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Opposition coalition – a marriage of convenience?

Written by , Published in News, Georgetown, GINA, January 30, 2015, Source - GINA


The touted alliance between the two Parliamentary political opposition parties may yet turn out to be a marriage of convenience for one more than the other. Giving an analysis of the current talks which are said to be underway between the Alliance For Change (AFC) and the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU), Presidential Adviser on Governance Gail Teixeira, said that it remains to be seen what the reported  discussions between the two parties will actually realise.

 “… I know from my own experience that an attempt to do that (form a coalition) in the Patriotic Coalition for Democracy, in the best of times where we worked five years on this, wasn’t able to be achieved!”

She said that when she listens to the soundings from the media on the issue which indicate that the AFC leaders – Khemraj Ramjattan and Moses Nagamootoo would like to lead a potential coalition, it would be “interesting to see what comes out of the whole mix”.

The Presidential Adviser made these observations during an interview on the National Communications Network’s ‘Political Scope’ programme on Thursday.


She explained that the AFC at present is not the same party it was some five years ago and lacks the same support. “AFC members have left them to go to APNU and we know who they are. They’ve formed APNU branches, some of them. AFC has lost support in the Diaspora. It has lost support of some of the PPP members who voted for them, our supporters who voted for them have crossed back or are crossing back. The AFC doesn’t have the rigour or support that they came into the 2011 elections with. They are a shell of what they are”.

The elections contest, Teixeira said confidently, will be between the APNU and the PPP. AFC, she opined needs the coalition because they want to try to strengthen their hand. Whether the APNU needs the AFC is another issue. She added that statements made, purportedly by the AFC executives about exacting “retribution” on government figures and supporters is “not an indication of a party that wants to have national unity or wants to be a party of peace and development”. She noted that the PPP has been the longest serving political opposition party which has managed to return to power.

Describing the language emanating from the AFC leadership as “loaded and vitriolic”, she said that in contrast, one cannot find any statement made by any PPP leader about retribution of any kind, whether at a rally or in any media report in the pre 1992 elections. This, she added, is in spite of being in opposition for 28 years against a government that had rigged elections. “We never threatened retribution and all these things, and we know about the corruption that took place in the PNC, we know very well”. The worst of the afore-mentioned corruption practiced by the PNC now APNU, was the stealing of votes, Teixeira said. “They took away the right of our people of choice to choose their leaders, to choose their parties, and that is the biggest crime of the PNC. It has never apologised to the people that…this happened in a certain era and it won’t happen again, ever”.

The bullying by the AFC, she said is an attempt to show that “they are tough and strong and can do what they want”. These proposed actions by the AFC are not how a political party can build a nation and move it forward, she stated. Within the ruling party, the presidential adviser said, there were those who called on the leadership to “take care of things and deal with some of these people who were utter criminals” when they returned to office, but this line was never taken.

 “It was about trying to restore Guyana, to reconstruct Guyana and to recognise that one had to create a situation where people who had been supporters of the PNC felt there was a place for them. They were told ‘here is this Indian party and they are going to take over and black people are not going to have jobs, the public service and the police’. This is what they were told and we never allowed that to happen”.

 The PPP is a party of all ethnic groups and persons from all sections of society, the Presidential Adviser emphasised. “It is true that a large base of the PPP is Indo Guyanese, but we could never have won an election, even under free and fair elections with only Indo-Guyanese voting for us because Indo Guyanese is about 43%”. She noted that Afro-Guyanese amount to around 30% of the population and the Amerindians are 10%.

“The People’s Progressive Party Civic could never win an election on the basis of Indo-Guyanese and APNU cannot win an election if it is only to do with Afro-Guyanese”.

She observed that the APNU has what she described as a serious problem with diversity, both at the leadership level and at parliament, unlike the PPP which is more diverse at the leadership and at the grassroots levels. She added that the AFC is trying to promote itself as a multi-ethnic group, but it is not.

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Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

Dat is right Stormy. And May the Guyanese People wishes be RESPECTED.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

Dat is right Stormy. And May the Guyanese People wishes be RESPECTED.

 

You mean the paranoid wishes of the racial group that outnumbers the next racial group by at least 1 voter?

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

Dat is right Stormy. And May the Guyanese People wishes be RESPECTED.

 

You mean the paranoid wishes of the racial group that outnumbers the next racial group by at least 1 voter?

Whatever the margin, as long as the wishes of the Guyanese People are Paramount.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

Dat is right Stormy. And May the Guyanese People wishes be RESPECTED.

 

You mean the paranoid wishes of the racial group that outnumbers the next racial group by at least 1 voter?

Whatever the margin, as long as the wishes of the Guyanese People are Paramount.

 

You do understand that free and fair elections are component of a democracy (or republic) but not the whole picture, right?

 

Individual rights, free and open debate, strong and effective civil society, limits on government power, public corruption, political culture, and social cohesion/harmony.

 

Elections are not enough. And winning an election is not carte blanche to do whatever you feel like.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

 

You just shoved your arms elbow deep into your own ass and yanked out this prophecy huh?

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

Dat is right Stormy. And May the Guyanese People wishes be RESPECTED.

 

You mean the paranoid wishes of the racial group that outnumbers the next racial group by at least 1 voter?

Whatever the margin, as long as the wishes of the Guyanese People are Paramount.

 

You do understand that free and fair elections are component of a democracy (or republic) but not the whole picture, right?

 

Individual rights, free and open debate, strong and effective civil society, limits on government power, public corruption, political culture, and social cohesion/harmony.

 

Elections are not enough. And winning an election is not carte blanche to do whatever you feel like.

I am glad you are reinforcing such FACTS. Guyana then can be described as a DEMOCRACY in the TRUE sense

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

Dat is right Stormy. And May the Guyanese People wishes be RESPECTED.

 

You mean the paranoid wishes of the racial group that outnumbers the next racial group by at least 1 voter?

Whatever the margin, as long as the wishes of the Guyanese People are Paramount.

 

You do understand that free and fair elections are component of a democracy (or republic) but not the whole picture, right?

 

Individual rights, free and open debate, strong and effective civil society, limits on government power, public corruption, political culture, and social cohesion/harmony.

 

Elections are not enough. And winning an election is not carte blanche to do whatever you feel like.

I am glad you are reinforcing such FACTS. Guyana then can be described as a DEMOCRACY in the TRUE sense

 

No one would describe Guyana as a liberal democracy. At best it's an illiberal democracy. At worst, a racist apartheid state with elections.

 

Just look at how the President speaks to Amerindians and then one of his guards slaps them?

 

That was clearly done out of a lack of respect for Amerindians and their humanity. The slap was meant to show contempt and insult. The violence was secondary.

 

What kind of liberal democracy does this? I'm of the school that believes in looking at the treatment of minorities as a principal indicator of the health of a society and state. In this respect, Guyana fails miserably.

 

Where was the collective Indian outrage at this kind of vile behavior against a weak and marginal minority?

 

What does it say about us?

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

Dat is right Stormy. And May the Guyanese People wishes be RESPECTED.

 

You mean the paranoid wishes of the racial group that outnumbers the next racial group by at least 1 voter?

Whatever the margin, as long as the wishes of the Guyanese People are Paramount.

 

You do understand that free and fair elections are component of a democracy (or republic) but not the whole picture, right?

 

Individual rights, free and open debate, strong and effective civil society, limits on government power, public corruption, political culture, and social cohesion/harmony.

 

Elections are not enough. And winning an election is not carte blanche to do whatever you feel like.

I am glad you are reinforcing such FACTS. Guyana then can be described as a DEMOCRACY in the TRUE sense

 

No one would describe Guyana as a liberal democracy. At best it's an illiberal democracy. At worst, a racist apartheid state with elections.

 

Just look at how the President speaks to Amerindians and then one of his guards slaps them?

 

That was clearly done out of a lack of respect for Amerindians and their humanity. The slap was meant to show contempt and insult. The violence was secondary.

 

What kind of liberal democracy does this? I'm of the school that believes in looking at the treatment of minorities as a principal indicator of the health of a society and state. In this respect, Guyana fails miserably.

 

Where was the collective Indian outrage at this kind of vile behavior against a weak and marginal minority?

 

What does it say about us?

gUYANA HAS ONE OF THE MOST FREE PRESS. DEBATES ARE ALLOWED TO THE POINT WHERE THE GOVT IS LAMBASTED DAILY. BHAI YOU NEED TO GET THE FACTS!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

 

You just shoved your arms elbow deep into your own ass and yanked out this prophecy huh?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

You just shoved your arms elbow deep into your own ass and yanked out this prophecy huh?

You have clearly described your personal activities to gather information; and, perhaps, you will remain in that condition.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

You just shoved your arms elbow deep into your own ass and yanked out this prophecy huh?

You have clearly described your personal activities to gather information; and, perhaps, you will remain in that condition.

 

Sir,

 

If I was to ever shove my arm up my ass, it would have to be for solid non-academic purposes. It would not be a means of information gathering and analysis for intellectual discourse.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

You just shoved your arms elbow deep into your own ass and yanked out this prophecy huh?

You have clearly described your personal activities to gather information; and, perhaps, you will remain in that condition.

 

Sir,

 

If I was to ever shove my arm up my ass, it would have to be for solid non-academic purposes. It would not be a means of information gathering and analysis for intellectual discourse.

While you may want to deny your inured trait, highlighted in blue on your reference, your continued posts on GNI are for all to see and read.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

You just shoved your arms elbow deep into your own ass and yanked out this prophecy huh?

You have clearly described your personal activities to gather information; and, perhaps, you will remain in that condition.

 

Sir,

 

If I was to ever shove my arm up my ass, it would have to be for solid non-academic purposes. It would not be a means of information gathering and analysis for intellectual discourse.

While you may want to deny your inured trait, highlighted in blue on your reference, your continued posts on GNI are for all to see and read.

 

You are the quintessential moron Guyanese who fancies himself a modern day Socrates who can display his great erudition by attempting to use a dialect of English alien to his competence in a vain attempt to add beef to a personal opinion or position.

 

By the way old man, there's nothing wrong with having a different dialect of a language.

 

You don't have to come up with a style of writing and speaking that you think is favored by smart people holding smart opinions.

 

Your opinion is equally valid or invalid when conveyed using the language that is indeed usual or customary to your person.

FM

You are the quintessential moron Guyanese who fancies himself a modern day Socrates who can display his great erudition by attempting to use a dialect of English alien to his competence in a vain attempt to add beef to a personal opinion or position.

 

Bai Lucifer, you want fuh bruk dis down in fine change an gee abie?

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

You are the quintessential moron Guyanese who fancies himself a modern day Socrates who can display his great erudition by attempting to use a dialect of English alien to his competence in a vain attempt to add beef to a personal opinion or position.

 

Bai Lucifer, you want fuh bruk dis down in fine change an gee abie?

 

Translation:

 

Dis jackass ah use words he nah really hundastand fuh try and impress abbe that he lil bright hoping that this will mek he nonsense sound less schupid

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

You just shoved your arms elbow deep into your own ass and yanked out this prophecy huh?

You have clearly described your personal activities to gather information; and, perhaps, you will remain in that condition.

 

Sir,

 

If I was to ever shove my arm up my ass, it would have to be for solid non-academic purposes. It would not be a means of information gathering and analysis for intellectual discourse.

While you may want to deny your inured trait, highlighted in blue on your reference, your continued posts on GNI are for all to see and read.

 

You are the quintessential moron Guyanese who fancies himself a modern day Socrates who can display his great erudition by attempting to use a dialect of English alien to his competence in a vain attempt to add beef to a personal opinion or position.

 

By the way old man, there's nothing wrong with having a different dialect of a language.

 

You don't have to come up with a style of writing and speaking that you think is favored by smart people holding smart opinions.

 

Your opinion is equally valid or invalid when conveyed using the language that is indeed usual or customary to your person.

Irrelevant expression, it still remains ...

 

Succinctly ... "You - Shaitaan - can continue to deny your inured trait.

 

Your inner trait ... "shove my - Shaitaan's - arm up my - Shaitaan's -  ass."

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

You just shoved your arms elbow deep into your own ass and yanked out this prophecy huh?

You have clearly described your personal activities to gather information; and, perhaps, you will remain in that condition.

 

Sir,

 

If I was to ever shove my arm up my ass, it would have to be for solid non-academic purposes. It would not be a means of information gathering and analysis for intellectual discourse.

While you may want to deny your inured trait, highlighted in blue on your reference, your continued posts on GNI are for all to see and read.

 

You are the quintessential moron Guyanese who fancies himself a modern day Socrates who can display his great erudition by attempting to use a dialect of English alien to his competence in a vain attempt to add beef to a personal opinion or position.

 

By the way old man, there's nothing wrong with having a different dialect of a language.

 

You don't have to come up with a style of writing and speaking that you think is favored by smart people holding smart opinions.

 

Your opinion is equally valid or invalid when conveyed using the language that is indeed usual or customary to your person.

Irrelevant expression, it still remains ...

 

Succinctly ... "You - Shaitaan - can continue to deny your inured trait.

 

Your inner trait ... "shove my - Shaitaan's - arm up my - Shaitaan's -  ass."

 

There is no glory or honor to be found in beating up on a demented old man.

 

I just hope you're getting the care you so obviously need.

FM

The little schooling you guys have of many years and today you are given this podium to impress, I don't know who? Shaitaan you are the main culprit. In my days , I was told of "simplicity, brevity,and clarity. that's if you want to communicate .

K
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

If it was convenient to get rid of the PPP then it would be a good thing. The APNU has the numbers if it can get out its people so they do not care about the AFC.

PNC/APNU peaked in the 2011 elections with 40.83% of the votes.

You just shoved your arms elbow deep into your own ass and yanked out this prophecy huh?

You have clearly described your personal activities to gather information; and, perhaps, you will remain in that condition.

 

Sir,

 

If I was to ever shove my arm up my ass, it would have to be for solid non-academic purposes. It would not be a means of information gathering and analysis for intellectual discourse.

While you may want to deny your inured trait, highlighted in blue on your reference, your continued posts on GNI are for all to see and read.

 

You are the quintessential moron Guyanese who fancies himself a modern day Socrates who can display his great erudition by attempting to use a dialect of English alien to his competence in a vain attempt to add beef to a personal opinion or position.

 

By the way old man, there's nothing wrong with having a different dialect of a language.

 

You don't have to come up with a style of writing and speaking that you think is favored by smart people holding smart opinions.

 

Your opinion is equally valid or invalid when conveyed using the language that is indeed usual or customary to your person.

Irrelevant expression, it still remains ...

 

Succinctly ... "You - Shaitaan - can continue to deny your inured trait.

 

Your inner trait ... "shove my - Shaitaan's - arm up my - Shaitaan's -  ass."

 

There is no glory or honor to be found in beating up on a demented old man.

 

I just hope you're getting the care you so obviously need.

Your usual balderdash.

FM

Granger is APNU's presidential candidate, no room for Moses Nagamootoo. Most likely Roopnarine may replace himself as PM. I see a lot of trouble brewing for both parties in the face of early election.

FM

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