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MPs to pursue jailing corrupt officials
December 11, 2011 | By KNews | Filed Under News

“It was barefaced thieving,”– Ramjattan

The Alliance for Change (AFC) along with the other Parliamentary Opposition party, A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) will be using its combined majority in the National Assembly to seek to push for the investigation, prosecution and subsequent incarceration of Public and Government officials found to have been guilty of corrupt practices and financial irregularities.
AFC Presidential Khemraj Ramjattan said that during the political campaign that his party had committed itself to having corrupt Government officials be held accountable. He said his party will work with APNU to push for some of the Parliamentary Standing Committees to investigate the actions of some of the Public and Government officials.
Ramjattan said that they will be using bodies such as the Economic Services Committee and the Public Accounts Committee among others where they can determine if enough evidence exists to have these persons prosecuted and should the Director of Public Prosecution Shalimar Ali-Hack fail to act in the face of evidence then private action will be taken against her as well.
Ramjattan said that one of the many issues that the parliamentary opposition would want to re-open is a proper investigation into the Colonial Life Insurance Company (CLICO Guyana) fallout.
Ramjattan is on record and was also upbraided by the Parliamentary Committee which was tasked with investigating the fallout but was later rendered useless according to him as they were only watered down to reading newspaper headlines of the fallout.
Ramjattan was upbraided by the then Committee Chairperson for speaking to the media at the time for venting his frustration at the role to which the committee was downgraded.
He said that there will also be an investigation into the transfer of the assets of Sanata Complex, Ruimveldt, to the present owners. Many of the actions leading to the transfer of the assets to Queens Atlantic International Inc. (QAII) are not clear.
Ramjattan spoke, too, of the matter involving the re-appointed Minister of Housing and Water Irfaan Ali against whom a prima facie case was made out for contempt of Parliament in relation to misleading the National Assembly on a $4B allocation.
That matter was never heard and according to Ramjattan died a slow death as the Ninth Parliament was dissolved thereby making it next to impossible to have the matter heard again.
Ramjattan posited that the parliamentarians in the opposition benches must also use their majority in the House to impress upon the populace that importance of and nexus between their impoverished state and its direct link to corruption.
He said that it is of paramount importance that the populace and electorate at large understand the link between their poverty and corruption.
Ramjattan was also adamant that they will be taking the Director of Public Prosecution Shalimar Ali-Hack to task for not undertaking criminal proceedings against public officials where there is enough evidence.
On Friday last the world observed World Anti-Corruption Day and United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon had advocated for the corrupt officials to be shamed. Ramjattan is adamant that they should be jailed.
During the Anti-Corruption seminar the Senior Coordinator of Transparency International, Zoe Reiter, had admonished that anti-corruption laws are meaningless if there is no enforcement.
Reiter when she made the pronouncement was at the time responding to Government Adviser Gail Teixeira, who was seeking clarification as to why some of the countries in the Region scored better than Guyana on the 2011 World Corruption Perception Index.
Guyana ranked 134 out of 183 countries analysed in the world by Transparency International and scored 2.5 out of 10 with zero being the worst.
Corruption continues to plague too many countries around the world, according to Transparency International’s 2011 Corruption Perceptions Index on December 1.
“It shows some governments failing to protect citizens from corruption, be it abuse of public resources, bribery or secretive decision-making.”
Transparency International warned that protests around the world, often fuelled by corruption and economic instability, clearly show citizens feel their leaders and public institutions are neither transparent nor accountable enough.
“This year we have seen corruption on protestors’ banners be they rich or poor. Whether in a Europe hit by debt crisis or an Arab world starting a new political era, leaders must heed the demands for better government,” said Huguette Labelle, Chair of Transparency International.
Reiter in her recent presentation did caution that making significant inroads in the fight against corruption will take time and advised that corruption is a non-partisan problem that will require non-partisan solutions.
She cautioned, also, that corruption was at the root of all of the major upheavals across the world in 2011. Reiter added, “Government cannot tackle corruption with symbolic gestures.”

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I do support the AFC's stance regarding the raping of national assets, bribery and corruption. A stand with the APNU here is perfectly in order. This was one key element of what we wanted and why many abandond the PPP for the AFC. I believe many supporters, even those with 2nd thoughts, will stand behind this.
FM
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Originally posted by baseman:
I do support the AFC's stance regarding the raping of national assets, bribery and corruption. A stand with the APNU here is perfectly in order. This was one key element of what we wanted and why many abandond the PPP for the AFC. I believe many supporters, even those with 2nd thoughts, will stand behind this.


Ah wonder whah dem PPP dogs will do in response?
FM
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Originally posted by JoKer:
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Originally posted by baseman:
I do support the AFC's stance regarding the raping of national assets, bribery and corruption. A stand with the APNU here is perfectly in order. This was one key element of what we wanted and why many abandond the PPP for the AFC. I believe many supporters, even those with 2nd thoughts, will stand behind this.


Ah wonder whah dem PPP dogs will do in response?

It may verywell work to the advantage of Ramotar as it gives him leverage to clean house and come back 2016 and take 62% at the polls, compliments of the AFC and APNU. Blessing come in many different forms bai, the sheep in wolves' clothing. Wink
FM
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Originally posted by baseman:
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Originally posted by JoKer:
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Originally posted by baseman:
I do support the AFC's stance regarding the raping of national assets, bribery and corruption. A stand with the APNU here is perfectly in order. This was one key element of what we wanted and why many abandond the PPP for the AFC. I believe many supporters, even those with 2nd thoughts, will stand behind this.


Ah wonder whah dem PPP dogs will do in response?

It may verywell work to the advantage of Ramotar as it gives him leverage to clean house and come back 2016 and take 62% at the polls, compliments of the AFC and APNU. Blessing come in many different forms bai, the sheep in wolves' clothing. Wink


Ramotar cannot possibly do as you say. If he does, I'd be astonished. But I doubt the muddy zebra can change his stripes particularly with Jagdeo calling the shots.
FM
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Originally posted by JoKer:
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Originally posted by baseman:
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Originally posted by JoKer:
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Originally posted by baseman:
I do support the AFC's stance regarding the raping of national assets, bribery and corruption. A stand with the APNU here is perfectly in order. This was one key element of what we wanted and why many abandond the PPP for the AFC. I believe many supporters, even those with 2nd thoughts, will stand behind this.


Ah wonder whah dem PPP dogs will do in response?

It may verywell work to the advantage of Ramotar as it gives him leverage to clean house and come back 2016 and take 62% at the polls, compliments of the AFC and APNU. Blessing come in many different forms bai, the sheep in wolves' clothing. Wink


Ramotar cannot possibly do as you say. If he does, I'd be astonished. But I doubt the muddy zebra can change his stripes particularly with Jagdeo calling the shots.

JoKer, I would say, don't underestimate the PPP boys. They may be bad at some things, but they are good strategists and tactisheners. These boys are clever. Nagamootoo caught them flat-footed, but his aura has dimmed. Their principle aim is to navigate to 2016 without triggering a constitutional crisis.
FM
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Originally posted by baseman:

JoKer, I would say, don't underestimate the PPP boys. They may be bad at some things, but they are good strategists and tactisheners. These boys are clever. Nagamootoo caught them flat-footed, but his aura has dimmed. Their principle aim is to navigate to 2016 without triggering a constitutional crisis.


I absolutely agree with you that the PPP has good political strategists and tactitioners. A constitutional crisis is inevitable with a Parliament bent on prosecuting Executive branch officials for corruption.

Ramotar is in a tough position....throw certain officials to the dogs or precipitate a showdown with an elected Parliament.

Virtually every high government official is tainted by corruption. Think Ramotar will throw his whole Cabinet under the bus?
FM
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Originally posted by JoKer:
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Originally posted by baseman:

JoKer, I would say, don't underestimate the PPP boys. They may be bad at some things, but they are good strategists and tactisheners. These boys are clever. Nagamootoo caught them flat-footed, but his aura has dimmed. Their principle aim is to navigate to 2016 without triggering a constitutional crisis.


I absolutely agree with you that the PPP has good political strategists and tactitioners. A constitutional crisis is inevitable with a Parliament bent on prosecuting Executive branch officials for corruption.

Ramotar is in a tough position....throw certain officials to the dogs or precipitate a showdown with an elected Parliament.

Virtually every high government official is tainted by corruption. Think Ramotar will throw his whole Cabinet under the bus?

Don't think he will or need to, but the PPP could "deploy" few tainted ones and diffuse the issue, let it drag to 2016. If the PPP sees a constitutional crisis triggering a new election, they will very well enhance the process and do in 2013.
FM
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Originally posted by baseman:
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Originally posted by JoKer:
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Originally posted by baseman:

JoKer, I would say, don't underestimate the PPP boys. They may be bad at some things, but they are good strategists and tactisheners. These boys are clever. Nagamootoo caught them flat-footed, but his aura has dimmed. Their principle aim is to navigate to 2016 without triggering a constitutional crisis.


I absolutely agree with you that the PPP has good political strategists and tactitioners. A constitutional crisis is inevitable with a Parliament bent on prosecuting Executive branch officials for corruption.

Ramotar is in a tough position....throw certain officials to the dogs or precipitate a showdown with an elected Parliament.

Virtually every high government official is tainted by corruption. Think Ramotar will throw his whole Cabinet under the bus?

Don't think he will or need to, but the PPP could "deploy" few tainted ones and diffuse the issue, let it drag to 2016. If the PPP sees a constitutional crisis triggering a new election, they will very well enhance the process and do in 2013.


Don't be quite in such a hurry to pontificate that early elections will return the PPP to power with an absolute majority.

There may be some criminal revelations in the United States District Court for the Eastern District that may damning.

Ask one of the principal witnesses for the prosecution on GNI. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Where's our "creative" mudhead? Big Grin Big Grin
FM
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
I do support the AFC's stance regarding the raping of national assets, bribery and corruption. A stand with the APNU here is perfectly in order. This was one key element of what we wanted and why many abandond the PPP for the AFC. I believe many supporters, even those with 2nd thoughts, will stand behind this.


I would rather c them tackle issues taht affects the lives of the average citizens of Guyana.

Vehicle insurance should be reduced considerably. Government officials ripped the citizens off, however the insurance companies and brokers do much more stealing daily.

Amerindian issues should be dealt with immediately. A study must be done to indicate what services are provided for them. Improved and new ones must implemented. The Amerindians must be recruited for a special branch of the military.

It is important to stop the thieves from stealing and then go after the loot they have accumulated by ill gotten gains.

To chase Jagdeo gang of Ali Baba will take long time to accomplish. However, new polocies will go over much more easier.
S
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Originally posted by seignet:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
I do support the AFC's stance regarding the raping of national assets, bribery and corruption. A stand with the APNU here is perfectly in order. This was one key element of what we wanted and why many abandond the PPP for the AFC. I believe many supporters, even those with 2nd thoughts, will stand behind this.


I would rather c them tackle issues taht affects the lives of the average citizens of Guyana.

Vehicle insurance should be reduced considerably. Government officials ripped the citizens off, however the insurance companies and brokers do much more stealing daily.

Amerindian issues should be dealt with immediately. A study must be done to indicate what services are provided for them. Improved and new ones must implemented. The Amerindians must be recruited for a special branch of the military.

It is important to stop the thieves from stealing and then go after the loot they have accumulated by ill gotten gains.

To chase Jagdeo gang of Ali Baba will take long time to accomplish. However, new polocies will go over much more easier.

They will do, these are operational issues. As for BJ's gang, don't count on it, BJ is the Putin of Guyana. He will be more powerful in retirement than as president. BJ will be with us for a long long time, the guardian of the PPP flank.
FM
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Originally posted by JoKer:
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Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by JoKer:
I absolutely agree with you that the PPP has good political strategists and tactitioners. A constitutional crisis is inevitable with a Parliament bent on prosecuting Executive branch officials for corruption.

Ramotar is in a tough position....throw certain officials to the dogs or precipitate a showdown with an elected Parliament.

Virtually every high government official is tainted by corruption. Think Ramotar will throw his whole Cabinet under the bus?

Don't think he will or need to, but the PPP could "deploy" few tainted ones and diffuse the issue, let it drag to 2016. If the PPP sees a constitutional crisis triggering a new election, they will very well enhance the process and do in 2013.


Don't be quite in such a hurry to pontificate that early elections will return the PPP to power with an absolute majority.

There may be some criminal revelations in the United States District Court for the Eastern District that may damning.

Ask one of the principal witnesses for the prosecution on GNI. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Where's our "creative" mudhead? Big Grin Big Grin

Come on, which voter really cares, PNC had killers, rapists and thieves and enjoy massive support. No one cares of this, Guyana is an ethnic security, not an issues country.
Charles Rangal and the Brooklyn bunch will have little or no sway.
FM
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Originally posted by JoKer:
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Originally posted by Alexander:
Will they be going after Jagdeo?


Jagdeo has lifetime immunity for anything done in the period of his 12 years in office. Even murder!


The parliament can repeal that immunity but will the PPP also support that repeal?
FM
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Originally posted by HM_Redux:
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Originally posted by JoKer:
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Originally posted by Alexander:
Will they be going after Jagdeo?


Jagdeo has lifetime immunity for anything done in the period of his 12 years in office. Even murder!


The parliament can repeal that immunity but will the PPP also support that repeal?


Or could there be a referandum?
Mitwah
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Originally posted by HM_Redux:
PPP has no honor they will continue along the lines of illegality and criminality, they are unable to cleanse themselves. This is a pipedream baseman.

That was not what I said or implied in anyway! They will conveniently difuse and defer until 2016.
FM
The AFC has a unique opportunity to be the agent of change and to change the policitical landscape. This for me is a game changer. For the frst time we have a viable 3rd option for people to consider. They have to use this this opportunity to demonstrate that they are different and worthy of peoples vote and to garner mass support in the next elections. A good first step is to hold the govt feet to the fire while distancing themselves from the idealogy of the APNU & PPP. How well they do is dependent on how they conduct themselves and strategize to connect with the Guyanese people of all ethnicity.
FM
Ramjattan sold his duty free concessions and pocketed the money.

Ramjattan cannot initiate any investigations of his own. The police force is corrupt. The Civil service is also corrupt. The judiciary is suspect.. Felix is a known associate with Roger khan..
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Ramjattan sold his duty free concessions and pocketed the money.

Ramjattan cannot initiate any investigations of his own. The police force is corrupt. The Civil service is also corrupt. The judiciary is suspect.. Felix is a known associate with Roger khan..


You need to stop tanning so much bai...look whats happening to you: Big Grin Big Grin

FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Ramjattan sold his duty free concessions and pocketed the money.

Ramjattan cannot initiate any investigations of his own. The police force is corrupt. The Civil service is also corrupt. The judiciary is suspect.. Felix is a known associate with Roger khan..


Rama, you have identified the problem. Now what is the solution?
FM
There certainly is a crying need for an investigation into all aspects of corruption in Guyana. There are too many crooks walking free and too many innocent citizens have had their reputations besmirched. The truth needs to be nknown and let the chips fall where they may.

It would be interesting to observe how the PPP legislators react to the enabling legislation. Would they insist that such an investigation include the excesses of the Burnham/Hoyte administrations? The pillaging and looting of GAIBANK, the Cooperative Bank and other State entities come to mind. Interesting days are ahead.
FM
We'll then find out how rich Guyana really is.

The "populace" (albert's fav word) might learn that their country has nuff nuff dollars for services, 'cept it's in the pockets of several all of a sudden rich persons.
cain
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Originally posted by Errol Arthur:

There certainly is a crying need for an investigation into all aspects of corruption in Guyana.


An independent one starting from, at least, in January 1965 to include all politicians from all political parties.
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Errol Arthur:

There certainly is a crying need for an investigation into all aspects of corruption in Guyana.


An independent one starting from, at least, in January 1965 to include all politicians from all political parties.



It has to start where leads are fresh (the recent govt) After receiving monies owed, which is a given, the country can then afford to go back how ever long it wants.
cain
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Originally posted by cain:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Errol Arthur:

There certainly is a crying need for an investigation into all aspects of corruption in Guyana.


An independent one starting from, at least, in January 1965 to include all politicians from all political parties.


It has to start where leads are fresh (the recent govt) After receiving monies owed, which is a given, the country can then afford to go back how ever long it wants.


It must deal with all; including politicians; from 1965 to present.

Hence, a separate independent commission to undertake the work.
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Errol Arthur:

There certainly is a crying need for an investigation into all aspects of corruption in Guyana.


An independent one starting from, at least, in January 1965 to include all politicians from all political parties.

Amen. Additionally, once the floodgates are opened how about pursuing the murderers of Walter Rodney and others. Where would Rupert Roopnaraine and the WPA contingent stand on this? Interesting days days are ahead!
FM
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Originally posted by Errol Arthur:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Errol Arthur:

There certainly is a crying need for an investigation into all aspects of corruption in Guyana.


An independent one starting from, at least, in January 1965 to include all politicians from all political parties.

Amen. Additionally, once the floodgates are opened how about pursuing the murderers of Walter Rodney and others. Where would Rupert Roopnaraine and the WPA contingent stand on this? Interesting days days are ahead!


The PPP said they were going to investigate in 1992. They never did.
S
Look, there is nothing wrong in having a Commission of Inquiry to investigate political crimes such as rigging and related murder/mayhem - going back to the 1940's if you like . . .

Understanding the practical challenges of such a commission, you corrupt PPP smartmen on GNI insist on a single, all encompassing, investigation to gum up the works and shield your favorite Gov't ministers and vampiric NEPS friends who stole UNPRECEDENTED sums these past dozen years, and continue to gorge themselves . . . their bloody teeth firmly clamped on the collective neck of long suffering, ordinary Guyanese.

TRANSPARENT and DISGUSTING!
FM
Start with investigating ALL as of present.

Then when finished with the current batch of crooks investigate going all the way back to Judas and Christ. And place DEPENDS_GUY in charge of this.
FM
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Start with investigating ALL as of present.

Then when finished with the current batch of crooks investigate going all the way back to Judas and Christ. And place DEPENDS_GUY in charge of this.

i agree
FM
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by seignet:
The Amerindians must be recruited for a special branch of the military.

WHY . . .?!


Archers and longbow branch.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Ramjattan sold his duty free concessions and pocketed the money.

Ramjattan cannot initiate any investigations of his own. The police force is corrupt. The Civil service is also corrupt. The judiciary is suspect.. Felix is a known associate with Roger khan..


Ramjattan sold his car to Zulphicar mustafa of mutt and jeff fame. This was the recommendation by Bharat jagdeo himself who asked Ramjattan and other MP's to sell their cars cheap to other Kamerades.

Mutt right after qualified for duty free concessions and sold the car for twice what he paid for it. hahahahhahahah go and talk to Jaghole about that.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Start with investigating ALL as of present.

Then when finished with the current batch of crooks investigate going all the way back to Judas and Christ. And place DEPENDS_GUY in charge of this.


flag
FM
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Originally posted by redux:
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Start with investigating ALL as of present.

Then when finished with the current batch of crooks investigate going all the way back to Judas and Christ. And place DEPENDS_GUY in charge of this.

i agree


Agree 100% prioritize the present dont worry wid dem PNC soupies who now playing saints on GNI, dem buckta gat nuff nuff PNC stain inside.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
I do support the AFC's stance regarding the raping of national assets, bribery and corruption. A stand with the APNU here is perfectly in order. This was one key element of what we wanted and why many abandond the PPP for the AFC. I believe many supporters, even those with 2nd thoughts, will stand behind this.


flag
FM
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Originally posted by seignet:
quote:
Originally posted by Errol Arthur:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Errol Arthur:

There certainly is a crying need for an investigation into all aspects of corruption in Guyana.


An independent one starting from, at least, in January 1965 to include all politicians from all political parties.

Amen. Additionally, once the floodgates are opened how about pursuing the murderers of Walter Rodney and others. Where would Rupert Roopnaraine and the WPA contingent stand on this? Interesting days days are ahead!


The PPP said they were going to investigate in 1992. They never did.


Should they investigate the murder of dolly Baksh?
FM

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