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Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

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What should he do? send in he marines?

He is doing what ought to be done, let people fight their own battles and help them in ways that lends itself to permanent solutions. Russia could not even raise a bond on the international market. They depend on oil revenue alone because Putin is an ass and never sought to develop his economy. Most of the wealthy class hsve to stay home and not fly off to the riviera and also their kids stay home. Putin is complaining of the rising of an iron curtain but he was the one who raised it.

 

Syria is a mess because it was a mess. Which side should obama aid? Among the opposition are some militant dredges and letting arms trickle to them can do harm no less that left Libya in tatters. Further, the American public does not want the nation here.

 

You ,may not like the policies and like some of the republicans in congress may be clamoring for military solutions but look around you, where is the evidence that intervention succeed as the best strategy?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

I  see you've been nurturing your stupidity to unleash it from time to time. You can now crawl back to your bubble and leave real life for real people.

Kari
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Obama is a very good President BUT the White Boys in Congress will NEVER allow him to be a GREAT President.

He passed a major piece of socioeconomic legislation the likes we have not seen since Ronald Regan started dismantling the protections against rampant distorted capitalism.

 

He stopped two wars (one whose process tarted under Bush - Iraq).

 

He introduce consumer and banking protection following the 2008 collapse.

 

He has put American education on the path of science and technology following the lure of the brightest brains to financial wizardry that led to the 2008 collapse.

 

He has made America respected in the world following the distrust of the Bush years.

 

He has kept us out of stupid wars like Syria vs Al Qaeda, and pushing Russia in their own backyard. He has supported democratic forces in the Arab Spring, and kept Iran from going nuclear.

 

 

 

 

Kari
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

u really should stick to PPP race propaganda and cussin universal blackman

 

more your bailiwick . . . more your style

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

u really should stick to PPP race propaganda and cussin universal blackman

 

more your bailiwick . . . more your style

Has nothing to do with race, just performance.  Tell me where I was unfair.

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Obama is a very good President BUT the White Boys in Congress will NEVER allow him to be a GREAT President.

He passed a major piece of socioeconomic legislation the likes we have not seen since Ronald Regan started dismantling the protections against rampant distorted capitalism.

 

He stopped two wars (one whose process tarted under Bush - Iraq).

 

He introduce consumer and banking protection following the 2008 collapse.

 

He has put American education on the path of science and technology following the lure of the brightest brains to financial wizardry that led to the 2008 collapse.

 

He has made America respected in the world following the distrust of the Bush years.

 

He has kept us out of stupid wars like Syria vs Al Qaeda, and pushing Russia in their own backyard. He has supported democratic forces in the Arab Spring, and kept Iran from going nuclear.

 

 

 

 

Do you ever re-read your pig-swill?

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

I  see you've been nurturing your stupidity to unleash it from time to time. You can now crawl back to your bubble and leave real life for real people.

You are not real katahar, you live in you make-believe world and talk so much you actually believe your own stupidity.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

After eight years we need a Republican in the white house to regain America's global power and integrity. I heard Jeb Bush is running for the white house. His name alone will make the world shivers.

FM
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Originally Posted by Cobra:
After eight years we need a Republican in the white house to regain America's global power and integrity. I heard Jeb Bush is running for the white house. His name alone will make the world shivers.

There will again be a Democrat as President of the US_of_A. 

 

Jeb Bush will hide in the bush.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
After eight years we need a Republican in the white house to regain America's global power and integrity. I heard Jeb Bush is running for the white house. His name alone will make the world shivers.

There will again be a Democrat as President of the US_of_A. 

 

Jeb Bush will hide in the bush.

I was thinking to change my voters registration from Republican to Independent, but I will leave it unchanged for now.  I am waiting to see if Bush will come out of the bush.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
After eight years we need a Republican in the white house to regain America's global power and integrity. I heard Jeb Bush is running for the white house. His name alone will make the world shivers.

There will again be a Democrat as President of the US_of_A. 

 

Jeb Bush will hide in the bush.

I was thinking to change my voters registration from Republican to Independent, but I will leave it unchanged for now.  I am waiting to see if Bush will come out of the bush.

You may wait for more that 28 years for that to occur.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
After eight years we need a Republican in the white house to regain America's global power and integrity. I heard Jeb Bush is running for the white house. His name alone will make the world shivers.

There will again be a Democrat as President of the US_of_A. 

 

Jeb Bush will hide in the bush.

I was thinking to change my voters registration from Republican to Independent, but I will leave it unchanged for now.  I am waiting to see if Bush will come out of the bush.

Jeb will be bad news for the repubs. George said that if Jeb became president and needed advice, he(George would be there). God help us!

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
After eight years we need a Republican in the white house to regain America's global power and integrity. I heard Jeb Bush is running for the white house. His name alone will make the world shivers.

There will again be a Democrat as President of the US_of_A. 

 

Jeb Bush will hide in the bush.

I was thinking to change my voters registration from Republican to Independent, but I will leave it unchanged for now.  I am waiting to see if Bush will come out of the bush.

Jeb will be bad news for the repubs. George said that if Jeb became president and needed advice, he(George would be there). God help us!

Two Bushes will have all the people in the bush.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

u really should stick to PPP race propaganda and cussin universal blackman

 

more your bailiwick . . . more your style

Has nothing to do with race, just performance.  Tell me where I was unfair.

listen up baseman

 

i NEVER claimed your post was about "race"

 

in fact, i admonished that u should STICK to cheap race baiting . . . it's what u do; it's what u do WELL

 

i also NEVER claimed u were "unfair"

 

just out of your 'area of expertise' . . . just flat out DUMB!

 

kapeesh?

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
After eight years we need a Republican in the white house to regain America's global power and integrity. I heard Jeb Bush is running for the white house. His name alone will make the world shivers.

There will again be a Democrat as President of the US_of_A. 

 

Jeb Bush will hide in the bush.

I was thinking to change my voters registration from Republican to Independent, but I will leave it unchanged for now.  I am waiting to see if Bush will come out of the bush.

Jeb will be bad news for the repubs. George said that if Jeb became president and needed advice, he(George would be there). God help us!

Two Bushes will have all the people in the bush.

Obama do take advise from Romney on occasions. They meet at times to discuss political issues.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Obama is a very good President BUT the White Boys in Congress will NEVER allow him to be a GREAT President.

He passed a major piece of socioeconomic legislation the likes we have not seen since Ronald Regan started dismantling the protections against rampant distorted capitalism.

 

He stopped two wars (one whose process tarted under Bush - Iraq).

 

He introduce consumer and banking protection following the 2008 collapse.

 

He has put American education on the path of science and technology following the lure of the brightest brains to financial wizardry that led to the 2008 collapse.

 

He has made America respected in the world following the distrust of the Bush years.

 

He has kept us out of stupid wars like Syria vs Al Qaeda, and pushing Russia in their own backyard. He has supported democratic forces in the Arab Spring, and kept Iran from going nuclear.

 

 

 

 

Do you ever re-read your pig-swill?

You know BasementMan, you are speaking like an ideologue full of hatred for a black man. You have chosen not to address the things I mentioned; instead "Do you ever re-read your pig-swill?". Like Ii said man, go crawl back into that bubble of yours.

Kari
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

 

Obama is indeed the auguring stock on foreign policy....he has none. Putin pokes his finger in Obama's eye and all Obama can do is take it and sit down like one lil boy.

 

Obama's foreign policy is disgraceful. All he can do is talk and talk is cheap.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Obama is indeed the auguring stock on foreign policy....he has none. Putin pokes his finger in Obama's eye and all Obama can do is take it and sit down like one lil boy.

 

Obama's foreign policy is disgraceful. All he can do is talk and talk is cheap.

"auguring" . . . WTF is that!??

FM
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Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

 

Obama is indeed the auguring stock on foreign policy....he has none. Putin pokes his finger in Obama's eye and all Obama can do is take it and sit down like one lil boy.

 

Obama's foreign policy is disgraceful. All he can do is talk and talk is cheap.

Name one US foreign policy interest that has been harmed by Putin.

 

While you're at it, name some foreign policy interests of the US that have been enhanced by Putin.

 

The answers above would look lie this:

 

US interests harmed - None.

 

US interests helped - containing Iran's nuclear ambition through sanctions; getting Syria to get rid of its chemical weapons; continuing to reduce Russia's nuclear stockpile; and there are more.

 

This guy is talking out of his ass. Putin poked some proverbial finger in Obama's eye - what poking Putin did other than shove it up your ass? Know what you speak of before sounding like Bill O'Reilly of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. For a Guyanese commenting on US foreign policy interest you're a dick. Gwan suh!

Kari

By any measure Obama is on the path to achieve what he outlined at the start of his Administration:

  1. Pivot to Asia. - strengthen the ASEAN countries in the face of China's probe into expansionism (see Japan's island and Malaysia and the Philippines over disputed islands).
  2. Reset relations with Russia - following Bush's tepid response to Russia's actions in Georgia and slowness in nuclear weapons destruction.
  3. Get Israel to talk to the Palestinians following Bush's absolute backing to Ariel Sharon and the Bibi Netanyahu.
  4. Prevented bloodshed after the Arab street uprising.
  5. Strengthening the EU's financial system.
  6. Most of all use less force after the Iraq debacle, but use American power of example.

 

Anybody got a problem with the above?

Kari
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

the Russians thumbing their nose at us

 

Have you checked the Russian Ruble and the Russian economy recently following Obama turning the screws? Has Russia gained any friends recently? Have they invented some military weapon system that makes the US look second-rate?

 

the ME in chaos

 

Do you see the Israel shelling of Palestinians and the suicide attacks and so on that marked the Bush years when he ceded US foreign policy to Sharon and Bibi?

 

Syria and Iran show us their middle finger

 

Do you see Iran advancing a nuclear weapons ssytem that they ramped up under Bush as he was distracted by Iraq which also gave the Iran Shiites more power?

 

Do you see how Assad doesn't have control over a vast swath of his own country?

 

long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt

 

What would Bush have done? Give more weapons to Mubarak and then see one of the worst slaughters in human history? Could Mubarak have fired upon hundreds of thousands in Tahrir Square while Bush looked on?

 

Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.

 

Karzai did this under Bush and Obama is pulling out. What does this tell you?

 

Baseman, you are out of your league in commenting about world affairs. You are eminently qualified to call Obama names like clown as you are a patent racist and bigot. You hate the black man. Why don't you preface every attack on Obama with that statement? Answer me!!

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Look at what Obama has brought us to, the Russians thumbing their nose at us, the ME in chaos, Israel tells the Palestinians and Obama go screw themselves, Syria and Iran show us their middle finger.

 

Look at what we did to long-time friend Mubarak of Egypt now the new rulers have just condemned 650 opposition to death and Obama's administration just approved $650 mil aid.  Karzai chose the Taliban as a partner over the US.  Who would ever take this clown seriously.

 

Obama is indeed the auguring stock on foreign policy....he has none. Putin pokes his finger in Obama's eye and all Obama can do is take it and sit down like one lil boy.

 

Obama's foreign policy is disgraceful. All he can do is talk and talk is cheap.

Name one US foreign policy interest that has been harmed by Putin.

 

While you're at it, name some foreign policy interests of the US that have been enhanced by Putin.

 

The answers above would look lie this:

 

US interests harmed - None.

 

US interests helped - containing Iran's nuclear ambition through sanctions; getting Syria to get rid of its chemical weapons; continuing to reduce Russia's nuclear stockpile; and there are more.

 

This guy is talking out of his ass. Putin poked some proverbial finger in Obama's eye - what poking Putin did other than shove it up your ass? Know what you speak of before sounding like Bill O'Reilly of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. For a Guyanese commenting on US foreign policy interest you're a dick. Gwan suh!

 

Five Ways Obama's Foreign Policies Have Failed

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On a Moscow train platform, two men smoke and swap rumors in the frozen evening air.

“I hear they’ve raised the Russian flag in Donetsk?” one says.

“I hear Crimea, too.”

So reports freelance journalist Noah Sneider in Slate.

As Russian troops hoisted their flag over Crimea, President Obama’s highly touted “reset” diplomacy crashed and burned. The Russian reset was to have been the crown jewel of Mr. Obama’s statecraft, the start of a new era in which Washington and Moscow worked together to solve the world’s problems. That naÃŊve dream burst when Vladimir Putin ordered his tanks to roll.

But botched relations with the Russians is just the latest and arguably most dramatic failure of White House foreign policy. This administration has suffered a global string of setback. Here are five previous failures the Oval Office hopes most of us never noticed or won’t remember.

â€Ē The empty pivot: Mr. Obama grandly announced the U.S. was shifting its focus to Asia. This would allow us to cope better with China’s role as an emerging power, guiding Beijing in a constructive direction. So where’s the beef?

In Hong Kong, Beijing has yet to make good on is its 1997 promise of universal suffrage. Indeed, China is actively working to postpone it indefinitely. The U.S. is silent.

In Taiwan, there is growing insecurity over cross-straits relations, and the Obama administration remains largely indifferent. Its efforts at economic engagement with Taiwan have been anemic and grudging. Regarding security, Obama has not approved an arms transfer to Taiwan in more than two years, violating the spirit if not the letter of the U.S.-Taiwan Relations Act. Taiwan desperately needs hardware, especially fighter jets and submarines. Yet, no help is on the horizon.

â€Ē North Africa nightmare: In battling transnational terrorism and promoting regional stability, Morocco was a solid U.S. ally. But Washington has so bungled the relationship the countries are now barely on speaking terms.

And everyone remembers “Benghazi,” but few are paying attention to what’s happening in Libya now. It has devolved into a completely failed state, worse than Somalia.

â€Ē Middle East Meltdown: Countries in the Gulf Cooperation Council once stood as a reliable firebreak against the expansion of Iranian meddling. Now, the GCC is in the middle of a de facto civil war; Qatar is funding the Muslim Brotherhood to destabilize Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. Iraq is worse off than when Obama took office. A once dependably pro-Western Jordan overwhelmed with refugees from Syria, is now teetering. And through it all, the administration wastes time “negotiating” with Tehran and brokering a non-existent Palestinian-Israeli peace accord.

â€Ē Latin America Civil War: Latin America is in turmoil, too, as socialist states square off against nascent free-market democracies. Venezuela is approaching failed state status. And the administration has been worse than useless. Its top initiative seeks to force Columbia to negotiate with the FARC, a narco-terrorist group that almost destroyed the country and is now moving to fill the power vacuum in Venezuela.

â€Ē Antarctic Antics: At the bottom of the world, China is establishing a presence that will allow it to make a grab for that continent’s resources. Fighting over Antarctica’s abundance is still decades off, but ignoring Beijing’s icy “battleground preparations” makes no sense.

Each one of these developments is unfortunate. Taken together, they are tragic–and overwhelming proof of the failure of the Obama Doctrine. That doctrine assumed that all foreign relations problems could be fixed with “smart power.” They can’t.

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FM
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