What is there to achieve ? When four presidents will have similar policy agreements and one opposing. Guyana politics is too divided, for this initiative to be successful.

Ali should first try to establish a racial consensus with the opposition leader,  before embarking on an all president's meeting.

Ali is suspected of having an ulterior motive for this meeting. 

So far two of those invited were useless..Granger and Ramotar. Can't say much as yet for Ali but that BJ, we gaffa watch he like a hawk.

Something came to mind as I stood out on the back porch, listening to ice and snow melt...sometimes sliding off the roof with a loud thud.

As a teen, going to family functions always had guys giving their reason for being with PPP, UF and a couple close friends the PNC. It would start off with a some back and forth banter ...it then got loud...then louder...then bacanal  taraaassss. Dem guys wives found a way for them get on well together, they stop dem hangin round.

That hang around Jagd..ooops..Ali planning could end up with dem guys carry on bad an start fight up an ting..

@cain posted:

Something came to mind as I stood out on the back porch, listening to ice and snow melt...sometimes sliding off the roof with a loud thud.

As a teen, going to family functions always had guys giving their reason for being with PPP, UF and a couple close friends the PNC. It would start off with a some back and forth banter ...it then got loud...then louder...then bacanal  taraaassss. Dem guys wives found a way for them get on well together, they stop dem hangin round.

That hang around Jagd..ooops..Ali planning could end up with dem guys carry on bad an start fight up an ting..

During our work in GY, we were often invited by families to dinner, or a social event. There was always heavy drinking afterwards, that often ends with a fight while discussing politics, or someone wife, or daughter. Sometimes they fight with a cutlass or a piece of picket fence. I did not get it, because these guys  were friends  and sometimes end up in hospital with injuries. 

We did not stop going, but we don't stay for more than an hour after dinner.

The melted ice also crash here with a loud bang and I sometimes think someone is breaking into my Toyota Lamborghini.   

@Tola posted:

What is there to achieve ? When four presidents will have similar policy agreements and one opposing. Guyana politics is too divided, for this initiative to be successful.

Ali should first try to establish a racial consensus with the opposition leader,  before embarking on an all president's meeting.

Ali is suspected of having an ulterior motive for this meeting.

What is there to achieve? You are asking questions that people don't know, but attendance is important for many reasons, especially for former presidents. Granger should attend and present his plantain chip business to the forum. Granger is ashamed to attend and the people advising are ashamed of what they did during the election. So, these people are losers like Granger. Lick your wounds or scratch your nuts and haul your ass.

@Viper posted:

What is there to achieve? You are asking questions that people don't know, but attendance is important for many reasons, especially for former presidents. Granger should attend and present his plantain chip business to the forum. Granger is ashamed to attend and the people advising are ashamed of what they did during the election. So, these people are losers like Granger. Lick your wounds or scratch your nuts and haul your ass.

How de rass dem gun resolve anything political, when they don't even talk to each other in a peaceful manner ?

Conman Jagdeo always have an angle up his sleeve, standing right behind Ali in the OP.

While you wait, maybe you should dig your ass and smell it too.   

My Prediction: Granger will not attend the meeting with Ali.

I see no reason for him to do so.

@VishMahabir posted:

My Prediction: Granger will not attend the meeting with Ali.

I see no reason for him to do so.

Do you recall what the Chairman of GECOM suggested after adjourned the Commission meeting before declaration of the elections and what was Jagdeo response ? do you think everyone must succumb to the whims and fancies of the PPP ,a political party who feels they have the legitimate right to rule Guyana by hook or crook ? the invitation is for photo op to say everything in the country is normal.

@Tola posted:

How de rass dem gun resolve anything political, when they don't even talk to each other in a peaceful manner ?

Conman Jagdeo always have an angle up his sleeve, standing right behind Ali in the OP.

While you wait, maybe you should dig your ass and smell it too.   

Ok, the PNC should never ask for inclusionary government in the future. Case close. 

Granger asks for postponement of presidential meeting until issues with agenda addressed

By Editor On Dec 11, 2020, Source - https://newsroom.gy/2020/12/11...th-agenda-addressed/

President Irfaan Ali and former President, David Granger

Former President, David Granger has asked for the December 15, 2020, meeting between all former Presidents and President Irfaan Ali to be deferred until several issues he raised are addressed.

In a statement released by Granger’s People’s National Congress Reform (PNC/R) Party, the former President, for the first time, acknowledged receipt of a letter dated December 04, 2020, from Minister of Governance, Gail Teixeira inviting him to a ‘working lunch’ at 12:00h on Tuesday, December 15, at State House.

The party said the letter did not explain amply the purpose of the intended meeting nor recommended an agenda for his examination.

While three other former Presidents have confirmed their attendance at the meeting, Granger emphasised that it would be a huge public disappointment for the proposed high-level meeting to take place, hurriedly, in an unorganised, unplanned manner and without a predictable prospect of progress or success.

“There was no indication of the preparation that would be needed, the relevance of the engagement to government policies and the outcome that would be expected from deliberations. The President’s intention on the other hand, according to newspaper reports, was to generate ideas on Guyana’s development,” the statement added.

Granger reportedly pointed out that he regards Guyana’s development as a serious matter.

Until his concerns about the agenda of the meeting addressed, the former President has declined to attend the meeting scheduled for December 15.

Earlier on Friday, Teixeira said her office did not receive any response from Granger.

President Ali could not be reached on Friday to confirm whether the meeting will go ahead with Granger’s absence.

Former Presidents Donald Ramotar, Samuel Hinds and Bharrat Jagdeo have all confirmed receipt of the invitation and said they intended to attend the meeting prior to Granger’s response.

The meeting is being regarded as a representation of Ali’s commitment to inclusive governance although he has refused to meet with Harmon who holds a constitutional post as Opposition Leader.

Looks like Granger is coming around to acknowledging that he was not duly elected in 2015 so he doesn’t wish to be regarded as former president. He must be remembering that Lowenfield rigged the 2015 elections so it shows the Coalition as having the most votes.

It is better if the sanctimonious gangster stay away anyway.

@Former Member posted:

It is better if the sanctimonious gangster stay away anyway.

Why so much negativity?

@Former Member posted:

It is better if the sanctimonious gangster stay away anyway.

Who is the sanctimonious 'monster',  when  PPP ministers live in mansions, while their ordinary voters struggle for a livelihood. 

@Former Member posted:

Looks like Granger is coming around to acknowledging that he was not duly elected in 2015 so he doesn’t wish to be regarded as former president. He must be remembering that Lowenfield rigged the 2015 elections so it shows the Coalition as having the most votes.

Twisting people's words does not make you king on your pedestal.

@Tola posted:

Twisting people's words does not make you king on your pedestal.

This guy Ilum or whatever his name is very dishonest.  You are right, he makes things up, twists people's words and then he complains when he is exposed. 

GUYANA COMMUNITY DISCUSSION FORUM/POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS  -  IN RETROSPECT ......
Former Member Ksazma

As I have mentioned before, I stumbled upon GNI through sheer happenstance. However, I was happy to find it as it gave me the opportunity to share stories, memories and thoughts about Guyana with other Guyanese. While not a perfect environment it was quite enjoyable and I believe I made quite a few online friends along the way. There were also occasions where we strongly disagreed. I used to be dogmatic in the early days so that didn’t help. Unfortunately over time things got ugly. I got ugly. Very ugly. So ugly that I didn’t recognize myself anymore. It was mostly because if this that I took time off back in 2018. Unfortunately when I returned we were dealing with the NCV so it was right back to the battlefield littered by landmines.

****Recognizing the need to step away again, I decided that I will COMPLETELY LEAVE GNI after the elections but after that continued to linger so did I in extending my stay but I maintained that I will  DEFINITELY LEAVE no later than my anniversary which happens to be on Saturday.  THAT IS STILL MY GOAL***

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BTW Ksazma,  the Iranian refugee couple with a four year old son, that  I wrote you about for assistance, that you refused, are all now Canadian citizens.  She teaches at the University and he owns his own business, while their son is still in school, topping the class.   I have your personal information, but will not give it freely, as you did mine to Baseman.

When I was in primary school I lent an arithmetic book to my classmate named Bibi to do her homework and I will do mine with my neighbour John.  But the next day, she denied that I lent here the book and I got a severe cut rass for losing my book. Since that time it formed in my mind a distrust for Muslims like you.  You also supported that negative feeling when I asked you through Amral for assistance for the refugee family and you refused.

You are a hypocrite !!