They will merely punish themselves when the vote for Jagdeo stooges who are loyal to him, and having no interest in the residents.

When the villagers complain about mosquitos Granger will tell them to complain to the local council. After all that is a LOCAL responsibility, NOT national.

These people are nuts. For two decades they suppressed local elections and now they want to claim it. Local governments are completely dependent on the central authority.

Stormborn posted:

These people are nuts. For two decades they suppressed local elections and now they want to claim it. Local governments are completely dependent on the central authority.

"What's your point". As you claim, local governments are completely dependent on the central authority. For two decades they suppressed local elections. Why you have a problem if PPP had suppress the local elections while they were in office.  

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

These people are nuts. For two decades they suppressed local elections and now they want to claim it. Local governments are completely dependent on the central authority.

"What's your point". As you claim, local governments are completely dependent on the central authority. For two decades they suppressed local elections. Why you have a problem if PPP had suppress the local elections while they were in office.  

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

These people are nuts. For two decades they suppressed local elections and now they want to claim it. Local governments are completely dependent on the central authority.

"What's your point". As you claim, local governments are completely dependent on the central authority. For two decades they suppressed local elections. Why you have a problem if PPP had suppress the local elections while they were in office.  

You are an ignoramus. A healthy democracy grows from the bottom up. Denying the people to directly participate in the democratic process of self government at the local levels was injurious to our society. It suffocated the incubation of leaders connected to the people and left that to party cabals selecting leaders from party hacks.

My point is these hypocrites still do not see local government as a means of bootstrapping local leaders who are independent thinkers. They are entrenched in the belief that leaders should be ideological slaves to party and their task in local government is not to see the best practices are met but as that quack suggests, "to hasten the change that will see the PPP/C back in government once again".

Those corrupt people should never see the inside of political power until their entire leadership structure has cycled through both its leaders and their ideas. They never speak of internal reforms only of grabbing power so they can leech off the state once more.

Damn! A couple of sentences have contributed to so much hogwash ocean pollution.

skeldon_man posted:

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

These people are nuts. For two decades they suppressed local elections and now they want to claim it. Local governments are completely dependent on the central authority.

"What's your point". As you claim, local governments are completely dependent on the central authority. For two decades they suppressed local elections. Why you have a problem if PPP had suppress the local elections while they were in office.  

You are an ignoramus. A healthy democracy grows from the bottom up. Denying the people to directly participate in the democratic process of self government at the local levels was injurious to our society. It suffocated the incubation of leaders connected to the people and left that to party cabals selecting leaders from party hacks.

My point is these hypocrites still do not see local government as a means of bootstrapping local leaders who are independent thinkers. They are entrenched in the belief that leaders should be ideological slaves to party and their task in local government is not to see the best practices are met but as that quack suggests, "to hasten the change that will see the PPP/C back in government once again".

Those corrupt people should never see the inside of political power until their entire leadership structure has cycled through both its leaders and their ideas. They never speak of internal reforms only of grabbing power so they can leech off the state once more.

Damn! A couple of sentences have contributed to so much hogwash ocean pollution.

Skeldon, as a PPP slave, your mind is so enslaved by your PPP leadership that you don't even begin to understand stormborn.

Get back to me when Hillary, as president, tells us who the mayoral candidate for NYC is and demand that we vote for them.  Why bother with a process where NYers decide who their mayor should be?

This is what the PPP is doing in Guyana!

baseman posted:

Stormborn posted:

.. A healthy democracy grows from the bottom up. Denying the people to directly participate in the democratic process of self government at the local levels was injurious to our society. It suffocated the incubation of leaders connected to the people and left that to party cabals selecting leaders from party hacks.

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That banna is a pent up emotional tsunami.  One lil "tremor" and all hell breaks loose, the flood gates to hell, sink or swim!!

Baseman, if you can (I know that excessive exposure to Trump has damaged your brain cells) tell me what is exactly wrong with what Stormborn said.

skeldon_man posted:

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

These people are nuts. For two decades they suppressed local elections and now they want to claim it. Local governments are completely dependent on the central authority.

"What's your point". As you claim, local governments are completely dependent on the central authority. For two decades they suppressed local elections. Why you have a problem if PPP had suppress the local elections while they were in office.  

You are an ignoramus. A healthy democracy grows from the bottom up. Denying the people to directly participate in the democratic process of self government at the local levels was injurious to our society. It suffocated the incubation of leaders connected to the people and left that to party cabals selecting leaders from party hacks.

My point is these hypocrites still do not see local government as a means of bootstrapping local leaders who are independent thinkers. They are entrenched in the belief that leaders should be ideological slaves to party and their task in local government is not to see the best practices are met but as that quack suggests, "to hasten the change that will see the PPP/C back in government once again".

Those corrupt people should never see the inside of political power until their entire leadership structure has cycled through both its leaders and their ideas. They never speak of internal reforms only of grabbing power so they can leech off the state once more.

Damn! A couple of sentences have contributed to so much hogwash ocean pollution.

for dense racist morons.

baseman posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

"What's your point". As you claim, local governments are completely dependent on the central authority. For two decades they suppressed local elections. Why you have a problem if PPP had suppress the local elections while they were in office.  

You are an ignoramus. A healthy democracy grows from the bottom up. Denying the people to directly participate in the democratic process of self government at the local levels was injurious to our society. It suffocated the incubation of leaders connected to the people and left that to party cabals selecting leaders from party hacks.

My point is these hypocrites still do not see local government as a means of bootstrapping local leaders who are independent thinkers. They are entrenched in the belief that leaders should be ideological slaves to party and their task in local government is not to see the best practices are met but as that quack suggests, "to hasten the change that will see the PPP/C back in government once again".

Those corrupt people should never see the inside of political power until their entire leadership structure has cycled through both its leaders and their ideas. They never speak of internal reforms only of grabbing power so they can leech off the state once more.

Damn! A couple of sentences have contributed to so much hogwash ocean pollution.

That banna is a pent up emotional tsunami.  One lil "tremor" and all hell breaks loose, the flood gates to hell, sink or swim!!

Emotional? It is reality and the reason they will lose. They see this local election not in terms of devolution and rebuilding local leadership capacity. They see it as a means to bootstrap themselves into office.

The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

Stormborn posted:

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for dense racist morons.

They cannot help themselves. Excessive exposure to Jagdeo/Trump has destroyed their brain cells. Its uncanny how much alike those two frauds are.

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The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

the brown bai KKK will scream that this is a racist statement and that you should be banned as a result.

caribny posted:

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The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

the brown bai KKK will scream that this is a racist statement and that you should be banned as a result.

What's up with these two stooges that keep Farthing their brains out. KUMBAYA. 

ian posted:

caribny posted:

Stormborn posted:

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The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

the brown bai KKK will scream that this is a racist statement and that you should be banned as a result.

What's up with these two stooges that keep Farthing their brains out. KUMBAYA. 

Hi.  Enjoying life in the brown bai KKK?

ian posted:

caribny posted:

Stormborn posted:

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The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

the brown bai KKK will scream that this is a racist statement and that you should be banned as a result.

What's up with these two stooges that keep Farthing their brains out. KUMBAYA. 

It is dumb assed statements like that with no sensible input for those you support that makes the PPP in the dog house for a long time inevitable. Only a year ago every Indo racist on this site were screaming "100 year more years". I guess they anticipated that much in the dog house given an inclination to prattle nonsense over using their minds.

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

caribny posted:

Stormborn posted:

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The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

the brown bai KKK will scream that this is a racist statement and that you should be banned as a result.

What's up with these two stooges that keep Farthing their brains out. KUMBAYA. 

It is dumb assed statements like that with no sensible input for those you support that makes the PPP in the dog house for a long time inevitable. Only a year ago every Indo racist on this site were screaming "100 year more years". I guess they anticipated that much in the dog house given an inclination to prattle nonsense over using their minds.

Lol!! KUMBAYA 

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

caribny posted:

Stormborn posted:

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The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

the brown bai KKK will scream that this is a racist statement and that you should be banned as a result.

What's up with these two stooges that keep Farthing their brains out. KUMBAYA. 

It is dumb assed statements like that with no sensible input for those you support that makes the PPP in the dog house for a long time inevitable. Only a year ago every Indo racist on this site were screaming "100 year more years". I guess they anticipated that much in the dog house given an inclination to prattle nonsense over using their minds.

Lol!! KUMBAYA 

Hope you laugh long and loud....your fellow hyenas need to hear.

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

caribny posted:

Stormborn posted:

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The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

the brown bai KKK will scream that this is a racist statement and that you should be banned as a result.

What's up with these two stooges that keep Farthing their brains out. KUMBAYA. 

It is dumb assed statements like that with no sensible input for those you support that makes the PPP in the dog house for a long time inevitable. Only a year ago every Indo racist on this site were screaming "100 year more years". I guess they anticipated that much in the dog house given an inclination to prattle nonsense over using their minds.

Lol!! KUMBAYA 

Hope you laugh long and loud....your fellow hyenas need to hear.

Yes my KUMBAYA HYENAS, I gon laugh loud, so you can hear.  

Hahaha 

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

caribny posted:

Stormborn posted:

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The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

the brown bai KKK will scream that this is a racist statement and that you should be banned as a result.

What's up with these two stooges that keep Farthing their brains out. KUMBAYA. 

It is dumb assed statements like that with no sensible input for those you support that makes the PPP in the dog house for a long time inevitable. Only a year ago every Indo racist on this site were screaming "100 year more years". I guess they anticipated that much in the dog house given an inclination to prattle nonsense over using their minds.

Lol!! KUMBAYA 

Hope you laugh long and loud....your fellow hyenas need to hear.

Yes my KUMBAYA HYENAS, I gon laugh loud, so you can hear.  

Hahaha 

Sorry, most of that would be above my frequency range. PPP squealing can get that high most of the time.

Oh! some of you speak as if the PPP was defeated by a wide margin.  The PPP is the single most powerful political force in Guyana and they can and will turn the tide once again. Don't get complacent. You will lose your shirt and pants before you know it.

baseman posted:

caribny posted:

baseman posted:

Stormborn posted:

.. A healthy democracy grows from the bottom up. Denying the people to directly participate in the democratic process of self government at the local levels was injurious to our society. It suffocated the incubation of leaders connected to the people and left that to party cabals selecting leaders from party hacks.

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That banna is a pent up emotional tsunami.  One lil "tremor" and all hell breaks loose, the flood gates to hell, sink or swim!!

Baseman, if you can (I know that excessive exposure to Trump has damaged your brain cells) tell me what is exactly wrong with what Stormborn said.

Nothing!!

So you agree that Jagdeo is misleading his supporters, as he uses LGE to vindicate his loss last year, instead of assisting them to select THEIR own leaders to help them resolve problems which are best handled locally.

Stormborn posted:

 Only a year ago every Indo racist on this site were screaming "100 year more years". I guess they anticipated that much in the dog house given an inclination to prattle nonsense over using their minds.

And this is the source of their current stress.

They always say treat folks well on your way up, as you might meet them on your way down. 

Their screams and boasts of Indo superiority, and Indo rule indefinitely have them in a state of terror, now that the shoe is on the other foot.

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Oh! some of you speak as if the PPP was defeated by a wide margin. 

That is a fiction of your imagination.  In Guyana politics is now 50:50.  No one says otherwise.

Pity the PPP doesn't understand this and sanction its brown bai KKK section, who have destroyed their ability to win sizeable black and mixed votes.  Because their 50% is shrinking, with every plane taking off for JFK and Toronto.

Division within the PPP resulted on thousands of their votes in regions 5 and 6 going to the AFC. An AFC vote is technically not a PNC vote. Watch those votes return in 2020.

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Division within the PPP resulted on thousands of their votes in regions 5 and 6 going to the AFC. An AFC vote is technically not a PNC vote. Watch those votes return in 2020.

You know you can prance as much as you wish, but the 2011 Nagamootoo votes went back to the PPP in 2015.  A look at the regions 5 and 6 results show that the PPP had major gains.

So where will you get your votes from? 

What has you all in shock was that you didn't know that the Indian vote was no longer the majority vote.  A strong black/mixed turn out, with a sliver of Indian votes, most from Region 4, was enough to overcome the PPP, despite your purchased votes in regions 1,8, and 9.  Those votes will be less saleable to the PPP by 2020, unless APNU/AFC is truly foolish.

95% of black and 80% of voters consider the PPP to be no better than the apartheid regime in its bigotry.

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Oh! some of you speak as if the PPP was defeated by a wide margin.  The PPP is the single most powerful political force in Guyana and they can and will turn the tide once again. Don't get complacent. You will lose your shirt and pants before you know it.

Billy,the PPP will certainly be back in government,firstly they have to restructure the party and get good presidential candidate,I don't know if their supporters thinks BJ will be back as President Guyana,if they do they are holding on to a rotten branch,he served his term already.

caribny posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Division within the PPP resulted on thousands of their votes in regions 5 and 6 going to the AFC. An AFC vote is technically not a PNC vote. Watch those votes return in 2020.

You know you can prance as much as you wish, but the 2011 Nagamootoo votes went back to the PPP in 2015.  A look at the regions 5 and 6 results show that the PPP had major gains.

So where will you get your votes from? 

What has you all in shock was that you didn't know that the Indian vote was no longer the majority vote.  A strong black/mixed turn out, with a sliver of Indian votes, most from Region 4, was enough to overcome the PPP, despite your purchased votes in regions 1,8, and 9.  Those votes will be less saleable to the PPP by 2020, unless APNU/AFC is truly foolish.

95% of black and 80% of voters consider the PPP to be no better than the apartheid regime in its bigotry.

Carib..you are on target,PPP regaining votes in region 6 and 5 [all will not return]will not cut the mustard,APNU/AFC will make in roads with the Amerindian votes,come 2020 PPP will be in opposition again.

Whenever the slothful Bureau of Statistics releases the Final Results of the 2012 Census we shall get a good picture of the rate of decline of the Indian segment of Guyana's population. The preliminary results did not include an ethnic breakdown but the regional breakdown indicated heavy decrease in Region 6. Based on that, I had said here that the PPP could not regain its pre-2011 majority government. So said, so happened. In 2020 the PPP margin of loss will be wider than 4,506 votes of 2015 election result. Having regard to the opinions expressed by PPP supporters in GNI Political Forum and other social media, one cannot reasonably expect blacks and douglas to vote PPP in 2020. 

Regarding Friday's LGE, I think the PPP will perform well in most of the rural areas.

Gilbakka posted:

 Having regard to the opinions expressed by PPP supporters in GNI Political Forum and other social media, one cannot reasonably expect blacks and douglas to vote PPP in 2020. 

Regarding Friday's LGE, I think the PPP will perform well in most of the rural areas.

The PPP will perform "well"  in Indian areas, whereas black areas are trying to develop local governance which is independent of the central government.

If the black areas end up with local leadership, which is more responsive to the local electorate, and therefore quite willing to confront APNU/AFC, when they see fit, while the Indian areas end up with Jagdeo stooges, I don't want to see any whining from the brown bai KKK crowd.

Apparently blacks understand what local governance is about, maybe the remnants of the old village council days, while Indians don't.

The PPP will win its traditional areas, meaning that they will control most of the municipalities and local councils.  They will then scream "victory", as Jagdeo still cannot believe that he isn't the president.

By 2020 there might actually emerge new and competent leadership in black areas, who might be able to provide national leadership. The PPP will remain enslaved by an increasingly discredited and dictatorial Jagdeo.

Gilbakka posted:

Whenever the slothful Bureau of Statistics releases the Final Results of the 2012 Census we shall get a good picture of the rate of decline of the Indian segment of Guyana's population. The preliminary results did not include an ethnic breakdown but the regional breakdown indicated heavy decrease in Region 6. Based on that, I had said here that the PPP could not regain its pre-2011 majority government. So said, so happened. In 2020 the PPP margin of loss will be wider than 4,506 votes of 2015 election result. Having regard to the opinions expressed by PPP supporters in GNI Political Forum and other social media, one cannot reasonably expect blacks and douglas to vote PPP in 2020. 

Regarding Friday's LGE, I think the PPP will perform well in most of the rural areas.

This is assuming that the percentage turnout remain the same in 2020. Voter turnout could change the equation.  If for example, the Indians feel alienated and run back to the PPP and the Africans feel betrayed an stay home it could spell the end of the Association in 2020.

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

Stormborn posted:

ian posted:

caribny posted:

Stormborn posted:

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The fact remains that this mode of campaigning will keep them in the doghouse. They will win most of the local areas of indian dominance and they will forge no connection to areas of mixed and black population where the need to make inroads to win. They alienate this segment of the population with every move they make. 

the brown bai KKK will scream that this is a racist statement and that you should be banned as a result.

What's up with these two stooges that keep Farthing their brains out. KUMBAYA. 

It is dumb assed statements like that with no sensible input for those you support that makes the PPP in the dog house for a long time inevitable. Only a year ago every Indo racist on this site were screaming "100 year more years". I guess they anticipated that much in the dog house given an inclination to prattle nonsense over using their minds.

Lol!! KUMBAYA 

Hope you laugh long and loud....your fellow hyenas need to hear.

Yes my KUMBAYA HYENAS, I gon laugh loud, so you can hear.  

Hahaha 

Sorry, most of that would be above my frequency range. PPP squealing can get that high most of the time.

Keep Dreaming Cuffy family.  

KUMBAYA.