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Reply to Freddie to Question on ‘Indianness’


Dear Editor,

Freddie penned that he hasn’t discovered his ‘Indianness’ and requests from me (and others) an explanation of what it is” (May 15). ‘Indianness’, as a concept, is no different from say Africanness or Blackness, Irishness, Italianness, Turkishness, Ukrainianness, Germanness, etc. – an inner feeling and pride in one’s ethnicity and cultural background that members of the group experience. There is a special feeling one gets about being a member of one’s ethnicity that is hard to describe.

I did not understand and consciously subscribe to the concept of ‘Indianness’ until a couple years after I entered university (1977) as a 16-year-old and began learning theories in social sciences and humanities – sociology, anthropology, history, political science – while pursuing a degree in Bio-Chemistry.

In Guyana, ‘Indianness, like Chineseness and Portugueseness,’ etc., was silenced and repressed during the period of the dictatorship. Unlike during the authoritarian years in Guyana, in democratic America or Canada, one is free to promote and adhere to one’s ethnic identity – Blackness or Indianness or Irishness. The Whiteman does not deny anyone his or her identity in America; it was suppressed a hundred years ago but not today. In Queens alone, where some 300,000 Indian Caribbean people and half a million other Indians are settled, there are over 200 ethnic groups with each celebrating identity with parades and cultural expression. ‘Indianness’ is in vogue and cheered by mainstream politicians of other ethnicities who celebrate with Indians their various festivals and national days.

One is born into an ethnic group. In my case, I am born an Indian and in Guyana, making me Indian, Guyanese, West Indian, Indo-Caribbean, and Caribbean – multiple identities. I can’t suppress any of them in favour of another. A people can’t deny race or ethnicity or nationality

who when Indian Guyanese or Indian Trinis travel abroad, they are not viewed as Guyanese or Trinidadian. They are seen as Indian and so labeled, defined, and treated (with hostility or embrace). As an illustration, Freddie is perhaps the most ‘non-ethnic’ person in Guyana; he does not subscribe to ‘Indianness’ and he champions the interests of countless non-Indians. Yet those very non-Indians see him as an Indian and treat him with odor from time to time.

When Indian Guyanese and Trinis were denied purchasing of homes (from Italians, Irish, Germans) in Richmond Hill, Queens during the 1970s and early 1980s, it was not because they were Guyanese but because the (sellers) viewed them as Indians who were not welcomed in their white neighbourhood (of course, Indians are now embraced by all ethnicities) because of educational achievements and acquisition of enormous wealth – the ‘most educated’ and highest income group in the US). When Indians were attacked by the ‘dot busters’ (Hispanics, African Americans, and Italians) during the 1980s and 1990s in New Jersey, it was not because of nationality or even religion, but race; both Indo-Caribbeans and South Asians were targeted. Being Guyanese or Trini or Jamaican, did not grant the Indians reprieve from violence. When Indians were beaten (driven out of) at Wismar, Linden, Agricola, Georgetown, West Berbice and other locations, it was on account of their ‘Indianness’ or race. The perpetrators of the violence didn’t ask them which party they supported. In fact, Indian supporters of AFC, WPA, and PNC were also violated.

When I entered university in 1977 in Harlem and went to participate in Caribbean Club activities and meetings at CCNY, I was not welcomed. Other Indo-Caribbeans and I were treated with hostility and contempt and told “You are not one of us. You are East Indians, not West Indians (defined as Black)”. The feeling of Blackness was on display and nothing was wrong with it. Afro Caribbeans were proud of their identity and told us we are not one of them. Naturally, a feeling of ‘Indianness’ emerged. So we had to form our own student organization, Indo Club.

As I learn from my studies in sociology and practical experience, a people (race or ethnic group) define themselves and are defined by others. That is a law of nature or reality; it is so everywhere including in the US. As I learn in studies in anthropology, the group embraces and or subscribes to certain values or culture (music, cuisine, music, arts, language, traditions, customs, clothing, etc.) that distinguish them from another group. They are proud of who they are as well as their values and community or group or organization affiliation. Identity stays in you and is transferred into lineage; one can deny it but others label you based on physical appearance.

If there is a civil war or an act of injustice against my group, like an election rigging to deny my group political power in a polarized nation, people will expect me to support my group against the riggers or violent elements. Off course, if my group is perpetrating acts of injustice against members of another group, decency requires that I take a position against such acts (especially rigging election).

I must point out that invoking or expressing pride or adhering to values of my ethnicity (brought by my ancestors from India) does not deny that of others (‘Africanness’, for example) who don’t belong in my ethnicity, and I also embrace those not from my ethnicity or of mixed ethnicity who subscribe to my cultural values. We must respect and embrace all regardless of ethnic ancestry and cultural values. No one should attack or violate another on account of ethnicity like what happened in West Berbice in September 2020. Such behaviour must be condemned.

Yours truly,

Vishnu Bisram

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@Mitwah posted:

Nice letter by VB. Hope FK will now discover his "Indianess". Perhaps he should watch Alex Haley's 1976 novel, Roots or visit his ancestral land like Bharat Jagdeo.

Nothing wrong to claim "Indianess" .Is "Indo-Caribbean" Indian or East-Indian ?

Django
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In Guyana, ‘Indianness, like Chineseness and Portugueseness,’ etc., was silenced and repressed during the period of the dictatorship.

This is not true, East-Indian Hindu religious observations Pagwah (Holi) ,Diwali (Deepavali) and Muslims religious observations Youman-Nabi, Eid-ul-Adha was declared public holidays in Guyana during the Burnham era.

Many of Vishnu Bisram writings are controversial .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...c_holidays_in_Guyana

Django
Last edited by Django

Post-elections violence of 1997 caused me to realise my ‘Indianness’

Dear Editor,

In response to Freddie Kissoon’s request for an understanding of my ‘Indianness’, I would have to say that I did not really know I was Indian until I returned home to Guyana in 1997.

Sure, I grew up on the Corentyne with my Indian Muslim family and attended school and had mostly Indian friends because the primary and secondary schools I attended had a majority of Indian pupils. I grew up in Rose Hall Village and was aware of Africans, Chinese, Portuguese and ‘dougla’ people and was aware at a certain level of cultural and racial differences and was also aware of the race riots of the 1960s.

Any awareness of myself as Indian, I took for granted. Perhaps, this was partly youthful innocence and, partly, an underdevelopment of a political consciousness. There was certainly no demand from anyone for an explanation about who I was.

When I emigrated to the United States in the mid-70s, fleeing the PNC dictatorship like thousands of others, it was the start of a 20-year journey in foreign parts. I lived, studied and worked in the US, the UK, and the Cayman Islands. These are first world countries peopled mostly by whites. I consider my time abroad as a success. I experienced no overt or adverse prejudices because of my ethnicity. I believe I was treated fairly and would even go so far as to say that my ethnicity perhaps played a positive role in landing me a job in the UK because of affirmative action policies.

Again, I was never called on to explain myself vis a vis my ethnicity. It was never an issue. It was my return to Guyana in 1997 and the terror of the post elections violence that erupted in the city streets that shocked me into the realisation that I was Indian. The African Guyanese mobs were chanting and calling out for the “coolie”.

I had been aware of the anti-Indian racism that drove the Burnham dictatorship but had left and left it behind, and this return was my baptism of fire, so to speak, and it made me realise fully who I was and what this meant for me in my very own country of birth. It was that shock, after years of living peacefully abroad among strangers, that brought me up sharp and started me on my investigation into my heritage, took me on a journey of discovery into my culture and ethnicity, and helped shape my political consciousness about myself, my people and what this means in the context of our country. In short, I needed to try and make sense of the situation where I and every other Indian Guyanese was – and continue to be –targets for African Guyanese violence and violations.

My ‘Indianness’ is not just a personal understanding of myself but extends to that wider humanity whereby one cannot help but feel empathy and compassion for anyone in your community who is wronged and unjustly treated. I share a DNA not only of biology but of history and culture with my Indian community. This is perhaps the only surety of ourselves that we ever have about who we are.

Sincerely,

Ryhaan Shah

Django
@Django posted:

In Guyana, ‘Indianness, like Chineseness and Portugueseness,’ etc., was silenced and repressed during the period of the dictatorship.

This is not true, East-Indian Hindu religious observations Pagwah (Holi) ,Diwali (Deepavali) and Muslims religious observations Youman-Nabi, Eid-ul-Adha was declared public holidays in Guyana during the Burnham era.

Many of Vishnu Bisram writings are controversial .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...c_holidays_in_Guyana

bishram has a hidden agenda

FM

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