enough with the multiple threads on Gecom

RiffRaff posted:

enough with the multiple threads on Gecom

arright bass,you have the power to hit the delete button.

that boy getting paid extra for starting threads, he needs to feed he pickney. 

Drugb posted:

that boy getting paid extra for starting threads, he needs to feed he pickney. 

Here you go again,nothing of substance.

This article is about what course of action the PPP will be taken,regarding the appointment of the GECOM chairman.

I said earlier i blog for fun and time pass,no pay,haad head people have difficulty to comprehend what is said.

Past experience is a good guide. Pre-1992 the PPP had lobbied internationally for free and fair elections. Those efforts paid handsome dividends. The Party has my solidarity in its present crusade.

Drugb posted:

that boy getting paid extra for starting threads, he needs to feed he pickney. 

Bai, yuh getting me vex again. Why yuh obsessed wid "that boy"? Leh de man post he stuff and yuh post yuh own stuff, nuh. Do you know that your constant refrain is devaluing important topics? 

PPP is on the ball early. This will make a huge difference in stopping Granger in his tracks with his plan to rig the elections in 2020.

ABC countries will make the final call on this matter.

Constant lobbying abroad is important. Sometimes the ambassadors have an axe to grind but they are accountable to their respective governments and it is important for Guyanese to keep up the pressure abroad.

Gilbakka posted:

Past experience is a good guide. Pre-1992 the PPP had lobbied internationally for free and fair elections. Those efforts paid handsome dividends. The Party has my solidarity in its present crusade.

Call up your MP and tell him that Granger selected an old man who was a pallbearer at his friend's funeral. 

yuji22 posted:

PPP is on the ball early. This will make a huge difference in stopping Granger in his tracks with his plan to rig the elections in 2020.

ABC countries will make the final call on this matter.

Constant lobbying abroad is important. Sometimes the ambassadors have an axe to grind but they are accountable to their respective governments and it is important for Guyanese to keep up the pressure abroad.

That's the problem with Guyanese Politicians they can't function with integrity and transparency,they always seek foreign intervention to resolve the political affairs of a Sovereign Nation,issues can be resolved,no, each leader are showing who have more power and their actions further divide the nation.

Guyana is a laughing stock in the Caribbean,shame on the political leaders,some are useless,a pack of waste.

How many Caribbean Countries seek International Intervention,anyone knows ??

Destructive politics has seeped into the matter of the GECOM Chairman.

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October 26,2017

Dear Editor,

This opportunity is taken to call on society to focus attention to Article 161 (2) of the Guyana Constitution that attends to the matter of the appointment of the GECOM chairman and the ruling handed down by acting Chief Justice Roxane George-Wiltshire on this matter.

Of particular concern is the statement of Anil Nandlall “that Mr. Justice Patterson cannot be independent or appear to be independent or impartial” given that among other things he was a pall bearer at Desmond Hoyte’s funeral, is a member of a PNC facebook group, worked with the David Granger/Moses Nagamootoo Government, etc.

Article 147 of the Guyana Constitution protects the right to freedom of association and the ridiculousness of Nandlall’s claim, when he should know better, is demonstrating that at this moment in our history while the handling of the issue may give raise to justifiable concern, the raw naked opportunistic and destructive politics seeping into the matter could be of disservice to the nation. Handling this issue from the latter approach has the potential of creating fear and whipping up unease in the society at a level where it is not so deserving.

On the lists that were submitted by the Leader of the Opposition are persons who served under the APNU+AFC, PPP/C and other administrations. In the area of allegiance names were also submitted where some loyalty, politics and racial divisiveness have been publicly demonstrated over the years and well known. Given Nandlall’s expressed concerns their names should have been exempted from the lists and they would not have met the criteria for selection. Their ineligibility would be much stronger than Patterson yet the Leader of the Opposition found them worthy to be placed on the lists for consideration and appointment.

This is a small society where persons are likely to interact at various levels and would likely have encountered each other in their life’s journey. At the rate the discussions and qualifying conditions for appointment as GECOM Chairman are going nobody would be able to serve their country. Both sides, opposition and government, risk eliminating qualified and competent people from serving, going down this path.

We are a nation of a small population and a smaller number of top professionals. Whereas Nandlall has taken the issue to the ridiculous President Granger needs to be reminded that in rejecting the eighteen (18) names of leaders, at various levels of society, submitted for his selection, all of whom were deemed not fit and proper, further serves to marginalise our limited human resources from public service, for among these persons could have been found one fitting to serve.

Exercising the option permitted in the Constitution to select without consensus that is so crucial at this point in our society, given the people’s mandate to the APNU+AFC to pursue such a path after the spiteful, destructive, exclusionary politics of Bharrat Jagdeo, the environment has been created for mistrust and opportunistic politics. This would take us further back into ethnic cleavages and political encampment and those who stand to suffer are the masses.

Yours faithfully,

Lincoln Lewis.

Django posted:

That's the problem with Guyanese Politicians they can't function with integrity and transparency,they always seek foreign intervention to resolve the political affairs of a Sovereign Nation,issues can be resolved,no, each leader are showing who have more power and their actions further divide the nation.

Guyana is a laughing stock in the Caribbean,shame on the political leaders,some are useless,a pack of waste.

How many Caribbean Countries seek International Intervention,anyone knows ??

Django, without international intervention from the Carter Centre particularly Guyana would not have had free and fair elections in 1992. The elections of 1968, 1973, 1980 and 1985 were rigged increasingly in favour of the PNC. This was confirmed by international observers and human rights groups. A British MP, Lord Avebury visited Guyana and observed the 1985 election unofficially. He reported that the results were crooked without doubt. Without pressure from international governments and NGOs the PNC would have been rigging elections indefinitely.

It has nothing to do about sovereignty. Right now in Myanmar/Burma there is ethnic cleansing of Rohingya muslims. People all over the world have condemned the Burmese government. Prime Minister Aung Sang Suu Kyi cannot claim "sovereignty" because she herself was a beneficiary of international intervention after spending donkey years under house arrest.

Gilbakka posted:

Past experience is a good guide. Pre-1992 the PPP had lobbied internationally for free and fair elections. Those efforts paid handsome dividends. The Party has my solidarity in its present crusade.

Yes I see you are now a Jagdeo disciple.

Rest assured that Jagdeo doesn't have the image that Cheddi Jagan had.  His contortions with Roger Khan are known to all.  

Like they say "tief from tief mek god laugh".  That Jagdeo had the same constitution slammed in his face that he praised when he was president is a laugh.

What Granger did is what he is allowed to do under the terms of the constitution.  So why is it illegal?  That he didn't follow the Carter protocol is irrelevant.  That is NOT the constitution.

Gilbakka posted:

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Django, without international intervention from the Carter Centre particularly Guyana would not have had free and fair elections in 1992. .

The Cold War is over. No one cares about the Caribbean or even the larger Latin American nations. 

Is there any intervention in Venezuela, a nation much more important to them than Guyana? Not enough to curb MadBURRO's instincts.

But continue to be Jagdeo's tools. His intent is to raise racial panic and as usual he has succeeded.  Its amazing how former PPP folks rush back as soon as the horn blows.  It just proves why many didn't trust Moses in the first place.

caribny posted:

Gilbakka posted:

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Django, without international intervention from the Carter Centre particularly Guyana would not have had free and fair elections in 1992. .

The Cold War is over. No one cares about the Caribbean or even the larger Latin American nations. 

Is there any intervention in Venezuela, a nation much more important to them than Guyana? Not enough to curb MadBURRO's instincts.

But continue to be Jagdeo's tools. His intent is to raise racial panic and as usual he has succeeded.  Its amazing how former PPP folks rush back as soon as the horn blows.  It just proves why many didn't trust Moses in the first place.

What currency are you being paid by the PNC, Guyana Dollars, US or the Pound. With the amount of writings you are posting in the evenings make one to believe you have to wait for instructions from G/T.

kp posted:

 

What currency are you being paid by the PNC, Guyana Dollars, US or the Pound. With the amount of writings you are posting in the evenings make one to believe you have to wait for instructions from G/T.

Unlike you I have things to do during the day.  But continue to bow down to Jagdeo and tough your toes with your back turned to him.

What I write is NOT what Granger wants to see. Do you think that he wants to be described as a passive aggressive simpleton being used by Jagdeo and too dumb to see the trap that Jagdeo set.

I think not!

What you write is what Jagdeo orders you to write.

caribny posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Past experience is a good guide. Pre-1992 the PPP had lobbied internationally for free and fair elections. Those efforts paid handsome dividends. The Party has my solidarity in its present crusade.

Yes I see you are now a Jagdeo disciple.

 

Carib, I appreciate your frank criticism of me. You have earned my respect as one of the fairest posters who lash left right and center without fear or favor.

Now, please bear with me while I attempt to explain my position. I supported APNU+AFC in good faith but they let me down one misdeed and act of deception after another. Granger's rejection of Jagdeo's 3 lists was the last straw ; from the 1st list Chris Ram was a suitable name and he would have become a no-nonsense GECOM Chairman. In the interest of honesty I declared that I've decided to move back to my original political home, the PPP. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT I AM NOW A JAGDEO DISCIPLE.

During my 20+ years' PPP activism in Guyana I was never a docile yesman. I openly criticised the party leadership even in the press. It was therefore no wonder that the highest position I ever reached was Group Secretary. A group of about 12 active members. Lesser committed and lesser intelligent comrades bypassed me and made it up to the Central Committee but I soldiered on according to my conscience. I intend to criticize the present PPP leadership openly for their own good.

All through the years, race never decided my actions. I have always had a socialist consciousness, even today, with class as my chief criterion. So, with only 2 choices---APNU+AFC & PPP---I have resumed my support of the PPP whose constitution still retains the affirmation that it is a Marxist-Leninist party.

For all his almighty power, despite his crony capitalist practices, Jagdeo FAILED to get the PPP membership to remove Marxism-Leninism from its constitution. That is a telling situation that shows Jagdeo's limitations. THAT is what gives me hope in the PPP, that one fine day the party will return to its working-class roots, policies and practices. I repeat: I am thinking long-term. Neither Jagdeo nor my ethnicity plays a part in my decisions. 

Carib, I endeavored to be honest and sincere with you herein. You may or may not agree with me. You still have my respect.

Gilbakka posted:

 

Carib, I endeavored to be honest and sincere with you herein. You may or may not agree with me. You still have my respect.

You are part of a Jagdeo plot that Granger foolishly fell into.

1. The constitution is illegal. It came out of the most nakedly imposed form of rigging. Burnham loudly boasted the results of the referendum before the votes were counted.

2. The constitution was designed to centralize all power around Burnham and to make him above the law.

3. In the 23 years in power the PPP did NOTHING to change this. They did NOT even TRY.

Granger is NOT in breach of the constitution. He did NOT act illegally.  He did what this constitution is designed to do which is to centralize all power around the president, put him above the law and to ensure that he is answerable to noone.

You see Guyanese are shameless. No other Caribbean people, even those which are still colonies, with the exception of those in the French Antilles, so shamelessly do nothing and hope that foreigners will fix the situation. Look at all the screams that ABC nations should "rescue" Guyana.

Guyanese ought to demand that the constitution be changed and that it should be done so within a 2 year time frame.

THAT should be the conversation.

But listen the PPP massa has cracked his whip and even those who escaped the plantation have this psychological need to obey. Critical thinking has NEVER been a trait of PPP supporters and apparently you aren't any exception.

Gilbakka posted:

. That is a telling situation that shows Jagdeo's limitations. 

It hasn't. In fact it has shown how shrewd he is that he can so easily manipulate people.

The man knows full well how the constitution works as he knows full well that when he was president he was NOT going to allow an independent thinking Afro Guyanese to be GECOM chair. Had that been offered he would demonized that person and acted unilaterally.

But feel free to think that Jagdeo really cares about the integrity of the electoral system.  The PPP had plans to rig the last election and these plans were exposed.  This why they still scream about it and wail that the US made them lose.

Gilly, in addition you are not a RACIST!!!!

caribny posted:

Gilbakka posted:

 

Carib, I endeavored to be honest and sincere with you herein. You may or may not agree with me. You still have my respect.

You are part of a Jagdeo plot that Granger foolishly fell into.

1. The constitution is illegal. It came out of the most nakedly imposed form of rigging. Burnham loudly boasted the results of the referendum before the votes were counted.

2. The constitution was designed to centralize all power around Burnham and to make him above the law.

3. In the 23 years in power the PPP did NOTHING to change this. They did NOT even TRY.

Granger is NOT in breach of the constitution. He did NOT act illegally.  He did what this constitution is designed to do which is to centralize all power around the president, put him above the law and to ensure that he is answerable to noone.

 

You see Guyanese are shameless. No other Caribbean people, even those which are still colonies, with the exception of those in the French Antilles, so shamelessly do nothing and hope that foreigners will fix the situation. Look at all the screams that ABC nations should "rescue" Guyana.

Guyanese ought to demand that the constitution be changed and that it should be done so within a 2 year time frame.

THAT should be the conversation.

But listen the PPP massa has cracked his whip and even those who escaped the plantation have this psychological need to obey. Critical thinking has NEVER been a trait of PPP supporters and apparently you aren't any exception.

Look at this fool.  The Burnham Constitution has nothing to do with GECOM.  Burnham was long dead and gone when Jimmy Carter came up with the GECOM idea.  People y'all don't believe this man.  He telling lies!!

Bibi, wait you think anyone listening to him. Oh I forgot Django, Mars and Cain. Shit I forgot the Banta

Nehru posted:

Carib, I endeavored to be honest and sincere with you herein. You may or may not agree with me. You still have my respect.

Gilly, in addition you are not a RACIST!!!!

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Thank you for recognizing it, young man. It puts my old mind at ease.

caribny posted:

Gilbakka posted:

. That is a telling situation that shows Jagdeo's limitations. 

It hasn't. In fact it has shown how shrewd he is that he can so easily manipulate people.

The man knows full well how the constitution works as he knows full well that when he was president he was NOT going to allow an independent thinking Afro Guyanese to be GECOM chair. Had that been offered he would demonized that person and acted unilaterally.

But feel free to think that Jagdeo really cares about the integrity of the electoral system.  The PPP had plans to rig the last election and these plans were exposed.  This why they still scream about it and wail that the US made them lose.

Please write a book about Jagdeo. You sure have some interesting THEORIES about him. I shall buy your book when it hits the market.

Gilbakka posted:

caribny posted:

Gilbakka posted:

. That is a telling situation that shows Jagdeo's limitations. 

It hasn't. In fact it has shown how shrewd he is that he can so easily manipulate people.

The man knows full well how the constitution works as he knows full well that when he was president he was NOT going to allow an independent thinking Afro Guyanese to be GECOM chair. Had that been offered he would demonized that person and acted unilaterally.

But feel free to think that Jagdeo really cares about the integrity of the electoral system.  The PPP had plans to rig the last election and these plans were exposed.  This why they still scream about it and wail that the US made them lose.

Please write a book about Jagdeo. You sure have some interesting THEORIES about him. I shall buy your book when it hits the market.

I will buy that book too. 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

caribny posted:

Gilbakka posted:

 

Carib, I endeavored to be honest and sincere with you herein. You may or may not agree with me. You still have my respect.

You are part of a Jagdeo plot that Granger foolishly fell into.

1. The constitution is illegal. It came out of the most nakedly imposed form of rigging. Burnham loudly boasted the results of the referendum before the votes were counted.

2. The constitution was designed to centralize all power around Burnham and to make him above the law.

3. In the 23 years in power the PPP did NOTHING to change this. They did NOT even TRY.

Granger is NOT in breach of the constitution. He did NOT act illegally.  He did what this constitution is designed to do which is to centralize all power around the president, put him above the law and to ensure that he is answerable to noone.

 

You see Guyanese are shameless. No other Caribbean people, even those which are still colonies, with the exception of those in the French Antilles, so shamelessly do nothing and hope that foreigners will fix the situation. Look at all the screams that ABC nations should "rescue" Guyana.

Guyanese ought to demand that the constitution be changed and that it should be done so within a 2 year time frame.

THAT should be the conversation.

But listen the PPP massa has cracked his whip and even those who escaped the plantation have this psychological need to obey. Critical thinking has NEVER been a trait of PPP supporters and apparently you aren't any exception.

Look at this fool.  The Burnham Constitution has nothing to do with GECOM.  Burnham was long dead and gone when Jimmy Carter came up with the GECOM idea.  People y'all don't believe this man.  He telling lies!!

The problem with Carib is that he is too anti Indo at times.

He makes excellent points and observations when he wants to be balanced and I enjoy reading those both then he goes off into this Brer Nancy stuff and then he looks so one sided.

If I were president, I would still hire him as one of my advisors to bring a different angle on issues, minus the Brer Nancy stuff.