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Obama’s Executive Order on Immigration Is Unlikely to Include Health Benefits

WASHINGTON — Millions of undocumented immigrants who are set to be granted a form of legal status by President Obama as early as this week will not receive one key benefit: government subsidies for health care available under the Affordable Care Act.

Mr. Obama is preparing to use his executive authority to provide work permits for up to five million people who are in the United States illegally, and to shield them from deportation. But an official familiar with the administration’s deliberations said on Tuesday that such people would not be eligible for subsidized, low-cost plans from the government’s health insurance marketplace, HealthCare.gov.

 

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the president has not announced details of the plan, said the immigrants would most likely be treated the same way that so-called Dreamers — undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children — were under a similar executive action in 2012. The Dreamers did not receive health care benefits.

 

The decision would reflect the political sensitivities that arise when there is a collision between two of the most divisive issues in Washington: health care and immigration. It would also underline the White House preference for not risking the fury of conservative lawmakers who have long opposed providing government health care to illegal immigrants, and who fought intensely to deny such immigrants coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

“The costs of extending these programs to millions of low-wage illegal immigrants would be enormous,” said Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the senior Republican on the Senate Budget Committee. “This is yet another danger posed to Americans by the president’s unconstitutional action.”

 

But a White House decision to deny health care benefits to the immigrants would also fall far short of the kind of full membership in American society that activists have spent decades fighting for. The immigrants would also be unlikely to receive benefits like food stamps, Medicaid coverage or other need-based federal programs offered to citizens and to some legal residents.

White House officials declined to provide details about the president’s plan. But because the executive actions will be an extension of Mr. Obama’s 2012 policy on Dreamers, the immigrants included in Mr. Obama’s orders will not be granted full legal status. Mr. Obama has

 

there are limits to what he can do with executive authority, and he has urged Congress to pass a more comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws that could provide a way for immigrants to become citizens eventually.

 

In the meantime, the health care restriction may be the most immediate concern for many immigrants, and for campaigners who have urged Mr. Obama to act to prevent deportations. Advocates for immigrant rights were infuriated in 2012 when the White House ruled that Dreamers would not get subsidized insurance coverage.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11...immigrants.html?_r=0

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Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

Well..first things first...let's get them legal

Yes, legal work papers will really help, and then the thought of deportation will not be a worry too.

 

Obama finally comes through for the illegals.

FM
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

votes bai...votes

THis is not an amnesty bill. It is just a stay order to deportation and a grant of work permit for those who qualify. It will ease up some burdens of being in t he dark, plane and train travel, license to drive join clubs and even purchase homes. The lack of health benefits do not preclude health care at a slightly higher premium. It is a first step

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

votes bai...votes

THis is not an amnesty bill. It is just a stay order to deportation and a grant of work permit for those who qualify. It will ease up some burdens of being in t he dark, plane and train travel, license to drive join clubs and even purchase homes. The lack of health benefits do not preclude health care at a slightly higher premium. It is a first step

I understand, but this gets the legal Hispanics (and Asian) vote

FM

A long time was given for the Republicans to collectively address the issue.

 

President Barack Obama will soon make a decision by executive order, similar to those used by former Republican Presidents.

FM
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

votes bai...votes

THis is not an amnesty bill. It is just a stay order to deportation and a grant of work permit for those who qualify. It will ease up some burdens of being in t he dark, plane and train travel, license to drive join clubs and even purchase homes. The lack of health benefits do not preclude health care at a slightly higher premium. It is a first step

I understand, but this gets the legal Hispanics (and Asian) vote

Lets be real...Asians ( Indians chinese etc) are 99% republicans.What for I do not know. Guyanese Indians are the same. Hispanics include Cubans who are all republicans.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

votes bai...votes

THis is not an amnesty bill. It is just a stay order to deportation and a grant of work permit for those who qualify. It will ease up some burdens of being in t he dark, plane and train travel, license to drive join clubs and even purchase homes. The lack of health benefits do not preclude health care at a slightly higher premium. It is a first step

I understand, but this gets the legal Hispanics (and Asian) vote

Lets be real...Asians ( Indians chinese etc) are 99% republicans.What for I do not know. Guyanese Indians are the same. Hispanics include Cubans who are all republicans.

Some Guyanese think Republicans are PPP and Democrats are PNC

FM
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

votes bai...votes

THis is not an amnesty bill. It is just a stay order to deportation and a grant of work permit for those who qualify. It will ease up some burdens of being in t he dark, plane and train travel, license to drive join clubs and even purchase homes. The lack of health benefits do not preclude health care at a slightly higher premium. It is a first step

I understand, but this gets the legal Hispanics (and Asian) vote

Lets be real...Asians ( Indians chinese etc) are 99% republicans.What for I do not know. Guyanese Indians are the same. Hispanics include Cubans who are all republicans.

Some Guyanese think Republicans are PPP and Democrats are PNC

Bhai, Stormy is wrong. If that was the case REpublicans will win always.

Nehru
Last edited by Nehru
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

A long time was given for the Republicans to collectively address the issue.

 

President Barack Obama will soon make a decision by executive order, similar to those used by former Republican Presidents.

Obama is the best thing since slice bread. I can't wait to hear his plant tomorrow. 

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

votes bai...votes

THis is not an amnesty bill. It is just a stay order to deportation and a grant of work permit for those who qualify. It will ease up some burdens of being in t he dark, plane and train travel, license to drive join clubs and even purchase homes. The lack of health benefits do not preclude health care at a slightly higher premium. It is a first step

I understand, but this gets the legal Hispanics (and Asian) vote

Lets be real...Asians ( Indians chinese etc) are 99% republicans.What for I do not know. Guyanese Indians are the same. Hispanics include Cubans who are all republicans.

Some Guyanese think Republicans are PPP and Democrats are PNC

Bhai, Stormy is wrong. If that was the case REpublicans will win always.

Dude, you know I tell the truth. I remember asking Jodah, why he is a republican. I cannot remember his answer but I presume he learnt his lesson and switched.

 

Check the stats on voting patterns this past election you will see that I am speaking from a firm understanding.

 

Republicans and democrats are only separated by a thin margin.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

The Cubans only make a difference in FL...and it's always competitive there

Florida accounts for some 29 electoral votes and they are always the fly in the cream.  Florida is almost red except for Tallahassee area in the pan handle, and the southern  tip including Miami with  Orlando and Tampa in the middle

FM

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