in mind were domestic violence and fatal accidents on the roads, ....

 

The political congnoscenti – not to mention the opposition, of course – have been watching very closely to see if the incumbents with military backgrounds are really adapting to [no, Guyana adapting to military rule] the sometimes messy life. Consultation and compromise are [non existent], and in all fairness, the previous government was actually very good at that reactivated Brigadier Collins [cast]aside, what has been noticed is that Minister of the Presidency Joseph Harmon has slipped[up big time] almost imperceptibly into the full role that Dr Roger Luncheon filled for the previous administration. He speaks on everything, albeit – has no clue most of the time – with sometimes even less grasp of his brief than the circumsized Doctor boasted.

 

But the military-backed government is not the main issue except as it feeds into a larger issue, namely, how a very [incompetent] government can be cobbled together and given no sense of direction. The temptation for elements in the PNC now they are in office within the context of a [fake] coalition, will be to ignore their ‘pee-on’ partners and [push them aside and move] ahead with their own agenda, marginalizing the 49%. Such thinking does have fertile ground among those who hold sway in the higher echelons of the organization, this is extremely dangerous [dark clouds ahead].

 

The PNCR is only back in office courtesy of those who voted for the AFC, and it cannot return to power in the next election [says who, ask the GDF]. Theoretically, of course [stupidity], the AFC could bring this government down if relations reached their nadir [Manzoor still around?], although [ir]responsible elements in that party would no doubt go to any lengths to avoid anything [like what happened to the UF]. However, the [lie]truth remains that if the PNCR [cares less of] the AFC it will be a one-term [coalition] government, and will [continue as a military-backed] how the PNC treats coalition partners, as was demonstrated in the case of the United Force in 1968 [all wash and turn down].

 

A coalition as fake as this one will have to be worked at, and efforts make [it look] there is genuine dialogue, and most of all, that agreements are being punctiliously adhered to [continue fool the gullible]. The public is convinced that this is happening, more especially since there have already [effectively scrapped] the Cummingsburg Accord, [hint hint Chamberlain peace note from that bad boy]. As it is they run the danger of [have] reviveding a deep-rooted fear in the [majority] of the population, that no matter what is said to the contrary, the old PNC’s penchant for the authoritarian approach is still alive underneath the surface [bingo]. The lack of true debate within the coalition makes all the talk of inclusiveness meaningless [poppy cock]. If you cannot include your partners, how will you include anyone else outside that framework?

 

As mentioned above, along with this lack of unity [recognition], goes a [real] lack of a sense of direction. President David Granger, it is true, has been hit with some major issues which descended without warning: first the flooding, and more ominously, Venezuela. The flooding crisis has been handled miserably so far by Minister David Patterson, perhaps the falling star turn in the government, but the Venezuelan matter has required far more of the Head of State’s personal attention. He has, it is true, been traveling to conferences [kitchen too hot for the poor guy], summits and the like giving some admirable addresses, although one can only hope that he would hurry up and name an ambassador to Caracas, and get that embassy into some semblance of order [unlike the home front govt] to ponder what the hell Mad-uno up to next door, among other things [too complex to explain in words].

 

That said, however, there is not a great sense that the President is in the process of welding together a cohesive  team [is weh Minister of cohesion deh], all the members of which are [paddling up shit creek] in unison. Our presidency is now a ceremonial one, but an executive one [headed by the GDF], and he cannot manage the unwieldy cabinet he has created, he at best has to work closely with his majors, including those from the AFC [paper tiger] and WPA to ensure consistency in appearance policy, in addition to dealing with disaffection all around the land-mass. Prior discussion and compromise may be a [fruitless], very untidy process the military is accustomed, but it is absolutely essential if this government is to [keep up the smokescreen].

 

No one expects a new government with no experience [old very old recycled hags] not to make mistakes when it starts out [they grow senile and forgot their first 28 years pre-school], and in this [nut]case [situation], there are some very knotty [nutty?] problems to confront indeed. However, it is [hardly] expected that this administration will be sensible, have its [deaf] ear to the ground, repeat mistakes it has made before, and make a [less than] serious effort to [re]learn about best practices [and what it means] which it then would apply.

I tried my best to decode this shyte.  More truth in what's not said so I tried to say it.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

New government

By , July 26, 2015, Source

 

An assessment of how the new government has been performing would produce something of a mixed verdict. It was, of course, fairly extravagant in its pre-election promises and post-election parties to voters in relation to its first one hundred days in office...

 

While there are not even isolated areas where the administration appears to be performing well, in a general sense it seems to lack an overall sense of lack of direction [clueless at]. .... trespass without a second thought on one another’s turf [helter skelter]. .., and that a certain degree of muddy reigns. The situation is not helped if contradictory statements are made.

 

Mr Khemraj Ramjattan is the Minister of Public Security, but his space for manoeuvre to carry out his functions is circumsized [true deh] bed by others, .

 

 the Community Policing Groups (CPGs) [spawning of new death squads?] This, it might be noted, is after Minister Ramjattan had redirected new vehicles which the previous government had earmarked for the CPGs, to the Police Force.

 

Just what was Brigadier (rtd) Collins [unemployed] trying to do? Undermine the authority of the Minister? Sideline him? Or was it simply naivety, because he has always operated within a military Govt and was unfamiliar with the norms and protocols of the deposed civilian government? ....

 

And it is not as if Mr Ramjattan had not started off rather well [disaster?], wasting time in asking the Commissioner of Police to dismiss Corporal Mohanram Dolai ... As a hard-drinking Minister, he came in for a great deal of flak for this one, with critics charging at windmills [Don Quixote?] by claiming there was no nexus between the commission of serious crimes like armed robbery and alcohol. That, however, was not presumably what Mr Ramjattan had in mind; what he had in mind were domestic violence and fatal accidents on the roads, ....

 

The political congenials – not to mention the opposition, of course – have been watching very closely to see if the incumbents with military backgrounds are really adapting to Guyana defacto military rule, sometimes a messy life. Consultation and compromise are non existent, and in all fairness, the previous government was actually very good at that reactivated Brigadier Collins castaside, what has been noticed is that Minister of the Presidency Joseph Harmon has slipped-up big time almost imperceptibly into the full role that Dr Roger Luncheon filled for the previous administration. He speaks on everything, albeit – has no clue most of the time – with sometimes even less grasp of his brief than the circumsized Doctor boasted.

 

But the military-backed junta is the main issue except as it feeds into a larger issue, namely, how a very incompetent government can be cobbled together and given no sense of direction. The temptation for elements in the PNC now they are in office within the context of a non-coalition, will be to ignore their ‘pee-on’ partners and push them aside and move ahead with their own agenda, marginalizing the 50%+. Such thinking does have fertile ground among those who hold sway in the higher echelons of the regime, this is extremely dangerous [dark clouds ahead].

 

The PNCR is only back in office courtesy of those who voted for the AFC [oops Caribj], and it can now return to power in the next election with the GDF in tow]. Theoretically, of course , the AFC say they could bring this government down if relations reached their nadir [Manzoor still around?], although irresponsible elements in that party would no doubt go to any lengths to avoid anything like what happened to the UF. However, the truth remains that the PNCR [cares less of] the AFC threats it will be a one-term [coalition] government, but will continue as a military-backed junta, as was demonstrated in the case of the United Force in 1968 [all wash and turn down].

 

A non-coalition as this one will have to be worked at, and efforts make it appear there is genuine dialogue, and most of all, that agreements are being punctiliously adhered to. The public is convinced that this is happening, more especially since there have already effectively scrapped the Cummingsburg Accord, [hint hint Chamberlain peace note from that bad boy]. As it is they have revived a deep-rooted fear in the majority of the population, that no matter what is said to the contrary, the old PNC’s penchant for the authoritarian approach is still alive underneath the surface [bingo]. The lack of true debate within the coalition makes all the talk of inclusiveness meaningless [poppy cock]. If you cannot include your partners, how will you include anyone else outside that framework?

 

As mentioned above, along with this lack of recognition, goes a real lack of a sense of direction. President David Granger, it is true, has been hit with some major issues which descended without warning: first the flooding, and more ominously, Venezuela. The flooding crisis has been handled miserably so far by Minister David Patterson, perhaps the falling star turn in the government, but the Venezuelan matter has required far more of the Head of State’s personal attention. He has, it is true, been traveling to conferences [kitchen too hot for the poor guy], summits and the like giving some admirable addresses, although one can only hope that he would hurry up and name an ambassador to Caracas, and get that embassy into some semblance of order unlike the home front govt to ponder what the hell Mad-uno up to next door, among other things [too complex to put in words].

 

That said, however, there is not a great sense that the President is in the process of welding together a cohesive  team [is weh Minister of cohesion deh], all the members of which are paddling up shit creek in unison. Our presidency is now a ceremonial one, but an executive one [headed by the GDF], and he cannot manage the unwieldy cabinet he has created, he at best has to work closely with his majors, including those from the AFC [paper tiger] and WPA to ensure consistency in appearance policy, in addition to dealing with disaffection all around the land-mass. Prior discussion and compromise may be a [fruitless], very untidy process the military is accustomed, but it is absolutely essential if this government is to [keep up the smokescreen].

 

No one expects a new government with no experience [old very old recycled hags] not to make mistakes when it starts out [they grow senile and forgot their first 28 years pre-school], and in this [nut]case [situation], there are some very knotty [nutty?] problems to confront indeed. However, it is [hardly] expected that this administration will be sensible, have its [deaf] ear to the ground, repeat mistakes it has made before, and make a [less than] serious effort to [re]learn about best practices [and what it means] which it then would apply.

I tried my best to decode this shyte.  More truth in what's not said so I tried to say it.

 

FM

The Government is not focusing on the needs of the People.  The Infrastructure is being neglected and health care is becoming a problem.

These new Government ministers are not capable of governing.  There is no plan to create jobs in the manufacturing and agricultural sectors.

 

What can be done to save Guyana?  Bring back jagdeo?

R

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"Just what, one wonders, was Presidential Advisor Edward Collins doing visiting Berbice and then pronouncing ministerial style on the security situation there, and the fact that the government would be reviving the Community Policing Groups (CPGs)? This, it might be noted, is after Minister Ramjattan had redirected new vehicles which the previous government had earmarked for the CPGs, to the Police Force."

 

This is APNU's problem, too many Chiefs/Bosses. The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.

 

What a bunch of clowns !

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

The Government is not focusing on the needs of the People.  The Infrastructure is being neglected and health care is becoming a problem.

These new Government ministers are not capable of governing.  There is no plan to create jobs in the manufacturing and agricultural sectors.

 

What can be done to save Guyana?  

 

Guyana is in deep, deep Shyte under APNU. These clowns need to start governing.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Quote:

 

"Just what, one wonders, was Presidential Advisor Edward Collins doing visiting Berbice and then pronouncing ministerial style on the security situation there, and the fact that the government would be reviving the Community Policing Groups (CPGs)? This, it might be noted, is after Minister Ramjattan had redirected new vehicles which the previous government had earmarked for the CPGs, to the Police Force."

 

This is APNU's problem, too many Chiefs/Bosses. The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.

 

What a bunch of clowns !

Indeed, all chiefs wandering in yonder with little or no support.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

New government

By , July 26, 2015, Source

 

An assessment of how the new government has been performing would produce something of a mixed verdict. It was, of course, fairly extravagant in its pre-election promises [and post-election parties] to voters in relation to its first one hundred days in office..........

 

No one expects a new government with no experience [old very old recycled hags] not to make mistakes when it starts out [they grow senile and forgot their first 28 years pre-school], and in this [nut]case [situation], there are some very knotty [nutty?] problems to confront indeed. However, it is [hardly] expected that this administration will be sensible, have its [deaf] ear to the ground, repeat mistakes it has made before, and make a [less than] serious effort to [re]learn about best practices [and what it means] which it then would apply.

I tried my best to decode this shyte.  More truth in what's not said so I tried to say it.

You did not try. You put your racist slant on it of course. Black people cannot on any account be superior to an Indian even if the Indian was a chronic abusive, corrupt and truly hasty crook as the PPP.

 

The article was  fair with its concerns. It was also lacking in places and one can say it is because of being circumspect given it has been only a 100 days to unravel the awful mess the PPP left behind.

 

However, the article could have reference issues beyond the rather compilcated management model. Small, decisive and life quality enhancing and life  changing steps could have been be taken immediately with no increment of cost. A provisional warning could have beem sent out for all unregistered business ( those earning more than 4 thousand US a year for example) to immediately register of suffer serious penalties.  The same message should be sent out to businesses to get their taxes filed or make arrangements to have them filed within the first or second quarter or suffer heavy penalties. Every vehicle that is unregistered or uninspected would be seized if caught on the road. Every unlicensed driver suffer a penalty of a ban for 3 years to ever driving. A ban on music over 60 decibels in passenger vehicles and no noise over 140 in residential areas after 10PM with provisions for city life. These are but a few no financial input tasks they could have implemented and there are hundreds. I made a list of about 20 more serious life changing ones before the election that still exist somewhere on the site( again requiring none or little financial input)

 

We should already have known tentatively the status of the Marriott. Brazzington should be sitting in a room daily undergoing a drilling and none of the businesses under his charge remaining there. The Chinese logging company should be on notice and we should be seeking American Canadian and EU help to deploy a fishing fleet and coast guard resources. Mining should be fazed down until we have the capacity to police it among others.

FM
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Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

The Government is not focusing on the needs of the People.  The Infrastructure is being neglected and health care is becoming a problem.

These new Government ministers are not capable of governing.  There is no plan to create jobs in the manufacturing and agricultural sectors.

 

What can be done to save Guyana?  Bring back jagdeo?

All dem old hag PNCites want a quick hit at the cookie jar before even viagra becomes ineffective.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

The Government is not focusing on the needs of the People.  The Infrastructure is being neglected and health care is becoming a problem.

These new Government ministers are not capable of governing.  There is no plan to create jobs in the manufacturing and agricultural sectors.

 

What can be done to save Guyana?  Bring back jagdeo?

All dem old hag PNCites want a quick hit at the cookie jar before even viagra becomes ineffective.

If thievery is the prevailing paradigm....they need to be allowed to steal a bit so that the largess of the state is not accumulated in the hands of one ethnic group of crooks! You were not complaining much when the PPP was thieving us into the basement.

FM

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