Dem bais nah even win yet but they're already sharing out de wimmin of the soon to be defeated population

One coolie homan fuh me

One coolie homan fuh Uncle Llewellyn

One coolie homan fuh Uncle Colin

does this mean kwame and yugi can get a house lot

LOL

Come in Snake. Come in Snake. We need your advice on this here PNC Douglarization Policy

This thread is racist and should be closed.

Translation:

This thread embarrasses me and my Coalition of Black Power adherents and Useful Indian idiots.

Why is it racist?  Does the notion of Indians and blacks marrying each other appall you?

Funny how we soon find out the truth about people!

CaribJ how do you swallow Goat Shit like this everytime.

You must believe this is Channa yuh chiewing.

CaribJ.....Tha Lil Boy know de difference

the thread should NOT be closed!

it needs to stand as the true face of the Shaitaans on this BB who miss no opportunity to push the psychosexual buttons of the insecure in what is actually a rearguard effort supporting continued 'Indo-PPP' rule

Interracial does not mean coolie woman plus black man. It can mean Amerind and Chinese or mixed and mixed etc.  I do not think there is a need to offer house lots based on any criteria except need. 

Further, I would not be giving a poor destitute couple ( which is 90% of them) a house lot with out the ability to build on it. I would therefore formulate a system that affords low interest loans plus tax incentives so the couple can build.

Additionally,  I would bootstrap a company that makes pre fab elements for quick build out of homes based on tried and true designs. This has to be a symbiosis between government, financing and construction. None of these are difficult processes since the volume of need would not only put lots of people to work but will assist small construction companies, and create opening for lots of jobs.

We can also make sure that all of these homes have built in alternative energy supply.

By Jomo Paul

APNU Member, Christopher Jones.

[www.inewsguyana.com] – The Organisation – Youths for David Granger (YDG) – says it has submitted a proposal to the leadership of the A Partnership for National Unity/Alliance for Change (APNU/AFC) coalition that would see newlyweds being given a plot of land compliments of the government.

The proposal, if accepted by the coalition’s Leadership, would come into effect if the coalition is elected to Office post May 11.

Leader of the YDG, Christopher Jones told iNews on Wednesday, March 25 that the proposal is being seen a way to encourage the return of morals and values to young people.

“Instead of young people going and get a child mother…they can get married and we would give them a plot of land as an incentive for getting married. It’s all about bringing back family,” Jones told iNews.

When asked about measures to safeguard against persons who might want to defraud the system, Jones assured iNews that systems will be put in place to safeguard against such unscrupulous acts.

“The penalties will be severe,” he warned.

He also indicated that persons who would have recently made their vows will be able to benefit from the scheme if it is implemented since adequate provisions will be made for such.

“If you would have already purchased a house lots or in the process of purchasing a house lot, we can write off the balance,” he explained.

The scheme, if implemented, would be the first of its kind in Guyana.

MY view is not a bad idea,Talbot seems to have a greater vision.

March 25 at 2:19pm · Edited

"Great idea. i was saying a free house lot for every interracial marriage and a mandatory house lot to every newlywed at a nominal costs"

I do not know what made the coolie woman the prize of all Guyanese women. This bullshit that you folks perpetuate of exclusivity and prized possession represents your own investment in the poor indian woman as the beast of burden for your cultural pride. If you set her up as the border of your culture that is your problem. When others jump the fence it is no great transgression but a trampling of an unnecessary boundary. Indian woman or any woman for that matter is not commodity. They can willingly chose. Quit this bullshit about who wants indian women or not. That is your own insecurity that you do not have the ability to keep them

Keep on wishing, guys and you know it may even happen if the coalition wins.

Mabe that's  what the indos supporting  the Alliance want.

some coolie men love to display one hell of an inferiority complex

Are you stupid or just dishonest?

The point is not that Indian women belong to anyone. They belong to themselves. Who they bed or marry is their individual concern.

Here we have PNCites advocating an official State policy of reducing the Indian population by offering incentives for mixed marriage. Apparently 40% is still too high for the PNC. We need to be be culturally exterminated at the State's hands.

There is no where on earth anyone thinks Government involvement in incentivising certain types of marriages based on race is a legitimate function of Government. Do you?

Moron,

This is about someone advocating a State policy of handing out incentives to mixed marriages. The obvious intent is to further diminish the Indian population.

Don't be so dishonest. If that's what you think should be done then say so. Don't hide behind some self-righteous crap about insecure Indian men having a problem with interracial marriages.

Is there a day that goes by on this BB without Indian men getting bashed for their supposed inferiority? That's a running theme of you lot. You have more in common with Caribj than you care to admit.

I believe I am the one defending the right of individual Indian woman to exercise their choice. You started the post with the salacious name and went on to identify names that would be needing an indian woman.

I am simply pointing the absurdity of the matter as with the supposed undercurrent of duglarization meme in the indian community that existed since the National Service era.

I do not see anyone advocating diminishing Indian numbers. I see a foolhardy statement about INTERRACIAL preferences and that covers all races not specifically indian so you jumped the gun with the idea of targeted discounting of Indians

I will add that the fellow suggesting some affirmative action for interracial couples is also not far off. They inevitably suffer more and while there are no studies detailing their the hardship cost of the union one can conclude there has to be some residual economic cost to them given the society is patently racist.

You are digging into that banked racist reservoir to cull the idea of targeting marginalizing of Indians by coveting their women and that is patently absurd. Those who enter these unions do so on their own free will despite heavy cultural sanctions

you are a degenerate and desperate liar, not to mention an evil, racist biatch

see my response(s) in "bold" to your lameass dissembling and sophomoric psychology 'mek attempts' above

Actually, PPP voting Indian men feel inferior in the bedroom department. Why else would they go and rape and murder women just for a bit of sex?

I very much doubt that the poster made that statement seriously, or if he did, should be viewed seriously.

People should marry who they chose.  If they feel most comfortable only within their own ethnicity that is their business.  Ditto for those who marry people from outside of their group.

Any one who thinks that there should be social engineering to encourage or discourage interracial marriage isnt a serious person.

What people in Guyana want is equal access to opportunity, without regard to race, religion, skin color, social class, gender, or geographic location.  At some point they will also learn that not excluding people based on their sexual orientation is also a good thing.

And Indians are the only people who rape?  That is an activity in which many African, mixed, and Amerindian Guyanese gladly engage in.  That and spousal abuse.

No need for affirmative action.  There is a need for CHANGING attitudes, and from what I can see as older people die those hostilities to interracial marriage will die with them.

The people who do need help will be those from the interior, with out regard to race, due to the paucity of social infra structure which diminishes their ability to compete against coastlanders.

Some PPP posters might claim that black people are uncivilized monkeys.  Should I then use that to determine the views of other PPP supporters, or of Indians in general?  

You will be the first to say "no", but here you do the same with ONE PNC poster, who is naive and insensitive to issues of ethno cultural identity among Indians.

If you were NOT so ethnocentric you would know that it is the AFRICAN, and not the Indian population which is most threatened by increased miscegenation.

1.  We engage in this practise more than do Indians, and maybe even more than do Amerindians.

2.  Due to our slave heritage we are already more "mixed" and have weak ethnic boundaries, so a man like Trotman, who to most is "black", can and does call himself "mixed".  So depending on the survey one can see Afro Guyanese listed as anything between 25% to 35% of the population.

Yet despite this black people are more likely to have a live and let live attitude to miscegenation.

Indians are no more threatened than are Africans by ethnic "extinction".  BOTh populations are declining, and indeed some of the decline in the African population is because some folks have decided that it is not fashionable to be "black" any more, and now call themselves "mixed". 

There may well come a day when all, except for the blackest Afro Guyanese, might want to claim to be mixed.  Akin to what happens in Brazil.

Unless there is a radical change in the ethnic identification of Indians I do not see that happening for the Indo population. 

Indeed, should conditions in Guyana improve, it may well be that many indians living in the Caribbean and South America will return, given that more than are few are part of the exploited labor force of those countries.  In addition to the many currently living in North America, who might want to retire in Guyanam should crime be controlled and health services improve.

Sheer bullshyte!

For various historical and social reasons, mixed Black populations tend to eventually blend into the dominant Black population or remain a separate group.

What we do know is that the overwhelming majority of mixed Indos do not identify with Indians either by choice or being shown the door.

I don't wish to get into the whys and the fairness of it all. That's another topic. Let us deal with facts as they stand in Guyana. A dougla is not generally considered Indian. They are either dougla or just Black.

Only if they marry over succeeding generations and get "Indianized" are they counted as "Indian" again.

In conclusion, mixed Afro-Indo people are not considered Indians nor have they ever been. So an interracial couple is a net loss to the numbers of Indians from a demographic perspective. The social construct that is "Black" encompasses almost anyone with a Black parent or grandparent. The social construct of "Indian" does not.

1.  In the colonial heirarchy mixed people with African ancestry looked DOWN on blacks, because they more closely represented the favored phenotype of lighter skin coloring, straighter ("good") hair, and finer facial features.  So the notion that there arent tensions between mixed blacks and those more fully black is a JOKE.  And those colonial attitudes havent completely disappeared.

2.  The reason why douglas might be more willing to identify with their African than their Indian side (and I do not know if this is still true) is because their African side was more likely to embrace them, or at worst at least tolerate them.  The Indian side was more likely to REJECT them, and even disown their only children for committing the sin of marrying a black person.

So why would the dougla not feel more comfortable among blacks?  As Indian attitudes towards miscegenation evolves so too does their attitude towards douglas.  I really do NOT think that there is an instance of a dougla rejecting their part Indian heritage when Indians desire to include them. Maybe in the 70s, but certainly NOT now!

You obviously read what I write only sometimes. My point is quite simple and extremely limited.

Douglas are not generally counted as "Indian." Period. They are either douglas or Black. The Guyana Census even uses this strict definition for Indians.

So since douglas are not counted as Indian then any social engineering which advances douglarization will if successful chip away at the Indian population's numbers.

That's all I'm saying. No lang belly story about the social and historical conditions which lead to douglarism.