Obama, Told the Republicans to Ker Dem Bumba Klath suh.

You do understand that the last two years of a president is sums up as dead beat president, right?  (in the United States that it).

Weh Kari mullah deh? the country reject Obama just like de Country of Guyana rejecting that solid waste operation at Freedom house.

Cobra, Obama run things. He gun use Executive Oeders to FRE the Immigrants.  In your face Republicans, you want mess wid the most Powerful man on the Planet???

Is it fair for legal immigrants to wait in line while illegals get fast tracked to residency?

Yes it is.................Legal immigrants at least have a path to legal status.

But that timeline will get longer because of the processing of illegals, some people might die before they get their legal visas, while the backtrackers who have broken the law get a free pass. How can that be fair? How can you reward law breakers?

This Country is big and strong enough to have both. In any case, this Country needs them all.

i am not denying that, just saying that legals awaiting visas will have to wait longer because of illegals.

Yes this country was built on immigrants and immigration. Many of the people who "broke the law" to come here came here for a better life running away from poverty, crime and persecution in their own countries.

 

The Majority of Americans support this move both Republicans and Dems they just are squabbling over who gets credit for the move.

 

Many presidents did this in the past, this is not new ground. It is just the same lame old excuses being regurgitated time and time again.

Seven Surprising Ways Immigration Helps Build a Stronger America

Well, the Hispanic vote is important, so this is a done deal one way or another

damn straight.

you don't have to be rude

the term legal immigrants is an ex post notion. You are legal only after you finished the process. There is no line so to speak for illegals to join.  What the notion of a line refers to is the processing in ones country. On the date of filing for modification of ones status one joins the queue the same as those in your home country who want to be legal immigrants. That is only possible in an intellectual discourse. The processing would demand two queues since people with differing skill sets would be at work here; the normal queue and those seeking adjustment to their status.

This election is no surprise, as always, there are radical changes to the structure of governments in the US_of_A. Of interest is the fact that in this mid-term election, the seats in contest were predominantly in the hands of the Republicans.

 

As Lindsey Graham stated on CNN, this election is by no means a major victory for the Republican Party.

 

The interest event is the elections for also the President in 2016.

I hear you Radha/Asha/???. Some of the illegals have committed identity theft by using other peoples' dob etc. Regular Americans would be prosecuted for this. Why should these illegals get a free pass? 

Clearly if any of these people have a criminal record they would be immediately disqualified and deported so, again you are in the propaganda business.

So now you are an immigration expert? How the hell you know they will catch all of them? Anil seh he don't blame you; he blame the inbreeding thing.

Do they?  There are fewer opportunities for people to be sponsored.  Green card holders can no longer sponsor adult kids, and that is how many of us came in.  In addition the cost has soared.

 

What people need to understand is that all of this only benefits Mexicans and Central Americans who can walk over the border.  The rest of us have to figure out how to get a visa and then how to stay.

 

I thoroughly support the Dream Act as kids brought in by their parents shouldn't be punished especially if the USA is all they know, and if they are college bound.

 

For the rest.  They needed to do what many Guyanese did and that was to get a fake marriage and lie low for years.  And then "divorce".

Its really interesting how Caribbean people fell for the Mexican scam.

 

Caribbean people enter with green cards or with visitor/business/student visas. All difficult to get. 

 

An immigrant is some one who applied to obtain legal residency and who was approved.  Every one else is an undocumented, or out of status migrant.

 

Immigrants have played a very important role in this country.  Why should the immigrants who play by the rules and enter legally get punished while those who walk over the border get rewarded?  These people are not immigrants.  They are MIGRANTS.

 

Being a green card holder has gotten more and more difficult.  Now they have to re apply to keep their status and can be deported at a whim.  In addition the cost of obtaining a green card has soared, and the ways that one can be sponsored have narrowed. Why?  Because our silly Caribbean politicians fell for the Mexican scam and now these scamsters who walked over the border will get preference over the millions who must wait decades and before they get the opportunity to migrate.

The private sector employment for October as released by ADP yesterday was over 230,000 (an annualized rate of 2.7 million jobs created - Clinton would have been proud). For over 30 months unemployment and GDP growth in America were doin g better than the rest of the OECD countries. Yet all the Democratic candidate in the Nov 4th elections ran away from that.

 

The cost curve for health care premiums is bending downward and medicare spending is finally getting under control. As flawed as it is there are millions more insured than would have been and preventative care is burgeoning that will result in later years in decreased spending. Yet, the Dems ran away from Obamacare.

 

Obama got a mandate from winning two elections on a campaign to bring the troops home and he has done so, yet the Dems could not counter the lead from behind charge and weak leadership of a man who hunted down bin Laden and squished Al Qaeda. Yes, Al Qaeda - ISIS is a sectarian creation of Saddam's former generals and foot soldiers - the same people that Maliki banished. Bush's stupid 2003 Iraq invasion unleashed this devil and Obama is right to leave American lives and treasure out of it. Yet, the Dems allowed the Repubs to smear them on this.

 

Obama got the Syrians to get rid of their gas weapons of mass destruction, yet the Repubs painted the stupid Dems with some red line shit. Obama did the right thing, even as he wants Assad out. Let the Syrians take care of business with help and only intervene to prevent genocide. Obama stated this clearly as a goal of his Administration when he received his Nobel prize. Yet Dems allowed the Repubs to make them out as weak vacillating horseshit.

 

The auto industry has been saved. Dodd-Frank is going to do some bit in reigning in the shadow banking sector that nearly collapsed the world economy. Yet Dems were ashamed of Obama. Like Al Gore running away from Clinton in 2000 - see where that hanging chads and all.

 

The US recently surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia as the world's leading producer of petroleum (including gas), and gasolene is now sub-$3 a gal. Yet the Keystone pipeline got he Dems running scared.

 

Mid-terms especially in a President's 6th year always result in the defeat of the Presidential party (except 2 cases in the last century). The Obama coalition did not come out to vote in numbers - Blacks, Latinos and women; only old white folks. Also this year saw Dems in Red States where Romney defeated Obama up against the Repubs. In 2016 the reverse will happen where Repubs in Blue States are up for re-election. See how the Dems regain the Senate.

 

If Obama were running for a 3rd term this past Tuesday you bet he would have won and carried on his coattails a lot of Dems. He has the bully pulpit and the veto pen. The Dems in the Senate can filibuster (now the shoes are on the other feet) the Repubs so they can get a taste  of their own medicine.. Obama rides in Air Force One and the Beast. Let's see what the Repub Senate leader does. He talked about gutting Obamacare in his campaign, and now he sings the tune of not dismantling it but working to make it better. He, Mitch McConnell sated that all he wants to do si to block, block and bloc; now he wants to find common ground. Anybody knows what the Repubs ran on?

 

So all you folks who want to judge Obama, wait for another 10 years and see how he will have been exhalted. The last two years of a lame-duck Presidency saw great things from Reagan and Clinton. Obama is not to be written off. Iran recently acceded to having the Russians convert weapons-grade uranium. Obama's sanctions are biting. Putin is hurting and the Rubble is tumbling. See how gas prices are falling. His sanctions against Russia are paying dividends. Obama did the smart thing by not getting in the middle of a conflict America has no business in - the Crimea takeover and not supporting the Nazi fascist West Ukrainians who went after the Russian-speaking East Ukraine.

 

Look how Hamas in Gaza is now embracing the moderate West Bank Palestinian Authority. Obama might yet seal a historic Palestinian/Israeli peace. Watch how the American economy is being transformed under Obama's watch - VCs and tech startups and innovation are driving changes and Obama's emphasis on tech sciences and maths will only help. See Obama make a historic Immigration change in his lame-duck last 2 years with a Repub House.

 

You ain't see nuthin yet!

Kari you can publish White House press releases but understand this.  the GOP was all but dead in 2008 thanks to the disaster that George Bush left this country in.

 

Yet the GOP now enjoy record levels of control at the local, state and federal level.  Even blue Massachussets now has a GOP governor!

 

The fact remains that the recovery has NOT benefitted the average US worker.  Many have seen their salaries crumble as they either endured pay cuts or found jobs which pay less than what they had before.  And even those who aren't in this position earn LESS in real terms than they did 7 years ago.

 

So the Obama coalition stayed home (blacks, Hispanics, young whites and single females).  The others came out to vote.  Indeed some GOP winners got over 40% of the Hispanic vote!

 

The Democrats are in as much trouble as are the GOP.  The GOP appeal mainly to ageing white men and their wives.  The Democrats to minorities, young whites and single women who aren't the most reliable voters.  Blacks are WORSE off than they were before Obama came out, and indeed a study came out yesterday claiming that the black upper middle class in NYC has SHRUNK, and this in a region which is probably friendlier to educated blacks than many other places.

 

The next candidate will be a traditional white male (I bet Hillary chickens out based on Tuesday).  That person will most likely not do any better than did Kerry or Gore.

 

If you think that your average US voter cares about most of what you wrote  you are mad.  This is why Udall lost. Rather then addressing issues which interested the voters who spoke on the women's uterus, as if all female voters care about is the right to have an abortion.  Well his opponent grabbed 40% of the Hispanic vote!

 

In most of the South blacks stayed home even more than they did in 2010.  Why the shock when most are even worse off than they were then?  Indeed the Democrats bombarding them with phone call promising the return of the KKK if they don't vote was probably met with a long "suck teeth".

why didn't they?  After ignoring blacks for the past 7 years the Democrats suddenly bombarded those living in VA, NC, GA and FL with ads promising the return of slavery and the KKK if they didn't vote.  Nothing about how they will help those blacks who are no longer in the middle class and who have lost their homes (at least 15-20% have).

 

Here is the problem.  Younger minority voters aren't owned by the Democrats and the little black old ladies who vote Democrat because of Kennedy and Johnson are dying off.  Hispanics aren't loyal to either party, and younger blacks are increasingly disinterested in voting.  Indeed some claim that 40% of the young black males voted for Christie last year!  He got about 25% of the black vote.

 

So yes the GOP can get their old white people out. When some regular white guy runs in 2016 (assuming Hillary doesn't which is quite likely, given that her white working class base are now very hostile) young whites, single women, Hispanics and blacks might well stay home.  If people are unemployed or stuck in low paid jobs Obamacare isn't a huge priority for them.

Pepole get tired of listening to promises and seeing the same crap happening over and over again. Why should they even go out and vote? I didn't. When Governments are FOR the people I will consider voting.

Caribny, the media was saying the same thing about the Republicans in 2012, so any talk of the demise of the Democrats is just media cycling.

 

The GOP never talked about issues they bandied abouit in 2012 - abortion, same-sex marriage and pot. The GOP not once put forward one thing that they ran on, other than we're not Obama. What's thier fix for ObamaCare?

 

One thing you cannot deny - no matter how much you may think of how little Obama has done for Blacks (and say that about the Republicans who blocked and blocked and blocked and filibustered and filibustered and stalled nominations, etc. over 6 years), Blacks will vote 98% for Obama and come out in the 90% range. Put Obama on the ballot today and he wins hands down. What does that say about your theory about Obama and Blacks?

 

America is going through a generational change on Obama's watch. Provide the same ratio of dependents to working age to Clinton and Bush and see what kind of economy they'll have. Obama recognizes this and that's why the attempts at structural change in infrastructure and education. That's wh he tackled health care that was more of a plymouth rock on him than on Clinton and Bush. No excuses for him he is rising to the challenge. The results will be seen after a lag.

I'm not a Hillary fan and if Elizabeth Warren runs she'll do an Obama on her.

What's the solution? How do you get the politicians to work for the people? State solutions, not problems.

The Republicans campaigned on one thing only - we are not Obama. When pressed they said the election is a repudiation of Obama's policies. When asked what policy, it's hamanamanamanamanamana......

 

Joni Ernst the new Michelle Bachman said one thing in her campaign that she castrated pigs on her farm in Iowa and she will make Washington squeal - squeal like a pig: Appalachia.

 

The Staten Island Repub who faces 21 Federal indictment and threatened on TV to throw a reporter off a balcony was elected.

 

The voters voted for ballot issues like legalize pot and same sex marriage yet voted candidates on the same ballots who are against those very things. Go figure.

 

Put a monkey in last week's elections with an "R" after his or her name and you bet he or she will be elected. Dems treated Obama and all his successes like strangers. Terrific news on health care costs and coverage, employment, gas prices, petroleum production, troops not engaging in other people's civil war, etc. Al Gore showed the way - run away from Clinton's successes and lose. The Dem this year followed.

 

The Repubs ran on nothing and now that they have to govern they want to work with Obama - not to make him a one-term President. They presented no campaign policies in tis election and kept quiet on immigration and all the social wedge issues they've lost the American public on.

I have to agree with what Carib J is saying on this issue.

Kari that job growth thingy ain't mean nothing, trust me.

Chief, it's a generational change and you would know it - educated workforce versus the unskilled service industries. Two things the US is faced with today - more dependents than producing class (the age demographic) and the shift of job skills and hence pay (globalization). Hand these two factors to Bill Clinton now  and see if you would all be heaping praise on him now. Obama has similar job growth numbers and we must find a fault. History is seen when we're removed from it. It's not to blame Obama for what is, but what he is doing about it for the next generation. It's like GMO foods that the current generation's DNA is unaccustomed to and hence cancer andf other diseases. The same genetically food modified today in two generations from now will be healthy. Ask if Obama is preparing the body for the new jobs "genetically modified" so to speak. You no loinger come out of high scholl and work in the plant down the road and put your kid through College. Did the Repubs work with Obama on the College debt situation? Did Obama cause that trillion dollar College loan situation like Bush created ISIL? Think about it, before you have to agree with short-sighted analysis by Caribny. Yuh mek me hand fall.

I am with Chief and Caribny on that specific issue. Obama failed to deliver relief to the masses. He helped the big banks by hiring them to come up with a bailout plan and then once they executed the bailout plan they all left his administration to go right back to the very banks they helped bail out.

 

This whole thing is a complete scam it is almost PPP esque.....

 

Obama failed and the people spoke clearly that is why none of those BS bullet points the Whitehouse is releasing resonates with the people. Areas where Obama cleaned up 2 years ago roundly voted against him.

 

I won't even get into the foreign policy failures. Now I see today 1500 troops are headed to Iraq to "train" iraqi troops. Bullshit. Everyone of those folks are special ops. Sooner rather than later there will inevitably be more than 5000 troops on the ground then 10k and we are right back where we begun.

Redux we on the same page on this one.

 

Kari what happen Bro, can't hear from you.

seriously?

 

i hope u understand that much of your foolish tirade is rubbished by results of the 2012 general election

 

it's a smart play to pelt and run on the foreign policy part though . . . taking the lazy route of proliferating nostradamus wannabees on GNI

 

discretion being the better part of valor and all

No one is addressing points so this is a conversation where we talk past each other.  People say failed without showing the failures. The credit and banking system was teetering and there would have been depression - Era soup kitchens, and then Obama came up with Dodd-Frank to curb the derivatives shadow banking that was the cause of the 2008 crash. I guess Chief and others are inadequately informed.

Thats right Obama helped the banks, there is a great article out in the press right now about Eric Holder and the Obama administration partnering with Jamie Dimon to bury all the illegalities that Chase was carrying on with.

 

Is that not a fact?

 

Read the rolling stone article. Not flattering of Holder and the Obama administration period.

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/po...ness-20141106?page=4

 

 

who's disagreeing with u about Obama helping the banks? . . . this was well known (and loomed LARGE) in 2012

 

your notion that he? was somehow being punished for this in the 2014 midterms is simply bizarre

Where did I say he is being punished for that in 2014?

 

Obama's failures in 2014 and democratic failures in 2014 are tied to the democrats inability to get persons to come out and vote for them and that is tied to the fact that Obama has failed overall to help the average american.

New republic has a great article on the midterms.

 

http://www.newrepublic.com/art...rats-lost-senate-gop