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President Granger is being fooled about Amaila Falls Project – says Jagdeo

August 12, 2015 6:03 am Category: latest news A+ / A-

By Fareeza Haniff

Former President, Bharrat Jagdeo. [iNews' Photo]

Former President, Bharrat Jagdeo. [iNews’ Photo]

[www.inewsguyana.com] – Executive Member of the People’s Progressive Party and incoming Leader of the Opposition, Bharrat Jagdeo believes that President David Granger is being ill – advised about the Amaila Falls Hydropower Project.

 

Jagdeo told a news conference on Tuesday, August 12 that those examining the project are clueless.

“I believe that they are duping President Granger; I believe that they are duping him because you have a few people who have been examining the project economics that are clueless…you don’t have to be an economist to understand what this project means to Guyana and what we will lose if we don’t proceed with it,” Jagdeo said.

His comments follow the announcement by Minister of Finance, Winston Jordan that the APNU+AFC government will not proceed with the project since the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) advised that it is too risky to do so.

But Jagdeo said this new position by the IDB was never made known to the former PPP government.

“The last time I know… in June a mandate letter was signed between the IDB and the developer.”

Amaila Falls

Amaila Falls

The former President believes that the decision of the APNU+AFC government to disband the project is a political one, while at the same time disputing the US$130M figure provided by the Finance Minister, who claimed that is the amount GPL will have to pay per year.

According to Jagdeo, the Finance Minister is incompetent in his handling of the Amaila Falls Project, which he says disqualifies him from managing Guyana’s economy.

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His comments follow the announcement by Minister of Finance, Winston Jordan that the APNU+AFC government will not proceed with the project since the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) advised that it is too risky to do so.

But Jagdeo said this new position by the IDB was never made known to the former PPP government.

“The last time I know… in June a mandate letter was signed between the IDB and the developer.”

FM

Amaila hydro cost “a downright criminal act of deception”

AUGUST 11, 2015 | BY  | FILED UNDER NEWS 

– Finance Minister says final tab at US$2.6B

Guyana’s plan to build the 165-megawatts hydropower facility at the Amaila Falls in the manner that was pushed by the previous administration was not only irresponsible but would have been “a downright criminal act of deception”. Presenting his first National Budget yesterday in the National Assembly, Finance Minister Winston Jordan disclosed that currently configured, the project which has been suspended would have cost of almost US$1B, making it easily the most expensive project ever for the country. Based on figures, it was found that the Guyana Power and Light Inc (GPL) would have been required to make annual payments amounting to US$130M to the operators of the hydro facility, costing the country a whopping total of US$2.6B over the 20-year commitment period of the power purchase agreement. “Mr. Speaker, this does not include Guyana’s contribution of at least US$160M (US$45M for the road, US$80M equity through Norway, and US$35M loans from IDB (Inter-American Development Bank); and the garnishing of US$65M of our foreign reserves.” The project, the brainchild of the Bharrat Jagdeo administration, was shelved in the last Parliament after the Opposition which had the majority raised questions over the costs and other issues. They voted a key piece of environmental legislation that was required by IDB, one of the financiers, effectively stalling the project. According to the Finance Minister, even the IDB considered the project too foolhardy to proceed over the financial structure. “We know now, that as configured currently, the cost of financing is too high, and that unless the price tag can be substantially lowered, we cannot proceed.  In this opinion, we are strongly supported by the experts at the Inter-American Development Bank, who had considered the project to be too risky to attract the Bank’s financing.” The minister insisted that Government is well aware of the importance of clean, reliable and affordable energy for development and the improved welfare of the people. “As such, we are prepared to explore every avenue to reduce the cost of energy – including examining the Amaila Falls Hydroelectric Project.” With regards to the capacity of the state-owned Guyana Power and Light Inc (GPL) to manage the hydro project, the official was convinced that it was delusional to suggest that the company had the competence to handle such a financial burden. “The GPL is known to have a poor operational, financial and technical capability. The company suffers from high energy and technical losses and fuel price volatility. It would require not only massive tariff increases, but guarantees taxpayers, through the treasury, will provide transfers to meet this obligation. It also assumes that businesses would be willing to abandon their lower cost power generation and take the chance that GPL will be able to satisfy their energy demands.  Added to this, is the fact that Guyana would be left with all the contingent risks of the project,” he warned. Jordan said it is a fact that the identification of Amaila Falls, as a potential site for hydropower, dates back some 40 years, and that his Government would welcome the diversification of the country’s energy matrix to include clean, sustainable and affordable sources. “Over the next five years, we will adopt a more integrated approach to providing for our energy needs. We will examine all sources of energy – fossil fuels, wind, solar, bagasse and, of course, hydropower.” He said that the government will commence feasibility studies for a large hydropower development in the Mazaruni region. “This will be done in collaboration with Brazil. We will encourage independent power producers and suppliers to construct energy farms and sell energy to the national grid. We will construct and/or promote the construction of small hydro systems in areas such as Moco Moco, Kato and Tumatumari, and will power all of our new townships, starting with Bartica, using alternative energy sources.”

 

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....al-act-of-deception/

Mitwah

Amaila Falls Hydropower too expensive

Amaila Falls Hydropower too expensive

 

 
Proceeding with the construction of the almost US$1 billion Amaila Falls Hydropower Station would be “downright criminal” because of the financial burden on the Guyana Power and Light (GPL) and the Treasury, Finance Minister Winston Jordan said.
He said in his 2015 National Budget presentation said under the current financial formula, GPL would be required to pay GUY$130 million to the power station operators, which would amount to GUY$2.6 billion over the duration of the power purchase agreement.
He said that does not include US$45 million spent on the construction of a road to the site of the hydropower station, US$80 million in equity and a US$35 million loan from the Inter American Development Bank (IDB).
“It will be delusion to suggest that GPL has the competence to handle such a financial burden,” he said.
The Finance Minister noted that GPL is saddled with high energy and technical losses and consumers would have to pay higher tariffs while the Treasury would be burdened by financial guarantees.
He said IDB experts have also found that the cost of Amaila Hydropower would be too high.
Instead, he said government would be focusing on the establishment energy farms that would be fuelled from fossil fuelled, wind, solar and  hydro in Mazaruni with Brazil over the next five years. Other communities expected to benefit from renewable energy are Kato, Moco Moco, Tumatumari and Bartica.
FM

RE: According to Jagdeo, the Finance Minister is incompetent in his handling of the Amaila Falls Project, which he says disqualifies him from managing Guyana’s economy.

 

 

Jagdeo, your entire Government was incompetent in all they touched,this is why your party lost the election...suck it up and move on...loser.

cain
Originally Posted by cain:

RE: According to Jagdeo, the Finance Minister is incompetent in his handling of the Amaila Falls Project, which he says disqualifies him from managing Guyana’s economy.

 

 

Jagdeo, your entire Government was incompetent in all they touched,this is why your party lost the election...suck it up and move on...loser.

Cain, don't you think that we should have a professional study to ascertains which is correct........Amaila or no Amaila, as all we are having is no professional edict to say that Amaila is too expensive

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by cain:

RE: According to Jagdeo, the Finance Minister is incompetent in his handling of the Amaila Falls Project, which he says disqualifies him from managing Guyana’s economy.

 

 

Jagdeo, your entire Government was incompetent in all they touched,this is why your party lost the election...suck it up and move on...loser.

Cain, don't you think that we should have a professional study to ascertains which is correct........Amaila or no Amaila, as all we are having is no professional edict to say that Amaila is too expensive

As seen by many of Jagdeo's plans, they were not for the country they were for an elite few, this could also be one of his "plans"

Yes, Guyana needs proper study on this.

cain
Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by cain:

RE: According to Jagdeo, the Finance Minister is incompetent in his handling of the Amaila Falls Project, which he says disqualifies him from managing Guyana’s economy.

 

 

Jagdeo, your entire Government was incompetent in all they touched,this is why your party lost the election...suck it up and move on...loser.

Cain, don't you think that we should have a professional study to ascertains which is correct........Amaila or no Amaila, as all we are having is no professional edict to say that Amaila is too expensive

As seen by many of Jagdeo's plans, they were not for the country they were for an elite few, this could also be one of his "plans"

Yes, Guyana needs proper study on this.

Thanks Bai, we are on the same page, an independent proper study.

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:
So now you have one economist, Jagdeo, saying the project is good and another economist, TK, saying the project is bad.  So who you going to believe?

Neither, I say an independent study is a good way to go.

FM

We should have an independent review of the project. It cannot be supported in it's current form and cost.

 

It is too important of a project to be scrapped. This project will be of great benefit to Guyana.

 

APNU should have an independent review and reconsider this project under their terms and conditions.

FM
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Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by cain:

RE: According to Jagdeo, the Finance Minister is incompetent in his handling of the Amaila Falls Project, which he says disqualifies him from managing Guyana’s economy.

 

 

Jagdeo, your entire Government was incompetent in all they touched,this is why your party lost the election...suck it up and move on...loser.

Cain, don't you think that we should have a professional study to ascertains which is correct........Amaila or no Amaila, as all we are having is no professional edict to say that Amaila is too expensive

The repayment terms alone makes it expensive. The cost of U$1billion is net of interest and upkeep. The true cost based on the know figures such as the repayment comes to close to U$3billion. We cannot get away from the fact with a population of 500,000 that has hardly changed in the last fifty odd years the cost per individual will amount to more than the cost of the electricity most of us are likely to ever use the the whole of our life time.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by asj:

A study was done here, but who on this board can say what it really means:

and who knows whether it was an independent study:

 

http://www.privatisation.gov.g...ion-study-report.pdf

Thanks for posting this.  It is an old report but it has a lot of details.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by cain:

RE: According to Jagdeo, the Finance Minister is incompetent in his handling of the Amaila Falls Project, which he says disqualifies him from managing Guyana’s economy.

 

 

Jagdeo, your entire Government was incompetent in all they touched,this is why your party lost the election...suck it up and move on...loser.

Cain, don't you think that we should have a professional study to ascertains which is correct........Amaila or no Amaila, as all we are having is no professional edict to say that Amaila is too expensive

the amount of studies being done on this projects you still want to waste more tax payers money on consultation  

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

While individuals would have divergent views, Amaila Falls Project is suited for development.

Your point is .. ??...talking to yourself?...Issues will become clearer as time onfolds...Actions are becoming clearer...Unfortunately, ( you)will continue to pursue that path...  babbling nonsense, incessantly
Perhaps perhaps not...Perfect expression as you stare and speak to your reflection in the mirror.
 
 

FM
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

While individuals would have divergent views, Amaila Falls Project is suited for development.

Perhaps not!

an oldie but goodie.... (he) prances, cries and outlines his antics!!!!

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:
So now you have one economist, Jagdeo, saying the project is good and another economist, TK, saying the project is bad.  So who you going to believe?

TK said go Gasahol even in today's environment when the best studies indicated break-even at 80-90 DPB. I actually believe BJ as he was privy to the entire picture.  From what I know, the finance partner pulled out due to political divisions and not feasibility or viability.

 

Granger is a fool to abandon this project in the face of Venezuela's threat.  This key Western financded infrastructure will be smack in the disputed territory and would have vastly reduced Guyana's dependency on imported oil.

 

I am convinced, the PNC is clueless, incompetent and inept and will drag Guyana back through the valley of darkness and death.  Anyway, the PPP will be back in 2020 as the people will get a big chill from the PNC.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by VVP:
So now you have one economist, Jagdeo, saying the project is good and another economist, TK, saying the project is bad.  So who you going to believe?

TK said go Gasahol even in today's environment when the best studies indicated break-even at 80-90 DPB. I actually believe BJ as he was privy to the entire picture.  From what I know, the finance partner pulled out due to political divisions and not feasibility or viability.

 

Granger is a fool to abandon this project in the face of Venezuela's threat.  This key Western financded infrastructure will be smack in the disputed territory and would have vastly reduced Guyana's dependency on imported oil.

 

I am convinced, the PNC is clueless, incompetent and inept and will drag Guyana back through the valley of darkness and death.  Anyway, the PPP will be back in 2020 as the people will get a big chill from the PNC.

You do not count. The idea of you being able to qualify offer a considered evaluation of what faces us is just cheap talk.

 

Amalia as structured is prohibitive. One can achieve similar and far more stable output using wind, solar, mini hydro, and even conventional fossil fuel  plus admixtures of /ethanol/methanol and biomas for far less and without the heavy debt burden to the Chinese.

 

The fear of the Venezuelans is exaggerated. Their claims are spurious and if they move it means it would highlight similar cases ie the Falklands where first world nations have serious stake. Venezuela is asking for property even the spanish did not claim.

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:

i think the best way to go is what Brazil is offering to help develop guyana hydro 

So now you are an expert on hydro electric? Stick with milking the bulls.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Your point is .. ??...talking to yourself?... Issues will become clearer as time onfolds... Actions are becoming clearer... Unfortunately, ( you) will continue to pursue that path...  babbling nonsense, incessantly

Perhaps perhaps not... Perfect expression as you stare and speak to your reflection in the mirror.

Wonderful that you are stating publicly your antics as you stare in the mirror.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Your point is .. ??...talking to yourself?... Issues will become clearer as time onfolds... Actions are becoming clearer... Unfortunately, ( you) will continue to pursue that path...  babbling nonsense, incessantly

Perhaps perhaps not... Perfect expression as you stare and speak to your reflection in the mirror.

Wonderful that you are stating publicly your antics as you stare in the mirror.

Your point is .. ??...talking to yourself?...Issues will become clearer as time onfolds...Actions are becoming clearer...Unfortunately, ( you)will continue to pursue that path...  babbling nonsense, incessantly
Perhaps perhaps not...Perfect expression as you stare and speak to your reflection in the mirror....Wonderful that you are stating publicly your antics as you stare in the mirror.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Your point is .. ??...talking to yourself?... Issues will become clearer as time onfolds... Actions are becoming clearer... Unfortunately, ( you) will continue to pursue that path...  babbling nonsense, incessantly

Perhaps perhaps not... Perfect expression as you stare and speak to your reflection in the mirror.

Wonderful that you are stating publicly your antics as you stare in the mirror.

Your point is .. ??...talking to yourself?...Issues will become clearer as time onfolds...Actions are becoming clearer...Unfortunately, ( you)will continue to pursue that path...  babbling nonsense, incessantly
Perhaps perhaps not...Perfect expression as you stare and speak to your reflection in the mirror....Wonderful that you are stating publicly your antics as you stare in the mirror.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Your point is .. ??...talking to yourself?... Issues will become clearer as time onfolds... Actions are becoming clearer... Unfortunately, ( you) will continue to pursue that path...  babbling nonsense, incessantly

Perhaps perhaps not... Perfect expression as you stare and speak to your reflection in the mirror.

Wonderful that you are stating publicly your antics as you stare in the mirror.

Your point is .. ??...talking to yourself?...Issues will become clearer as time onfolds...Actions are becoming clearer...Unfortunately, ( you)will continue to pursue that path...  babbling nonsense, incessantly
Perhaps perhaps not...Perfect expression as you stare and speak to your reflection in the mirror....Wonderful that you are stating publicly your antics as you stare in the mirror.

Where is KP?

Mitwah

Quite surprising that a project that initially started out at US$300 Million has skyrocket to US1 Billion with US$40 million already spent for this road;

 

The US$40M access roads to Amaila Falls have been built, but there is not likely to be any project anytime soon as it is too costly, Government says.

The US$40M access roads to Amaila Falls have been built, but there is not likely to be any project anytime soon as it is too costly, Government says.

FM
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Originally Posted by asj:

Quite surprising that a project that initially started out at US$300 Million has skyrocket to US1 Billion with US$40 million already spent for this road;

 

The US$40M access roads to Amaila Falls have been built, but there is not likely to be any project anytime soon as it is too costly, Government says.

The US$40M access roads to Amaila Falls have been built, but there is not likely to be any project anytime soon as it is too costly, Government says.

This is not a road. It's a pathway which will soon be taken over by vegetation.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by cain:

Dat aint no road, dat's a trail...something that washes away with heavy rain.

Don't think that it is washed away as yet, still there it is form as per the picture.

FM
Originally Posted by cain:

Dat aint no road, dat's a trail...something that washes away with heavy rain.

Yes geography and topography matter...remember they said this road would cost US$15 mill. When I saw Fip and Jagdeo announced the sum, I knew they were not estimating the true cost. Throughout Guyana's history there has been spectacular project cost overruns. This goes back over 100 years. They announced Amaila would have been US$960 mill. Imagine if there is an overrun of another 1 bill US$ which is not inconceivable. The thing was fraught with risks but the hucksters could not identify all the scenarios. But this is what you get from basemanesque mentality that says you need to be hustler and huckster to pull off these big ticket items. They better thank dem stars dis Amaila thing is put on hold until the country has the economic base to support something this grand.

FM

Amaila Falls Access Road near completion

October 31, 2014 | By | Filed Under News 

…only 28km left to be paved with laterite – Source

Plagued with numerous troubles from its inception, the Amaila Falls Access Road is said to be near completion. This publication has been reliably informed that only 28 km of the 162 km road is left to be paved with laterite.

A completed section of the Amaila Falls Access Road

A completed section of the Amaila Falls Access Road

Section seven which was taken from the local contractors and handed to China Railway First Group (Guyana) Inc, the company that has been slated to build the 840MW Hydro Electric Plant, is complete. According to reports, section three of the road which was contracted to Toolsie Persaud, has a remaining 17 km of roadway left to pave with laterite, while the section contracted out to Ivor Allen Construction Company has an additional 11 km. A decision however is yet to be made as it relates to whether the Kuribrong crossing will be bridged using a fixed bridge or pontoon crossing. At present a pontoon crossing is being utilized. Works completed so far total in excess of US$26M – a far cry from the US$15.4M in the original contract to complete the entire road which was handed to Makeshwar ‘Fip’ Motilall’s Synergy Holdings Inc. More than US$30M in contracts has been handed out over the years, with several contractors failing to make the cut. Earlier this year work on the road had ground to a halt due to bad weather conditions and observers at the time had noted that in future when Government and contractors ink contracts for roads in the interior, they must take into account the documented patterns of rain, given that they are expected to undertake works in a “rainforest.” The road project was being undertaken in a number of segments, with the Ministry of Public Works assuming responsibility for ‘Section Two.’ That section runs along the Mabura Road to the Essequibo River and has a contract price of $336,094,861. Section Three was allocated to Toolsie Persaud Quarries Inc. for $373.3M. That section of the Amaila Falls road stretches from Butukari to the Kaburi Village bypass. The same company has also been awarded a contract for Section Four of the road for $246M. Section Four runs from the Kaburi/Omai junction to the Issano bypass. Ivor Allen was awarded the $182.3M contract for Section Five of the road that runs from the Issano junction to Craig Road. Section Six of the road was awarded to G. Bovell Construction Services for $281.7M, but that contract had to be terminated. It was subsequently granted in two lots, with the first from Issano Junction to Sorrow Hill being allocated to Ivor Allen for $145M. The second lot of Section Six was awarded to Dwarka Nauth for $45M. Hassan N Pasha General Building and Civil Contractor was handed the last and reportedly the most difficult section of the road, ‘Section Seven’ with a contract price of $838M. That contract was terminated in April 2012 after only 15 per cent of the work was completed. Pasha received almost $315M. The contract was subsequently handed to China Railway First Group (Guyana) Inc. for $1.7B (US$8.5M). Only recently Head of State, Donald Ramotar, announced that government would continue to vigorously pursue the mega project which, if undertaken, would be the largest such project in Guyana.

FM

         

 

Amaila Access Road: US$12M spent, 67 percent completed

A completed part of the Amaila Falls Access Road. A completed part of the Amaila Falls Access Road.
 
The government says some US$12M (GUY$2.4B) has already been spent on the Amaila Hydropower Access Road and it would be a reversal of the nation’s fortunes to abandon it now.
The Public Works Ministry flew reporters into the Amaila area on Tuesday for a first-hand look at sections of the road as the government looked to drum up popular sentiment against the opposition’s vote against legislation connected to the US$840M project.
“We have the studies done both environmental, social and hydropower dam studies done, we have the contractor for the building of the dam in place and we’re ready to go so it would be a great shame and a great reversal of our country’s fortunes if we are unable to complete this project,” Minister Robeson Benn said.
The 165-kilometre road is said to be some 67 percent completed and will be laterite-surfaced instead of asphaltic.
Benn added that there were challenges on two of the seven sections of the road, namely Section 7, which is the approach to the dam, and Section 2B. The latter runs through swamplands and the initial contractor on that leg had lost two machines and damaged another two in the swamp.
The APNU and the AFC have linked passage of the Amaila legislation to assent for the four local government bills set to come before the House on Thursday. But while they are government bills the administration has expressed concerns with two of the bills after their exit from a Special Select Committee in which the opposition parties used their majority to make amendments.
The APNU has said it needs a concrete commitment that the bills would be assented to by President Donald Ramotar after its passage through the House in order to support the Amaila legislation. The AFC for its part has said it is awaiting the IDB’s green light for the project before raising the debt ceiling from GUY$1B to $150B as is being sought by the government.
The government only needs one of the parties to side with it on the vote for the Amaila legislation but questions from Demerara Waves Online News about a guarantee of presidential assent has been met repeatedly with vehemence.
The question was posed again on Thursday, this time to Benn.
“I have known of no situation where a minister brought a bill to the parliament and it wasn’t supported … the very fact that they brought the bill presupposes that the bill will be passed, and that it will be assented to on our side,” he said.
Asked further if the president was prepared to make that commitment the minister then said he was not in a position to say what the president “may or may not do.”
Benn then went on to say that he saw no link between the local government bills and the Amaila Project which he said was bigger than those things at the moment.
“We could get elections tomorrow, next week or next year, local government elections or national elections at any time going along whenever it’s decided but we must have the Amaila Falls Project.”
Asked whether strengthening local democracy was of lesser importance than the Amaila Project Benn said he was not.
“If we cannot get a project of this nature going in the country we’ll continue to be poor, underdeveloped and still quarrelling with each other,” the Works Minister said adding that it was an opportune time for the project.
The government has said that based on an estimated 20 percent reduction in electricity tariff from the start of Amaila’s operation residential consumers save approximately $208.7 million monthly or $2.5 billion annually.
And with cheap and reliable power long being a bane of the local industry it is estimated that commercial entities would save some $1.1B annually.

According to figures from the government, it is estimated that the Amaila Hydropower Project could see a reduction in electricity rates by as much as 40 percent while the fuel import bill could drop between 20 and 25 percent.
FM

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