Islam has no place in the modern world. It has discredited itself. Two main differing versions of islam have been the cause of many massacres in the Middle East in the last two decades. Bombing of the mosques of the opposing factions is a regular occurrence. You do not need any further evidence that we are looking here at satanic worshipping.

T, the only response to that is that those are the actions of 0.001% of people who claim Islam to be their faith. Do the other 99+% agree with the sectarian violence of the Middle East that results in bombing of mosques of opposing factions? I think not. Then should we discard their faith and call it discredited?

I regularly see this figure of 0.001% quoted, But that figure only tries to tally the ones engaged in hardcore violence. The actual percentage who are devoted to the cause is far greater. It is only because of increased security methods from the various government that the violence perpetrated by muslims on non-muslims isn't greater.

Mr.T posted:

I regularly see this figure of 0.001% quoted, But that figure only tries to tally the ones engaged in hardcore violence. The actual percentage who are devoted to the cause is far greater. It is only because of increased security methods from the various government that the violence perpetrated by muslims on non-muslims isn't greater.

It is a lot more than less than 1%. I say this because the moderates who are in opposition to this kind of Islam are silent, or slow in speaking out. I am sure the majority of muslim also see Buddhists and Hindus as "infidels", and Islam does not permit a working relationship with them. More and more of them are doing so today. This has to be a problem fought from within, a solution cannot be imposed by the western countries. 

We are constantly reminded, there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Why do muslims keep referring this number. Is it an indication of dominance. Should I be worried that my beliefs are going to be compromised by a faith that has mere numbers, associated with so many wrongs against non-muslims. All over the world.

Maybe, the muslims on here could answer this question. Is it true that Islam will dominate the world-according some Middle-Eastern Muslims? Before you answer, please be sure you check what the authentic people of Islam said about that prophecy.

Even if Muslims profess the hubristic view of Islam, I have to refer where it says in the Quran that there is no compulsion in Islam. If it is said that you will not go to heaven in the hereafter on the Day of Judgement because you don't do practice EVERY aspect of the religion, then it is like any other religion.

The 1.6 billion figure includes a majority of Muslims who are like in the 80% median (think the Bell curve) that do not pray 5 times a day or go to mosques often, etc. This is not a majority who are ascetic, conservative or extremists but they are Muslims. It is mentioned because it is a significant number of people on the planet who are being told they are terrorists or support terrorism, while no other religion does this. It is not that Muslims want to dominate the world and cite this number. Again, it goes back to the lack of compulsion in Islam.

The promise of all dem virgins does focus the mind.

Actualy T, here's a question that I saw in yesterday's NY Times quiz on religion. Which scripture describes the Virgin Mary as preferred by God over all other women? And the answer was the Quran (the other choices were the Gospel of Luke, New Testament; and the Gospel of Matthew, New Testament. This had me thinking of what aspect of virginity is meant here - remain a virgin - pure and not touched; or a reward?

http://muslimreformmovement.org/

For those who still believe that real Islam and the majority of Muslims see a non-Muslims and automatically process that person as an infidel should consider the following Qur'anic verse;

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ وَالَّذِينَ هَادُواْ وَالنَّصَارَى وَالصَّابِئِينَ مَنْ آمَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحاً فَلَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ عِندَ رَبِّهِمْ وَلاَ خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلاَ هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ (2:62)

• Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. - 2:62

VishMahabir posted:

Mr.T posted:

I regularly see this figure of 0.001% quoted, But that figure only tries to tally the ones engaged in hardcore violence. The actual percentage who are devoted to the cause is far greater. It is only because of increased security methods from the various government that the violence perpetrated by muslims on non-muslims isn't greater.

It is a lot more than less than 1%. I say this because the moderates who are in opposition to this kind of Islam are silent, or slow in speaking out. I am sure the majority of muslim also see Buddhists and Hindus as "infidels", and Islam does not permit a working relationship with them. More and more of them are doing so today. This has to be a problem fought from within, a solution cannot be imposed by the western countries. 

The 1% chose to become the Lucifers of death, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.  They have huge silent undercover moral support by the community in which they live.  Just think of the few thousand dancing in the streets as the WTC collapsed, how many more were hi-fiving behind closed doors.

The mistrust among a large swath of the US population is vast.

Islam needs to be rolled back on the US by banning that face mask garb, more actively tracking/monitoring people, outlawing any Sharia practices, etc.

The act of traveling to Syria/Iraq, expression of support for extremism, embracing Sharia, etc should be considered acts of treason.  This will allow the stripping of naturalized citizenship and the close control and/or internment of born citizens.

We are at war!

Kari posted:

It is not that Muslims want to dominate the world and cite this number. Again, it goes back to the lack of compulsion in Islam.

They aspire to fly the sickle over Downing street and Pennsylvania Ave!

baseman posted:

They aspire to fly the sickle over Downing street and Pennsylvania Ave!

huh?

baseman posted:

The 1% chose to become the Lucifers of death, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.  They have huge silent undercover moral support by the community in which they live.  Just think of the few thousand dancing in the streets as the WTC collapsed, how many more were hi-fiving behind closed doors.

The mistrust among a large swath of the US population is vast.

Islam needs to be rolled back on the US by banning that face mask garb, more actively tracking/monitoring people, outlawing any Sharia practices, etc.

The act of traveling to Syria/Iraq, expression of support for extremism, embracing Sharia, etc should be considered acts of treason.  This will allow the stripping of naturalized citizenship and the close control and/or internment of born citizens.

We are at war!

hysterical nonsense by a feckless prancing coward

comically pro-ignorance

this swinish GNI klown will be the first in line squealing like a lil girl when the blind side licks start coming

Trump mussbe laughing his hair off at the 'hopeful' brown ones clicking their heels . . . seeking shelter in his tent of the deranged, dangerous and ignorant

ksazma posted:

For those who still believe that real Islam and the majority of Muslims see a non-Muslims and automatically process that person as an infidel should consider the following Qur'anic verse;

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ وَالَّذِينَ هَادُواْ وَالنَّصَارَى وَالصَّابِئِينَ مَنْ آمَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحاً فَلَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ عِندَ رَبِّهِمْ وَلاَ خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلاَ هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ (2:62)

 

• Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. - 2:62

 

As a footnote, Allah is used in the Middle East to refer to God. Even the Bible used the word Alah to refer to God.

 

How about the 12 tribes of Israel. Is God gonna overlook the Islamic denials of their existence. There are a whole lot of scriptures about those who challenge the children of Israel.

Sure, in the last days, the burden to be righteous would be very trying. Persecution is the trial to find the 144,000 righteous souls who bears the affliction for Jesus Christ.

There seems to be a confusion in understanding the sacred books. It suits different people with different objectives. 

The heart knows the Almighty. Like it is written, that is His temple and all the scared thoughts come to heart. Evil ones too. The Holy Spirit gives discernment.