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Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by redux:

Most of India is observing Nov. 11; however, Delhi, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Chhattisgarh, Kerala and some of the Union Territories observe Nov. 10 . . . it's simply interpretations of various lunar calendars u fools

 

why doan i hear nothing over there about anybady "disrespecting" Hinduism, eh?

 

what is the freakin problem? . . . ignorant Guyanese fetchin political wata for barrat and he one-eye gang of witches brewing racism and division in the stinkin bowels of Freedom House

 

smfh

In Guyana's case, this got nothing to do with lunar calender...I aint hear Ramjattan seh anything bout that

This is all politics

read his statement again

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by redux:

Most of India is observing Nov. 11; however, Delhi, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Chhattisgarh, Kerala and some of the Union Territories observe Nov. 10 . . . it's simply interpretations of various lunar calendars u fools

 

why doan i hear nothing over there about anybady "disrespecting" Hinduism, eh?

 

what is the freakin problem? . . . ignorant Guyanese fetchin political wata for barrat and he one-eye gang of witches brewing racism and division in the stinkin bowels of Freedom House

 

smfh

In Guyana's case, this got nothing to do with lunar calender...I aint hear Ramjattan seh anything bout that

This is all politics

read his statement again

ok, I am wrong....

 

I get the lunar thing...

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by redux:

Most of India is observing Nov. 11; however, Delhi, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Chhattisgarh, Kerala and some of the Union Territories observe Nov. 10 . . . it's simply interpretations of various lunar calendars u fools

 

why doan i hear nothing over there about anybady "disrespecting" Hinduism, eh?

 

what is the freakin problem? . . . ignorant Guyanese fetchin political wata for barrat and he one-eye gang of witches brewing racism and division in the stinkin bowels of Freedom House

 

smfh

In Guyana's case, this got nothing to do with lunar calender...I aint hear Ramjattan seh anything bout that

This is all politics

read his statement again

ok, I am wrong....

 

I get the lunar thing...

u are a gentleman, sir

FM
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

Why don't you celebrate both days then....Muslims do it all the time

Nov 10th is Deepavali

Nov 11th is Diwali

Why are Bindia and chorus so bent on a street parade when Hindus should  focus on performing the pujas at home or the temples?

Mitwah

 

The Diwali date is November 10

 

Dear Editor,

If what is being articulated by some representatives of the Hindu community were to be realized, then, for the first time in Guyana, there could be two celebrations for Diwali on different nights. The date on the calendar, as prepared by the Guyana Hindu Dharmic Sabha is November 11, 2015. However, the other Hindu Organizations are disputing this, claiming that the correct date is November 10.

I have examined the Guyana Hindu Dharmic Sabha’s arguments for Diwali to be observed on November 11. Dr. Vindhya Persaud of the Dharmic Sabha claims that the Sabha’s findings are based on the Bhavani Shankar Panchang (ephemeris). I very much doubt this. Bhavani Shankar Panchang does not conflict or differ from the 100-year, Kaashi, or any other Panchangs for that matter.

Everybody agrees that Diwali is celebrated in the evening of Amavasya, (15th lunar day), in the month of Kartik (November). The logical thing to do is to determine the evening of Amavasya. To do this, you have to firstly establish the duration of Amavasya – its starting and finishing time – in order to situate Diwali within this period. I know of no other method. Every event within the Hindu calendar is located within an Astrological time-frame. Time in Hinduism is Lunar, measured by the phases of the moon.

I shall use the very Bhavani Shankar Panchang to show that Diwali is in fact November 10. The starting figure is given in the ephemeris. The formula is standard. I start with ‘Chaturdasi’ (14th lunar day), then go over to ‘Amavasya’ (15th lunar day) to establish the duration or time-frame of Amavasya.

 

Duration of ‘Chaturdasi’          Duration of ‘Amavasya’

Tues. Nov. 10                           Nov. 11

36:05 x by 2 = 72:10                       40:48   x by 2 = 81:36

Divided by 5 = 14::26                      Divided by 5     = 16:19

Add Rising Sun   06:38                      Add Rising Sun     06:38

= 21:04          = 22:57

Less          9:30hrs.             Less          9:30hrs.

Ends at         11:34 AM          Ends at          13:27hrs

(01:27PM)

(Chaturdashi ends at 11:34 AM,

(Amavasya ends at 1:27PM)

And Amaavasya begins at 11:34AM).

 

From the calculation above, we see that Amavasya begins at 11:34 AM on November 10, runs the entire night of November 10, and finishes at 01:27 PM on November 11. Which evening, then, is Amavasya? November 10, of course! This is supported by all other Hindu Organizations, viz, Pandits Council, Viraat Sabha, Maha Sabha, Pandit’s Sabha of Region 3, Gandhi Youth, and Cove & John Ashram.

To perform Lakshmi Puja in celebration of Diwali at 6:00pm on November 11 is to celebrate Diwali outside of Amavasya, i.e. after the duration of the new moon. Even Dr. Persaud has admitted this in her statement, “performing Maha Lakshmi Puja at 6pm on November 11 would, therefore, be 4 hours later than the exact Amavasya/new moon moment …”

There will be no confusion or “breach of Hindu tradition”, as claimed by Dr. Persaud, in the celebration of Yam Deep, Narak Chaturdasi, Diwali, Goverdhan Puja and Bhai Dhuj. Doing the calculations, these days will be observed as follows:

Day 1 – Yam Deep.                   Trayodasi – Sunday 8.

Day 2 – Narak Chaturdasi.          Chaturdasi – Monday 9.

Day 3 – Diwali.                   Amavasya – Tuesday 10

Day 4 – Goverdhan Puja.                 Pratipada – Wednesday 11.

Day 5 – Bhai Dhuj.                    Dwitiya – Thursday 12.

According to the above, and supported by all the Panchangs, Chaturdasi and Diwali will be observed on different days – the evenings of the 9th and 10th, respectively.

That some organizations in the U.S.A. will be celebrating Diwali on November 11 is not cogent reason for us in Guyana to follow suit. On the other hand, there are over one hundred Mandirs in North America who will be celebrating Diwali on November 10.

Dharmic Sabha’s case for celebrating Diwali on November 11 is very much flawed and leaves much to be desired, to say the least. It is based more on sentiment and not on any of the Panchangs.

Yours faithfully, Pt. R. Balbadar (Sanskrit and Vaidic Theology, Dip.)

 

http://www.stabroeknews.com/20...date-is-november-10/

Mitwah

Doing the calculations, these days will be observed as follows:

Day 1 – Yam Deep.                   Trayodasi – Sunday 8.

Day 2 – Narak Chaturdasi.          Chaturdasi – Monday 9.

Day 3 – Diwali.                   Amavasya – Tuesday 10

Day 4 – Goverdhan Puja.                 Pratipada – Wednesday 11.

Day 5 – Bhai Dhuj.                    Dwitiya – Thursday 12

Mitwah
Last edited by Mitwah

Diwali, also known as Deepavali, Dipavali, Dewali, Deepawali or the Festival of Lights, marks the beginning of the Hindu New Year. It is celebrated on the 15th day of Kartika (October/November) in the Hindu calendar. Diwali celebrations can last for about five days.

 

Story done.  Let us have a 5 day dewali holiday.

 

What aszes we have in Guyana.

FM
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UK celebrates Dewali on November 11th 2015

 

Diwali Calendar / Diwali Date

When is Diwali 2015? : November 11th, Wednesday

Diwali date changes every year as the day is calculated according to the position of the moon. Find out when is Diwali 2015 in this exclusive Diwali Calendar!! The detailed calendar page clearly points out Diwali Date 2015. Also find out Diwali Date for the past and coming year in the Diwali Calendar 2009 and Diwali Calendar 2015.

According to Hindu reckoning, the date of Diwali falls on 15th day of the dark fortnight in the auspicious Hindu month of Kartik or the month of October/November in English calendar. This Diwali day falls on the amavasya or the no moon day. Diwali date comes 20 days after the popular festival of Dussehra or Vijaya Dashmi. 

 

source:  http://www.diwalifestival.org/diwali-calendar.html

FM

http://goindia.about.com/od/in...f/When-Is-Diwali.htm

 

When is Diwali in 2015, 2016, and 2017?

Diwali falls in either October or November each year, depending on the cycle of the moon. It's observed on the 15th day of Kartik, the holiest month in the Hindu lunar calendar.

  • In 2015, Diwali is on November 11.  (See calendar).
  • In 2016, Diwali is on October 30.
  • In 2017, Diwali is on October 19.

You all tell rumjattan early so he does f-up again in 2016.

FM

Diwali 2015: Let The Lights Pierce The Darkness!

  

Diwali 2015 Date

11th

November 2015

(Wednesday)

  

Diwali in 2015 is on November 11. On Deepawali in 2015, let the lights pierce into the darkness of the world. Even if you are not in India, you can notice the dark skies penetrated by lights on the night of Diwali. Read below to know more about Deepawali...

 

 

source:  http://www.astrosage.com/festival/diwali/

 

 

even the astrologers says November 11.

FM

America hold dewali on November 11.  

 

*All Jewish and Islamic holidays begin at sundown on the evening before the date given.

November

All Saints' Day (Sun., Nov. 1, 2015)

A Roman Catholic and Anglican holiday celebrating all saints, known and unknown.

Election Day (Tues., Nov. 3, 2015)

Since 1845, by act of Congress, the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November is the date for choosing presidential electors. State elections are also generally held on this day. The date is a legal holiday in certain states.

Presidential Trivia

Veterans Day (Observed on Wed., Nov. 11, 2015)

Armistice Day, a federal holiday, was established in 1926 to commemorate the signing in 1918 of the armistice ending World War I. On June 1, 1954, the name was changed to Veterans Day to honor all men and women who have served America in its armed forces.

Veterans Day

Diwali (Wed., Nov. 11, 2015)

Diwali, the Hindu "festival of lights," is the best known of Hindu festivals. Diwali generally lasts for five days, beginning on the 14th day of the dark half of the Hindu calendar month of Asvina. It is celebrated throughout India and its diaspora.

Diwali: Festival of Lights

Thanksgiving (Thurs., Nov. 26, 2015)

A federal holiday observed the fourth Thursday in November by act of Congress (1941), it was the first such national proclamation issued by President Lincoln in 1863, on the urging of Mrs. Sarah J. Hale, editor of Godey's Lady's Book. Most Americans believe that the holiday dates back to the day of thanks ordered by Governor Bradford of Plymouth Colony in New England in 1621, but scholars point out that days of thanks stem from ancient times.

 

 

source:http://www.infoplease.com/spot/holidays.html

FM
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:

http://goindia.about.com/od/in...f/When-Is-Diwali.htm

 

When is Diwali in 2015, 2016, and 2017?

Diwali falls in either October or November each year, depending on the cycle of the moon. It's observed on the 15th day of Kartik, the holiest month in the Hindu lunar calendar.

  • In 2015, Diwali is on November 11.  (See calendar).
  • In 2016, Diwali is on October 30.
  • In 2017, Diwali is on October 19.

You all tell rumjattan early so he does f-up again in 2016.

Your website is for India. It is different for Guyana.

 

http://www.stabroeknews.com/20...date-is-november-10/

 

The Diwali date is November 10

Mars

for 2015, Most of India is observing Nov. 11; however, Delhi, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Chhattisgarh, Kerala and some of the Union Territories are observing Nov. 10 . . . it's simply interpretations of various lunar calendars u fools

 

why doan i hear nothing over there about anybady "disrespecting" Hinduism, eh?

 

what is the freakin problem? . . . ignorant Guyanese fetchin political wata for barrat and he one-eye gang of witches brewing racism and division in the stinkin bowels of Freedom House

 

smfh

FM

Cobra, yuji, and the rest of the Indo KKK must terrify themselves in anticipation of a PNC Amazonian female, with a super cyat, scrambling them on the street, and completely emasculating them. 

 

After all these Amazonians are the ones who decided the 10th, when the PPP affiliated Hindu organization always had its way.

 

The Indo KKK get orgasms in anticipation of this sadomasocist abuse.

FM
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:

Diwali 2015: Let The Lights Pierce The Darkness!

  

Diwali 2015 Date

11th

November 2015

(Wednesday)

  

Diwali in 2015 is on November 11. On Deepawali in 2015, let the lights pierce into the darkness of the world. Even if you are not in India, you can notice the dark skies penetrated by lights on the night of Diwali. Read below to know more about Deepawali...

 

 

source:  http://www.astrosage.com/festival/diwali/

 

 

even the astrologers says November 11.

Check your calendar; New Moon is on November 11th.  What is the difference between Deepavali versus Divali?

Mitwah

There are reports that Hindus in Guyana have a choice between 10th and 11th November for Diwali. Hindus could probably choose both. Hinduism’s practices are wonderfully diverse, and the migration of Hindus from India has resulted in many challenges in terms of adaptability and survival.

There have been other dates for Hindu festivities which have been different over the years. As with so many other beliefs and practices, there are persons who will have Hindu scriptural references to back up the dates. Perhaps all are right. We know the fable of the two blind men standing at the front and the back of the elephant describing what they feel with their hands. There are devout Hindus who thrive on the alcohol industry and there are devout and not so devout Hindus who campaign against alcohol consumption. There are devout Hindus who have supported oppressive political regimes while devout and not so devout Hindus have campaigned against the oppression.

The Government of course has to make a choice for the holiday. It seems that the 10th has been selected. Many organisations will probably adjust their activities accordingly. It might be easy for them. There is news that the Guyana Hindu Dharmic Sabha (GHDS) has the motorcade on the 10th November. It is reported that the Georgetown based motorcade is the “single largest event in the Guyanese calendar”. The logistics associated with this event must be enormous.

There must be participants, stakeholders, loyal patrons and sponsors of the GHDS motorcade who would not want to exclude the Georgetown/ECD based Hindus and others who will celebrate Diwali in their homes and communities on the 10th November. These participants, stakeholders, loyal patrons and sponsors and even the relevant Government agencies might want to work with the Guyana Hindu Dharmic Sabha to put forward the motorcade date in the spirit of universality and to make it easy.   This has the potential to not be about who is right and who is wrong, but rather transforming how consensus can be achieved when there are differing views, all of which are probably right.

Yours faithfully,

Vidyaratha Kissoon

 

http://www.stabroeknews.com/20...ensus-opportunities/

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

Why don't you celebrate both days then....Muslims do it all the time

It should be transparent. I is not bout the day. It is about bones to pick and highlighting coolie victimization as usual. If the administration had done one or the other they would still encounter criticism.  

 

 

Next year, the day should not be set until the two groups come together and secure the day per whatever Hindu authority they consult. If they cannot decide on a public stance on religious duties....do not participate

Atheists should keep out of religious matters. Why do you care, stick to Harry potter characters and Greek mythology. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

Why don't you celebrate both days then....Muslims do it all the time

It should be transparent. I is not bout the day. It is about bones to pick and highlighting coolie victimization as usual. If the administration had done one or the other they would still encounter criticism.  

 

 

Next year, the day should not be set until the two groups come together and secure the day per whatever Hindu authority they consult. If they cannot decide on a public stance on religious duties....do not participate

Atheists should keep out of religious matters. Why do you care, stick to Harry potter characters and Greek mythology. 

this is not about religious matter. Religion is what resulted in a bunch of confused idiots seeking astrologers to inform them on a scientific issue.  Science is essentially an atheistic enterprise. That includes medicine, biology, physics chemistry and their cementing glue mathematics and of course astronomy which would have save the day here. Harry Potter is more the skill set of religion. After all it is about forces and the existence of supernatural agencies and the need to keep them happy per ritual as these. Note, they were soliciting the aid of astrologers. They could aptly be supplied by Dumbledore and his army of wizards.

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:

Respected elder of the Guyanese community - Dr Yesu Persaud wrote Ramjutaan telling him that Nov 11th, 2015 is the DAY.

 

Ramjutatan yu wrong.

Kishan Bhai, how did he come up with Nov 11th? Please show his calculation and tell us which Panchang (ephemeris) he used.

 

 Mr. Ramjattan was advised and supported by all other Hindu Organizations, viz, Pandits Council, Viraat Sabha, Maha Sabha, Pandit’s Sabha of Region 3, Gandhi Youth, and Cove & John Ashram....

 

Mitwah
Stormborn posted:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

The point is that the date was set for Nov 11 (most of the Hindu world has this as the official date)....it seems Ramjattan wanted to make this thing political

Most of the Hindu world cannot set it on the same day...that is absurd. the new moon differs by a day across the globe. Indian and Guyana cannot have the same day set except arbitrarily   as they are different places on the globe.

 

Guyana is 4.9173° N, 58.9435° W and India is 23.4060° N, 79.4581° E. We calculate the spring and neap tides so why should we fail here? Both rely on the same formula.

Well said.

My Hindu Calendar is showing November 6th this year for Toronto, On. New Moon is on the 7th.

Mitwah

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