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New Surinam Airways flight to Miami boosts Guyana market

Posted on 19th January, 2012 1:43 PM
Source - Centre for Aviation

The Guyana market will see a major capacity boost in April when the small South American country receives only its fourth international carrier, Surinam Airways. The flag carrier of neighbouring Suriname will link Guyana's Georgetown with Suriname's Paramaribo and, more importantly, Miami. The Miami-Georgetown service, which will begin on 02-Apr-2012, will be the first service connecting the two cities non-stop in over a decade.

Surinam Airways’ new Miami-Georgetown flights will operate twice weekly on Tuesdays and Saturdays with Boeing 737-300s. Flights will then continue onto the carrier’s main base, Paramaribo’s Johan Adolf Pengel International Airport.

While only two weekly flights, the new Miami-Georgetown route represents a significant boost in scheduled, non-stop capacity between the US and Guyana. Currently Guyana only has non-stop, scheduled service to the US from Delta Air Lines, which operates service from New York JFK on a highly variable schedule depending on the season. Delta launched the route in Jul-2008, filling a void left by North American Airlines which operated scheduled services between New York JFK and Georgetown from Sep-2007 to May-2008.

Georgetown Cheddi Jagan Airport weekly capacity share by carrier (seats): 16-Jan-2012 to 22-Jan-2012

Source: CAPA – Centre for Aviation, Innovata & GDS


Delta’s current Georgetown schedule of four weekly Boeing 757-200 flights provides 1,440 weekly seats and accounts for almost 9% of total international capacity in Guyana. Surinam Airways will provide an additional 504 weekly seats between Guyana and the US, a 35% increase based on Delta maintaining its current four times per week schedule. Delta and Surinam Airways will largely target different markets given Delta's service to New York requires significant backtracking for passengers wanting to travel to Miami, another locale for the Guyanese diaspora.

While Delta is currently the only carrier operating scheduled non-stop flights in the US-Guyana market, Surinam Airways will face stiff competition in the market from the largest airline serving Guyana, Caribbean Airlines. Caribbean Airlines does not offer non-stop service between Georgetown and the US, but it does offer a daily, same-plane service via Port of Spain to Miami and New York JFK.


Trinidad-based Caribbean Airlines dominates Guyana market

Caribbean Airlines’ dominance and strong position in the Guyana market, where it currently accounts for 71% of total capacity, can make it difficult for Surinam Airways to compete. Surinam Airways will need to leverage the advantage of a non-stop flight to South Florida, which just might give the small airline the boost necessary to be successful in the Guyana market. Surinam Airways might also be able to leverage interline opportunities via Miami, as the afternoon arrival and departures from Miami will allow Georgetown passengers to make a variety of connections to/from North America and Europe. Surinam Airways interline partners that already serve Miami include Air France, Delta Air Lines and Transaero.

The new Surinam Airways service will also represent the only link between Georgetown’s Cheddi Jagan International Airport and any another airport in South America. Small Guyanese carrier TransGuyana currently operates a link between Georgetown’s smaller Ogel Airport and Paramaribo’s smaller Zorg en Hoop Airport. Georgetown-Paramaribo is TransGuyana’s only international route, which it currently serves with 10 weekly flights in each direction.

TransGuyana is primarily a domestic carrier, operating 13-seat Cessna Grand Caravans and nine-seat Britten Norman Islanders. As a result, Caribbean Airlines is seen as Guyana’s de facto flag carrier. Caribbean Airlines operates 39 weekly Boeing 737-800s flights from Georgetown, including 36 flights to Port of Spain and three flights to Bridgetown in Barbados, according to Innovata data. At Port of Spain, quick connections on Caribbean Airlines are available throughout the Caribbean and North America and via foreign carriers to North America as well as to Panama and Europe.

Between Georgetown and Bridgetown, Caribbean Airlines competes against archrival LIAT, which operates two daily Bombardier Dash 8 turboprop flights on the route, and low-cost carrier REDjet, which operates four weekly flights on the route with Boeing MD-80s. Connections at Bridgetown are available throughout the Caribbean as well as on foreign carriers to Europe and North America.

REDjet also competes with Caribbean Airlines on the Georgetown-Port of Spain route, but only offers three weekly MD-80s flights. REDjet, which is based in Barbados, also operates one weekly MD80 flight from Georgetown to Antigua.


Guyana and Suriname have strong ties to the Caribbean

A former British colony that gained independence from Britain in 1966, English-speaking Guyana is more closely connected with Caribbean nations than its South American neighbours. Guyana is a member of, and Georgetown is the headquarters for, the Caribbean Community and Common Market (CARICOM). Given its closer economic and cultural ties to the Caribbean rather than the continent on which it lies, the current lack of flight links to the rest of South America is not surprising.

Georgetown Cheddi Jagan Airport weekly capacity by region (seats): 16-Jan-2012 to 22-Jan-2012

Source: CAPA – Centre for Aviation, Innovata & GDS


The new Surinam Airways service at Georgetown also allows the Suriname flag carrier to increase its offering on the one-stop Paramaribo-Miami route from thrice weekly to five times per week. Surinam Airways will continue to operate to Miami via Aruba on Monday, Wednesday and Friday after the new flights via Georgetown are added.

There are currently no non-stop services linking Surinam with the US. Paramaribo is currently served from several Caribbean destinations and from Amsterdam in the Netherlands, Belem in northern Brazil and Georgetown. The small number of flights within Latin America for Paramaribo is not surprising as Suriname is also a member of CARICOM. Guyana and Suriname are the only South American members of CARICOM, which also consists of 13 countries in the Caribbean.

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Originally posted by Kari:
Whatever happened to the Meta airlines flight from GT to Paramaribo en route to Boa Vista?


Their website is a mess and its very hard to book on them.
FM
I heard Jagdeo was hoping to replace the Guyana flag carrier(Guyana Airways)that would provide direct flight from the US and Canada to Guyana. Will President Ramotar continue where Jagdeo left off?
FM
When are we gong to get some REAL AIRLINES to travel to GT?? Upgrade the system so we can be a category 1 country and then maybe British Air, Virgin Atl, Jet Blue, American etc. Can start flying to GT and we can lower some of these ticket prices.
FM
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Originally posted by ABIDHA:
I heard Jagdeo was hoping to replace the Guyana flag carrier(Guyana Airways)that would provide direct flight from the US and Canada to Guyana. Will President Ramotar continue where Jagdeo left off?
how he will do that,with a flying carpet,first you have to get landing rights in north america,and with the amount of drugs that will be on a government airline the first flight they will close down.rohee himself will put cocain on the flight.the man is the biggest drug lord in guyana,ask manieram how he buy palmcourt
FM
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Originally posted by dutch357:
When are we gong to get some REAL AIRLINES to travel to GT?? Upgrade the system so we can be a category 1 country and then maybe British Air, Virgin Atl, Jet Blue, American etc. Can start flying to GT and we can lower some of these ticket prices.


Who is we?? The GOG is not preventing any of the "real" airlines to do business in Guyana. Airlines analyze the market and do a cost benefit study before plunging into doing business anywhere. Right now Delta is the big dog and has the ability to outwait the competitors. No other big outfit will challenge Delta in Guyana because there is not enough volume going to the nation to support more than one big carrier.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by dutch357:
When are we gong to get some REAL AIRLINES to travel to GT?? Upgrade the system so we can be a category 1 country and then maybe British Air, Virgin Atl, Jet Blue, American etc. Can start flying to GT and we can lower some of these ticket prices.


Jetblue lacks planes with the range to get to GEO. BA isnt interested and neither is AA. AC is talking but then they have for many years and not too long ago canceled service to POS.

Understand that these days airlines demand subsidies to fly "nontraditional" routes. I dont think Guyana will do this.

And with Guyana allowing fly by nites (EZjet being the latest) to dilute yield this also doesnt help.

Note that Guyana is considered a "lost country" along with the other two Guianas.
FM
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:


Who is we?? The GOG is not preventing any of the "real" airlines to do business in Guyana. Airlines analyze the market and do a cost benefit study before plunging into doing business anywhere. Right now Delta is the big dog and has the ability to outwait the competitors. No other big outfit will challenge Delta in Guyana because there is not enough volume going to the nation to support more than one big carrier.


Absolutely correct. In the future only talk about what you have knowledge of and then we will not have to be always laughing at you.

Note that as of now CAL beats Delta into GEO ex JFK...I think with around 55% market sahre. maybe lower prices, more flights and more liberal baggage policies.
FM
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Originally posted by caribj:
I think with around 55% market sahre. maybe lower prices, more flights and more liberal baggage policies.

What sort of economics did you study? I suggest that you take a refresher course.
The cost of planes, maintenance, landing costs, fuel, etc have gone up. So where are these lower prices going to come from? Even if there were 1000 passengers a day going through Timehri it wouldn't be enough to charge less AND allow more baggage. If people want to ship more goods by plane, the passenger aircraft service is certainly not the most efficient way to do it. Bums on the seats pay the running cost, not luggage in holes.
Let's face it: those Guyanese who want to come to Guyana can afford it. They managed to find the money to leave, which in just about every case would have been far more than what it would cost them to take a flight to Guyana. The airline operators are not charity workers. So why should they take a financial hit so that an emigrant can come on holiday?
Mr.T
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Originally posted by Mr.T:
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Originally posted by caribj:
I think with around 55% market sahre. maybe lower prices, more flights and more liberal baggage policies.

What sort of economics did you study? ?


Maybe you need to read. My comments addressed why CAL has more market share on the JFK GEO even though they dont fly nonstop. If they allow both bags to be free, charge slightly less than Delta (fares to GEO are much higher than to POS), and so snatch passengers without having to offer nonstops they are ahead of their game.

They gain market share in a high yield market (GEO) to offset the lower yields into POS. And yes, withourt offering GEO JFK nonstops so they can pickup all their northbound fuel in POS where it is cheaper than in GEO. AND they can screen the JFK bound plane when it reaches POS as no one trusts GEO personnel not to put drugs on the plane.

BTW Delta and CAL both are 50 lbs two bags so, no its not to encourage more baggage. Its to get more market share. Passengers will take their two bags regardless of which airline they use.
FM
I read what you wrote, and pointed out the foolishness behind your thinking. This is the airline industry we talking about. Running costs of such an operation is horrendous. Only when you have several planes can you think about a decent return. Many operators have attempted to make money out of the flights from Guyana or Suriname. The failure rate must be running at 95% or more. Why? Because the income was less than the running costs in the majority of cases. There are not enough Guyanese rich enough to afford the cost of a visa and a ticket to the US. So the route is mainly used by visiting Guyanese, who can afford the high price. Is pure nonsense to say the ticket price is high. And when they want to carry more luggage, they can afford to pay for it too. I never met a poor Guyanese who was thinking of buying a ticket to Guyana.
Mr.T
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Originally posted by Mr.T:
I read what you wrote, and pointed out the foolishness behind your thinking. This is the airline industry we talking about..


You are running your mouth to make a point.

1. You say that bums in seats is what carries revenue. So CAL gets MORE bums in seats by offering 2 free bags and charges maybe US$50 less.

2. They gain market share into a route where they can charge US$600, vs the US$400 that they can get away with into POS. So then fares into GEO are high relative to those into POS (Trinis seem to be more price sensitive than GUyanese and will jump on AA via Miami if its cheaper).

So who is the idiot? CAL for figuring out that they could get more business into a higher fare market w/o the expense of running a nonstop? By giving up $25 on the second bag which they more than make up by getting a Guyanese to use them instead of flying Delta. And running 2x daily flights when there is no way that GEo could support that if the flights were nonstop. Thereby giving people more flexibility than Delta's 4X week flights do.

You can barf a smuch as you wnat to but they have more market share when rational thinking would suggest that Delta would, being the only scheduled nonstop to GEO from JFK.

BTW if delta charges $650 CAL charges $600 so its not a big difference there, but enough to pull the more price sensitive group. Most NY based Guyanese are working and lower middle class people struggling to pay their bills.
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
What is your problem, CaribJ? Don't you like to see Indians prosper. What about the half Indian in you? Are you going to beat up yourself??


What rant are you on?
FM
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
What is your problem, CaribJ? Don't you like to see Indians prosper. What about the half Indian in you? Are you going to beat up yourself??


What rant are you on?


You didn't answer my question.

Are you going to be negative about everything progressive?
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
What is your problem, CaribJ? Don't you like to see Indians prosper. What about the half Indian in you? Are you going to beat up yourself??


What rant are you on?


You didn't answer my question.

Are you going to be negative about everything progressive?


I repeat what rant are you on. I see nothing about Indians in this.

You know some think you are an alcoholic. I think you are a drug addict.
FM

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