PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2
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quote:Originally posted by albert:
The masses will turn out in their thousands at the P.P.P/C rallies....and at the polls they will be endorsing the P.P.P/C
quote:Originally posted by Mitwah:
Good posts ASJ.
quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Mitwah:
Good posts ASJ.
Mits, more or less like a blog where all are expected to contribute and critique.
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quote:Originally posted by Mitwah:quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Mitwah:
Good posts ASJ.
Mits, more or less like a blog where all are expected to contribute and critique.
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I would like to see this project comes to fruition.
quote:Originally posted by albert:
Horse man..deep down in their heart you know you will be supporting the peoples party,the working class party,the Guyanese party...the peopls progressive party civic....on election day put your X by the cup...
quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:quote:Originally posted by albert:
Horse man..deep down in their heart you know you will be supporting the peoples party,the working class party,the Guyanese party...the peopls progressive party civic....on election day put your X by the cup...
Deep down? i am PPP all the way.
quote:Elections are around the corner and it is during this season that many seek to resurrect their political life. Of course, these periodic, arm chair experts and failed politicians will be making many critical evaluations of the past 5 years and will be promising to do so much should they themselves be given a â5 yearâ but in the end it is up to the Guyanese voting population to make a proper assessment of who or which political party is better equipped to take them forward and which party has a record of fulfilling promises. On this note I will outline a few ongoing efforts as well as promises fulfilled by the PPP/C since they came into office
1. It is under the PPP/C that Guyana attained the rank of one of the highest developing countries in the Education Index of the United Nations Human Development Report. Equitable access to free education from nursery through secondary is a major reason for Guyanaâs estimated literacy rate of 96%, one of the highest in the Western Hemisphere during this time. The education sector continues to receive the largest chunk of the National Budget, with allocation this year being $24.3B, an increase of $2.5B. A US$5.1M Guyana Improvement Teacher Education Project was initiated which further ensures that Guyanaâs children receive the best possible education. 70 secondary schools are to be equipped with modern IT labs by September of this year and this will complement Guyanaâs first learning channel which was launched in April of this year.
2. It is under the PPP/C that budgetary allocations to the security sector increased from $13M in 1992 to $1.9B IN 2011. It is also under the rule of the PPP/C that the Citizen Security Programme, the aim of which is to create safer neighbourhoods, came into being. One component of this initiative saw the successful completion of the Comprehensive Training Programme in 2009 by 308 police officers. This programme equipped them with the requisite skills to train new recruits and other ranks in modern policing techniques.An Integrated Crime Information System(ICIS) for the force is also being developed, the design of which is to enable policy makers and law enforcement agencies to identify crime trends, examine their causes and devise objective solutions to combat them.The construction of a state-of-the-art Forensic Laboratory has already begun and this will complement other measures such as the installation of Close Circuit Television Cameras (CCTV) in and around the capital city which is expected to enable prompt response by police patrol squads.
3. Ensuring that adequate healthcare is accessible to the entire population regardless of the location, though at times challenging, is yet another one of the fulfilled promises of the PPP/C. Residents in remote and outlying areas can now boast of having access to basic healthcare through the construction of health huts and health centers and the placement of trained medical personnel to man these centers. There have been major improvements to the Georgetown Public Hospital which now allows it to offer advanced services in many areas including surgeries. Apart from highly trained medical practitioners being at the facility, groups of specialist doctors now visit the institution from time to time carrying out surgeries including kidney transplants and heart surgeries in the process. Health facilities were also constructed in Linden, Mabaruma, Lethem, New Amsterdam, Diamond East Bank Demerara , Port Mourant, Mahaicony, Leonora and Suddie, just to name a few.
Space and time constraint only allows me to delve into the 3 areas above but thereâs more than enough out there for readers to get a view of the points being raised. While the ears and eyes of the Guyanese public is being bombarded with sensationalism and misrepresentation development is taking place everywhere. And this is evident when one visits any of the cityâs streets or any of the many new housing schemes. All is not perfect but there are those who for reasons of selfishness would want us to believe that nothing at all has been done. These bitter folks have their individual grouses and this is evident in their vitriolic and often outlandish pronouncements. While preaching âchangeâ etc they exhibit signs of the âthemâ v/s âusâ mentality.
Truly Yours
Louis Kilkenny
quote:....Elections are around the corner and it is during this season that many seek to resurrect their political life. Of course, these periodic, arm chair experts and failed politicians will be making many critical evaluations of the past 5 years and will be promising to do so much should they themselves be given a â5 yearâ but in the end it is up to the Guyanese voting population to make a proper assessment of who or which political party is better equipped to take them forward and which party has a record of fulfilling promises. On this note I will outline a few ongoing efforts as well as promises fulfilled by the PPP/C since they came into office
1. It is under the PPP/C that Guyana attained the rank of one of the highest developing countries in the Education Index of the United Nations Human Development Report. Equitable access to free education from nursery through secondary is a major reason for Guyanaâs estimated literacy rate of 96%, one of the highest in the Western Hemisphere during this time. The education sector continues to receive the largest chunk of the National Budget, with allocation this year being $24.3B, an increase of $2.5B. A US$5.1M Guyana Improvement Teacher Education Project was initiated which further ensures that Guyanaâs children receive the best possible education. 70 secondary schools are to be equipped with modern IT labs by September of this year and this will complement Guyanaâs first learning channel which was launched in April of this year.
2. It is under the PPP/C that budgetary allocations to the security sector increased from $13M in 1992 to $1.9B IN 2011. It is also under the rule of the PPP/C that the Citizen Security Programme, the aim of which is to create safer neighbourhoods, came into being. One component of this initiative saw the successful completion of the Comprehensive Training Programme in 2009 by 308 police officers. This programme equipped them with the requisite skills to train new recruits and other ranks in modern policing techniques.An Integrated Crime Information System(ICIS) for the force is also being developed, the design of which is to enable policy makers and law enforcement agencies to identify crime trends, examine their causes and devise objective solutions to combat them.The construction of a state-of-the-art Forensic Laboratory has already begun and this will complement other measures such as the installation of Close Circuit Television Cameras (CCTV) in and around the capital city which is expected to enable prompt response by police patrol squads.
3. Ensuring that adequate healthcare is accessible to the entire population regardless of the location, though at times challenging, is yet another one of the fulfilled promises of the PPP/C. Residents in remote and outlying areas can now boast of having access to basic healthcare through the construction of health huts and health centers and the placement of trained medical personnel to man these centers. There have been major improvements to the Georgetown Public Hospital which now allows it to offer advanced services in many areas including surgeries. Apart from highly trained medical practitioners being at the facility, groups of specialist doctors now visit the institution from time to time carrying out surgeries including kidney transplants and heart surgeries in the process. Health facilities were also constructed in Linden, Mabaruma, Lethem, New Amsterdam, Diamond East Bank Demerara , Port Mourant, Mahaicony, Leonora and Suddie, just to name a few.
Space and time constraint only allows me to delve into the 3 areas above but thereâs more than enough out there for readers to get a view of the points being raised. While the ears and eyes of the Guyanese public is being bombarded with sensationalism and misrepresentation development is taking place everywhere. And this is evident when one visits any of the cityâs streets or any of the many new housing schemes. All is not perfect but there are those who for reasons of selfishness would want us to believe that nothing at all has been done. These bitter folks have their individual grouses and this is evident in their vitriolic and often outlandish pronouncements. While preaching âchangeâ etc they exhibit signs of the âthemâ v/s âusâ mentality.
Truly Yours
Louis Kilkenny
quote:Yes, under the PPP there has been a lot of progress, some progress was made under the PNC too. But this progress under the PPP, asj, does not reach the working people sufficiently.
Please see:
School cleaners protest US$79 salary
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol Thursday, 01 September 2011 12:11
quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:
Deep down? i am PPP all the way.
Evening asjquote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Yes, under the PPP there has been a lot of progress, some progress was made under the PNC too. But this progress under the PPP, asj, does not reach the working people sufficiently.
School cleaners protest US$79 salary
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol Thursday, 01 September 2011 12:11
Hello Gerhard,
SCHOOL CLEANERS CONTRACT:
My understanding is that the Government contracts out school cleaning chores to contractors, and in turn contractors then employed their own workers to do the cleaning at an agreeable wage/salary before accepting the job. Sometimes I did understand that workers were paid for amount of square feet/and or rooms cleaned as per contract. Now if the Contractors is underpaying its employees and not providing them with benifits then my friend, it is a job for those concerned to change the system,
but I would not shared out blames towards the PPP/C.
I can understand that contracts are being given out on a bidding process......and the lowest bidder gets the contract.....and in order for him/her to accrue a profit for that contract then, he/she has to pay his/her workers accordingly.
Mind you, I am not saying or implying that paying wages below the minimum standard is right, but what I am saying is that an overall look into the system and see where we can improve for the betterment, is the correct way to go.
There are schools in different parts of the world where the same problem exits re: the following is one example: http://unitedvoice.org.au/file...report-FA-screen.pdf
I do hope that we can see a promise by the authorities to revise wages of school cleaners.
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quote:1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:quote:1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
ASJ this is total bullshit, the government should have clauses in its contracts or Master Services agreements that stipulate that its contractors must abide by the labor laws and laws of the country otherwise they would lose the contract.
This is silly and it is skirting around the issue it is also something that goes to the heart of what people complain about this government today in Guyana there is no accountability.
Where is the government's accountability? These contracts should be rescinded immediately. We in the PPP need to stop making poor excuses to defend the indefensible.
This is wrong, whether you like it or not it is wrong and we in the PPP should not defend or attempt to defend it or tolerate it. This is what is kicking our ass daily down here.
quote:Originally posted by albert:
Horsey aka Ossie R.
The following statement speaks for itself....the Janitors knew with was the contractual agreement and the payment package in advance...
quote....1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
2) Now this is important, whereas a Public Servant works 8 hours per day for a salary of $32,207 one cannot expect a janitor/sweeper who works 4 hours per day to be paid the same amount of that as a Public Servant. I do not know if janitor/sweeper stays 8 hours in school, as during my days going to school janitor/sweepers would come in after school hours an work for two to three hours and finished their chores, and this goes on for the entire week.
I guess that if you are a businessman and has a business, then I am sure that a worker that works 8 hours will certainly earns more than a worker that works 4 hours....unquote
quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:quote:1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
ASJ this is total bullshit, the government should have clauses in its contracts or Master Services agreements that stipulate that its contractors must abide by the labor laws and laws of the country otherwise they would lose the contract.
This is silly and it is skirting around the issue it is also something that goes to the heart of what people complain about this government today in Guyana there is no accountability.
Where is the government's accountability? These contracts should be rescinded immediately. We in the PPP need to stop making poor excuses to defend the indefensible.
This is wrong, whether you like it or not it is wrong and we in the PPP should not defend or attempt to defend it or tolerate it. This is what is kicking our ass daily down here.
Stop making yourself out to be an ah, and address the issue of Janitor/Sweeper, as it is foolish to go to other issues like accountability and the Government that is for another subject.
Read my reasoning carefully before you put forward a foolish response like you always do.
I take you for what you are....an AFC apologist disguising yourselt as a PPP diehard.
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quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:quote:1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
ASJ this is total bullshit, the government should have clauses in its contracts or Master Services agreements that stipulate that its contractors must abide by the labor laws and laws of the country otherwise they would lose the contract.
This is silly and it is skirting around the issue it is also something that goes to the heart of what people complain about this government today in Guyana there is no accountability.
Where is the government's accountability? These contracts should be rescinded immediately. We in the PPP need to stop making poor excuses to defend the indefensible.
This is wrong, whether you like it or not it is wrong and we in the PPP should not defend or attempt to defend it or tolerate it. This is what is kicking our ass daily down here.
Stop making yourself out to be an ah, and address the issue of Janitor/Sweeper, as it is foolish to go to other issues like accountability and the Government that is for another subject.
Read my reasoning carefully before you put forward a foolish response like you always do.
I take you for what you are....an AFC apologist disguising yourselt as a PPP diehard.
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Whatever I have been called worse than an AFC apologist before.
The bottom line is that the govt cannot be giving out contracts to people who are starving their employees and paying them minimum wage. We should have standards and stipulations in our contracts for contractors.
This is a huge problem and it is the reason that we end up with substandard work as well as we get a bad name when these people are out there picketing against us. People do not buy that it is the contractor not paying them they ultimately hold the govt accountable.
This is why in America and Canada and these countries contractors for the govt have strict guidelines they must adhere to else they lose their ability to supply the govt or be a vendor for the govt.
We need to implement the same standards rather than passing the buck which is what this is. Focus on the issue do not attack persons ASJ. You are getting to be no different than some of these AFC fools.
quote:Originally posted by asj:
Hi Gerhard
Looking at the articles that you have posted, the thoughts that comes to me is that there might be a reason or reasons why sweepers/cleaners are paid a contracted amount of $15,800 instead of the minimum wage of $32,207.
1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
2) Now this is important, whereas a Public Servant works 8 hours per day for a salary of $32,207 one cannot expect a janitor/sweeper who works 4 hours per day to be paid the same amount of that as a Public Servant. I do not know if janitor/sweeper stays 8 hours in school, as during my days going to school janitor/sweepers would come in after school hours an work for two to three hours and finished their chores, and this goes on for the entire week.
I guess that if you are a businessman and has a business, then I am sure that a worker that works 8 hours will certainly earns more than a worker that works 4 hours.
And in conclusions let me point out that during my days in school, janitor/sweepers never used to work 8 hours, I do not know what are their working hours now..........but if it is 8 hours, then I will certainly think that they deserve that public service minimum wage and all frills that goes with it. But if it is a four hours or less per day, then this will be a hard case to sell.
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quote:Export earnings expanded by 34.6 percent to US$533.1 million
Guyanaâs economy grew by 5.9 percent in the first half of the year, building on the achievement of five consecutive years of positive growth since 2006 and giving a positive prognosis for end of year results.
quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2quote:Export earnings expanded by 34.6 percent to US$533.1 million
Guyanaâs economy grew by 5.9 percent in the first half of the year, building on the achievement of five consecutive years of positive growth since 2006 and giving a positive prognosis for end of year results.
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quote:Originally posted by albert:
On election day..the masses will be endorsing the P.P.P/C
quote:Total gold production in the first half of 2011 was 163,413 ounces, an increase of 14.9 percent over 2010. âWith gold prices hovering firmly above US$1,500 per ounce and approaching US$1,800 per ounce in the post mid-year period, there is every incentive to invest and operate in the industryâĶgold production is now projected to reach 320,000 ounces resulting in an upward revision in the industryâs projection,â the report stated.
It said too, that the average export price of gold witnessed a 29.1 percent increase to US$1,370.3 per ounce, contributing to a 56.4 percent increase in export earnings to US$229.5 million.
quote:Originally posted by asj:
Hi Gerhard
Looking at the articles that you have posted, the thoughts that comes to me is that there might be a reason or reasons why sweepers/cleaners are paid a contracted amount of $15,800 instead of the minimum wage of $32,207.
1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
2) Now this is important, whereas a Public Servant works 8 hours per day for a salary of $32,207 one cannot expect a janitor/sweeper who works 4 hours per day to be paid the same amount of that as a Public Servant. I do not know if janitor/sweeper stays 8 hours in school, as during my days going to school janitor/sweepers would come in after school hours an work for two to three hours and finished their chores, and this goes on for the entire week.
I guess that if you are a businessman and has a business, then I am sure that a worker that works 8 hours will certainly earns more than a worker that works 4 hours.
And in conclusions let me point out that during my days in school, janitor/sweepers never used to work 8 hours, I do not know what are their working hours now..........but if it is 8 hours, then I will certainly think that they deserve that public service minimum wage and all frills that goes with it. But if it is a four hours or less per day, then this will be a hard case to sell.
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quote:âWe have always argued that a significant part of the progress that you see in the housing sector comes not only from bank loans, but also from equity that people are putting into these houses. If you listen to the opposition, you would think that every bit of progress that this country makes comes from narco-moneyâĶin fact they are saying it is a narco-economy. It is real people who are creating the wealthâĶthe bauxite workers, the gold miners, the rice farmers, the people who work in services. They create value added and they create wealth,â the president said.
quote:The Mid-Year Report said that in the first half of 2011, the sugar industry showed tentative signs that the path to recovery had commenced. The sector returned a 2011 first crop of 106,871 tonnes, reflecting a 30.5 percent increase over the first crop of 2010, and the best first crop performance since 2004.
quote:Rice continued its trend of successful first crops, with the 2011 first crop being 207,514 tonnes, 23 percent higher than at the corresponding period in 2010, and the highest first crop in the industryâs history.
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:quote:Originally posted by asj:
Hi Gerhard
Looking at the articles that you have posted, the thoughts that comes to me is that there might be a reason or reasons why sweepers/cleaners are paid a contracted amount of $15,800 instead of the minimum wage of $32,207.
1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
2) Now this is important, whereas a Public Servant works 8 hours per day for a salary of $32,207 one cannot expect a janitor/sweeper who works 4 hours per day to be paid the same amount of that as a Public Servant. I do not know if janitor/sweeper stays 8 hours in school, as during my days going to school janitor/sweepers would come in after school hours an work for two to three hours and finished their chores, and this goes on for the entire week.
I guess that if you are a businessman and has a business, then I am sure that a worker that works 8 hours will certainly earns more than a worker that works 4 hours.
And in conclusions let me point out that during my days in school, janitor/sweepers never used to work 8 hours, I do not know what are their working hours now..........but if it is 8 hours, then I will certainly think that they deserve that public service minimum wage and all frills that goes with it. But if it is a four hours or less per day, then this will be a hard case to sell.
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asj, there are no contractors involved. These people are paid by the Gov't. Indeed, some cleaners do not work all day, but that depends on how many there are per school. If there are a few, obviously the hours would be longer. asj, these people are required to come to work everyday, so regardless of how many hours they work, they must be given the minimum wage at least. Other Gov't employees who receive the minimum wage often don't work all day either. And what are the sums we are talking about? It is US$160 per month! Come on asj, be reasonable here.
Further, a caring Ministry of Education would have seen to it that the cleaner-sweepers get involved in other activities so as to boost their pay. Those with some amount of education could be given work in the school office, or they be offered the option to sell snacks in the school yard or run the school canteen. How can the Gov't be so uncaring and unconscionable? This is a needed service we are speaking about here, and it includes heavy work such as lifting and moving benches, tables and chairs. A private firm would cost so much more, asj.
Here is what Ramjattan said: "...such a directive effectively serves as the basis for paying sweeper-cleaners, despite their many years of service, half of the minimum wage, and denying them the benefits associated with the public service categorization. Ramjatan stated that, âThe AFC has also noted that the Ministry of Finance in executing such a directive would override the authority of the RDC by sending such instructions to the Regional Executive Officer (REO) who, in contravention of the stipulation of the constitution, functions also as the Chief Finance Officer. The REO (it should be underscored) is an officer within the authority of the Council.â âThis practice can certainly be deemed ultra vires the dictates of the Local Democratic Organs Act, which stipulates that the State may delegate any of its authority to a Local Democratic Organ and not to staff within that Organ,â he added. âAs a result of this dire situation, teachers have had to resort to soliciting monies from parents to pay sweeper-cleaners. A duty that rightfully belongs to the State,â Ramjatan asserted emphatically.
http://guyanafriends.com/eve/f...604972/m/84420015051
quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2quote:âWe have always argued that a significant part of the progress that you see in the housing sector comes not only from bank loans, but also from equity that people are putting into these houses. If you listen to the opposition, you would think that every bit of progress that this country makes comes from narco-moneyâĶin fact they are saying it is a narco-economy. It is real people who are creating the wealthâĶthe bauxite workers, the gold miners, the rice farmers, the people who work in services. They create value added and they create wealth,â the president said.
LET PROGRESS CONTINUES BY VOTING:
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quote:Originally posted by sachin_05:quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2quote:âWe have always argued that a significant part of the progress that you see in the housing sector comes not only from bank loans, but also from equity that people are putting into these houses. If you listen to the opposition, you would think that every bit of progress that this country makes comes from narco-moneyâĶin fact they are saying it is a narco-economy. It is real people who are creating the wealthâĶthe bauxite workers, the gold miners, the rice farmers, the people who work in services. They create value added and they create wealth,â the president said.
LET PROGRESS CONTINUES BY VOTING:
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asj, marnin . You haven't read through what I wrote at all. I did say that in most cases they would not be working 8 hours, depending on how many cleaners are employed. Your point about contractors is still moot. It is the Gov't that has contracted these people, therefore they ought to be given the minimum wage, which I emphasise again, is a mere US$161 per month. I went on to say that there were other things the Gov't could negotiate to ensure that 8 hours of work are available to these people. Jobs are scarce in Guyana, asj, and these are mostly mothers seeking work, often they are single parents too. How can you have Gail Texeira getting $880,000 (US$4,400) and Odinga Lumumba $660,000 (US$3,300) on the one hand, and workers in the education sector receiving $15,800 (US$79) on the other? Come on asj, I respect your right to support the PPP, but do you truly support what is happening in this specific situation?quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:quote:Originally posted by asj:
Hi Gerhard
Looking at the articles that you have posted, the thoughts that comes to me is that there might be a reason or reasons why sweepers/cleaners are paid a contracted amount of $15,800 instead of the minimum wage of $32,207.
1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
2) Now this is important, whereas a Public Servant works 8 hours per day for a salary of $32,207 one cannot expect a janitor/sweeper who works 4 hours per day to be paid the same amount of that as a Public Servant. I do not know if janitor/sweeper stays 8 hours in school, as during my days going to school janitor/sweepers would come in after school hours an work for two to three hours and finished their chores, and this goes on for the entire week.
I guess that if you are a businessman and has a business, then I am sure that a worker that works 8 hours will certainly earns more than a worker that works 4 hours.
And in conclusions let me point out that during my days in school, janitor/sweepers never used to work 8 hours, I do not know what are their working hours now..........but if it is 8 hours, then I will certainly think that they deserve that public service minimum wage and all frills that goes with it. But if it is a four hours or less per day, then this will be a hard case to sell.
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asj, there are no contractors involved. These people are paid by the Gov't. Indeed, some cleaners do not work all day, but that depends on how many there are per school. If there are a few, obviously the hours would be longer. asj, these people are required to come to work everyday, so regardless of how many hours they work, they must be given the minimum wage at least. Other Gov't employees who receive the minimum wage often don't work all day either. And what are the sums we are talking about? It is US$160 per month! Come on asj, be reasonable here.
Further, a caring Ministry of Education would have seen to it that the cleaner-sweepers get involved in other activities so as to boost their pay. Those with some amount of education could be given work in the school office, or they be offered the option to sell snacks in the school yard or run the school canteen. How can the Gov't be so uncaring and unconscionable? This is a needed service we are speaking about here, and it includes heavy work such as lifting and moving benches, tables and chairs. A private firm would cost so much more, asj.
Here is what Ramjattan said: "...such a directive effectively serves as the basis for paying sweeper-cleaners, despite their many years of service, half of the minimum wage, and denying them the benefits associated with the public service categorization. Ramjatan stated that, âThe AFC has also noted that the Ministry of Finance in executing such a directive would override the authority of the RDC by sending such instructions to the Regional Executive Officer (REO) who, in contravention of the stipulation of the constitution, functions also as the Chief Finance Officer. The REO (it should be underscored) is an officer within the authority of the Council.â âThis practice can certainly be deemed ultra vires the dictates of the Local Democratic Organs Act, which stipulates that the State may delegate any of its authority to a Local Democratic Organ and not to staff within that Organ,â he added. âAs a result of this dire situation, teachers have had to resort to soliciting monies from parents to pay sweeper-cleaners. A duty that rightfully belongs to the State,â Ramjatan asserted emphatically.
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Hi GR, your scanned second document points out that "Please be reminded that sweepers/cleaners for schools are contracted service providers and should be reflected under chart of accounts 6284"
Now if I were to follow this, I would get a different understanding from your point of "asj, there are no contractors involved." further this was a directive issued by Government that all janitors/sweepers would not be intitled to the minimun wages.
It is surprising that you say that most janitors/sweepers works eight hours or more per day, during my time in school it was customary for janitors/sweepers to come in to school after classes are finished for the day.......given that they comes in at 4.00 pm, I do not think that I can remember that they work longer than 7.00 pm......which makes it three hours per day.
It would be interesting to know what Janitors/Sweepers do within the eight hours that you say they worked. Also it would be interesting to know that workers who receives a minimum wage who does not work for eight hours?
If the Government were to give in to the AFC demands, (The AFC are in no position to demand) then it could have an effect with the other minimum wage earners.
I would love to see Janitors/Sweepers receives the minimum wages, but then as all wages increased goes.....it has to be negiotiated, if something is wrong with the system, then corrective measures would need to be the outcome.......it is not fair to blame the Government and then you have to go back to the Government and seek for increases........bai when your hands are in tiger's mouth, it is advisable to navigate with care.
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asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?quote:Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.
quote:Originally posted by cain:
asj, if you were to go back in various threads you'll see your one and only nincompoop Albert who started and is still doing exactly what you complain of.
He constantly spams the board and no one says boo to him.
As moderator I think that's your job, so let's be fair about this.
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?quote:Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.
quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?quote:Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.
GR
Do you think that your AFC supporter plastering my post with AFC Poster is warranted? The name calling is just describing their actions......As I said that I will not go to Admin and complain, but will fight my own battle. I am sure that you guys detest my plastering your post as well. But you started it.
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quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?quote:Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.
GR
Do you think that your AFC supporter plastering my post with AFC Poster is warranted? The name calling is just describing their actions......As I said that I will not go to Admin and complain, but will fight my own battle. I am sure that you guys detest my plastering your post as well. But you started it.
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quote:Originally posted by sachin_05:quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?quote:Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.
GR
Do you think that your AFC supporter plastering my post with AFC Poster is warranted? The name calling is just describing their actions......As I said that I will not go to Admin and complain, but will fight my own battle. I am sure that you guys detest my plastering your post as well. But you started it.
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What is wrong with responding with a poster supporting your candidate of choice?
quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by sachin_05:quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:asj, as a moderator, do you think that response is warranted? And what is with the name calling?quote:Originally posted by asj: Okay if you AFC Goons want to play dirty and plaster my post with your AFC poster then we can play the same game by me doing the same for every AFC Post. It is called retaliation in kind.
GR
Do you think that your AFC supporter plastering my post with AFC Poster is warranted? The name calling is just describing their actions......As I said that I will not go to Admin and complain, but will fight my own battle. I am sure that you guys detest my plastering your post as well. But you started it.
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What is wrong with responding with a poster supporting your candidate of choice?
I do not see anything wrong with that, but if I were to do the same with GR every post, he will detest same.......No? It cuts both ways the choice is yours either you stop or I retaliate in kind.
Better yet start your own post and showcase your candidate. The ball is in your court.
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quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2
THE HOUSING SECTOR: TRANSFORMATION THAT IS VISIBLE IN THE MANY HOUSING SCHEMES THAT IS SPRINGING ALL OVER GUYANA
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quote:ASJ,the profile of the owners of some the houses in region 6, could it be something like this.......
Husband: Cane cutter
Wife: sell veggys at the market
Four children going to school.
Transportation by old bicycle and taxi on the public road.
Wealth: Recently won the lottery.
Did I miss anything ?
asj, marnin . You haven't read through what I wrote at all. I did say that in most cases they would not be working 8 hours, depending on how many cleaners are employed. Your point about contractors is still moot. It is the Gov't that has contracted these people, therefore they ought to be given the minimum wage, which I emphasise again, is a mere US$161 per month. I went on to say that there were other things the Gov't could negotiate to ensure that 8 hours of work are available to these people. Jobs are scarce in Guyana, asj, and these are mostly mothers seeking work, often they are single parents too. How can you have Gail Texeira getting $880,000 (US$4,400) and Odinga Lumumba $660,000 (US$3,300) on the one hand, and workers in the education sector receiving $15,800 (US$79) on the other? Come on asj, I respect your right to support the PPP, but do you truly support what is happening in this specific situation?quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:quote:Originally posted by asj:
Hi Gerhard
Looking at the articles that you have posted, the thoughts that comes to me is that there might be a reason or reasons why sweepers/cleaners are paid a contracted amount of $15,800 instead of the minimum wage of $32,207.
1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
2) Now this is important, whereas a Public Servant works 8 hours per day for a salary of $32,207 one cannot expect a janitor/sweeper who works 4 hours per day to be paid the same amount of that as a Public Servant. I do not know if janitor/sweeper stays 8 hours in school, as during my days going to school janitor/sweepers would come in after school hours an work for two to three hours and finished their chores, and this goes on for the entire week.
I guess that if you are a businessman and has a business, then I am sure that a worker that works 8 hours will certainly earns more than a worker that works 4 hours.
And in conclusions let me point out that during my days in school, janitor/sweepers never used to work 8 hours, I do not know what are their working hours now..........but if it is 8 hours, then I will certainly think that they deserve that public service minimum wage and all frills that goes with it. But if it is a four hours or less per day, then this will be a hard case to sell.
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asj, there are no contractors involved. These people are paid by the Gov't. Indeed, some cleaners do not work all day, but that depends on how many there are per school. If there are a few, obviously the hours would be longer. asj, these people are required to come to work everyday, so regardless of how many hours they work, they must be given the minimum wage at least. Other Gov't employees who receive the minimum wage often don't work all day either. And what are the sums we are talking about? It is US$160 per month! Come on asj, be reasonable here.
Further, a caring Ministry of Education would have seen to it that the cleaner-sweepers get involved in other activities so as to boost their pay. Those with some amount of education could be given work in the school office, or they be offered the option to sell snacks in the school yard or run the school canteen. How can the Gov't be so uncaring and unconscionable? This is a needed service we are speaking about here, and it includes heavy work such as lifting and moving benches, tables and chairs. A private firm would cost so much more, asj.
Here is what Ramjattan said: "...such a directive effectively serves as the basis for paying sweeper-cleaners, despite their many years of service, half of the minimum wage, and denying them the benefits associated with the public service categorization. Ramjatan stated that, âThe AFC has also noted that the Ministry of Finance in executing such a directive would override the authority of the RDC by sending such instructions to the Regional Executive Officer (REO) who, in contravention of the stipulation of the constitution, functions also as the Chief Finance Officer. The REO (it should be underscored) is an officer within the authority of the Council.â âThis practice can certainly be deemed ultra vires the dictates of the Local Democratic Organs Act, which stipulates that the State may delegate any of its authority to a Local Democratic Organ and not to staff within that Organ,â he added. âAs a result of this dire situation, teachers have had to resort to soliciting monies from parents to pay sweeper-cleaners. A duty that rightfully belongs to the State,â Ramjatan asserted emphatically.
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Hi GR, your scanned second document points out that "Please be reminded that sweepers/cleaners for schools are contracted service providers and should be reflected under chart of accounts 6284"
Now if I were to follow this, I would get a different understanding from your point of "asj, there are no contractors involved." further this was a directive issued by Government that all janitors/sweepers would not be intitled to the minimun wages.
It is surprising that you say that most janitors/sweepers works eight hours or more per day, during my time in school it was customary for janitors/sweepers to come in to school after classes are finished for the day.......given that they comes in at 4.00 pm, I do not think that I can remember that they work longer than 7.00 pm......which makes it three hours per day.
It would be interesting to know what Janitors/Sweepers do within the eight hours that you say they worked. Also it would be interesting to know that workers who receives a minimum wage who does not work for eight hours?
If the Government were to give in to the AFC demands, (The AFC are in no position to demand) then it could have an effect with the other minimum wage earners.
I would love to see Janitors/Sweepers receives the minimum wages, but then as all wages increased goes.....it has to be negiotiated, if something is wrong with the system, then corrective measures would need to be the outcome.......it is not fair to blame the Government and then you have to go back to the Government and seek for increases........bai when your hands are in tiger's mouth, it is advisable to navigate with care.
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Do you understand what you have said here asj? Should poor people have to be fearful, hand in tiger mouth - your words asj, not mine - of a working class Gov't? The houses you so prominently display in this thread that you so obviously are proud of, do you know how much they cost?quote:it is not fair to blame the Government and then you have to go back to the Government and seek for increases........bai when your hands are in tiger's mouth, it is advisable to navigate with care.
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:asj, marnin . You haven't read through what I wrote at all. I did say that in most cases they would not be working 8 hours, depending on how many cleaners are employed. Your point about contractors is still moot. It is the Gov't that has contracted these people, therefore they ought to be given the minimum wage, which I emphasise again, is a mere US$161 per month. I went on to say that there were other things the Gov't could negotiate to ensure that 8 hours of work are available to these people. Jobs are scarce in Guyana, asj, and these are mostly mothers seeking work, often they are single parents too. How can you have Gail Texeira getting $880,000 (US$4,400) and Odinga Lumumba $660,000 (US$3,300) on the one hand, and workers in the education sector receiving $15,800 (US$79) on the other? Come on asj, I respect your right to support the PPP, but do you truly support what is happening in this specific situation?quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:quote:Originally posted by asj:
Hi Gerhard
Looking at the articles that you have posted, the thoughts that comes to me is that there might be a reason or reasons why sweepers/cleaners are paid a contracted amount of $15,800 instead of the minimum wage of $32,207.
1) These workers are not classified as public servants, but as contractural workers and as such it is left on the contractors to pay based on what he/she can afford. We cannnot expect that a contractor who has been receiving an amount of $15,800 to pay a janitor/sweeper would pay a higher amount.
2) Now this is important, whereas a Public Servant works 8 hours per day for a salary of $32,207 one cannot expect a janitor/sweeper who works 4 hours per day to be paid the same amount of that as a Public Servant. I do not know if janitor/sweeper stays 8 hours in school, as during my days going to school janitor/sweepers would come in after school hours an work for two to three hours and finished their chores, and this goes on for the entire week.
I guess that if you are a businessman and has a business, then I am sure that a worker that works 8 hours will certainly earns more than a worker that works 4 hours.
And in conclusions let me point out that during my days in school, janitor/sweepers never used to work 8 hours, I do not know what are their working hours now..........but if it is 8 hours, then I will certainly think that they deserve that public service minimum wage and all frills that goes with it. But if it is a four hours or less per day, then this will be a hard case to sell.
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asj, there are no contractors involved. These people are paid by the Gov't. Indeed, some cleaners do not work all day, but that depends on how many there are per school. If there are a few, obviously the hours would be longer. asj, these people are required to come to work everyday, so regardless of how many hours they work, they must be given the minimum wage at least. Other Gov't employees who receive the minimum wage often don't work all day either. And what are the sums we are talking about? It is US$160 per month! Come on asj, be reasonable here.
Further, a caring Ministry of Education would have seen to it that the cleaner-sweepers get involved in other activities so as to boost their pay. Those with some amount of education could be given work in the school office, or they be offered the option to sell snacks in the school yard or run the school canteen. How can the Gov't be so uncaring and unconscionable? This is a needed service we are speaking about here, and it includes heavy work such as lifting and moving benches, tables and chairs. A private firm would cost so much more, asj.
Here is what Ramjattan said: "...such a directive effectively serves as the basis for paying sweeper-cleaners, despite their many years of service, half of the minimum wage, and denying them the benefits associated with the public service categorization. Ramjatan stated that, âThe AFC has also noted that the Ministry of Finance in executing such a directive would override the authority of the RDC by sending such instructions to the Regional Executive Officer (REO) who, in contravention of the stipulation of the constitution, functions also as the Chief Finance Officer. The REO (it should be underscored) is an officer within the authority of the Council.â âThis practice can certainly be deemed ultra vires the dictates of the Local Democratic Organs Act, which stipulates that the State may delegate any of its authority to a Local Democratic Organ and not to staff within that Organ,â he added. âAs a result of this dire situation, teachers have had to resort to soliciting monies from parents to pay sweeper-cleaners. A duty that rightfully belongs to the State,â Ramjatan asserted emphatically.
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Hi GR, your scanned second document points out that "Please be reminded that sweepers/cleaners for schools are contracted service providers and should be reflected under chart of accounts 6284"
Now if I were to follow this, I would get a different understanding from your point of "asj, there are no contractors involved." further this was a directive issued by Government that all janitors/sweepers would not be intitled to the minimun wages.
It is surprising that you say that most janitors/sweepers works eight hours or more per day, during my time in school it was customary for janitors/sweepers to come in to school after classes are finished for the day.......given that they comes in at 4.00 pm, I do not think that I can remember that they work longer than 7.00 pm......which makes it three hours per day.
It would be interesting to know what Janitors/Sweepers do within the eight hours that you say they worked. Also it would be interesting to know that workers who receives a minimum wage who does not work for eight hours?
If the Government were to give in to the AFC demands, (The AFC are in no position to demand) then it could have an effect with the other minimum wage earners.
I would love to see Janitors/Sweepers receives the minimum wages, but then as all wages increased goes.....it has to be negiotiated, if something is wrong with the system, then corrective measures would need to be the outcome.......it is not fair to blame the Government and then you have to go back to the Government and seek for increases........bai when your hands are in tiger's mouth, it is advisable to navigate with care.
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quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2
THE HOUSING SECTOR: TRANSFORMATION THAT IS VISIBLE IN THE MANY HOUSING SCHEMES THAT IS SPRINGING ALL OVER GUYANA
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quote:Originally posted by cain:quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2
THE HOUSING SECTOR: TRANSFORMATION THAT IS VISIBLE IN THE MANY HOUSING SCHEMES THAT IS SPRINGING ALL OVER GUYANA
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Oi asj, I might be looking for one like dis after dem chaps win, how much so it gonna run me?
asj, this house will cost no less than US$50,000 to build - in fact I would safely put it at US$60,000. Please note that the yard has been raised as well - a necessary requirement given the poor or non-functioning NDCs, and the consequent poor or non-existent drainage.quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by cain:quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2
THE HOUSING SECTOR: TRANSFORMATION THAT IS VISIBLE IN THE MANY HOUSING SCHEMES THAT IS SPRINGING ALL OVER GUYANA
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Oi asj, I might be looking for one like dis after dem chaps win, how much so it gonna run me?
Cain if you have a plot of land and you want to build a house like this the one in this picture, an apporox cost might run you up to like about US$10,000 to 13,000.
But if you want A/C's, Furinishings, Appliances and other frills, then the NIS building in Berbice will give you an idea of what it can run up to.
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by cain:quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2
THE HOUSING SECTOR: TRANSFORMATION THAT IS VISIBLE IN THE MANY HOUSING SCHEMES THAT IS SPRINGING ALL OVER GUYANA
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Oi asj, I might be looking for one like dis after dem chaps win, how much so it gonna run me?
Cain if you have a plot of land and you want to build a house like this the one in this picture, an apporox cost might run you up to like about US$10,000 to 13,000.
But if you want A/C's, Furinishings, Appliances and other frills, then the NIS building in Berbice will give you an idea of what it can run up to.
asj, this house will cost no less than US$50,000 to build - in fact I would safely put it at US$60,000. Please note that the yard has been raised as well - a necessary requirement given the poor or non-functioning NDCs, and the consequent poor or non-existent drainage.
The house in question is two storey, with a structure in front and overhead trestle and two large black tanks - look at the quality of the gate and fence also. These things give you an idea of the internal costs too, meaning the doors and inner grill-work. It's elementary, Watsonquote:Originally posted by asj: GR, my estimates were based on some five years ago where someone came back to Guyana and complete a similar type house for US$12,000, and looking at those Kaietuer News houses for between 5 - 6 Million G$, I think that an extimate of my US$10,000 to 13,000 were reasonable, now taking your safely put extimate at US$60,000 then there is no doubt in my mind that the NIS Building where some says were an unreasonable cost........could very well be in that vicinity of G$69 Mil. taking into consideration that there were so much inputed frills like A/C and maybe furnishings. Last year I was offered a road side property on East Bank of Demerara for US$20,000 or G$40, Mil. I refused, because I know that because of my relatives in the constructions business, I can buy a plot and build at half the cost.
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:The house in question is two storey, with a structure in front and overhead trestle and two large black tanks - look at the quality of the gate and fence also. These things give you an idea of the internal costs too, meaning the doors and inner grill-work. It's elementary, Watsonquote:Originally posted by asj: GR, my estimates were based on some five years ago where someone came back to Guyana and complete a similar type house for US$12,000, and looking at those Kaietuer News houses for between 5 - 6 Million G$, I think that an extimate of my US$10,000 to 13,000 were reasonable, now taking your safely put extimate at US$60,000 then there is no doubt in my mind that the NIS Building where some says were an unreasonable cost........could very well be in that vicinity of G$69 Mil. taking into consideration that there were so much inputed frills like A/C and maybe furnishings. Last year I was offered a road side property on East Bank of Demerara for US$20,000 or G$40, Mil. I refused, because I know that because of my relatives in the constructions business, I can buy a plot and build at half the cost.
The NIS and the other buildings are bungalows. Apples and Oranges, asj.
Take it easy
And that gives US$65,000. So we are saying the same thingquote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:The house in question is two storey, with a structure in front and overhead trestle and two large black tanks - look at the quality of the gate and fence also. These things give you an idea of the internal costs too, meaning the doors and inner grill-work. It's elementary, Watsonquote:Originally posted by asj: GR, my estimates were based on some five years ago where someone came back to Guyana and complete a similar type house for US$12,000, and looking at those Kaietuer News houses for between 5 - 6 Million G$, I think that an extimate of my US$10,000 to 13,000 were reasonable, now taking your safely put extimate at US$60,000 then there is no doubt in my mind that the NIS Building where some says were an unreasonable cost........could very well be in that vicinity of G$69 Mil. taking into consideration that there were so much inputed frills like A/C and maybe furnishings. Last year I was offered a road side property on East Bank of Demerara for US$20,000 or G$40, Mil. I refused, because I know that because of my relatives in the constructions business, I can buy a plot and build at half the cost.
The NIS and the other buildings are bungalows. Apples and Oranges, asj.
Take it easy
The reason why my estimates were doubled from G$ 6 Mil to 13 Mil. What I am saying is that if I were to build a house like that, then I think that 13 Mil would be sufficient.
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quote:Originally posted by SuperMike:
quote:Originally posted by Tola:quote:Originally posted by SuperMike:
SM like you vocab is below nursery level...
quote:Originally posted by albert:
MITWAH... don't try to assassinate Donald Romotar's character...he has a clean slate, a good son of the soil and is quite capably of carrying the mantle of governance....the electorate will endorse him and by extension the P.P.P/C with the mantle of governance......a victory for the P.P.P/C is a victory for all Guyanese...they will vote P.P.P/C and let progress continue
quote:Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Now that is progress..
quote:Today if we were to look at the Education Sector we would have seen unprecedented progress.
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Wonderful pictures, asj. Now please be so kind to tell us about the teachers and nurses; about their salaries over the past 19 years, and why they are leaving Guyana in their droves.
Oh no, asj, this has nothing to do with who took the pictures. I am most proud of my country. However, the full story must be told. Remember, asj, I try give credit where it is due. I am on record as saying the Gov't school at 3 Mile, Bartica, is the best I have seen in the country.quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Wonderful pictures, asj. Now please be so kind to tell us about the teachers and nurses; about their salaries over the past 19 years, and why they are leaving Guyana in their droves.
Thanks GR, but I do not take credit for the pictures, someone else's hard work.
Bai Guyana is a poor country, the government, cannot solve all its ills at the same time. Sometime in the future we will not have our professional leaving the shores of Guyana..
quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Wonderful pictures, asj. Now please be so kind to tell us about the teachers and nurses; about their salaries over the past 19 years, and why they are leaving Guyana in their droves.
Thanks GR, but I do not take credit for the pictures, someone else's hard work.
Bai Guyana is a poor country, the government, cannot solve all its ills at the same time. Sometime in the future we will not have our professional leaving the shores of Guyana.
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quote:SINCE WHEN BRIGHT SHINY BUILDINGS PROVIDE LIFE SAVING MEDICAL SERVICE.
quote:Originally posted by Tola:quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Wonderful pictures, asj. Now please be so kind to tell us about the teachers and nurses; about their salaries over the past 19 years, and why they are leaving Guyana in their droves.
Thanks GR, but I do not take credit for the pictures, someone else's hard work.
Bai Guyana is a poor country, the government, cannot solve all its ills at the same time. Sometime in the future we will not have our professional leaving the shores of Guyana.
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Would it not be better to build modest buildings and have medical services that work for the ordinary patient.
Dwell on the quality/salary of the medical staff, instead of lavish buildings.
quote:Originally posted by asj: With references to wages and salary.......the PPP/C government never turns it back on the working class and say "not a cent more" no matter how little, the were able to give all categories small increases every year.......there will be a time when Guyana and the Guyanese Government will be able to give more.....but until then we have to make do.
quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:SINCE WHEN BRIGHT SHINY BUILDINGS PROVIDE LIFE SAVING MEDICAL SERVICE.
Tolabai, people will die in hospital, despite of efforts to save their lives, doctors are not god or magicians, they can only do so much.
Even in the Great USA people dies in hospital after going in for something minor.....I can understand the family fraustrations and their loss..(I have similar experience in the USA) and I felt the same way.
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quote:Originally posted by albert:
quote:In April, Prime Energy LLC- Caribbean, a United States (US) based petroleum company proposed to construct the first ever Oil Refinery in Guyana which officials say will create employment opportunities for approximately 100 persons.
President of the company Jerry Brooks had explained that the interest to establish a refinery in Guyana was stimulated by the fact that several countries around the world are looking to 20,000 barrels a day refineries for their countries given the high cost incurred to transport crude oil to the US for refining.
quote:A brighter future for all
quote:Originally posted by albert:
Cain feel free to re-migrate and contribute to Guyana nation building....be a patriotic Guyanese and put your shoulder to the wheel...
quote:Originally posted by albert:
quote:Originally posted by albert:
Progress for you and the ruling elites, albert. Certainly not the working class:quote:Originally posted by albert: Progress will continue under the P.P.P/C administration
quote:WHEN President Bharrat Jagdeo pointed to the positive fiscal results of the local economy, during the first half of 2011, it revealed that what those who oppose and the negative critics were and are still saying are mere far-fetched figments of their imagination. So instantly, one can deduce that Guyanaâs economy is being built by hard and astute work from the leaders. Also, the hope is that this kind of news will not be made light of. The populace must be informed. During the past six or seven years, Guyana has been on a significantly elevated growth curve, and this news is pleasant, but not surprising. But why this is so? This is so because over the last five years, the climb has been slow but sure and steady. So this 5.9 percent growth is symptomatic of faith in wise investments and long-term strategies. The local exports actually jumped by 30 percent. So this is something to really shout about. After all, in many parts of the world, economies are struggling, and inflation is difficult to combat. I do think some details are in order here:
The non-sugar sector is projected to grow at 3.4 percent, revised upward from the original projection of 4.6 percent and 2.8 percent at the time of the budget of 2011. Export earnings expanded by 34.6 percent to US$533.1 million. In fact, Export earnings from sugar increased by 32.4 percent to US$50.1 million, reflecting a 30.4 percent increase in quantity shipped to 99,738 tonnes.
Rice continued its trend of successful first crops, with the 2011 first crop being 207,514 tonnes, 23 percent higher than at the corresponding period in 2010, and the highest first crop in the industryâs history. So rice export earnings expanded by 35.1 percent to US$92.6 million, mainly attributed to a 26.4 percent increase in average export price to US$551.4 per tonne, coupled with a 6.8 percent increase in export volume to 167,945 tonnes. So the leap is most salutary and very welcomed. But a word of commendation must go to the âbehind the sceneâ people.
Guyanaâs improved performance is due mainly to investments and innovations in drainage and irrigation, the development of new and more tolerant rice strains, higher yields and higher acreage of paddy planted. These facts must not be taken for granted. To reach this far and reap these kinds of results, one must remember the hard work of the leaders. This is where people can now be hopeful that Guyanaâs future is beginning to look very secure. In other words, people do not have to panic and leave in droves. Right here in Guyana, a solid living can be made.
albert do you know what shame is? For all the money you are being paid, one day, albert, one day you will feel shame for what you have done to the people of Guyana. I believe this day will come sooner rather than later.quote:Originally posted by albert: Gerhard you would agree the P.P.P/C has Guyana on the of progress
quote:Originally posted by baseman:
AFC gatt dem running. PNC nevva mek the PPP act, now they scurry around like crazy now the AFC breathing down their neck.
quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:Originally posted by baseman:
AFC gatt dem running. PNC nevva mek the PPP act, now they scurry around like crazy now the AFC breathing down their neck.
No one knows who is AFC is Guyana, political has beens who will only probably get two seats.
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quote:Originally posted by asj:
I doubt wether a dunce like you knows what is jihad?
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quote:Originally posted by baseman:quote:Originally posted by asj:
I doubt wether a dunce like you knows what is jihad?
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YOU...warped jihad
quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2
LET THE PROGRESS CONTINUES.....
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quote:Originally posted by baseman:quote:Originally posted by asj:
PPP ALL THE WAY: LET PROGRESS CONTINUES PART 2
LET THE PROGRESS CONTINUES.....
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Oyye antiman, is datt di best ever happen in you life...an X on yuh basket?
quote:Originally posted by sachin_05:
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quote:Originally posted by albert:
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