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Ramotar ditches foreign management for Skeldon Factory
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol Thursday, 08 September 2011 16:18

In the wake of opposition to foreign management by the major sugar union, Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) presidential candidate, Donald Ramotar on Thursday said he preferred only technical assistance for the beleaguered Skeldon Sugar Factory. Ramotar’s position appears to be in stark contrast from Agriculture Minister, Robert Persaud who had some weeks ago urged the Guyana Sugar Corporation’s (GuySuco) board to fast-track consideration of proposal for either an Indian or Chinese company to manage the factory because Guyana does not have the expertise.

“I’m not sure if his position, if his assessment is totally correct about our capacity to manage Skeldon but I do know we will probably need some technical assistance from Skeldon in dealing with some of the issues,” said Ramotar. The PPP General Secretary pointed out that GuySuco has the managerial skills and so hopefully there would be no need for a management contract like the Booker-Tate model that was scrapped a couple of years ago.

The Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU), which is closely aligned to the governing Peoples Progressive Party (PPP), has already expressed surprise and disappointment at the fact that Persaud has announced that government was again going overseas for managers to run the industry. “GAWU is very much disappointed by the alleged remarks of the Minister implying that Guyanese are incapable of running the industry. It should be noted that local personnel are managing all the estates of the industry and the industry itself. Why is Skeldon factory now being isolated for possible outside management?” GAWU wants an “honest, objective and collective approach” by all the stakeholders must be a first step to address Skeldon’s woes.

Reiterating that time would prove that the estimated US$200 million Skeldon Factory was a good investment, Ramotar identified the need for the sugar corporation to place greater effort to be placed on field work. “I have no doubt that all the problems at Skeldon will be solved and Skeldon will eventually prove its worth and the good decision that it has been,” he said. He noted that a lot of money has been spent on mechanization and encouraging old and new farmers to prepare for the less labour-intensive operation.

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What can a chinese or Indian do that a Guyanese cannot do? That sets a bad precedent, and Mr. Ramotar is right in his decision. There is a serious blunder hovering over the Skeldon factory, and someone need to find skilled people to do the job. I suggest they should offer an AFC expert to oversee the problem. Smile
FM
The Indians are very experienced with such Task. They have a vibrant Sugar Industry. Just dont bring Help from BIHAR. yippie
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Originally posted by Cobra:
What can a chinese or Indian do that a Guyanese cannot do? That sets a bad precedent, and Mr. Ramotar is right in his decision. There is a serious blunder hovering over the Skeldon factory, and someone need to find skilled people to do the job. I suggest they should offer an AFC expert to oversee the problem. Smile
Nehru
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Originally posted by Nehru:
The Indians are very experienced with such Task. They have a vibrant Sugar Industry. Just dont bring Help from BIHAR.


Ramouthar is diabolically opposed to this. Jagdeo roots as well as many Indo Guyanese are Biharis. I bought Demerar sugar recently and it was not from Guyana.
Mitwah
It is from Malaysia. Guysuco took them to court and lost so they are free to use the name.
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
The Indians are very experienced with such Task. They have a vibrant Sugar Industry. Just dont bring Help from BIHAR.


Ramouthar is diabolically opposed to this. Jagdeo roots as well as many Indo Guyanese are Biharis. I bought Demerar sugar recently and it was not from Guyana.
Nehru
Nehru, seriously, I am in contact with someone who can put a consortium together to manage the sugar esates and production. They are experts and have a better position than Guyana dealing with the world market. Robert is approachable. Ramotar is opposed to the idea. It will now sit on the back burner pending the results of the election.
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Cobra:
Raymond:
Guyana had been managed by wise men before you became an ungrateful dog and continues to be managed while you deflect. Being a cynic is a jinx on expectation.


dude...what's with the name calling? You asked a question...I answered...you must be one of those who can't handle the truth...now, run off
FM
what happened the the guysuco workers who were supposedly sent to South Africa to train in the use of this new technology ?

Burnham nationalization actions which were the design of Cheddi really destroyed the infrastructure of the country's industries , economic and social structures.

It is a pity these morons did not pursue and more sensible gradual self empowerment process as was strongly recommended in the 1940's and 1950's .

Anyway, it is evident that Guyana must find a way of creating some form of political inclusion whereby other political parties can not only participate more meaningfully in the administration of the country but change the tone of the politics .

Time for the Govt to return to privatization even if it refutes Jagan's and Burnham's parties' tenets . What a bunch of jacka55e5 to be supported by so many more jackasse5 .

In mid 1990 Hoyte realized the job was bigger than his dreams and aspirations but at least he had the good sense to try to contract Booker, Tate & Lyle to come back and manage . When they came and review the industry they found Guyana had f&*cked it up so badly that it required USD$20 Million minimum to rehabilitate the industry . These guys are now laughing their as5es off that the govt of Guyana did a USD$110 Million dollar deal to modernize the industry . The fact remains Booker , Tate & Lyle believed the USD$20 Million would have restored the industry and created capital to fund it's own modernization ......but hey what can you say ...these bais aint spending their own money so why gives a flying F&^ck ....sell the f..ing corporation back to Booker or Tate & Lyle and get the darn thing running in the black .
FM
You may be on to something here Bhai. Politics can sometimes be a hinderance. I dont know all the FACTS but you make a loy of sense.
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Originally posted by kidmost:
what happened the the guysuco workers who were supposedly sent to South Africa to train in the use of this new technology ?

Burnham nationalization actions which were the design of Cheddi really destroyed the infrastructure of the country's industries , economic and social structures.

It is a pity these morons did not pursue and more sensible gradual self empowerment process as was strongly recommended in the 1940's and 1950's .

Anyway, it is evident that Guyana must find a way of creating some form of political inclusion whereby other political parties can not only participate more meaningfully in the administration of the country but change the tone of the politics .

Time for the Govt to return to privatization even if it refutes Jagan's and Burnham's parties' tenets . What a bunch of jacka55e5 to be supported by so many more jackasse5 .

In mid 1990 Hoyte realized the job was bigger than his dreams and aspirations but at least he had the good sense to try to contract Booker, Tate & Lyle to come back and manage . When they came and review the industry they found Guyana had f&*cked it up so badly that it required USD$20 Million minimum to rehabilitate the industry . These guys are now laughing their as5es off that the govt of Guyana did a USD$110 Million dollar deal to modernize the industry . The fact remains Booker , Tate & Lyle believed the USD$20 Million would have restored the industry and created capital to fund it's own modernization ......but hey what can you say ...these bais aint spending their own money so why gives a flying F&^ck ....sell the f..ing corporation back to Booker or Tate & Lyle and get the darn thing running in the black .
Nehru
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Originally posted by Cobra:
Mitwah:
Let say people are dedicated to their superiors. Guyana led by a chain of command policy.


This display of outburts show the disarray in the PPP, especially since Moses and Ralph are at the curb side. The PPP does not even have a manifesto for the pending election. Just remember Ramotar was hand picked and not elected. What has become of the PPP congress?
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
in stark contrast from Agriculture Minister, Robert Persaud who had some weeks ago urged the Guyana Sugar Corporation’s (GuySuco) board to fast-track consideration of proposal for either an Indian or Chinese company to manage the factory because Guyana does not have the expertise.

Persaud should be taken outside and beaten to death like a dog.
Guyana has been in the sugar business since the 16th or 17th century, and was together with Suriname, once the world's leading producer of sugar.
Neither India or China can boast of such record in the sugar industry. There are loads of talented Guyanese roaming the world and sticking out above the people around them. To suggest that foreigners can do better is a blatant insult to the skills and integrity of our people.
Mr.T
The core deficiency of Guysuco lies with corporate governance. Periodically rotating the management with not address this glaring constant.

NONE of the DIRECTORS on GUYSUCO's Board possess corporate experience with a credible entity such as Fortune 500 company.
FM
Are you speaking through your ASS?? Get your bloody FACTS straight.
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Originally posted by Mr.T:
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
in stark contrast from Agriculture Minister, Robert Persaud who had some weeks ago urged the Guyana Sugar Corporation’s (GuySuco) board to fast-track consideration of proposal for either an Indian or Chinese company to manage the factory because Guyana does not have the expertise.

Persaud should be taken outside and beaten to death like a dog.
Guyana has been in the sugar business since the 16th or 17th century, and was together with Suriname, once the world's leading producer of sugar.
Neither India or China can boast of such record in the sugar industry. There are loads of talented Guyanese roaming the world and sticking out above the people around them. To suggest that foreigners can do better is a blatant insult to the skills and integrity of our people.
Nehru
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Are you speaking through your ASS?? Get your bloody FACTS straight.

Did Persaud not say those things as attributed to him? If not, what did he say? Come on tell us what you know.
Mr.T
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Ramotar ditches foreign management for Skeldon Factory
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol Thursday, 08 September 2011 16:18

In the wake of opposition to foreign management by the major sugar union, Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) presidential candidate, Donald Ramotar on Thursday said he preferred only technical assistance for the beleaguered Skeldon Sugar Factory. Ramotar’s position appears to be in stark contrast from Agriculture Minister, Robert Persaud who had some weeks ago urged the Guyana Sugar Corporation’s (GuySuco) board to fast-track consideration of proposal for either an Indian or Chinese company to manage the factory because Guyana does not have the expertise.

“I’m not sure if his position, if his assessment is totally correct about our capacity to manage Skeldon but I do know we will probably need some technical assistance from Skeldon in dealing with some of the issues,” said Ramotar. The PPP General Secretary pointed out that GuySuco has the managerial skills and so hopefully there would be no need for a management contract like the Booker-Tate model that was scrapped a couple of years ago.

The Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU), which is closely aligned to the governing Peoples Progressive Party (PPP), has already expressed surprise and disappointment at the fact that Persaud has announced that government was again going overseas for managers to run the industry. “GAWU is very much disappointed by the alleged remarks of the Minister implying that Guyanese are incapable of running the industry. It should be noted that local personnel are managing all the estates of the industry and the industry itself. Why is Skeldon factory now being isolated for possible outside management?” GAWU wants an “honest, objective and collective approach” by all the stakeholders must be a first step to address Skeldon’s woes.

Reiterating that time would prove that the estimated US$200 million Skeldon Factory was a good investment, Ramotar identified the need for the sugar corporation to place greater effort to be placed on field work. “I have no doubt that all the problems at Skeldon will be solved and Skeldon will eventually prove its worth and the good decision that it has been,” he said. He noted that a lot of money has been spent on mechanization and encouraging old and new farmers to prepare for the less labour-intensive operation.

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sachin_05
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Originally posted by sachin_05:
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Ramotar ditches foreign management for Skeldon Factory
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol Thursday, 08 September 2011 16:18

In the wake of opposition to foreign management by the major sugar union, Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) presidential candidate, Donald Ramotar on Thursday said he preferred only technical assistance for the beleaguered Skeldon Sugar Factory. Ramotar’s position appears to be in stark contrast from Agriculture Minister, Robert Persaud who had some weeks ago urged the Guyana Sugar Corporation’s (GuySuco) board to fast-track consideration of proposal for either an Indian or Chinese company to manage the factory because Guyana does not have the expertise.

“I’m not sure if his position, if his assessment is totally correct about our capacity to manage Skeldon but I do know we will probably need some technical assistance from Skeldon in dealing with some of the issues,” said Ramotar. The PPP General Secretary pointed out that GuySuco has the managerial skills and so hopefully there would be no need for a management contract like the Booker-Tate model that was scrapped a couple of years ago.

The Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU), which is closely aligned to the governing Peoples Progressive Party (PPP), has already expressed surprise and disappointment at the fact that Persaud has announced that government was again going overseas for managers to run the industry. “GAWU is very much disappointed by the alleged remarks of the Minister implying that Guyanese are incapable of running the industry. It should be noted that local personnel are managing all the estates of the industry and the industry itself. Why is Skeldon factory now being isolated for possible outside management?” GAWU wants an “honest, objective and collective approach” by all the stakeholders must be a first step to address Skeldon’s woes.

Reiterating that time would prove that the estimated US$200 million Skeldon Factory was a good investment, Ramotar identified the need for the sugar corporation to place greater effort to be placed on field work. “I have no doubt that all the problems at Skeldon will be solved and Skeldon will eventually prove its worth and the good decision that it has been,” he said. He noted that a lot of money has been spent on mechanization and encouraging old and new farmers to prepare for the less labour-intensive operation.

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