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Obama announces ‘broad coalition’ to fight Islamic State extremist group

. September 10 at 9:22 PM, Source - The Washington Post

 

President Obama addresses the nation from the Cross Hall in the White House on Wednesday. (Saul Loeb/AP)

 

President Obama began outlining a sweeping and long-term strategy Wednesday night for combatting the threat posed by the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, launching what could be the biggest counterterrorism campaign of his presidency.

 

“Tonight, I want to speak to you about what the United States will do with our friends and allies to degrade, and ultimately destroy, the terrorist group known as ISIL,” Obama said in a prime-time speech delivered from the White House.

 

According to prepared remarks, Obama said the offensive against the militant group will not involve combat troops but a “steady, relentless effort” through airstrikes in both countries and support for military partners on the ground.

 

“In a region that has known so much bloodshed, these terrorists are unique in their brutality. They execute captured prisoners. They kill children. They enslave, rape and force women into marriage,” Obama said. “They threatened a religious minority with genocide. In acts of barbarism, they took the lives of two American journalists — Jim Foley and Steven Sotloff.”

 

Obama sought to make clear to a war-weary public that this new offensive will not resemble the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but instead will be more in the vein of other more covert missions against terrorists.

 

 

“I want the American people to understand how this effort will be different from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It will not involve American combat troops fighting on foreign soil,” Obama said.

 

“This counterterrorism campaign will be waged through a steady, relentless effort to take out ISIL wherever they exist, using our air power and our support for partner forces on the ground. This strategy of taking out terrorists who threaten us, while supporting partners on the front lines, is one that we have successfully pursued in Yemen and Somalia for years.”

 

Ahead of Obama’s speech, debate over how to confront the threat moved to Congress Wednesday, where leaders were already debating legislative proposals that could bolster the president’s authority to wage war on the Islamist group. The key proposal would explicitly authorize U.S. military personnel to train foreigners to combat the militants.

 

If such authority is granted, it is unclear whether American military personnel would be sent into Syria to train those foreign fighters.

Support for Obama’s effort appears to be growing. House Republicans abruptly postponed a vote scheduled for Thursday on a short-term spending bill in which the White House asked that the legal authority to train fighters be included. Republicans deferred the vote to consider Obama’s request.

 

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) signaled Wednesday that he supports legislation to meet Obama’s request. “It’s clear to me that we need to train and equip Syrian rebels and other groups in the Middle East that need some help,” he said.

 

But House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she would support the move only if rebel fighters were trained “out of country” and not in Syria.

 

Obama has long signaled that he does not believe he needs formal congressional approval to launch airstrikes into Syria, be he is working hard to build support for his plan.

 

In a sign of intensified White House engagement, the president personally called lawmakers to ask for their support.

 

Senior House Republican aides couldn’t say Wednesday whether granting authority to train foreign troops to lead the fight against the terrorist group would be part of the spending package, which was introduced Tuesday night. House Republicans scheduled a meeting for Thursday morning to gauge members’ reactions to Obama’s speech, and lawmakers will have a chance to attend closed-door briefings with top military and national security officials Thursday afternoon, aides said.

 

Reid said that if the legal authority isn’t included in the House spending measure, he will introduce a standalone bill in the Senate.

 

Rep. Harold Rogers (R-Ky.), who chairs the House Appropriations Committee, said he received a call from Obama at 5 p.m. Tuesday asking that language giving the president authority to train foreign fighters be added to the spending bill. The call was the first of its kind Rogers has received from the president.

 

“I don’t recollect a previous time,” he said.

 

Meanwhile, the president huddled Wednesday in the White House Situation Room with his top national security advisers, including Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, national security adviser Susan E. Rice, CIA Director John Brennan and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

 

The United States already has conducted 154 strikes against Islamic State targets in Iraq, according to the Pentagon, and has 1,043 troops stationed there. The forces include 754 U.S. personnel providing support to diplomatic security in Baghdad and 289 personnel manning two joint operations centers.

 

At least one European ally is willing to help the United States launch airstrikes in Iraq. On Wednesday, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius called for other countries to join in the international fight against “this transnational danger that could reach all the way to our soil.”

 

Obama also seems to be receiving bipartisan support at home for his initiative, although Republicans continued to criticize how he has managed Middle Eastern affairs.

 

Reid said on the Senate floor that he supports Obama’s use of airstrikes and unmanned aerial drones to go after the Islamic State, calling it “a smart, strategic and effective approach.”

 

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), by contrast, said in a floor speech that Obama “has yet to find his footing when it comes to dealing with this group that clearly has the will, the means and the sanctuary it needs to do more.”

 

But McConnell added, “If the president develops a regional strategy, builds a combat-effective military coalition and explains how his strategy will lead to the defeat of ISIL, I believe he’ll have significant congressional support.”

 

That process is underway, said Jon B. Alterman, who directs the Middle East program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Alterman noted that much of the administration’s effort is focused on working with several allies — including the newly formed Iraqi government as well as leaders in Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Europe — and in parallel to Iran.

 

“The mistake is thinking this is principally a military operation,” he said. “This is principally a political operation about what political entity controls a broad swath of territory.”

 

As part of that diplomatic outreach, Obama called Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz on Wednesday from the Oval Office as four aides, including Rice and Lisa Monaco, assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism, sat nearby.

 

Meanwhile, Secretary of State John F. Kerry was spending Wednesday in Iraq, where he met with the nation’s new prime minister, Haider al-Abadi. Abadi, who called the Islamic State “a terrorist nation,” pledged “to include all people in the Iraqi society from all sections of this society in this government and in the mobilization process” as the country sought to establish regional stability.

 

Kerry told Abadi that he was “very encouraged by the comments you’ve made here today and by your commitment” to make reforms that would build trust among Sunnis as well as Kurds in Iraq.

 

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson warned Wednesday that the Islamic State has demonstrated “a certain level of danger that constitutes a threat” to U.S. vital interests. He said his agency, the FBI and other intelligence agencies are “making enhanced and concerted efforts” to track Syrian foreign fighters who leave or wish to enter the United States. He said the United States is working with international allies to share information about tracking Syrian foreign fighters.

 

Johnson said there is no credible information that the Islamic State is planning to attack the United States.

 

“After 13 years of war since 9/11, the decision by the president to take on a new fight against this enemy was not an easy one,” Johnson said Wednesday at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. “But the president recognizes the serious threat” posed by the Islamic State.

Rogers, however, said he is upset that Obama would make such a significant request at such a late hour.

 

“They’ve known about this problem for over a year, they’ve known that we were getting to do a [spending bill], and just as I was ready to drop it in the hopper, the president calls and asks if we would consider this,” Rogers said. “In good faith, we’re trying to get briefed up on what the request is, and it’s a complicated, big-time change in policy that I’d hate to see us attach to a continuing resolution at the very last minute.”

 

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Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

 

That the spirit. Wipe them out.

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Obama announcing real coalitions not dem sugar cake and aloo ball coalition like Rohee.

He aligning with the head of the snake, Saudi.  But ISIS needs to be wacked, then wack the evil Saudis/Qataris.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

Bush doctrine was a variant of the Powell Doctrine, massive air power and overwhelming power on the ground. Obama is about the people taking responsibility for themselves and US cover to get it done.

FM

SUMMARY OF OBAMA'S SPEECH

 

 

* We'll be bombing a sovereign nation (Syria).

* We'll be arming terrorist groups while fighting them.

* The US Economy is Great

 

* Thank you ALLAH for blessing the great USA with such a great President.

 

Rev

FM

It is left to be seen the formation of the coalition and how they will progress forward.

 

While President Barack Obama made an excellent projection for action, deviation in the latter part of his speech appears to leave doubts on indeed securing a sound coalition.

 

It will now be interesting to see how the Senate and House of Representatives officially respond to the issues.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:

SUMMARY OF OBAMA'S SPEECH

 

 

* We'll be bombing a sovereign nation (Syria).

* We'll be arming terrorist groups while fighting them.

* The US Economy is Great

 

* Thank you ALLAH for blessing the great USA with such a great President.

 

Rev

No racist piktcha? No rfacist bilge? Just the name of "Allah" being desecrated?

Kari
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:

SUMMARY OF OBAMA'S SPEECH

 

 

* We'll be bombing a sovereign nation (Syria).

* We'll be arming terrorist groups while fighting them.

* The US Economy is Great

 

* Thank you ALLAH for blessing the great USA with such a great President.

 

Rev

He lost me on the economy which took away from the anti-terror component.  He double-talking on Syria.  I think the US prefers to deal with Assad over Al Bhagadi.  The double talk is due to accommodating the views of terrorist Saudi/Qatar.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

why the racist rheotoric

FM

Who are the countries forming the BROAD coalition, the Arabs are only talk, they will not take arms against their BROTHERS. Fighting ISIS is a different kind of war, they are trained to return home to wage terror.

K
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

why the racist rheotoric

You may see it as racist; I don't. We need to tolerate each other's opinion and prejudices.

FM
Originally Posted by kp:

Who are the countries forming the BROAD coalition, .....

Not even one day has passed and there are interpretations by some leading politicians in the Republican and Democratic parties on whether the US_of_A is really alone on this mission.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

why the racist rheotoric

You may see it as racist; I don't. We need to tolerate each other's opinion and prejudices.

how bout if I say coconut oil head to you...would you tolerate it?

FM

BARACK, WE HARDLY KNEW YE

 

 

* Here’s the giant flaw in Obama’s incendiary strategy. The Peshmerga can be counted upon to ferociously defend Kurdistan against ISIS encroachment, and the Shiite militias will doubtless accomplish the same in their own territories.

 

* But no one with a modicum of historical knowledge would think it sane to send them up into the Sunni lands of the Euphrates valley to mop-up after the American bombs, missiles and drones.

 

* In short, once Washington is in full bombs away mode there will be no Free Syrian Army or reconstituted Iraqi army to finish the job. So what Obama actually launched last evening was Operation Blowback - Washington's stupidest military campaign yet.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

why the racist rheotoric

You may see it as racist; I don't. We need to tolerate each other's opinion and prejudices.

how bout if I say coconut oil head to you...would you tolerate it?

That is your opinion and I would have no problem with that. We do have our prejudices and we must learn to accept others.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

Dude, why the pejorative terms? Did not, some of our ancestors wore headgear? Most of our women did as a form of clan or jat designation. I bet we herded goats as well.

 

The President is targeting those people who has co opted a faith and are persecuting millions in its name. These include peoples who are of the
"rag head" tradition ie the gnostic Christians an others who lived there long before any other.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

why the racist rheotoric

You may see it as racist; I don't. We need to tolerate each other's opinion and prejudices.

how bout if I say coconut oil head to you...would you tolerate it?

That is your opinion and I would have no problem with that. We do have our prejudices and we must learn to accept others.

Prejudices are always injurious to the offended party and no one should find it acceptable for anyone to injure another.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

Dude, why the pejorative terms? Did not, some of our ancestors wore headgear? Most of our women did as a form of clan or jat designation. I bet we herded goats as well.

 

The President is targeting those people who has co opted a faith and are persecuting millions in its name. These include peoples who are of the
"rag head" tradition ie the gnostic Christians an others who lived there long before any other.

If some of my ancestors' descendants are related to these terrorists, I have no problem labelling them and killing them. This world belongs to all of us. I agree that some of my ancestors might herded goats.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

why the racist rheotoric

You may see it as racist; I don't. We need to tolerate each other's opinion and prejudices.

Hey dot-head, curry mouth Skelly..........like my opinion and prejudice of you bhai?

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Finally, the banna has awaken.  He came around to the great Bush doctrine.  Never unclench your fist with this wahab terrorist.  Pond them where ever they are, even in NY and Toronto.

 

Agreed.

The only good wahab is a dead wahab.

Bomb the rag heads, goat herders to the gates of hell Mr. President.

why the racist rheotoric

You may see it as racist; I don't. We need to tolerate each other's opinion and prejudices.

Hey dot-head, curry mouth Skelly..........like my opinion and prejudice of you bhai?

Stink Mouth Karahee,

I am not going to lose any sleep over it or have a heart attack. For your sake, let's all stand up and praise those murderous MARTYRS.

FM
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I see the same shit as with Iraq except on a smaller scale due to the fact, this is a smaller group of misfits who should have had their asses kicked by their parents when they were younger, is sheer slackness I tell ya.

 

I don't see how ISIS will be beaten by air power.

This will lead to more civilian deaths and we doan wanna make asj cross.

cain
Originally Posted by cain:

Just remembered, they have a dam that if breached could take out Baghdad this would need some support. I won't be surprised if ground troops are sent in.

You getting old or what, they lost the dam few weeks ago.  These wahabs will be exterminated like pesky cockroaches.

 

Obama finally sounding like the great Bush.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by cain:

Just remembered, they have a dam that if breached could take out Baghdad this would need some support. I won't be surprised if ground troops are sent in.

You getting old or what, they lost the dam few weeks ago.  These wahabs will be exterminated like pesky cockroaches.

 

Obama finally sounding like the great Bush.

I know the good guys copped the dam but they gotta keep it and all it take is lil bribe and dem boys right back in there, so the US gotta watch dem.

cain
Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by cain:

Just remembered, they have a dam that if breached could take out Baghdad this would need some support. I won't be surprised if ground troops are sent in.

You getting old or what, they lost the dam few weeks ago.  These wahabs will be exterminated like pesky cockroaches.

 

Obama finally sounding like the great Bush.

I know the good guys copped the dam but they gotta keep it and all it take is lil bribe and dem boys right back in there, so the US gotta watch dem.

Watch all fullahs, even Barak Hussein.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by cain:

Just remembered, they have a dam that if breached could take out Baghdad this would need some support. I won't be surprised if ground troops are sent in.

You getting old or what, they lost the dam few weeks ago.  These wahabs will be exterminated like pesky cockroaches.

 

Obama finally sounding like the great Bush.

I know the good guys copped the dam but they gotta keep it and all it take is lil bribe and dem boys right back in there, so the US gotta watch dem.

Watch all fullahs, even Barak Hussein.

ISIS executes British aid worker David Haines; Cameron vows justice.

 

Watch this video

 

(CNN) -- British aid worker David Haines has been executed by ISIS militants, according to a video posted Saturday to a website associated with the group, making him the third Western captive to be killed by the Islamist extremist group in recent weeks.

The ISIS video post showing Haines' beheading called his execution "a message to the allies of America."

 

FM
 

 

Watch this video

 

(CNN) -- British aid worker David Haines has been executed by ISIS militants, according to a video posted Saturday to a website associated with the group, making him the third Western captive to be killed by the Islamist extremist group in recent weeks.

The ISIS video post showing Haines' beheading called his execution "a message to the allies of America."

 

Wonder if this guy would feel as powerful if his captive was not restrained. I strongly support the targeting of these terrorists as their actions are truly despicable. That said, I can see bigotry is still alive and well on GNI.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by cain:

Just remembered, they have a dam that if breached could take out Baghdad this would need some support. I won't be surprised if ground troops are sent in.

You getting old or what, they lost the dam few weeks ago.  These wahabs will be exterminated like pesky cockroaches.

 

Obama finally sounding like the great Bush.

I know the good guys copped the dam but they gotta keep it and all it take is lil bribe and dem boys right back in there, so the US gotta watch dem.

Watch all fullahs, even Barak Hussein.

ISIS executes British aid worker David Haines; Cameron vows justice.

 

Watch this video

 

(CNN) -- British aid worker David Haines has been executed by ISIS militants, according to a video posted Saturday to a website associated with the group, making him the third Western captive to be killed by the Islamist extremist group in recent weeks.

The ISIS video post showing Haines' beheading called his execution "a message to the allies of America."

 


It look like these backwards use the same dumb brown guy to do the cut.

FM
Originally Posted by Wally:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by cain:

Just remembered, they have a dam that if breached could take out Baghdad this would need some support. I won't be surprised if ground troops are sent in.

You getting old or what, they lost the dam few weeks ago.  These wahabs will be exterminated like pesky cockroaches.

 

Obama finally sounding like the great Bush.

I know the good guys copped the dam but they gotta keep it and all it take is lil bribe and dem boys right back in there, so the US gotta watch dem.

Watch all fullahs, even Barak Hussein.

ISIS executes British aid worker David Haines; Cameron vows justice.

 

Watch this video

 

(CNN) -- British aid worker David Haines has been executed by ISIS militants, according to a video posted Saturday to a website associated with the group, making him the third Western captive to be killed by the Islamist extremist group in recent weeks.

The ISIS video post showing Haines' beheading called his execution "a message to the allies of America."

 


It look like these backwards use the same dumb brown guy to do the cut.


Alot of these guys went to Syria to help Obama in his fight with Assad. Now they are losing their heads while that Obama is safe in the air.

 

FM

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