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Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by politikalamity:

I have separated the refugee issue because they are two different arguments in different context; do countries bombing Syria have a moral obligation to accept its refugees?

 

Bhai, you have raised a controversial issue here. 

its only controversial if you want it to be..I think it will be more of an interesting discussion

FM

I am more concerned by why other countries have to bomb Syria in the first place and it keeps bringing me back to the same reason. Muslims fighting amongst themselves even after they have a book (which they claim to read and follow) that teaches them not to do so. Imagine the possibilities of the Muslim world if they can just appreciate the injunction; "Hold unto the rope of Allah and be not divided amongst yourselves" I understand that it is not this simple but it could be a lot better if they can just find a way to live amongst each other. That alone would remove a lot of their problems. From there they can build and develop their communities.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:

I am more concerned by why other countries have to bomb Syria in the first place and it keeps bringing me back to the same reason. Muslims fighting amongst themselves even after they have a book (which they claim to read and follow) that teaches them not to do so. Imagine the possibilities of the Muslim world if they can just appreciate the injunction; "Hold unto the rope of Allah and be not divided amongst yourselves" I understand that it is not this simple but it could be a lot better if they can just find a way to live amongst each other. That alone would remove a lot of their problems. From there they can build and develop their communities.

sorry pal but this is not a religious thread...it asks one basic question and you did not give an answer or opinion and why..

FM
Originally Posted by politikalamity:

I have separated the refugee issue because they are two different arguments in different context; do countries bombing Syria have a moral obligation to accept its refugees?

According to the 1951 Geneva Convention regarding the Status of Refugees, all countries have a moral obligation to accept refugees whether or not they were signatories to the Convention. The 1951 Convention is the only global legal instrument dealing with the
status and rights of refugees. The UN High Commission for Refugees is the guardian of that Convention and its 1967 Protocol.

 

FM
Originally Posted by politikalamity:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

I am more concerned by why other countries have to bomb Syria in the first place and it keeps bringing me back to the same reason. Muslims fighting amongst themselves even after they have a book (which they claim to read and follow) that teaches them not to do so. Imagine the possibilities of the Muslim world if they can just appreciate the injunction; "Hold unto the rope of Allah and be not divided amongst yourselves" I understand that it is not this simple but it could be a lot better if they can just find a way to live amongst each other. That alone would remove a lot of their problems. From there they can build and develop their communities.

sorry pal but this is not a religious thread...it asks one basic question and you did not give an answer or opinion and why..

If the bombing is to eliminate the threat which creates the refugees, then there would ultimately be no need for any migration. Otherwise, the bombing is fruitless. In any case, the current refugee situation in question was not created by European countries bombing of Syria.

FM
Originally Posted by politikalamity:

I have separated the refugee issue because they are two different arguments in different context; do countries bombing Syria have a moral obligation to accept its refugees?

which country bombing Syria initiated this refugees. there are 3 million in Jordan another million in Lebanon and that began 4 years ago. There were 250 to europe last year and another 700k this year....who again is to be blamed for that?

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

there are 3 million in Jordan another million in Lebanon and that began 4 years ago. There were 250 to europe last year and another 700k this year....who again is to be blamed for that?

That is good point and sheds light on what is grossly under reported in the western media; non western countries have absorbed the bulk of the refugees.

 

That being said, for whatever reason, when western countries decided to get directly involved it also meant that they were wiling to deal with the consequences which is includes displacement of humans and part of that responsibility IMO includes resettlement of displaced people.

 

At the same time the Western countries that have been directly involved in the bombing have taken in an extremely minuscule number of Syrian refugees and this includes Canada

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by politikalamity:

I have separated the refugee issue because they are two different arguments in different context; do countries bombing Syria have a moral obligation to accept its refugees?

According to the 1951 Geneva Convention regarding the Status of Refugees, all countries have a moral obligation to accept refugees whether or not they were signatories to the Convention. The 1951 Convention is the only global legal instrument dealing with the status and rights of refugees. The UN High Commission for Refugees is the guardian of that Convention and its 1967 Protocol.

 

1. The 1951 Geneva Convention provided refugee protection primarily for Europeans, after the Second World War.

 

2. The 1967 Protocol expanded the approach to include refugees from all parts of the world.

FM

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