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Stormborn posted:

 

It is illegal to discriminate because there are rules. It is a benchmark for how we respond not as preventative. In time the rule produces the desired effect because that is what rules do. If residual racism remains it is inconsequential as long as it does not invade social and political decision .

Again, to be Guyanese is not to coform to some esoteric conception of some insipid homogeniety.

 

 

I wonder what world do you live in.  Even as there is much talk of how white mass murderers are treated in comparison with INNOCENT black men, you still think that there is only residual racism in the USA. 

Innocent black men are shot by the police, because they are black.  Innocent black teenage girls are smashed against walls by the cops, because they are black.

Mr.  Roof, who killed 9 black people, was fed at Burger King, because he said he was hungry.  Other mass murderers, we are told, were troubled.

Yet it has been against the law to discriminate againts blacks for 50 years, and longer in states like NY.

The USA is still to reach the pont where blacks, and non white immigrants, are treated as if they are entitled to the same humanity as are white men.  Until this society reaches this point, the law will provide scanty protection.

 

Every time I discuss Guyana I do NOT reduce it to homogeneity.  YOU do, because you see being Guyanese as a birth certificate.

 

Not only is Guyana a multi racial, multi religious, and a multicultural society, but it becomes even more diverse when we account for the fact that being multi cultural describes not only the variety of cultures which exist in Guyana.

 

It also describes the fact that there is NO Guyanese person who doesnt exist on a cultural continuum. 

 

1. There are Guyanese who can easily attend a mosque, a Hindu temple, and a church, and in fact actively participate in all three.  

2. A Guyanese can go to a soca party one night, and next day shave off their hair and observe Hindu rites when a family member dies. 

3. Another can engage in a vibrant KweKwe event one night, and get married in a very staid Anglican ceremony the next.

4.  And at a Guyanese party there will be chow mein, cook up rice, roti and chicken curry, black pudding,  and pepper pot. As far as all are concerned, its just Guyanese food.

 

Those who pretend that they live in a tribally monolithic world, and who exclude those, because they arent of the tribe. Who harrass their kids if they fall in love with some one from a different race/religion (the reason behind more than a few of the suicides) are the ones who seek homogeneity. 

Those who embrace being Guyanese, therefore not only celebrating its diversity, but even existing in a cultural continuum are the ones who embrace what being Guyanese is about.  I can assure you, far from a representation of insipid homogeneity, these are the ones who can bond with other Guyanese, regardless of which ethnic group they may be from.

 

 

FM
Mitwah posted:
Drugb posted:

The fact is that the afc/apnu has been playing the race card by selling the PPP as an indian party to their supporters while they themselves are viewed as a Black party. 

General Secretary of the People’s Progressive Party (PPP), Clement Rohee, yesterday supported the statements made by his comrade, Bharrat Jagdeo, to the effect that the incumbent party is a “coolie people” party

When druggie was a little boy, he thought that school was open only for one month. August!  Forgive him.

FM

"Yesterday Rohee was questioned as to whether he supported the statements made by his comrade and he responded in the affirmative.
Rohee said that PPP is indeed a “coolie people” party as it is “overwhelmingly supported by Indians.”
Asked if he considered the impact such a statement can have on PPP supporters who are of another race, Rohee said that he doesn’t see that any harm can be caused."

 

This is one reason why THE PPP LOST.

cain
Drugb posted:

The collie people party was an insinuation made by the afc/apnu supporters, digging for controversy. I dare you to post Jagdeo's exact words to this effect. 

Rohee endorses Jagdeo statement that PPP is a ‘coolie people’ party

March 10, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

–    Says Afro Guyanese should welcome statement
General Secretary of the People’s Progressive Party (PPP), Clement Rohee, yesterday supported the statements made by his comrade, Bharrat Jagdeo, to the effect that the incumbent party is a “coolie people” party.

PPP General Secretary, Clement Rohee

As he hosted the PPP’s weekly press conference at Freedom House Robb Street, Georgetown, Rohee said that he saw nothing wrong with former President Jagdeo’s allusion to the PPP as a coolie people party.
Jagdeo made this statement on Sunday when he spoke at the memorial service held in honour of former President and founder member of the PPP, the late Dr. Cheddi Jagan at Babu Jaan, Corentyne, Berbice.
Jagdeo, who is known to speak rashly at this yearly forum, told thousands who gathered at the event that the “opposition” whispers to its supporters, “Let us throw out the coolie people.”
Jagdeo added that the opposition “consistently shouts about the racism of the PPP but they practice racism. They whisper campaigns. In the last elections they went to some of the Afro villages and beat some drums at six in the morning and say let us throw out these coolie people. Get up and go out and vote.”
Yesterday Rohee was questioned as to whether he supported the statements made by his comrade and he responded in the affirmative.
Rohee said that PPP is indeed a “coolie people” party as it is “overwhelmingly supported by Indians.”
Asked if he considered the impact such a statement can have on PPP supporters who are of another race, Rohee said that he doesn’t see that any harm can be caused.
He even told media operatives that PPP supporters who are Afro-Guyanese should welcome the statement as it is forthright.

Mitwah
caribny posted:
Stormborn posted:

 

It is illegal to discriminate because there are rules. It is a benchmark for how we respond not as preventative. In time the rule produces the desired effect because that is what rules do. If residual racism remains it is inconsequential as long as it does not invade social and political decision .

Again, to be Guyanese is not to coform to some esoteric conception of some insipid homogeniety.

 

 

I wonder what world do you live in.  Even as there is much talk of how white mass murderers are treated in comparison with INNOCENT black men, you still think that there is only residual racism in the USA. 

Innocent black men are shot by the police, because they are black.  Innocent black teenage girls are smashed against walls by the cops, because they are black.

Mr.  Roof, who killed 9 black people, was fed at Burger King, because he said he was hungry.  Other mass murderers, we are told, were troubled.

Yet it has been against the law to discriminate againts blacks for 50 years, and longer in states like NY.

The USA is still to reach the pont where blacks, and non white immigrants, are treated as if they are entitled to the same humanity as are white men.  Until this society reaches this point, the law will provide scanty protection.

 

Every time I discuss Guyana I do NOT reduce it to homogeneity.  YOU do, because you see being Guyanese as a birth certificate.

 

Not only is Guyana a multi racial, multi religious, and a multicultural society, but it becomes even more diverse when we account for the fact that being multi cultural describes not only the variety of cultures which exist in Guyana.

 

It also describes the fact that there is NO Guyanese person who doesnt exist on a cultural continuum. 

 

1. There are Guyanese who can easily attend a mosque, a Hindu temple, and a church, and in fact actively participate in all three.  

2. A Guyanese can go to a soca party one night, and next day shave off their hair and observe Hindu rites when a family member dies. 

3. Another can engage in a vibrant KweKwe event one night, and get married in a very staid Anglican ceremony the next.

4.  And at a Guyanese party there will be chow mein, cook up rice, roti and chicken curry, black pudding,  and pepper pot. As far as all are concerned, its just Guyanese food.

 

Those who pretend that they live in a tribally monolithic world, and who exclude those, because they arent of the tribe. Who harrass their kids if they fall in love with some one from a different race/religion (the reason behind more than a few of the suicides) are the ones who seek homogeneity. 

Those who embrace being Guyanese, therefore not only celebrating its diversity, but even existing in a cultural continuum are the ones who embrace what being Guyanese is about.  I can assure you, far from a representation of insipid homogeneity, these are the ones who can bond with other Guyanese, regardless of which ethnic group they may be from.

 

 

We are talking about nation, nationalism and ethnic identity. Stick to that and avoid the anecdotal bullcrap. Just pretend for once you are writing an academic paper and can the scatterbrained commentary that means nothing.

FM

Jagdeo said allegedly, 

“the afc/apnu are telling their people "Let us throw out the coolie people."”

How this translate to Jagdeo saying:

"ppp is a collie people party"

 

Clearly CaribJ, Cain, D2, Mitwah, T, Warrior and others were shouting the same when prior to the elections. It looks like you people are beginning to believe your own propaganda. 

FM
Drugb posted:

Jagdeo said allegedly, 

“the afc/apnu are telling their people "Let us throw out the coolie people."”

How this translate to Jagdeo saying:

"ppp is a collie people party"

 

druggy, you lack comprehension. Get your white Cougar to explain this to you.

Clement Rohee, yesterday supported the statements made by his comrade, Bharrat Jagdeo, to the effect that the incumbent party is a “coolie people” party.

 

Mitwah

Jagdeo never said that the PPP is a coolie party and Rohee never endorsed jagdeo's  statement, but what do you expect from Guyanese coolies? 

Jagdeo said that Grander went to the villages and told his supporters to get rid of the coolies. Granger was preaching racism.   You pricks can't even think for yourselves.   How the hell you all graduate from universities and colleges?

R
Ramakant-Pricks posted:

Jagdeo never said that the PPP is a coolie party and Rohee never endorsed jagdeo's  statement, but what do you expect from Guyanese coolies? 

Jagdeo said that Grander went to the villages and told his supporters to get rid of the coolies. Granger was preaching racism.   You pricks can't even think for yourselves.   How the hell you all graduate from universities and colleges?

Mouth open story jump out. Now we know why you did not graduate. Didyou ever get acceptance? With you, common sense is not so common.

Mitwah
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If you have nothing to say, then say nothing because you can't think.

The issue is with Jagdeo and his statement at Babu John.  All you can do is support the PNC and their criminal activities. 

R
Ramakant-P posted:

If you have nothing to say, then say nothing because you can't think.

The issue is with Jagdeo and his statement at Babu John.  All you can do is support the PNC and their criminal activities. 

I won't argue with your stupidity. You are drunk.

Mitwah
Drugb posted:

The collie people party was an insinuation made by the afc/apnu supporters, digging for controversy. I dare you to post Jagdeo's exact words to this effect. 

I have no need to go dig up any post when you see fully well that Rohee confirmed what Jagdeo said.  Did you hear Jagdeo telling Rohee that he was misquoting him?

 

Rohee confirmed that the PPP is a "Coolie party" and that black people shouldn't have a problem with it.  Actually we don't as we were fully aware that this is what the PPP has been for 60 years.  Nothing wrong with the PPP finally be honest about what they are.

FM
cain posted:

Druggy still want more,he doan believe true stuff.

Druggie cannot read.  Forgive him.  August was the only month that he went to school, and so he thinks that he is the only educated person in Guyana.

FM
Drugb posted:

Jagdeo said allegedly, 

“the afc/apnu are telling their people "Let us throw out the coolie people."”

How this translate to Jagdeo saying:

"ppp is a collie people party"

 

Clearly CaribJ, Cain, D2, Mitwah, T, Warrior and others were shouting the same when prior to the elections. It looks like you people are beginning to believe your own propaganda. 

Of course I said that you didn't go to school, except in August, so are unable to read and understand Rohee's comments.

 

When asked if the PPP was a "coolie party", he confirmed that it was, and didn't see why non Indians would object.

 

Now is Rohee an APNU official?

 

 

FM
Mitwah posted:
Drugb posted:

Jagdeo said allegedly, 

“the afc/apnu are telling their people "Let us throw out the coolie people."”

How this translate to Jagdeo saying:

"ppp is a collie people party"

 

druggy, you lack comprehension. Get your white Cougar to explain this to you.

Clement Rohee, yesterday supported the statements made by his comrade, Bharrat Jagdeo, to the effect that the incumbent party is a “coolie people” party.

 

The PPP told their supporters that school is open in August. So we need to understand why they are so stupid.  Its no surprise that so many of them also support Trump, even though he would consider them to be Muslims, and will ensure that their activities are closely monitored.

FM
Stormborn posted:
yuji22 posted:

Storm is shifting to the centre of Guyana's political landscape with a non-raicial, non ethnic political idea.

Where have I switched from where I was for eons now? You are too busy pedling your racial superiority crap to notice.

The longest sustained discussions about solutions to our political stasis from people who do not see race as seminal to their cognitive grasp of the world has been on constitutional reform.

It has been a topic here in some form or the other since the board existed and for the same reason...overcoming racism and ethnic capture of the state as a prize.

I am not on any side but the human side. That I comment on human foibles and misconceptions about politics and race does not mean I am arguing for any side but the right side; the one that does place any value on race.

 

You have not stwtched. You meandered into incoherent nonsense and disconnected anecdotes that misses the issues all together. The point being made is nationalism ( modern nationalism as opposed to primordial nationalism) does not supplant ethnicity and culture. Nations can contain many "Nations" ( in the older sense) and they all can be nationalistic.

That being the case one cannot be Guyanese first than being Indian or Amerindian. They are Guyanese because there is a state, politically and geographically circumscribed that allows them to be whatever they are. That broad secularism is what makes for  love of country modern nationalism and a peaceful nation

FM
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caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

The collie people party was an insinuation made by the afc/apnu supporters, digging for controversy. I dare you to post Jagdeo's exact words to this effect. 

I have no need to go dig up any post when you see fully well that Rohee confirmed what Jagdeo said.  Did you hear Jagdeo telling Rohee that he was misquoting him?

 

Rohee confirmed that the PPP is a "Coolie party" and that black people shouldn't have a problem with it.  Actually we don't as we were fully aware that this is what the PPP has been for 60 years.  Nothing wrong with the PPP finally be honest about what they are.

You and the rest of afc/apnu supporters are liars. Rhoee confirmed that the afc/apnu were telling their supporters to throw out the collies. This is no surprise. I an not sure why you post this as a revelation from the supernatural. Remember this video?

http://www.youtube.com/v/h9ph6ZFMzBc?

FM
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Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

The collie people party was an insinuation made by the afc/apnu supporters, digging for controversy. I dare you to post Jagdeo's exact words to this effect. 

I have no need to go dig up any post when you see fully well that Rohee confirmed what Jagdeo said.  Did you hear Jagdeo telling Rohee that he was misquoting him?

 

Rohee confirmed that the PPP is a "Coolie party" and that black people shouldn't have a problem with it.  Actually we don't as we were fully aware that this is what the PPP has been for 60 years.  Nothing wrong with the PPP finally be honest about what they are.

You and the rest of afc/apnu supporters are liars. Rhoee confirmed that the afc/apnu were telling their supporters to throw out the collies. This is no surprise. I an not sure why you post this as a revelation from the supernatural. Remember this video?

http://www.youtube.com/v/h9ph6ZFMzBc?

OK, druggie its confirmed that you are illiterate and cannot read.

 

FACT.  Rohee agreed with Jagdeo that the PPP is a coolie party.  If you cannot read, I can understand your inability to grasp these facts.

 

BTW the screams from the youtube stated that they are "fed up of...." What they were fed up was not clear. Even if they said that they were fed up of the "coolie party", well Rohee confirmed that is exactly what the PPP is, so why your screams.

FM
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Mitwah posted:

Rohee endorses Jagdeo statement that PPP is a ‘coolie people’ party

March 10, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

–    Says Afro Guyanese should welcome statement
General Secretary of the People’s Progressive Party (PPP), Clement Rohee, yesterday supported the statements made by his comrade, Bharrat Jagdeo, to the effect that the incumbent party is a “coolie people” party.

PPP General Secretary, Clement Rohee

As he hosted the PPP’s weekly press conference at Freedom House Robb Street, Georgetown, Rohee said that he saw nothing wrong with former President Jagdeo’s allusion to the PPP as a coolie people party.
Jagdeo made this statement on Sunday when he spoke at the memorial service held in honour of former President and founder member of the PPP, the late Dr. Cheddi Jagan at Babu Jaan, Corentyne, Berbice.
Jagdeo, who is known to speak rashly at this yearly forum, told thousands who gathered at the event that the “opposition” whispers to its supporters, “Let us throw out the coolie people.”
Jagdeo added that the opposition “consistently shouts about the racism of the PPP but they practice racism. They whisper campaigns. In the last elections they went to some of the Afro villages and beat some drums at six in the morning and say let us throw out these coolie people. Get up and go out and vote.”
Yesterday Rohee was questioned as to whether he supported the statements made by his comrade and he responded in the affirmative.
Rohee said that PPP is indeed a “coolie people” party as it is “overwhelmingly supported by Indians.”
Asked if he considered the impact such a statement can have on PPP supporters who are of another race, Rohee said that he doesn’t see that any harm can be caused.
He even told media operatives that PPP supporters who are Afro-Guyanese should welcome the statement as it is forthright.

Druggie get some one to read this to you, and then explain to you what it means.

 

Rohee even embellished the "coolie party" status of the PPP, admitting that it is overwhelmingly supported by Indians.

FM
caribny posted:
Mitwah posted:

Rohee endorses Jagdeo statement that PPP is a ‘coolie people’ party

March 10, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

–    Says Afro Guyanese should welcome statement
General Secretary of the People’s Progressive Party (PPP), Clement Rohee, yesterday supported the statements made by his comrade, Bharrat Jagdeo, to the effect that the incumbent party is a “coolie people” party.

PPP General Secretary, Clement Rohee

As he hosted the PPP’s weekly press conference at Freedom House Robb Street, Georgetown, Rohee said that he saw nothing wrong with former President Jagdeo’s allusion to the PPP as a coolie people party.
Jagdeo made this statement on Sunday when he spoke at the memorial service held in honour of former President and founder member of the PPP, the late Dr. Cheddi Jagan at Babu Jaan, Corentyne, Berbice.
Jagdeo, who is known to speak rashly at this yearly forum, told thousands who gathered at the event that the “opposition” whispers to its supporters, “Let us throw out the coolie people.”
Jagdeo added that the opposition “consistently shouts about the racism of the PPP but they practice racism. They whisper campaigns. In the last elections they went to some of the Afro villages and beat some drums at six in the morning and say let us throw out these coolie people. Get up and go out and vote.”
Yesterday Rohee was questioned as to whether he supported the statements made by his comrade and he responded in the affirmative.
Rohee said that PPP is indeed a “coolie people” party as it is “overwhelmingly supported by Indians.”
Asked if he considered the impact such a statement can have on PPP supporters who are of another race, Rohee said that he doesn’t see that any harm can be caused.
He even told media operatives that PPP supporters who are Afro-Guyanese should welcome the statement as it is forthright.

Druggie get some one to read this to you, and then explain to you what it means.

 

Rohee even embellished the "coolie party" status of the PPP, admitting that it is overwhelmingly supported by Indians.

Rohee agreed with Jagdeo that the afc/apnu were telling their supporters to "throw out the collie". The writer of the article misconscrewed his words. 

Please view the video below if you are still in denial of the racist afc/apnu supporters.

We fed up ah de collie, we fed up ad de coolie.

 

http://www.youtube.com/v/h9ph6ZFMzBc?

FM
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Mars posted:

"Misconscrewed", the new word for today. I can always count on GNI to help in expanding my vocabulary.

Well its druggie we are talking about. The boy played outside from Sept to July and only went to school in August.

Rohee confirmed that the PPP is a "coolie party", because most of its support comes from Indians. That is quite clear and so cannot be "misconscrewed."

 

Druggie also posts a video from 2006, which was of low quality, and then claims that the crowds screamed "we fed up of coolie rule". The last part isn't clear because this was a tape provided by the PPP, and they were too incompetent to distort the tape by CLEARLY inserting the word "coolie".

FM
Mitwah posted:

Drugb, you have to lay the cheap drugs.

Note only did he only go to school in August, but he proceeded to become an avid user of heroin, crack, and meth, when he arrived in the USA.

So he becomes "misconscrewed", when he peddles PPP propaganda, which no one else believes.

In fact even Roger Luncheon implied that Jagdeo was racist, when he said that the PPP was only defending Indian officials from Harmon.

 

But then why will the "coolie party" protect non Indian officials? 

FM

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