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Nine dead across three linked crime scenes in Edmonton area, police say

Edmonton murders linked, may include children

Postmedia News and Canadian Press | December 30, 2014 | Last Updated: Dec 30 5:14 PM ET, Source - National Post

 

Police investigate a scene where a car rammed an RCMP truck and damaged restaurant in Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta on Tuesday December 30, 2014. The scene is said to be related to multiple deaths that occurred in a north Edmonton home overnight.

Police investigate a scene where a car rammed an RCMP truck and damaged restaurant in Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta on Tuesday December 30, 2014. The scene is said to be related to multiple deaths that occurred in a north Edmonton home overnight.

 

EDMONTON — Nine people have been killed at three separate but linked crime scenes in Edmonton and Fort Saskatchewan, numerous sources say. Police have confirmed that two of the victims were children.

 

Police are currently on scene at a “multiple homicide scene” in north Edmonton and a Vietnamese restaurant in Fort Saskatchewan. The scene is also linked to another homicide scene in south Edmonton, where a woman in her 30s was found dead Monday night.

 

The connection the incidents was officially confirmed by police late Tuesday in a release.

 

“Units from all over the city are involved. The RCMP is involved as well,” police spokesman Scott Pattison said Tuesday.

 

Downtown Fort Saskatchewan was completely blocked off Tuesday morning, while the RCMP Major Crimes Unit assisted the Edmonton Police Service in an Edmonton-based homicide investigation.

 

Fort Saskatchewan’s downtown core was reopened to pedestrian and vehicle traffic around 10 a.m., police said, but a heavy police presence surrounded VN Express, a Vietnamese restaurant near 102 Street and 100 Avenue. The restaurant is surrounded by police tape, with windows smashed and front doors broken down. The open sign is still flashing. Forensics officers could be seen entering the restaurant with evidence tags.

 

Laurie, an employee at Auntie Sue’s Restaurant across VN Express, said she heard a commotion outside the restaurant at 6:30 a.m. She saw a heavy police presence, including a SWAT team, a robot and a police dog. An officer yelled through a megaphone to someone inside the restaurant, telling them to “Come out with your hands up.”

 

Video thumbnail for Raw: Police investigate homicide scene in north Edmonton

 

The woman didn’t see or hear anyone respond. Police then rammed a police vehicle through the front of the restaurant.

 

Neither EPS or RCMP could be reached for comment on the evolving situation Tuesday morning, but said more information would be released as it became available.

 

Fort Saskatchewan RCMP advised residents early Tuesday morning that all roads to the downtown core had been blocked off and no access would be permitted until further notice. Around 9:30 a.m., RCMP issued an ‘all clear’ and barricades had been removed, the City of Fort Saskatchewan tweeted.

 

Police could not confirm whether the investigation in Fort Saskatchewan is related to a “multiple homicide scene” currently under investigation in north Edmonton.

 

Shaughn Butts/Edmonton Journal
Shaughn Butts/Edmonton Journal
Edmonton police investigating the deaths of at least two
people in a house near 180 avenue and 83 Street.
 

Police were called around 8:30 p.m. Monday night to a home in the Klaarvatten neighbourhood, near 180th Avenue and 83rd Street. Police are not saying much about the investigation, other than there is more than one death at the scene.

Neighbours say a family of five lived in the two-storey home, a couple, an elderly woman, a boy around eight and an infant.

 

“It’s a tragedy and I hope the children weren’t involved,” said neighbour Ron Bailey, who once helped the boy take the training wheels off his bike.

 

Forensics investigators could be seen taking pictures inside the home and on the walk leading up to the front door. They also spent time looking around the driveway where a black Toyota was parked.

 

Moe Assiff was going out on a midnight McDonald’s run when he noticed police outside a house across the street. In the past, Assiff had seen the couple who live at the home fighting, most recently in the summer.

 

He stopped beside a white Toyota Scion parked outside the home. A man and a woman sat inside and they were “white as a ghost,” Assiff said. Assiff said he asked if everything was all right and the man looked at the house and then said, “No, it’s personal.”

 

 THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jason Franson
THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jason Franson
Police investigate a scene where a car rammed an RCMP
truckand damaged restaurant in Fort Saskatchewan,
Alberta on Tuesday December 30, 2014. The scene is said
to be related to multipledeaths that occurred in a north
Edmonton home overnight.
 

That car had been in the house’s driveway over the past couple of weeks, but he’d never seen it before that. It remains at the scene

 

Around 1:30 a.m., Assiff saw the woman talking to a police officer. “She started screaming her head off,” Assiff said. “She let out the biggest scream I’ve ever heard in my life.”

 

She and the man got in a police cruiser.

 

The elderly woman, believed to be a grandmother, often sat outside and watched the kids play in the summertime, drawing with chalk on the sidewalk, he said.

 

This summer, for the first time, Assiff saw the husband and wife screaming at each other on the front lawn around 3 a.m. “This is going to get really nasty, really fast,” Assiff said, recalling the incident.

 

The man was carrying a Safeway bag and jumped in his car. Assiff didn’t see him again for a day or two.

 

According to the City of Edmonton records, the home was built in 2012. Government documents show a $365,000 mortgage was taken out that July. Both owners been facing financial pressures, documents show. A 35-year-old woman listed as an owner had a $25,000 judgment issued against her in December 2013 after being sued by the Royal Bank, who supplied the mortgage. The other owner had filed for bankruptcy in October.

 

Neither of the owners of the home have an obvious connection to the restaurant, which was incorporated in August 2012. The restaurant underwent an ownership change in 2013.

 

At the third homicide scene, a woman in her late 30s was found dead at a residence near Haswell Court and 16th Avenue near Terwillegar Drive just before 7 p.m. Monday evening. Police said the homicide occurred in a “family setting” and that nobody was in custody.

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Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Kapadilla:

Suh da mean we muss tek it light and doan call yuh incompetent and thieving PPP out foh de escalating crime wave? 

No Dummy, it means shit happens everywhere EVEN where it is rich and powerful.

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FM

Phu Lam identified as Edmonton man who killed eight people, including two children

 

Marty Klinkenberg, Brent Wittmeier, Cailynn Klingbeil, Otiena Ellwand and Andrea Ross, Postmedia News | December 31, 2014 | Last Updated: Dec 31 2:57 PM ET, Source - National Post

 

Edmonton Police one of the crime scenes Tuesday in a house near 180 avenue and 83 Street.

Edmonton Police one of the crime scenes Tuesday in a house near 180 avenue and 83 Street.

Shaughn Butts/Edmonton Journal

 

Edmonton murders were 'planned and deliberate' domestic violence

EDMONTON — Investigators have identified the man who killed eight people in Edmonton this week as 53-year-old Phu Lam, sources tell the Edmonton Journal.

 

Lam is the co-owner of the north Edmonton home where seven of the victims — including two young children — were found dead early Tuesday morning. Another victim was found shot to death in a home in south Edmonton late Monday night, Lam was discovered dead in a restaurant in the neighbouring community of Fort Saskatchewan early Tuesday.

 

Edmonton Police Chief Rod Knecht has said the attack was “planned, deliberate and targeted.”

 

“In my 39 years of policing, I’ve never seen anything like it,” he said.

 

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At both the north and south Edmonton homes, memorials are springing up, as neighbours and concerned citizens leave flowers and stuffed animals to commemorate the victims of what is the worst mass murder in the city’s history.

 

Knecht has stressed the public is not in danger. “These events do not appear to be gang-related, but rather tragic incidents of domestic violence.”

 

The series of events began at 6:52 p.m. Monday when police were called to a residence in the Haddow neighbourhood in south Edmonton where they say a man entered the home, and shot and killed a woman with a 9-mm handgun, before fleeing.

 

At the time, police said the death occurred in a “family setting.”

 

Late Tuesday, police identified the woman as Cyndi Duong, 37. An autopsy confirmed she died of a gunshot wound.

 

Neighbours say Duong and her husband, David Luu, had three children ages six to 13. A grandmother also lived at the house — government documents list a 59-year-old woman, Huong Lam, as a resident at the home.

 

On Wednesday morning, a small memorial with a red heart, pink flowers and a handful of candles was outside the home on Haswell Court. Four cars were parked outside the home, and the man who answered the door would not comment on the deaths. Two women later came out of the house with the man, loaded the trunks of the cars with belongings and drove away.

 

Most neighbours said they didn’t know the family and didn’t didn’t see or hear anything unusual on Monday night.

 

It’s unclear what ties the family to the gruesome homicide scene in north Edmonton. But it seems someone at the house recognized the shooter Monday night because at that time, police said they had information on the suspect but he was not in custody.

 

Later that night, police responded to a home in the Klarvatten neighbourhood in north Edmonton after a man’s family had reported he was depressed, overly emotional and potentially suicidal.

 

Edmonton police initially said they went to the home around 8:30 p.m., but late Tuesday night they revised that time to 9:44 p.m.

 

Police walked around the exterior of the home and peered in windows and found nothing suspicious. Nobody answered the door and there was no trace of the man, so officers left. Before entering the home, police needed “reasonable and probable grounds” to do so, and did not have them at that time, Knecht said.

 

They returned just after midnight after receiving further information from a “second individual,” the chief said, although he would not elaborate on the nature of the information or who the person was.

 

Larry Wong/Edmonton Journal
Larry Wong/Edmonton Journal
One of the Edmonton crime scenes Tuesday night.

 

At that time, police found the bodies of seven people inside: three women, two men, and a boy and a girl.

 

Police say the adults are all aged 25-50, and the children both younger than 10. Knecht could not say what time they had been killed.

 

Land title documents show the home is owned by Phu Lam and Thuy-Tien “Tien” Truong. Neighbours say a couple lived in the home with two children, a boy around age eight and a toddler, as well as an elderly woman.

 

Elvis, the eldest child, was a favourite in the neighbourhood. One neighbour helped him take the training wheels off his bike, while another said Elvis played with all the kids on the block and was in Grade 3 with her son.

 

Police have not officially confirmed the suspect’s identity, but sources tell the Journal that it is Lam.

 

Topher Seguin/Edmonton Journal
Topher Seguin/Edmonton Journal
Police Chief Rod Knecht addresses media at the EPS
Headquarters in Edmonton Tuesday.

 

On Tuesday, Knecht said the suspect, who lived at the Klarvatten home, said he has a history of violence and drug-related crimes dating back to 1987. Officers responded to the home twice in the past two years: in November 2012 for domestic violence, sex assault and threats and in 2013 to check on someone’s welfare.

 

Thanh Nguyen, a friend who stopped by the home Tuesday afternoon, described Lam as “a really nice guy,” but noted that “the family had trouble, problems.”

 

Neighbours say they had seen the couple arguing in the past. Moe Assiff said he saw the couple yelling outside the house at 3 a.m. in August.

Nguyen said Lam’s ex-wife owns a restaurant in Fort Saskatchewan.

 

Topher Seguin/Edmonton Journal
Topher Seguin/Edmonton Journal
VN Express restaurant in downtown Fort Saskatchewan
on Tuesday.

 

Two hours after police found the bodies in north Edmonton, officers in Fort Saskatchewan spotted a black Mercedes SUV that was connected to the first killing. It was parked outside a Vietnamese restaurant called VN Express, which police also linked to the suicidal male from the north Edmonton homicides. On Tuesday, Knecht said that the man had a “business interest” in the restaurant but would not specify exactly what that means. “To what extent, that is also being investigated at this time,” said Knecht.

 

Suspecting the man was inside, police surrounded the restaurant and then rammed its entrance at 6:30 a.m., and commanded he come out.

 

Receiving no response, police entered the restaurant at 7:34 a.m. and found a dead man matching the description of the suicidal male. Investigators then shut down the downtown area for an hour as they collected evidence. At around 2:30 p.m. the medical examiner’s office arrived at the scene and the body was removed on a stretcher.

 

Edmonton police are remaining tight-lipped about their investigation. Knecht said twice on Tuesday that the situation was “fluid” and that officers that investigators are still trying to sort out the exact sequence of events, and how all of the victims and suspects are linked.

 

Topher Seguin/ Edmonton Journal
Topher Seguin/ Edmonton Journal Don Wright, who lives across
the street from VN Express in downtown Fort Saskatchewan, said
he heard police speaking to the man inside early Tuesday Morning.
 

Knecht said the handgun used in all of the deaths was legally registered in B.C. in 1997, but was stolen in Surrey in 2006.

 

The scope and the scale of the carnage has stunned everyone from neighbours to Alberta Premier Jim Prentice.

 

“I wish to express my sorrow at the tragic incident which claimed lives in Edmonton and Fort Saskatchewan today,” Prentice said in a statement. “In this season of peace and goodwill, this act of violence is all the more difficult to comprehend.”

 

Larry Wong/Postmedia News
Larry Wong/Postmedia News
One of the bodies is removed from a home in Edmonton
Tuesday.

 

Edmonton Mayor Don Iveson released a statement Wednesday saying he was “shocked and saddened” about the homicides. “As more details have emerged, it now seems clear that this is a devastating case of domestic violence. The scale of these events is rare and exceptional. However, domestic violence remains all too common in our society and this tragedy is a harsh reminder of the continuing need for support for individuals and families in crisis, and the critical importance of reporting any instances of domestic violence to police.”

 

Amy Duong, the vice-president external of the Edmonton Viets Association, said the group did not know the victims. All are believed to be Vietnamese.

 

“It’s a tragic and horrific event,” Duong said. “I’ve never heard of this kind of domestic violence in the Vietnamese community before.”

 

Sonia Bitar is a former citizenship judge and the executive director of Changing Together, a local NGO that works to support immigrant women.

“It’s really a disaster,” she said. “It’s absolutely tragic, what happened. Can you imagine? In one day, eight people?”

 

Bitar said that police have released so little information about the victims and the circumstances, it’s hard to draw conclusions about what happened and why. But, she notes, the Christmas season can create serious financial stresses for many families. It can also be a harder time of the year for people to get support to cope with domestic tensions. Domestic violence is a problem in all kind of families, she said, but it can be particularly difficult for immigrant women who don’t speak fluent English, or who feel culturally isolated, to ask for assistance.

 

“Sometimes, it’s really embarrassing to call for help. For so many families, the violence is hidden or accepted, for the sake of the children.”

Near the crime scenes, residents expressed horror over the events.

 

When Farley Yuras moved into his home on 180A Avenue over two years ago, a boy who lived around the corner asked if he could take Yuras’s dog for a walk. Yuras is stunned now that the house was the scene of a mass murder.

 

“I’m just sort of disgusted and shocked,” he said. “It’s just really, really sad.”

 

Prior to the killings on Monday and Tuesday, there had been 27 homicides in Edmonton in 2014. These eight deaths bring the total to 35.

 

Knecht said autopsies will be performed on the suspect and seven victims from the north Edmonton home on Jan. 1.

 

Responding officers did an admirable job, the chief said.

“At this point it appears we did everything we could have at that time,” Knecht said.

 

With files from Ryan Cormier, Paula Simons, Madeline Smith, and Elise Stolte

 

A timeline of events

Dec. 29, 2014

  • 6:52 p.m.: ­Police are called to a south Edmonton home at 1608 Haswell Court for a weapons complaint. Cindy Duong. 37, was shot with a 9-mm handgun by a man who entered the home, then fled. The victim died at the scene. Family members survived the shooting and told investigators about the suspect.
  • 8:28 p.m.: Police are called to a north Edmonton house at 180th Avenue and 83rd Street home after a report of a suicidal man who family reported was “depressed and overly emotional.” Police arrived, but got no response at the door, saw nothing suspicious during a search of the home’s exterior and did not locate the suicidal man. The officers left.

Dec. 30, 2014

  • 12:23 a.m.: Police returned to the north-end home after receiving “further information” from another person (not the source of the original call to the home). The suicidal man was not found, but police entered the home and discovered seven bodies inside: three adult women, two adult men, one girl and one boy.
  • 2:20 a.m.: In Fort Saskatchewan, police discovered a black Mercedes SUV parked outside the VN Express restaurant on 100th Avenue. That vehicle matched the description of one seen at the south Edmonton homicide scene. Investigators connected the restaurant to the suicidal male initially described at the north Edmonton homicide scene.

  • 6:30 a.m.: A staff member at a restaurant near VN Express witnessed a police tactical team outside the restaurant. An officer yelled for someone inside to “come out with their hands up.”

  • 7:43 a.m.: RCMP discovered the man dead inside the restaurant from an apparent suicide. He was identified as the same suicidal man police had spent the previous 12 hours searching for. Police say he is the sole suspect in the killings.

  • 9 a.m.: For an hour, RCMP shut down all access to downtown Fort Saskatchewan during the investigation at VN Express.

  • 3:30 p.m.: Police Chief Rod Knecht announced investigators are not looking for any additional suspects. He attributed the killings to domestic violence.

  • 9 p.m.: Knecht holds another press conference, releasing some more details, including Cindy Duong’s identity. He said an autopsy had been completed on Duong, and she died of gunshot wounds. Autopsies on the seven other victims and the suspect will be conducted on Jan. 1.

Compiled by Ryan Cormier, Edmonton Journal

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