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FM
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OK Folks!

 

Let's revisit some numbers from the 2011 Guyana election:

 

PPP = 166,340 votes = 48.6%

 

PNC = 139,678 votes = 40.8%

 

AFC = 35,33 votes = 10.3%

 

PPP RECEIVED THE MOST VOTES!

 

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NOW CHECK THIS:

 

PNC/AFC = 175,011 votes = 51.1%

 

PPP = 166,340 votes = 48.6%

 

 

CONCLUSION:

 

It is patently clear that the majority of Guyanese prefer a party other than the PPP in the executive branch---the combined PNC/AFC received 175,011 votes while the PPP reeived 166,340 votes.

 

BUT THE BURNHAM CONSTITUTION SAYS THE PPP MUST FORM THE GOVERNMENT.

 

Hmmmm! Burnham has been dead since 1985---but the man still runs things in Guyana---the PPP should build a statue of Burnham and place it infront of Freedom House.hahahaha

 

 

WHAT THE PNC & AFC OUGHT TO DO

 

The PNC and AFC ought to grant the Guyanese people their wish--they should form a coalition before the next election---in that way the people can vote the PPP out of office.

 

WHAT SAYS YOU GOOD FOLKS ?

 

Should the AFC and PNC form a coalition and allow the majority of Guyanese people to have their wish---have another party feast on the milk and honey in the executive branch ?

 

NO PNC/AFC COALITION AND BURNHAM WILL KEEP THE PPP IN CONTROL OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH!

 

Rev

 

 

 

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Joker!

 

THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE!

 

The majority of Guyanese voters in the 2011 did not want the PPP in the executive branch.

 

PNC/AFC = 175,011 votes = 51.1%

 

PPP       = 166,340 votes = 48.6%

 

Now, if the AFC and PNC politicians respect the wishes of the Guyanese people they will form a coalition before the next election, and in this way the Guyanese people can vote Ramotar and his boys out of the executive branch.

 

 

RE: POWER SHARING

 

The PNC/AFC coalition will then share power in the executive branch once the PPP loses---both parties(afc and pnc) will feast on the milk and honey--and the majority of Guyanese voters will be happy.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

Joker!

 

THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE!

 

The majority of Guyanese voters in the 2011 did not want the PPP in the executive branch.

 

PNC/AFC = 175,011 votes = 51.1%

 

PPP       = 166,340 votes = 48.6%

 

Now, if the AFC and PNC politicians respect the wishes of the Guyanese people they will form a coalition before the next election, and in this way the Guyanese people can vote Ramotar and his boys out of the executive branch.

 

 

RE: POWER SHARING

 

The PNC/AFC coalition will then share power in the executive branch once the PPP loses---both parties(afc and pnc) will feast on the milk and honey--and the majority of Guyanese voters will be happy.

 

Rev

 

 

Rev, you setting these boys up or what.

FM

amral:

 

* The blowhards from the AFC and PNC come on this forum day in and day out and cuss out the PPP.

 

* The majority of Guyanese people voted against the the PPP in the last election.

 

* So the solution to getting the PPP out of the executive branch, and making the majority of Guyanese voters happy, is for Moses and the AFC form a coalition with Granger and the PNC.

 

 

The Rev is highly confident Berbicians will be elated when fellow Berbician Moses announces he will be joining up with the PNC to defeat the PPP.hahahaha

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 
Rev, you setting these boys up or what.

 

 

Baseman:

 

The Rev is a man of HIGHER STANDARDS!

 

We need to raise the level of discourse on this forum.

 

So the Rev figures he will help the AFC and PNC satisfy the wishes of the majority of Guyanese people.

 

My advice to the AFC and PNC is to form a coalition---that's how you eject the PPP from the executive branch.

 

THE GUYANESE PEOPLE WANT THE PNC/AFC TO FEAST ON THE MILK AND HONEY.

 

You saw the numbers from the last election---and NUMBERS DON'T LIE---the majority of Guyanese people want the PPP out.

 

From henceforth there should be no complaining about the PPP---AFC and PNC supporters should call on their leaders to form a coalition.

 

MOSES JOINS UP WITH PNC TO EJECT PPP FROM OFFICE.lol

 

That's racial progress right there in good old Guyana.

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

FM

OK Folks!

 

Will The East Indians in the AFC, Moses, Ramjattan, etc, etc, vehemently oppose the coalition with the PNC ?

 

There is no doubt the afros in the AFC, Nigel, Trotman, etc, etc will welcome the coalition idea.

 

If it is true that Moses, Ramjattan and the other East Indians in the AFC oppose the coalition with the PNC---then it is crystal clear who the racists in Guyana are----it's not the PPP---it's the East Indians in the AFC.

 

Remember folks---the majority of Guyanese want the PPP out of the executive branch---its up to East Indians Moses, Ramjattan, etc to support the PNC/AFC coalition.

 

What says you folks ?

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 
Rev, you setting these boys up or what.

 

 

Baseman:

 

The Rev is a man of HIGHER STANDARDS!

 

We need to raise the level of discourse on this forum.

 

So the Rev figures he will help the AFC and PNC satisfy the wishes of the majority of Guyanese people.

 

My advice to the AFC and PNC is to form a coalition---that's how you eject the PPP from the executive branch.

 

THE GUYANESE PEOPLE WANT THE PNC/AFC TO FEAST ON THE MILK AND HONEY.

 

You saw the numbers from the last election---and NUMBERS DON'T LIE---the majority of Guyanese people want the PPP out.

 

From henceforth there should be no complaining about the PPP---AFC and PNC supporters should call on their leaders to form a coalition.

 

MOSES JOINS UP WITH PNC TO EJECT PPP FROM OFFICE.lol

 

That's racial progress right there in good old Guyana.

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

The future of the AFC lies in the arms of the PNC. Time for Moses to join with the PNC or risk ending his political future in the ditch. Good call Rev.

 

The AFC Indo racists will try to prevent this from happening. No wonder they have paid bloggers on this site peddling nonsense all day long.

 

Now who is racist again ? Ha Ha.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

The future of the AFC lies in the arms of the PNC. Time for Moses to join with the PNC or risk ending his political future in the ditch. Good call Rev.

 

The AFC Indo racists will try to prevent this from happening. No wonder they have paid bloggers on this site peddling nonsense all day long.

 

Now who is racist again ? Ha Ha.

cretinous PPP antiman #3 with shyte dripping down his forehead checks in

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
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The future of the AFC lies in the arms of the PNC. Time for Moses to join with the PNC or risk ending his political future in the ditch. Good call Rev.

 

The AFC Indo racists will try to prevent this from happening. No wonder they have paid bloggers on this site peddling nonsense all day long.

 

Now who is racist again ? Ha Ha.

 

Yuj:

 

THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE!

 

In the last election the majority of Guyanese people voted for the PNC and AFC---these 2 parties received 175,011 votes; the PPP 166,340

 

THE GUYANESE PEOPLE WANT THE PPP OUT OF OFFICE!

 

All the AFC has to do is agree to a coalition with the PNC and the Guyanese people will get their wish in the next election---the PPP will lose the presidency.

 

Now yuji, what's preventing the AFC from forming the coalition with the PNC ?

 

We all know former PNCites, Nigel Hughes and Raphael Trotman, are dying to re-connect with their beloved PNC, but the major stumbling block remains former PPPites, Moses and Ramjattan.

 

QUESTION:

 

Why are the East Indian members of the AFC, Moses, Ramjattan, Gerhard, TK, etc, etc afraid of the PNC ?

 

Will the East Indians in the AFC deny the Guyanese people their wish---seeing the PPP out of office ?

 

ONLY A PNC/AFC COALITION CAN DISLODGE THE PPP FROM OFFICE.

 

It's time for Moses, Ramjattan and other East Indians in the AFC to stop being racists---stop hating the AFRO dominated PNC---do the Guyanese people a favor---fulfill their wishes---JOIN THE PNC IN A COALITION.

 

A PNC/AFC coalition will dislodge the PPP and help solve the racial issues in Guyana.

 

IT'S NOW UP TO MOSES, RAMJATTAN AND COMPANY!

 

What says you good folks on GNI ?

 

Rev

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by JoKer:

I would be embarassed to have non-Indians read shyte like this.

 


Joker!

 

 

Look in the mirror! The youngman staring back at you obviously has a self esteem problem---he also fancies himself to be inferior to the white and black man--that's unfortunate---sad!

 

Listen joker!

 

THE MAJORITY OF GUYANESE VOTERS WANT THE PPP OUT OF OFFICE

 

The Rev showed you the numbers: PNC/AFC 175,011; PPP 166,340

 

All the AFC has to do is form a coalition with the PNC!

 

FACT:

 

Former PNCites Nigel Hughes and Raphael Trotman are longing for such a coalition---it would be like going back home. But the East Indians in the AFC, Moses, Ramjattan, are opposed to the coalition.

 

The Rev calls on the East Indians in the AFC to do what is right for the Guyanese people---agree to the PNC/AFC coalition.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
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The future of the AFC lies in the arms of the PNC. Time for Moses to join with the PNC or risk ending his political future in the ditch. Good call Rev.

 

The AFC Indo racists will try to prevent this from happening. No wonder they have paid bloggers on this site peddling nonsense all day long.

 

Now who is racist again ? Ha Ha.

 

Yuj:

 

THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE!

 

In the last election the majority of Guyanese people voted for the PNC and AFC---these 2 parties received 175,011 votes; the PPP 166,340

 

THE GUYANESE PEOPLE WANT THE PPP OUT OF OFFICE!

 

All the AFC has to do is agree to a coalition with the PNC and the Guyanese people will get their wish in the next election---the PPP will lose the presidency.

 

Now yuji, what's preventing the AFC from forming the coalition with the PNC ?

 

We all know former PNCites, Nigel Hughes and Raphael Trotman, are dying to re-connect with their beloved PNC, but the major stumbling block remains former PPPites, Moses and Ramjattan.

 

QUESTION:

 

Why are the East Indian members of the AFC, Moses, Ramjattan, Gerhard, TK, etc, etc afraid of the PNC ?

 

Will the East Indians in the AFC deny the Guyanese people their wish---seeing the PPP out of office ?

 

ONLY A PNC/AFC COALITION CAN DISLODGE THE PPP FROM OFFICE.

 

It's time for Moses, Ramjattan and other East Indians in the AFC to stop being racists---stop hating the AFRO dominated PNC---do the Guyanese people a favor---fulfill their wishes---JOIN THE PNC IN A COALITION.

 

A PNC/AFC coalition will dislodge the PPP and help solve the racial issues in Guyana.

 

IT'S NOW UP TO MOSES, RAMJATTAN AND COMPANY!

 

What says you good folks on GNI ?

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

You are not as smart as you think. 

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
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You are not as smart as you think. 

 

 HA HA HA HA

 

 

 

TK:

 

The Rev sees you are one of the East Indians in the 10% party---the AFC.

 

WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO A COALITION WITH THE PNC ? IS THAT PARTY TOO BLACK FOR YOU ?

 

Listen TK---you can negotiate for a Minister job in the coalition.

 

TK---Minister of finance; Gerard--Minister of Trade; Moses---Prime Minister---Nigel---Attorney General---Ramjattan---whatever ?

 

By the way, how many ministries would the AFC demand in a coalition with the PNC ?

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by TK:
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You are not as smart as you think. 

 

 HA HA HA HA

 

 

 

TK:

 

The Rev sees you are one of the East Indians in the 10% party---the AFC.

 

WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO A COALITION WITH THE PNC ? IS THAT PARTY TOO BLACK FOR YOU ?

 

Listen TK---you can negotiate for a Minister job in the coalition.

 

TK---Minister of finance; Gerard--Minister of Trade; Moses---Prime Minister---Nigel---Attorney General---Ramjattan---whatever ?

 

By the way, how many ministries would the AFC demand in a coalition with the PNC ?

 

Rev

 

 

 

One of the things you should know about me is  was actively involved, as a very young guy, in the constitutional reforms that you seem only now discover.  

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
 
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 One of the things you should know about me is  was actively involved, as a very young guy, in the constitutional reforms that you seem only now discover.  


TK:

 

The Rev now calls on you to be actively involved in forging a coalition between the PNC and AFC.

 

THE GUYANESE PEOPLE WOULD WELCOME SUCH A COALITION!

 

You have seen the numbers from the last election:

 

PNC/AFC 175,011; PPP 166,340

 

ONLY A PNC/AFC COALITION CAN EJECT THE PPP FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH!

 

Go ahead TK--work on your fellow East Indian Moses and Khemraj--convince them to rescue Guyana from the PPP---form that coalition---PNC/AFC!

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by TK:
 
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 One of the things you should know about me is  was actively involved, as a very young guy, in the constitutional reforms that you seem only now discover.  


TK:

 

The Rev now calls on you to be actively involved in forging a coalition between the PNC and AFC.

 

THE GUYANESE PEOPLE WOULD WELCOME SUCH A COALITION!

 

You have seen the numbers from the last election:

 

PNC/AFC 175,011; PPP 166,340

 

ONLY A PNC/AFC COALITION CAN EJECT THE PPP FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH!

 

Go ahead TK--work on your fellow East Indian Moses and Khemraj--convince them to rescue Guyana from the PPP---form that coalition---PNC/AFC!

 

Rev

 

 

 

You should ask your dad what was the motivation for Pandit Reepu to insist that coalitions be made before and not after election in exchange for term limits for the Presidency. Was the "holy man" establishing the groundwork for the next generation racists like you to cry "don't split the votes"?

FM

TK:

 

Let's deal with the present!

 

Guyana today desperately needs a coalition between the 10% party, the AFC, and the PNC.

 

The Burnham constitution will likely keep the PPP in power forever if that PNC/AFC coalition is not forged before next election.

 

The Rev calls on the East Indians in the AFC to do what's right for Guyana---form a coalition with the PNC and dislodge the PPP from the executive branch.

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

FM

THE PPP AND THEIR SUPPORTERS ARE SHAKING IN THEIR BOOTS!

 

 

They know a PNC/AFC coalition will spell doom for the PPP.

 

 

* The majority of voters in Guyana would welcome a change in the executive branch.

 

* It's all up to Moses, Ramjattan and the East Indians in the AFC.

 

* If Moses and his bais agree to the AFC/PNC coalition---the PPP will be history in the next election---they'll be fired from the executive branch.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Brutus:
Simplistic analysis - the pnc suffers from a deficit of trust which mind you can be remedied by genuine overtures to its non- traditional supporters and I am no talking about creeps and token indians

Yes that's a very good point with which I agree. I am going to start developing some of these exact thoughts. But you are right, I believe, that the PNC has to signal credibly. 

FM
Originally Posted by Brutus:
the pnc suffers from a deficit of trust

 

Brutus:

 

The PNC has a reputation for being deceitful and dishonest in their dealings with coalition partners---in the 1960s they royally screwed the UF.

 

But the lawyers in the AFC are a wily bunch, and they ought to be able to craft a credible coalition agreement with the PNC.

 

ONLY A PNC/AFC COALITION CAN EJECT THE PPP.

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by JoKer:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

This is the fellow joker? No wonder he fell for the PNC trap, he was too young to know of rice flour and black eye  peas. hahahaha

 

Yes I was born in the PNC dictatorship and no my family were hard working people. Hard working people didn't have to eat rice flour and peas

Nothing is really wrong with rice flour. It makes good pancakes. You can even mix it wheat flour. Pigeon peas are very tasty. 

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by JoKer:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

This is the fellow joker? No wonder he fell for the PNC trap, he was too young to know of rice flour and black eye  peas. hahahaha

 

Yes I was born in the PNC dictatorship and no my family were hard working people. Hard working people didn't have to eat rice flour and peas

Nothing is really wrong with rice flour. It makes good pancakes. You can even mix it wheat flour. Pigeon peas are very tasty. 

 

And this is where you and the AFC/PNC want to take back Guyana, to the days of rice flour bread and  black eye dhall. Funny enough Burnham shared the same opinion. ahahahahh

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by JoKer:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

This is the fellow joker? No wonder he fell for the PNC trap, he was too young to know of rice flour and black eye  peas. hahahaha

 

Yes I was born in the PNC dictatorship and no my family were hard working people. Hard working people didn't have to eat rice flour and peas

Nothing is really wrong with rice flour. It makes good pancakes. You can even mix it wheat flour. Pigeon peas are very tasty. 

 

And this is where you and the AFC/PNC want to take back Guyana, to the days of rice flour bread and  black eye dhall. Funny enough Burnham shared the same opinion. ahahahahh

 

Don't get hopeful. We will not ban anything so as to allow scoundrel smugglers like you to mess things up. It will be a free market and rice flour and pigon peas etc will be made desirable by policy. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

This is the fellow joker? No wonder he fell for the PNC trap, he was too young to know of rice flour and black eye  peas. hahahaha


BG:

 

An acquaintance of mine, Ramesh Kalicharran, of Kali Realty in Queens, NY briefly introduced me to Farouk Samaroo a few years back---I found him to be a mild-mannered, pleasant, modest young man.

 

On this board poster Joker is somewhat bombastic, but in person Farouk Samaroo is a polite and gracious fella--at least in the presence of his elders.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

This is the fellow joker? No wonder he fell for the PNC trap, he was too young to know of rice flour and black eye  peas. hahahaha

 


BG:

 

An acquaintance of mine, Ramesh Kalicharran, of Kali Realty in Queens, NY briefly introduced me to Farouk Samaroo a few years back---I found him to be a mild-mannered, pleasant, modest young man.

 

On this board poster Joker is somewhat bombastic, but in person Farouk Samaroo is a polite and gracious fella--at least in the presence of his elders.

 

Rev

What sort of stupid title you have for this thread? Say it plainly, the PPP prefers the PNC custom-made-for-dictators constitution! Otherwise we would have seen attempts from them at a democratization through  serious revisions to the document. Instead we have them reflecting on it   constantly in their efforts to circumvent democracy

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
What sort of stupid title you have for this thread?


Stormy:

 

The thread went in a different direction!

 

Forget the title!

 

* Do you agree that the majority of Guyanese voters want the PPP out of office ?

 

* Won't a PNC/AFC coalition be the best way to eject the PPP from the executive branch ?

 

 

THE BIG QUESTION:

 

* Should the AFC demand that any coalition between the PNC and AFC be a coalition of equals ?

 

* Should the AFC demand sharing the presidency--for example---first 3 years PNC Granger is president---last 2 years AFC's Moses is president ?

 

What says you stormy ?

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
What sort of stupid title you have for this thread?


Stormy:

 

The thread went in a different direction!

 

Forget the title!

 

* Do you agree that the majority of Guyanese voters want the PPP out of office ?

 

* Won't a PNC/AFC coalition be the best way to eject the PPP from the executive branch ?

 

 

THE BIG QUESTION:

 

* Should the AFC demand that any coalition between the PNC and AFC be a coalition of equals ?

 

* Should the AFC demand sharing the presidency--for example---first 3 years PNC Granger is president---last 2 years AFC's Moses is president ?

 

What says you stormy ?

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

 I do not want the constitution. Whether there are coalitions ( in the constitution as it is is or revised to accommodate them after the fact)  is inconsequential to my thinking.  If you have time to waste speculating on nonsense, I do not.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
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 I do not want the constitution.


Stormy:

 

You may not want the constitution, but the PPP loves the Burnham constitution---it's keeping them in power.

 

THE PPP WILL NEVER AGREE TO CHANGING THE BURNHAM CONSTITUTION AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN POWER!

 

Now Stormy--the Guyanese voters want the PPP out of office---51.1% of the voters voted for the PNC/AFC in the last election.

 

The only way for the wish of the majority to be satisfied is for the AFC and PNC to form an agreeable coalition.

 

And once the PPP is voted out of office they will be more amenable to changing the constitution.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
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 I do not want the constitution.


Stormy:

 

You may not want the constitution, but the PPP loves the Burnham constitution---it's keeping them in power.

 

THE PPP WILL NEVER AGREE TO CHANGING THE BURNHAM CONSTITUTION AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN POWER!

 

Now Stormy--the Guyanese voters want the PPP out of office---51.1% of the voters voted for the PNC/AFC in the last election.

 

The only way for the wish of the majority to be satisfied is for the AFC and PNC to form an agreeable coalition.

 

And once the PPP is voted out of office they will be more amenable to changing the constitution.

 

Rev

The PPP don't have to agree. The opposition have to disagree that it is of relevance.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
The PPP don't have to agree. The opposition have to disagree that it is of relevance.

Two thirds of the parliament have to agree inorder to amend the constitution---am I right or wrong ?

 

If I am right---the PPP has a pivotal role to play in any changes to the constitution.

 

But before we get to changing the constitution---the PPP needs to be voted out of office----and only a PNC/AFC coalition could bring this about.

 

The Rev is getting the feeling that many AFCites, particularly East Indian AFC members, are against any coalition with the PNC---they are 100% convinced the PNC will screw them.

 

Rev

 


 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
The PPP don't have to agree. The opposition have to disagree that it is of relevance.

Two thirds of the parliament have to agree inorder to amend the constitution---am I right or wrong ?

 

If I am right---the PPP has a pivotal role to play in any changes to the constitution.

 

But before we get to changing the constitution---the PPP needs to be voted out of office----and only a PNC/AFC coalition could bring this about.

 

The Rev is getting the feeling that many AFCites, particularly East Indian AFC members, are against any coalition with the PNC---they are 100% convinced the PNC will screw them.

 

Rev

 


 

Rev,

 

The AFC is full of racists. They hate blacks hence their rejection of a marriage with the PNC. The AFC is a very racist party.

FM

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