Now Django touting Baldeo how he congratulated Meeks. The same Baldeo who spent some thirty something months in jail for elections finance violations. ð
Django is water boy and paper boy for the PNC.
My brother Django is definitely on the wrong side of history.
ksazma posted:Dave posted:The hypocrisy displaying here is funny.
Firstly, The US Ambassador is on record as saying the Granger government violated the constitution. Granger and his foreign minister criticized American for involving in Guyana affairs ( but they were ok in 2014 when Ramotar prologue parliamentð)The poster even change the subject justifying his beliefs, knowing the US Ambassador criticizes Granger ( that subject is in the archives here where he contribute ð) - suddenly, Rickford is quoting the Ambassador without any verification, and the very Ambassador, Rickford take to task about constitution violation in September 2019 lol ð
Diplomats declare Guyana government in breach of constitution as first oil looms
(Reuters) - U.S. and European diplomats on Thursday declared Guyana's government in breach of the country's constitution until new elections are held and called on Guyanese President David Granger to "set an elections date immediately" or possibly face a cutoff of development funding.
Bai Django wutliss. He trying to pull wutlissness heah but he wasting he time. ð
Burke is a jackass.
Diplomats declare Guyana government in breach of constitution as first oil looms
September 19, 2019 / 2:18 PM / 5 months ago
That article was 5 months ago
February 12 2020
https://www.caribbeanlifenews....2020-02-0-14-cl.html
At said meeting, I brought to the attention of the legislators, the following Sept. 19, 2019 joint statement by United States of America Ambassador to Guyana, H.E. Ambassador Sarah-Ann Lynch, United Kingdom High Commissioner to Guyana, H.E. Greg Quinn and the European Union Ambassador to Guyana, H.E. Ambassador Fernando Ponz CantÃģ.
QUOTE: âThe United States, United Kingdom and the European Union thank the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) for devising a proposed elections timeframe for conducting General and Regional Elections. However, we deeply regret that, by surpassing September 18, the Government is currently in breach of the Constitution following its failure to adhere to the decisions of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) on 18 June and its subsequent orders. This situation comes at great cost to the people of Guyana. The prevailing political uncertainty undermines Guyanese institutions, compromises economic opportunities and delays development across all areas including infrastructure, education, health, and social services. It also hinders our ability to support Guyanaâs development needs. We therefore call upon the President to set an elections date immediately in full compliance with Guyanaâs constitutiÂon.â END QUOTE.
The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation. Moreover, the Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.
Where is the ambassadorâs statement bai?
The last published statement from the ambassador was that grangerâs actions jeopardize vital help reaching Guyana.
ksazma posted:Where is the ambassadorâs statement bai?
Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.
The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.
Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding gathering of information ,on the mission to Guyana.
The US Ambassador don't have to make a separate statement or call any one in Guyana and hey , i have taken back my word.
Django posted:ksazma posted:Where is the ambassadorâs statement bai?
Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.
The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.
Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding their findings on the mission to Guyana.
That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority. Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Not so long ago Meeks was also in some crookedness too. I am surprised he is still there.
And then we have Baldeo and his fake heart attack and his shamelessness in lying in that hospital bed to avoid sentencing. The judge still clap a good sentence on his wicked ass.
ksazma posted:Django posted:ksazma posted:Where is the ambassadorâs statement bai?
Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.
The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.
Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding their findings on the mission to Guyana.
That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.
Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.
Django posted:ksazma posted:That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.
Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.
One will have allegiance to a country.
Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.
However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.
D2 posted:Django posted:D2 posted:Django posted:This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.
Who didn't do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.
Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.
GID looking to the September date was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued. The vile tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal.
Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.
The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.
There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. Then came the NCM , the rest is history.
Let me reiterate what is standard practice the world over with building valid voters list. The old voters list is the workable starting point. Hoyte insisted on this and delayed elections two year to clean this up. Statistically, this should be the most secure starting point.
This APNU wanted to start all over with the counting process with nothing to compare the data with statistically. People do not move often and especially Guyanese. There would be no bloated list if the process of ongoing registration and purging was in place. That is the mandate of the constitution if ever a 90 day turnover to election was ever possible.
But as usual, anything in Guyana has a rube goldberg solution.
Alexander et al did not want to purge the old list of dead and migrated and post it in local jurisdictions where the people can check if they are on it and register.
What is being missed is we do not have compulsory voting so why all the crap about compulsory house to house registration? Voting is a civic duty and if the people do not see it worthwhile to participate that is their choice. The house to house ruse is and always an APNU ruse to delay elections. There was no necessity for it.
Sensible people could have delivered valid elections promptly. India did it in 50 days with 900 million electors and hundreds of thousands of polling sites. The brits did it in a few weeks. We are in this process for over a year and still have an almost 50 percent calculable error rate. No APNU person is complaining as they did before. As night follows day they are rigging our elections as we speak.
There is another problem ,the appeal court,recently ruled migrants to other countries names can't be removed from voters list.
Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:ksazma posted:That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.
Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.
One will have allegiance to a country.
Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.
However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.
Understood, US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.
Django posted:ksazma posted:Django posted:ksazma posted:Where is the ambassadorâs statement bai?
Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.
The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.
Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding their findings on the mission to Guyana.
That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.
Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.
Bai, my allegiance is 100% to America. But this is not about allegiance. It is about validity and in the matter being discussed, the CCJ judges takes precedence over all other mentioned. You just trying to defend the indefensible.
US elected officials have also ended up in jail for malfeasance. Google that governor from Illinois.
ksazma posted:Django posted:ksazma posted:Django posted:ksazma posted:Where is the ambassadorâs statement bai?
Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.
The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.
Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding their findings on the mission to Guyana.
That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.
Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.
Bai, my allegiance is 100% to America. But this is not about allegiance. It is about validity and in the matter being discussed, the CCJ judges takes precedence over all other mentioned. You just trying to defend the indefensible.
I have respect for US Elected Officials ,the represent the people and the Country.
ksazma posted:US elected officials have also ended up in jail for malfeasance. Google that governor from Illinois.
That not uncommon ,one of our Governors was jailed.
Some people live in denialism. Their belief is part of themselves and refuse to part with it, although the facts are presented to them. They believe that the truth is â accepting defeat â
Lets look back at another situation, the United Nation recently condemned Guyana for ignoring a court order and violating the constitution, Django, posted links upon links, trying to say itâs not so, he even tried to discredit the news source in Guyana who breaks the news. A video was posted of the speech, this banna criticized the 16 second video, itâs rite hay in the archives.
Now, how is it convenient to accept Rickford statement, knowing the credibility of this individual how controversial he is and US Ambassador has not issued any such statement, except the one condemning Granger government.
Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.
Django posted:Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.
You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . thatâs what you need to show.
Django posted:Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:ksazma posted:That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.
Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.
One will have allegiance to a country.
Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.
However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.
Understood, US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.
Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.
However as stated above ... no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ... an important aspect of their roles/functions.
Oath of Office
U.S House of Representatives
âThe Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.â
â U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3
Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/
Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:ksazma posted:That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.
Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.
One will have allegiance to a country.
Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.
However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.
Understood, US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.
Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.
However as stated above ... no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ... an important aspect of their roles/functions.
Oath of Office
U.S House of Representatives
âThe Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.â
â U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/
I think they may have a hard time accepting this too .. heh heh
Dave posted:Django posted:Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.
You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . thatâs what you need to show.
It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.
Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.
You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . thatâs what you need to show.
It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.
Do you really think those people give a rat's ass about Guyana? All they care about is the Guyanese votes. They could care less if Guyana is swallowed up by the ocean. I bet some PNC members prodded them to visit. It's like paying lip service.
Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:ksazma posted:That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.
Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.
One will have allegiance to a country.
Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.
However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.
Understood,
US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.
Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.
However as stated above ... no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ... an important aspect of their roles/functions.
Oath of Office
U.S House of Representatives
âThe Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.â
â U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/
What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?
Are you implying i said "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"
Django posted:Demerara_Guy posted:Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.
However as stated above ... no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ... an important aspect of their roles/functions.
Oath of Office
U.S House of Representatives
âThe Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.â
â U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/
What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?
Are you implying i said "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"
My statement made absolutely no such reference.
Dave posted:Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:ksazma posted:That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.
Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.
Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.
One will have allegiance to a country.
Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.
However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.
Understood, US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.
Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.
However as stated above ... no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ... an important aspect of their roles/functions.
Oath of Office
U.S House of Representatives
âThe Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.â
â U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/
I think they may have a hard time accepting this too .. heh heh
What makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators ,Congressman and the Constitution. Americans have two Constitution one is State and the other is Federal.
Also what have you gathered from DemGuy post ?
Django posted:What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?
Indeed, there are many U.S citizens who know that issue.
Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.
You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . thatâs what you need to show.
It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.
Isn't Meeks that took bribe, his words bear no weight. Look what the PNC did to Gayle?
Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?
Are you implying i said "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"
Indeed, there are many U.S citizens who know that issue.
Americans are very serious about their Constitutional rights ,as such they know the Constitution of their State and Federal.
kp posted:Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.
You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . thatâs what you need to show.
It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.
Isn't Meeks that took bribe, his words bear no weight. Look what the PNC did to Gayle?
He got off ,you probably know the story involving the NYC real estate mogul.
Regarding Gale ,don't think there was any payment arrangement, who knows. Now Gale in Jagdeo bad book ,for going to Linden.
Django posted:D2 posted:Django posted:This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.
Who didn't do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.
Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.
GID looking to the September date was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued. The vile tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal.
Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.
The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.
There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. Then came the NCM , the rest is history.
Baldeo is a shameless, opportunistic disgrace to Guyanese.
Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:Demerara_Guy posted:Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.
However as stated above ... no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ... an important aspect of their roles/functions.
Oath of Office
U.S House of Representatives
âThe Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.â
â U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/
What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?
Are you implying i said "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"
My statement made absolutely no such reference.
Ok boss, just checking .
Django posted:kp posted:Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.
You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . thatâs what you need to show.
It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.
Isn't Meeks that took bribe, his words bear no weight. Look what the PNC did to Gayle?
He got off ,you probably know the story involving the NYC real estate mogul.
Regarding Gale ,don't think there was any payment arrangement, who knows. Now Gale in Jagdeo bad book ,for going to Linden.
Gayle is friend of Jagdeo. I met Gayle a couple times at a club called "Windies" located in Scarborough, the owner of that club is a close friend to Jagdeo. Sarwan is co-owner of the club. The other owner is in Guyana campaigning for the PPP.
It was a business arrangement for Gayle to visit Linden, like he said , he has no political bias, Pay for Play.
Django posted:Demerara_Guy posted:Django posted:Demerara_Guy posted:Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.
However as stated above ... no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ... an important aspect of their roles/functions.
Oath of Office
U.S House of Representatives
âThe Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.â
â U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/
What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?
Are you implying i said "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"
My statement made absolutely no such reference.
Ok boss, just checking .
Take your time while "peeling" the pine.
Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.
You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . thatâs what you need to show.
It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.
That team does not negate the CCJâs ruling just because they visited Guyana. Why are you minimizing the CCJâs ruling when that is Guyanaâs highest court of law?
Kascz, any dumb, stupid excuses for the illiterates
Next thing yuh gun hear from them is dat the CCJ is not a court
Carter Center and European Union delegation already in GY. They will find the real facts. Fire in PNCâs ass. Vote them out!!