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FM
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They have money to splurge on all sorts of sporting, pay raises etc, but no money for building a new prison. The govt is crying broke as hard times continues for the rest of the population but Granger et al living high off the hog on their 50% pay raises and perks financed by the tax payers.

 

 

New prison out of the question at this time — Ramjattan

MARCH 8, 2016 | BY | FILED UNDER NEWS 

In the wake of the recent Camp Street Prison tragedy that left 17 dead and several others injured, Minister

Minister of Public Security, Khemraj Ramjattan

Minister of Public Security, Khemraj Ramjattan

of Public Security, Khemraj Ramjattan, is saying that calls for a new Prison will not be met at this time.
He said, too, that prisoners will not be given all that they are demanding.
The Minister told Kaieteur News that this is solely because of the fact that the government simply cannot afford to fund these requests at the moment.
Ramjattan said that Guyana will get a new prison when the country finds itself in a better position, financially. The Minister said that when the prices for the main commodities Guyana produces escalate and the country rakes in greater profits, only then can the government be able to build a new prison.
Ramjattan said that based on the information he received, the cheapest prison has a price tag of no less than $6B. He pointed out that shabby work cannot be risked as strong walls and good ground are needed “so that the prisoners won’t be able to burrow themselves like the Mexican drugs dealer.”
“Imagine if we move to spend that sort of money now, the media would rip us apart. You will ask if that is our priority just eight months in office,” said Ramjattan.
He continued, “Should the comfort of prisoners be our priority? Should we close down another sugar estate to get at least a $2B from there to offset expenses? That would be absolute trouble.”
Ramjattan also told Kaieteur News that he approached the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) as well as some of Guyana’s other financial partners none of whom are willing to come on board to fund a prison. “It will have to be funded from our money.”
Ramjattan pleaded that the public understands the difficulties facing the APNU+AFC government which he

PPP General Secretary, Clement Rohee

PPP General Secretary, Clement Rohee

claims has the interest of every citizen at heart and wants to do what is right.
The Minister said out that it is already very expensive to maintain prisoners. He said that the state foots a Bill of $475,000 a year per prisoner for food alone.
He said that while he would want the criminals to be comfortable, “we just cannot afford it.”
Ramjattan said that the “chattering class” feels as if it has all the answers and can fix everything with the click of a finger; “but it is not that easy in reality.”
He told Kaieteur News that while the building of a new prison is off the table for now, the government will be looking to address other factors that could have contributed to the cause of last Thursday’s disturbances.
In this regard, the APNU+AFC government will be advocating for and implementing measures to secure faster trials, lowered bail for minor offences and remission “because tension rise when the prison is overcrowded. But when the President (David Granger) pardoned some youngsters who were imprisoned for minor offences thus reducing the crowd the chattering class has a lot to say.”
Even former Minister of Home Affairs, Clement Rohee, is against the building of a new prison at this time.  At a press conference held at Freedom House yesterday, Rohee told reporters, “Forget this question of building a new prison. There will always be complications about whether money should be spent on a new prison or should be spent on hospital, school or road.
“Every government around the world faces that dilemma and usually the support comes down to using the money for a social project.”
Rohee said that instead, attention should be placed on the recommendations that came out of the Discipline Services Commission report.
That report offered the extension of the Mazaruni prison as a solution. The suggestion was that petty offenders should be placed there instead of having them at Camp Street Prison. (Abena Rockcliffe)

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So Granger's best possible alternative would be to have the prisoners roam the streets. First the coalition government forego spending on education, then healthcare, and now the prisons.  This is a formula for disaster.

 

Bibi Haniffa

The Minister said that when the prices for the main commodities Guyana produces escalate and the country rakes in greater profits, only then can the government be able to build a new prison.

The man is talking next janam here.

Ramjattan also told Kaieteur News that he approached the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) as well as some of Guyana’s other financial partners none of whom are willing to come on board to fund a prison.

You blame them?

FM

FOOLS, DUNCES, INCOMPETENT MULES, BARBARIANS GIVEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY.  SPORT, BACKBALL, WINE AND GO DOWN LOW, WASTE 600 MILLION BUT LET ANARCHY RULES.  ONLY IN GUYANA DEVANY, UNCLE TOM AND THE MURDEROUS PNC!!!

Nehru
skeldon_man posted:

The Minister said that when the prices for the main commodities Guyana produces escalate and the country rakes in greater profits, only then can the government be able to build a new prison.

The man is talking next janam here.

Ramjattan also told Kaieteur News that he approached the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) as well as some of Guyana’s other financial partners none of whom are willing to come on board to fund a prison.

You blame them?

The IDB should have told Ramjattan to take some of the 50th Anniversary Celebration money to fund the prison.  But, now might be a good time for him to ask his friend Somar for another big check!!!!

Bibi Haniffa
skeldon_man posted:

The Minister said that when the prices for the main commodities Guyana produces escalate and the country rakes in greater profits, only then can the government be able to build a new prison.

The man is talking next janam here.

Ramjattan also told Kaieteur News that he approached the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) as well as some of Guyana’s other financial partners none of whom are willing to come on board to fund a prison.

You blame them?

You and your family is a  burden on the Guyanese people now if u fools can only stop stealing  and stop fulling the jail we can spend  that money on better program 

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:

Ramjattan should consult with Brassington to use the same financial model he employed to build the Marriot.

Why do you think the same financial model would work? 

Occupancy is guaranteed. Can Prisoners be employed to do some work for exchange of their time?

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:

Ramjattan should consult with Brassington to use the same financial model he employed to build the Marriot.

Why do you think the same financial model would work? 

Occupancy is guaranteed. Can Prisoners be employed to do some work for exchange of their time?

This is not a financial model.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:

Ramjattan should consult with Brassington to use the same financial model he employed to build the Marriot.

Why do you think the same financial model would work? 

Occupancy is guaranteed. Can Prisoners be employed to do some work for exchange of their time?

This is not a financial model.

I am not here to teach you  1+1 = 3.

Mitwah

Don't worry, Granger will FREE 50 prisoners for the 50th celebration. This government has it's priority all mixed up, money is there for Nagga renovate house , buy new SUV, buy new furniture, money for 50% raise[them thief}, but to secure the Guyanese public by rendering good prisons they can't afford. What is more important, the safety of its people or BACCANAL. Rumjaatan has failed his probation, he needs to go, NOW.

K

Mitwah - Financial models are generally used to predict a financial outcome, such as cash flow analysis, predicting economic forecasts, capital modeling, etc. using quantitative analysis.  A prison is not an income producing institution.  How does this apply?

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah - Financial models are generally used to predict a financial outcome, such as cash flow analysis, predicting economic forecasts, capital modeling, etc. using quantitative analysis.  A prison is not an income producing institution.  How does this apply?

Getting the ppp thieves off the streets is a good financial model

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah - Financial models are generally used to predict a financial outcome, such as cash flow analysis, predicting economic forecasts, capital modeling, etc. using quantitative analysis.  A prison is not an income producing institution.  How does this apply?

Define Income.

Mitwah
Bibi Haniffa posted:
skeldon_man posted:

The Minister said that when the prices for the main commodities Guyana produces escalate and the country rakes in greater profits, only then can the government be able to build a new prison.

The man is talking next janam here.

Ramjattan also told Kaieteur News that he approached the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) as well as some of Guyana’s other financial partners none of whom are willing to come on board to fund a prison.

You blame them?

The IDB should have told Ramjattan to take some of the 50th Anniversary Celebration money to fund the prison.  But, now might be a good time for him to ask his friend Somar for another big check!!!!

One of the reasons we are so much screwed is because people like you take a mundane sum and attach it as a dead weight to kill any other urgent necessity. The minor sum allocated for what is a celebration of who we are is not divorced from what we need as part of our societal infrastructure. 

We need the symbols, the poetry, the prose, the music, the ambiance of a people interacting in celebration for a common sense of identity to create the culture that makes the need to combine our efforts to think up ways to solve problems.

To say prison infrastructure is somehow hampered by a community in celebration is what political know nothing do and the urgency to repudiate it is preeminent. One creates that all so necessary summoning creed to people hood and the latter urges us on the means to protect it. People have to know what it is they protect and often it is not the tangible furniture of reality but the feeling that one belong.

 

 

FM
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baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:

Ramjattan should consult with Brassington to use the same financial model he employed to build the Marriot.

Why do you think the same financial model would work? 

Occupancy is guaranteed. Can Prisoners be employed to do some work for exchange of their time?

This is not a financial model.

I am not here to teach you  1+1 = 3.

Actual this is you expecting 1 - 1 = 2!!

This is simple to prove on a linear model.

Mitwah
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah - Financial models are generally used to predict a financial outcome, such as cash flow analysis, predicting economic forecasts, capital modeling, etc. using quantitative analysis.  A prison is not an income producing institution.  How does this apply?

Prisons house those we take out of society to protect the society from social and economic damage. Were we to jail the wall street raiders we would be jailing people who damaged the American economy to the tune of three trillion dollars. That is how it applies even to the petty thief who is jailed for robbing the cake shop.

FM
baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
skeldon_man posted:

The Minister said that when the prices for the main commodities Guyana produces escalate and the country rakes in greater profits, only then can the government be able to build a new prison.

The man is talking next janam here.

Ramjattan also told Kaieteur News that he approached the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) as well as some of Guyana’s other financial partners none of whom are willing to come on board to fund a prison.

You blame them?

The IDB should have told Ramjattan to take some of the 50th Anniversary Celebration money to fund the prison.  But, now might be a good time for him to ask his friend Somar for another big check!!!!

One of the reasons we are so much screwed is because people like you take a mundane sum and attach it as a dead weight to kill any other urgent necessity. The minor sum allocated for what is a celebration of who we are is not divorced from what we need as part of our societal infrastructure. 

We need the symbols, the poetry, the prose, the music, the ambiance of a people interacting in celebration for a common sense of identity to create the culture that makes the need to combine our efforts to think up ways to solve problems.

To say prison infrastructure is somehow hampered by a community in celebration a national is what political know nothing do and the urgency to repudiate it is preeminent. One creates that all so necessary summoning creed to people hood and the latter is to protect it. People have to know what it is they protect and often it is not the tangible furniture of reality but the feeling that one belong.

 

 

Rass man!  Try keeping your feet on the ground sometimes!!

He is delusional and I am being nice. The scope of the celebration flew over his head. Sometimes I wonder if is August month graduates are PNC supporters!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nehru
warrior posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah - Financial models are generally used to predict a financial outcome, such as cash flow analysis, predicting economic forecasts, capital modeling, etc. using quantitative analysis.  A prison is not an income producing institution.  How does this apply?

Getting the ppp thieves off the streets is a good financial model

And which genius are you now?

Bibi Haniffa
baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
skeldon_man posted:

The Minister said that when the prices for the main commodities Guyana produces escalate and the country rakes in greater profits, only then can the government be able to build a new prison.

The man is talking next janam here.

Ramjattan also told Kaieteur News that he approached the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) as well as some of Guyana’s other financial partners none of whom are willing to come on board to fund a prison.

You blame them?

The IDB should have told Ramjattan to take some of the 50th Anniversary Celebration money to fund the prison.  But, now might be a good time for him to ask his friend Somar for another big check!!!!

One of the reasons we are so much screwed is because people like you take a mundane sum and attach it as a dead weight to kill any other urgent necessity. The minor sum allocated for what is a celebration of who we are is not divorced from what we need as part of our societal infrastructure. 

We need the symbols, the poetry, the prose, the music, the ambiance of a people interacting in celebration for a common sense of identity to create the culture that makes the need to combine our efforts to think up ways to solve problems.

To say prison infrastructure is somehow hampered by a community in celebration a national is what political know nothing do and the urgency to repudiate it is preeminent. One creates that all so necessary summoning creed to people hood and the latter is to protect it. People have to know what it is they protect and often it is not the tangible furniture of reality but the feeling that one belong.

 

 

Rass man!  Try keeping your feet on the ground sometimes!!

My feet are planted firmly. This stupid harangue against the administration for allocating a small sum to celebrate who we are has to be addressed for its absurdity. I matters. It matters that we have things to celebrate else what kind of morose culture are we cultivating?

The absurdity of denigrating the government for speaking to a reality that we do not have money for a high ticket item as a prison now, is exactly that, absurd. Productive commentary on it would be in the exhortation that we do allocate some small sum into planning and allocating space and estimating capital outlay and identifying income sources.

FM
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baseman posted:
warrior posted:

The best income the prison will make is when kwame e and Barrat go to jail which is soon the government will put them to work the streets as male prostate 

Warrior, are you into that stuff bai?

Who is this warrior character?  He can't even write a proper sentence.  Dunce like the rest of the PNC crew!!

Bibi Haniffa
baseman posted:
Stormborn posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah - Financial models are generally used to predict a financial outcome, such as cash flow analysis, predicting economic forecasts, capital modeling, etc. using quantitative analysis.  A prison is not an income producing institution.  How does this apply?

Prisons house those we take out of society to protect the society from social and economic damage. Were we to jail the wall street raiders we would be jailing people who damaged the American economy to the tune of three trillion dollars. That is how it applies even to the petty thief who is jailed for robbing the cake shop.

Really!!!  You really brite!!

It is part of the infrastructure to protect and preserve those things we hold so dear to us; our freedom to live life in as unfettered ways as possible in a democracy and to protect our rights to this and our property that is a part of the good life. Liberty and property is fundamental. I am not bright, I am what you as a nit cannot comprehend.

FM

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