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PPP: Calls for ‘unity talks’ must be contextualised

 

THE Opposition People’s Progressive Party made no bones about it yesterday that any call for ‘unity talks” must first be put into context. Speaking to members of the media yesterday at Freedom House on Robb Street, Georgetown, PPP General Secretary Clement Rohee drew reference to a statement by President Granger saying that his government “remains committed to inclusionary democracy, and is prepared to consider executive power- sharing with the opposition PPP.”

President David Granger

President David Granger

With reference to another from Minister of State Joseph Harmon saying that the PPP should submit a written response and not engage in a battle of words in the press, Rohee said Harmon spoke as though there is already an agreement between the two sides to engage formally, and that the process should begin with an exchange of correspondence on the modalities for talks when there is none. Noting that this was furthest from the truth, Rohee said the PPP is yet to receive any formal communication on the matter, and will not be requesting one either. Said he: “There is much confusion in the APNU+AFC camp on this matter, and it seems best that the alliance settle their internal differences, and put their house in order before any attempt is made to engage the PPP.” The PPP’s claims, in this respect, ought not to be undervalued or under-estimated, Rohee said as a “groundswell reflecting these concerns is building up slowly but surely, while the problem with the new Administration is that they have persistently sought to frame a political agenda for the PPP.” The claim by some that the party is “betraying what Jagan stood for,” he said, has absolutely no basis in fact. “A few examples will suffice to set the record straight. Further, the claim that the PPP is “intent on throwing obstacles in the path of National Unity in order to ensure its own ethno-political dominance is rejected,” Rohee said, adding: “We know full well that we cannot choose for the APNU+AFC Coalition, but at the same time, the APNU+AFC must be aware that the PPP is in no way desperate to engage both the APNU+AFC. This will be tantamount to a double kiss of death for the PPP; a reality it cannot ignore.”

DUE CARE AND ATTENTION Meanwhile, Rohee stressed that being the opposition party they have to exercise due care and attention in respect to any formal engagement with the government outside of Parliament. He contended that cooperation within the parliamentary structure and arrangements cannot be avoided but engagement with the A Partnership For National Unity/Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) outside of Parliament is clearly political and there is no guarantee that agreements reached will find their way in the appropriate body to make them legally binding. However, President David Granger has reiterated that the government remains committed to inclusionary democracy and is prepared to consider executive power sharing with the opposition PPP. At the last General and Regional Elections, the governing coalition of APNU+AFC secured some 51% of the votes cast, and Granger has since contended that it would not be prudent for the government to lock out the PPP. “We have at all times aimed at having inclusionary democracy and inclusionary government, so that the 49 per cent don’t feel locked out,” he had said, pointing out that Prime Minister Nagamootoo was on spot when he told Berbicians two Saturdays ago that the administration is open to a national unity government with the PPP. Granger said that national unity is part of the philosophy of the coalition, pointing out that there should be some form of sharing, some form of national unity and some form of inclusionary governance

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PPP General Secretary Clement Rohee drew reference to a statement by President Granger saying that his government “remains committed to inclusionary democracy, and is prepared to consider executive power- sharing with the opposition PPP.”

FM

The PPP are a bunch of ignorant fools. The only context necessary is that they sit down and then talk. In dialogue will emerge  resonance and the way of looking for what is the best way to organize ourselves and that is how context will emerge. What we have does not work. That is the context of our discontents. The PPP cannot ask Granger to decide the parameters of political expression. He is wise not to do so because it is not within his purview to act as sole visionary of that is to be. No one person can do that not even party elites. Only the people can but the leaders have to show that they can talk to each other rather than at each other.

FM
THE Opposition People’s Progressive Party made no bones about it yesterday that any call for ‘unity talks” must first be put into context.

 

Speaking to members of the media yesterday at Freedom House on Robb Street, Georgetown, PPP General Secretary Clement Rohee drew reference to a statement by President Granger saying that his government “remains committed to inclusionary democracy, and is prepared to consider executive power- sharing with the opposition PPP.”

 

Sporadic comments by David Granger are indeed separate and different issues to direct and concrete dialogues.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

PPP: Calls for ‘unity talks’ must be contextualised

 

THE Opposition People’s Progressive Party made no bones about it yesterday that any call for ‘unity talks” must first be put into context. Speaking to members of the media yesterday at Freedom House on Robb Street, Georgetown, PPP General Secretary Clement Rohee drew reference to a statement by President Granger saying that his government “remains committed to inclusionary democracy, and is prepared to consider executive power- sharing with the opposition PPP.”

President David Granger

President David Granger

With reference to another from Minister of State Joseph Harmon saying that the PPP should submit a written response and not engage in a battle of words in the press, Rohee said Harmon spoke as though there is already an agreement between the two sides to engage formally, and that the process should begin with an exchange of correspondence on the modalities for talks when there is none. Noting that this was furthest from the truth, Rohee said the PPP is yet to receive any formal communication on the matter, and will not be requesting one either. Said he: “There is much confusion in the APNU+AFC camp on this matter, and it seems best that the alliance settle their internal differences, and put their house in order before any attempt is made to engage the PPP.” The PPP’s claims, in this respect, ought not to be undervalued or under-estimated, Rohee said as a “groundswell reflecting these concerns is building up slowly but surely, while the problem with the new Administration is that they have persistently sought to frame a political agenda for the PPP.” The claim by some that the party is “betraying what Jagan stood for,” he said, has absolutely no basis in fact. “A few examples will suffice to set the record straight. Further, the claim that the PPP is “intent on throwing obstacles in the path of National Unity in order to ensure its own ethno-political dominance is rejected,” Rohee said, adding: “We know full well that we cannot choose for the APNU+AFC Coalition, but at the same time, the APNU+AFC must be aware that the PPP is in no way desperate to engage both the APNU+AFC. This will be tantamount to a double kiss of death for the PPP; a reality it cannot ignore.”

DUE CARE AND ATTENTION Meanwhile, Rohee stressed that being the opposition party they have to exercise due care and attention in respect to any formal engagement with the government outside of Parliament. He contended that cooperation within the parliamentary structure and arrangements cannot be avoided but engagement with the A Partnership For National Unity/Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) outside of Parliament is clearly political and there is no guarantee that agreements reached will find their way in the appropriate body to make them legally binding. However, President David Granger has reiterated that the government remains committed to inclusionary democracy and is prepared to consider executive power sharing with the opposition PPP. At the last General and Regional Elections, the governing coalition of APNU+AFC secured some 51% of the votes cast, and Granger has since contended that it would not be prudent for the government to lock out the PPP. “We have at all times aimed at having inclusionary democracy and inclusionary government, so that the 49 per cent don’t feel locked out,” he had said, pointing out that Prime Minister Nagamootoo was on spot when he told Berbicians two Saturdays ago that the administration is open to a national unity government with the PPP. Granger said that national unity is part of the philosophy of the coalition, pointing out that there should be some form of sharing, some form of national unity and some form of inclusionary governance

 There is much confusion in the APNU+AFC camp on this matter, and it seems best that the alliance settle their internal differences, and put their house in order before any attempt is made to engage the PPP.” The PPP’s claims, in this respect, ought not to be undervalued or under-                         The Alliance has too many CHIEFS each one over-riding the other authority, from my contact in Guyana, the PNC cabal is infighting for major control, where as WPA,AFC are hanging by threads. Moses went to Berbice and made promises, then Granger had a different version  and then Harmon swing a different story. If the coalition wants UNITY, well, the Alliance must unite FIRST, and speak one language. PPP is willing to work with the coalition, but bring a concrete plan and have a joint meeting of all parties. BUT on one hand you cannot threaten the opposition that you will jail them and calling them thief and then you want them to rub shoulders and cooperate

K

"BUT on one hand you cannot threaten the opposition that you will jail them and calling them thief and then you want them to rub shoulders and cooperate"

 

 

Agreed! They should just be jailed.

cain
Originally Posted by cain:

"BUT on one hand you cannot threaten the opposition that you will jail them and calling them thief and then you want them to rub shoulders and cooperate"

 

 

Agreed! They should just be jailed.

So, forget about UNITY, The only unity exist is Unity Village. If you want to jail criminals, then we have No government, because Granger and some of his Ministers have Blood on their hands, not to forget Hamilton Green the Mayor.

K

During PNC's reign, the country was in turmoil, there was crime, the PPP got in and at the time things seemed calmer. After Jagan died the worm slid into place but instead of doing better, she/he/it did worse, now not only the bad guys are acting out, it's any and everyone for themselves.

The PPP has destroyed any semblance of sanity.

 

I never knew a country can go lower than the cesspit but soon as the worm got in, it did.

 

If nothing comes to pass with this new Govt putting some of these creeps away, and recovering stolen funds, I'll say they are also a waste of a Government.

cain
Last edited by cain
Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by cain:

"BUT on one hand you cannot threaten the opposition that you will jail them and calling them thief and then you want them to rub shoulders and cooperate"

 

 

Agreed! They should just be jailed.

So, forget about UNITY, The only unity exist is Unity Village. If you want to jail criminals, then we have No government, because Granger and some of his Ministers have Blood on their hands, not to forget Hamilton Green the Mayor.

 

100 Percent accurate.

FM
Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by cain:

"BUT on one hand you cannot threaten the opposition that you will jail them and calling them thief and then you want them to rub shoulders and cooperate"

 

 

Agreed! They should just be jailed.

So, forget about UNITY, The only unity exist is Unity Village. If you want to jail criminals, then we have No government, because Granger and some of his Ministers have Blood on their hands, not to forget Hamilton Green the Mayor.

Why did your PPP not prosecute them during the 23 years they were in power?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by cain:

During PNC's reign, the country was in turmoil, there was crime, the PPP got in and at the time things seemed calmer. After Jagan died the worm slid into place but instead of doing better, she/he/it did worse, now not only the bad guys are acting out, it's any and everyone for themselves.

The PPP has destroyed any semblance of sanity.

 

I never knew a country can go lower than the cesspit but soon as the worm got in, it did.

 

If nothing comes to pass with this new Govt putting some of these creeps away, and recovering stolen funds, I'll say they are also a waste of a Government.

Well said!

Mitwah
Originally Posted by cain:

During PNC's reign, the country was in turmoil, there was crime, the PPP got in and at the time things seemed calmer. After Jagan died the worm slid into place but instead of doing better, she/he/it did worse, now not only the bad guys are acting out, it's any and everyone for themselves.

The PPP has destroyed any semblance of sanity.

 

I never knew a country can go lower than the cesspit but soon as the worm got in, it did.

 

If nothing comes to pass with this new Govt putting some of these creeps away, and recovering stolen funds, I'll say they are also a waste of a Government.

Totally agree.

Django
Originally Posted by Django:
Originally Posted by cain:

During PNC's reign, the country was in turmoil, there was crime, the PPP got in and at the time things seemed calmer. After Jagan died the worm slid into place but instead of doing better, she/he/it did worse, now not only the bad guys are acting out, it's any and everyone for themselves.

The PPP has destroyed any semblance of sanity.

 

I never knew a country can go lower than the cesspit but soon as the worm got in, it did.

 

If nothing comes to pass with this new Govt putting some of these creeps away, and recovering stolen funds, I'll say they are also a waste of a Government.

Totally agree.

The forensic audits are still in progress and there are no plans to abort. The Attorney General's office is currently drafting legislation that will give steel teeth and iron grip to Clive Thomas' Asset Recovery Unit. When the audit reports reach the Ministry of the Presidency, and when the National Assembly passes the asset recovery enforcement bill, Granger will assent and let the arrests and reclamation of state property begin. So far, despite his talk about national unity, Granger is not letting go of his election promise to hunt down the PPP crooks and bring them to justice.

In light of the bigger picture of Venezuela's antics, it makes political sense for Granger to talk about national unity, but he will not abort his drive to recover state assets as a condition for PPP support.

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by cain:

"BUT on one hand you cannot threaten the opposition that you will jail them and calling them thief and then you want them to rub shoulders and cooperate"

 

 

Agreed! They should just be jailed.

So, forget about UNITY, The only unity exist is Unity Village. If you want to jail criminals, then we have No government, because Granger and some of his Ministers have Blood on their hands, not to forget Hamilton Green the Mayor.

Why did your PPP not prosecute them during the 23 years they were in power?

They were too busy unshackling Guyana from the stifling debt burden left by the PNC.  But, they should have gone after some core PNC, not few PNC Indians.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Django:
Originally Posted by cain:

During PNC's reign, the country was in turmoil, there was crime, the PPP got in and at the time things seemed calmer. After Jagan died the worm slid into place but instead of doing better, she/he/it did worse, now not only the bad guys are acting out, it's any and everyone for themselves.

The PPP has destroyed any semblance of sanity.

 

I never knew a country can go lower than the cesspit but soon as the worm got in, it did.

 

If nothing comes to pass with this new Govt putting some of these creeps away, and recovering stolen funds, I'll say they are also a waste of a Government.

Totally agree.

The forensic audits are still in progress and there are no plans to abort. The Attorney General's office is currently drafting legislation that will give steel teeth and iron grip to Clive Thomas' Asset Recovery Unit. When the audit reports reach the Ministry of the Presidency, and when the National Assembly passes the asset recovery enforcement bill, Granger will assent and let the arrests and reclamation of state property begin. So far, despite his talk about national unity, Granger is not letting go of his election promise to hunt down the PPP crooks and bring them to justice.

In light of the bigger picture of Venezuela's antics, it makes political sense for Granger to talk about national unity, but he will not abort his drive to recover state assets as a condition for PPP support.

Blah ! Blah ! Blah !

 

Talk is cheap.

 

Guyana's economy is headed to the toilet and the PNC is clueless. The are looking down the toilet pit instead of putting a plan in place to save Guyana from economic destruction.

 

As they say in America, it's all about the economy, stupid.

 

 

FM

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