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FM
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In the history of Guyana, the only political party that has shown a genuine and honest-to-goodness interest in the welfare and education of the children of Guyana has been the People's Progressive party. Under the PNC the majority of Guyanese schools were delapidated. Educating the Guyanese children was not a priority of the PNC--PNC politicians wanted children to partake in mass games and nonsense like national service---reading and arithmetic were discouraged by the PNC---they wanted to duncify Guyanese children. Since the PPP took over the government, 1000 schools across Guyana were either built or rehabilitated. Those who educate the children of a country will always be honored---the PPP will always be honored.

 

Over at the AFC--you heard Moses brag in parliament about being abusive to his grandchildren--what a mean and nasty dirtbag! And Ramjattan only cares about his own children. Infact, the AFC has cut funding for poor Guyanese---only Moses and Ramjattan's children must have computers---not the poor children of Guyana.

 

We all know the PNC destroyed Guyana---it's a waste of oxygen chatting about the PNC---the only way the PNC gets back into office is if quacks and frauds like Moses, Ramjattan and the other members of the Alliance of Frauds and Crooks(AFC) continue to hoodwink Guyanese---that must never happen.

 

FACT:

 

The PPP is the only political party in Guyana that genuinely cares about the welfare and education of the children of Guyana. May the PPP forever rule Guyana--Give praise to President Ramotar and company.

 

Rev

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by PRK:

..... they are allowing UG to fail so they can send the poor to Cuba. 


Back in the 1980s many UG graduates could not write a coherent sentence---the fact that you are able to post a decent sentence on this forum is clear evidence that the standards have improved at UG since the PPP took over.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by PRK:

..... they are allowing UG to fail so they can send the poor to Cuba. 


Back in the 1980s many UG graduates could not write a coherent sentence---the fact that you are able to post a decent sentence on this forum is clear evidence that the standards have improved at UG since the PPP took over.

 

Rev

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My classmates can read and write very well. My father went there in the 1970s and he can do the same. The PPP did not make me know how to read and write. My family did. I plan to migrate because we do not have job options in Guyana. UG today is the worst it has ever been.

FM
Originally Posted by PRK:
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I plan to migrate because we do not have job options in Guyana.


Always do what is best for you. And never, never, never give up on your dreams.

 

If you choose to migrate---I wish you well.

 

Here in the United States you have millions of college graduates doing jobs a high school grad could do---you have 300,000 college grads working as waiters and waitresses because they cant find better jobs---the situation is worse in Europe---Europe may soon implode---anyway, do what you think is best for you---never let anyone discourage you---Good luck!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by PRK:
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I plan to migrate because we do not have job options in Guyana.


Always do what is best for you. And never, never, never give up on your dreams.

 

If you choose to migrate---I wish you well.

 

Here in the United States you have millions of college graduates doing jobs a high school grad could do---you have 300,000 college grads working as waiters and waitresses because they cant find better jobs---the situation is worse in Europe---Europe may soon implode---anyway, do what you think is best for you---never let anyone discourage you---Good luck!

 

Rev

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I don't have any chance of going to the US. I am heading to the Caribbean. I don't want to go to Cuba.

FM

READ THIS:

 

quote:
“Because the construction sector has grown rapidly, so much so that we hear one of the captains of the private sector complaining about skills, and we have thought about that as well, and that is why we have built several technical institutes in different parts of the country, so that we can train skills directly for the construction sector; and also in other sectors in which we will have relations to them,” he pointed out.


“The building sector has had a very strong (and) positive impact on our economy, and (has) created a lot of jobs and a lot of economic activities in Guyana.
“At the same time, it is a clear signal that our economy is doing much better than it has done in the past,” the President underscored.



 

http://www.guyanachronicleonline.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=44432:at-building-expo-launch&catid=4:top-story&Itemid=8

 

Excellent work by the PPP---building technical institutes in different parts of Guyana to train Guyanese.

 

Not everyone can attend University---the Rev likes the ideas of developing apprenticeship programs.

 

By the way---for those who attend University---if you major in bull$hit areas like black studies, asian art, etc, etc you can expect to flip burgers at Burger King when you graduate.

 

Rev

FM
Last edited by Former Member

 

 

Kaieteur News apologises for misleading nation on education minister’s remarks

 

 

Kaieteur News publisher

 

 

Kaieteur News on Friday apologised to Education Minister Priya Manickchand for carrying an article captioned “Manickchand tells teachers if they don’t like the salary, quit”.

 

 The Kaieteur article also claimed that Manickchand said teachers who are dissatisfied with their salaries and are not dedicated to educating the nation’s children, should quit their job.

 

Kaieteur News further alleged that the education minister made the “disturbing” comment during a recent public consultation at the New Amsterdam Secondary School, Berbice.

 

The minister was at the time speaking at a conference attended by Region Six headteachers, teachers and education officers to determine the future of the ministry’s automatic promotion and corporal punishment policies.

 

 

Comedy

AFC leader Khemraj Ramjattan

 

Even after Kaieteur News offered an apology to Manickchand for publishing the misleading article, the Alliance For Change (AFC) issued a press statement calling on Minister Manickchand to apologise to the teachers.

 

The AFC harping on the misinformation published, said it was alarmed by the reprehensible, callous and uncaring attack on teachers by the education minister.

The party, continuing its tirade over the non-issue, accused Manickchand of sending a clear message which indicates that she is sitting on her privileged plump perch and is divorced from the realities of Guyana.

 

Not knowing that it was tremendously fooled by the misinformation, the party led by Khemraj Ramjattan, contended that the education minister’s advice to teachers was disrespectful.

 

The deceived AFC said that Manickchand is suggesting that jobs are widely available in Guyana and that teachers can simply end their engagement with the ministry and walk into another profession or pursue other professional opportunities.

 

The AFC party which was made a thorough fool by the Kaieteur News said it stands unwaveringly with Guyana’s dedicated teachers despite their challenging circumstances.

 

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OBSERVATION:

 

WHILE THE THE PPP IS COMMITTED TO EDUCATING THE CHILDREN OF GUYANA---THE AFC IS COMMITTED TO LYING AND DECEIVING!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Comedy

AFC leader Khemraj Ramjattan

 

Even after Kaieteur News offered an apology to Manickchand for publishing the misleading article, the Alliance For Change (AFC) issued a press statement calling on Minister Manickchand to apologise to the teachers.

As expected. 

LOL

 

Gerhard, you need to monitor what Khemraj says and have a conversation with him every now and then. It is time that you take a leadership role.

FM
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Originally Posted by Mitwah:

Rev what chance a student, entering primary school now, has of reaching university?

It depends on the parents raising that child---most parents have no business being parents---they bring children into this world---and that's it---they dont teach them right from wrong---or make sure that their children get a proper education.

 

Anyway, for kids who don't get to university---the Rev would like to see more apprenticeship programs---kids needs to learn a trade or skill.

 

Rev

FM

Rev, the following is an extract from a report of 1996. It seems like nothing has changed since.

 

It is within this context that the following issues have emerged on the education and training agenda and have received prominent attention, especially over the last decade.

 

Declining coverage of the educational system, particularly at the secondary levels.

 

Dominance of the educational system by the examination process (SSEE, SSPE, NFFAT, CXC). It therefore runs the risk of merely providing students with a capacity to write examinations and not think critically for the world of work.

 

Expenditure patterns that favour secondary and tertiary education, when the priorities should emphasise primary education.

 

Excessive emphasis in the secondary level on elite education, with a disproportionate amount of funding going to one school and to subsidise the costs of CXC examinations.

 

Low quality and rapid turnover of educational facilitators (i.e., teachers, lecturers, instructors).

 

Overcrowding in some schools and lack of non-teacher inputs, such as school furniture, textbooks, equipment. According to the recent Living Standards Measurement Survey, over half the students attend schools in which there are no textbooks.

 

The increasing failure of the educational system to attract students (as measured by class attendance).

 

The questionable relevance of the curriculum throughout the educational system in preparing students for the Guyanese job market.

 

Large regional differences in the availability and condition of the physical infrastructure and quality of educational inputs.

 

The emergence of increasing inequities in access to education, in the form of a growing parallel fee-paying system of delivery of education at all levels.

 

As a result of these various factors, a student entering primary school now has only a 4 percent chance of reaching university.

 

Faced with this situation, the current administration has set itself "To provide equal access to all Guyanese children and young people to quality education." Achieving this goal requires a focus on fundamental policy reforms, which are discussed in this document, as well as on the issues that are peculiar to each level within the educational system.

Mitwah

PRK,

In the US hiring managers want critical thinkers and people who can write and have good analytical skills. Students in the liberal arts do better that these. The unemployment rate among college grads is only about 5%, much below the national average of 8.2%. Hiring managers do not speak highly business undergraduates. However, if you do master’s and doctorates in obscure areas like literature you will be in trouble. However, private sector love to hire people with bachelor’s in literature, history and so on. See the following Wall Street Journal article.

 

 

FM

PRK,

In the US hiring managers want critical thinkers and people who can write and have good analytical skills. Students in the liberal arts do better that these. The unemployment rate among college grads is only about 5%, much below the national average of 8.2%. Hiring managers do not speak highly business undergraduates. However, if you do master’s and doctorates in obscure areas like literature you will be in trouble. However, private sector love to hire people with bachelor’s in literature, history and so on. See the following Wall Street Journal article.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

April 5, 2012 (Wall Street Journal) 

 

Wealth or Waste? Rethinking the Value of a Business Major

 

By MELISSA KORN

 

More than one of every five undergrads is a business major, but the discipline might not deserve such a large following. Melissa Korn has details on The News Hub.

Undergraduate business majors are a dime a dozen on many college campuses. But according to some, they may be worth even less.

More than 20% of U.S. undergraduates are business majors, nearly double the next most common major, social sciences and history.

The proportion has held relatively steady for the past 30 years, but now faculty members, school administrators and corporate recruiters are questioning the value of a business degree at the undergraduate level.

The biggest complaint: The undergraduate degrees focus too much on the nuts and bolts of finance and accounting and don't develop enough critical thinking and problem-solving skills through long essays, in-class debates and other hallmarks of liberal-arts courses.

Companies say they need flexible thinkers with innovative ideas and a broad knowledge base derived from exposure to multiple disciplines. And while most recruiters don't outright avoid business majors, companies in consulting, technology and even finance say they're looking for candidates with a broader academic background.

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William Sullivan, co-author of "Rethinking Undergraduate Business Education: Liberal Learning for the Profession," says the divide between business and liberal-arts offerings, however unintentional, has hurt students, who see their business instruction as "isolated" from other disciplines.

Schools are taking the hint. The business schools at George Washington University, Georgetown University, Santa Clara University and others are tweaking their undergraduate business curricula in an attempt to better integrate lessons on history, ethics and writing into courses about finance and marketing.

Top College Degrees

Bachelor's awarded by field for the 2008-09 academic year

  • Business: 347,985, or 21.7%
  • Social sciences and history: 168,500, or 10.5%
  • Health professions and related clinical sciences: 120,488, or 7.5%
  • Education: 101,708, or 6.4%
  • Psychology: 94,271, or 5.9%
  • Visual and performing arts: 89,140, or 5.6%

Source: National Center for Education Studies

Along with more than 20 other U.S. and European business schools, those institutions met last month at George Washington for a conference to discuss ways to better integrate a liberal-arts education into the business curriculum. It was organized by the Aspen Institute, a nonprofit group with an arm that studies management education and society. Other participants included Franklin & Marshall College, Babson College and Esade, a business and law school at Barcelona's Ramon Llull University.

Doug Guthrie, dean of the George Washington University School of Business, is planning to draw on expertise in the university's psychology and philosophy departments to teach business ethics and he'll seek help from the engineering program to address sustainability. He expects to introduce the new curriculum, which will also include a core course on business and society, in the fall.

 

Such changes should appease recruiters, who have been seeking well-rounded candidates from other disciplines, such as English, economics and engineering. Even financial companies say those students often have sharp critical-thinking skills and problem-solving techniques that business majors sometimes lack.

"Firms are looking for talent. They're not looking for content knowledge, per se," says Scott Rostan, founder of Training the Street Inc., which provides financial training courses for new hires at a number of investment banks. "They're not hiring someone just because they took an M&A class."

 

Business degrees have been offered since at least the 1800s, but they were often considered vocational programs. Some experts argue that the programs belong at trade schools and that students should use their undergraduate years to learn something about the world before heading to business school for an M.B.A.

 

Next fall, the University of Denver's Daniels College of Business will provide a required course to teach first-year students how to view business issues in a global context. The class, being piloted this spring, will have instruction in business history, ethics, social responsibility, sustainability and other subjects.

Introducing such concepts early in students' academic careers should help them "connect the dots," says Daniel Connolly, associate dean for undergraduate programs at the business school.

 

Even some European schools, which have encouraged a narrow focus in college studies historically, are looking to expand.

"Education is more than technical learning," says Alfred Vernis, director of university programs at Esade. He says the humanities need to be "embedded" in the rest of the program. Esade expects to unveil a new undergraduate business curriculum for the fall of 2013.

 

Are schools going far enough? It's too early to tell, many recruiters say. But in any case companies will probably continue to look at nonbusiness students to ensure a diverse pool.

 

Facebook Inc., a hot destination for many college graduates, doesn't recruit based on a particular major. "It's not about what you have or haven't studied," says Kristen Clemmer Meeks, a recruiting manager at the social-media company. She says some jobs require more analytical know-how, though new hires for those teams can come from business, economics, math or other programs.

 

Margaret Copete is director of North America campus recruiting at consultancy Booz & Co., which increased undergraduate hiring 59% this academic year. She says that about a third of the newest class studied business in school, and the rest majored in subjects including math, nursing and economics. At the undergraduate level, Ms. Copete says, she's looking for students with "the basic building blocks" who can be trained "to be great consultants."

 

Many schools already require students to take at least some courses outside their business major. Jed Somers, a 22-year-old senior at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School, says that while much of his schedule was filled with Wharton-specific requirements, he enrolled in Brazilian drumming and art history, among other courses. (Wharton says about half of its students' courses are in the liberal arts.)

Mr. Somers will begin a job in fixed-income index product sales at Barclays Capital in July. He believes that studying business helped him secure the position because it showed he's "passionate" about the field.

 

Tara Udut, the head of campus recruitment for the Americas at Barclays, says that about half the bank's new analyst hires in recent years have come from business, finance, economics or accounting but that "students from nonfinance backgrounds bring a valuable perspective." Still, she says, applicants from the liberal arts often need to "undertake extra due diligence on the industry."

 

Write to Melissa Korn at melissa.korn@wsj.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FM

It is interesting when I see American conservatives and Guyanese Marxist-Leninists advocate against people going to college. I am always suspicious as I know these people want a malleable population who ask simple questions and see things as black/white. There are no nuances. Complexities and feedback loops don’t exist for these people. Everything is just simple. For American conservatives health care and decent pay are not civil liberties. In Guyana the PPP elites send their children to Canada and UWI to study while the kids of the masses must go to Cuba which will send back home a bunch malleable souls willing to swallow the confused leftist kool aid. Never mind the elites busy doling out tax payers monies in special contracts to friends and families.

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
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As a result of these various factors, a student entering primary school now has only a 4 percent chance of reaching university.


Hmmmm! If that is true and only 4% will get to University---then the Rev is absolutely correct that there should be more apprenticeship programs that will benefit the 96% who will not get to University---any kid who needs to learn a skill or trade after primary or high school ought to be afforded that opportunity.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
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As a result of these various factors, a student entering primary school now has only a 4 percent chance of reaching university.


Hmmmm! If that is true and only 4% will get to University---then the Rev is absolutely correct that there should be more apprenticeship programs that will benefit the 96% who will not get to University---any kid who needs to learn a skill or trade after primary or high school ought to be afforded that opportunity.

 

Rev

Rev, but the budget pattern for expenditures  favours secondary and tertiary education, when the priorities should emphasize primary education and like you say skill or trade training.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by martin Carter:

And Cuban education in medicine is second to none. 


Any medical doctors on this forum ? Is it true what martin stated above ?

 

How are the cuban trained doctors in Guyana perceived ?

 

By the way, do you folks realize that mathematically 50% of all doctors graduate in the bottom half of their class ?

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by martin Carter:

And Cuban education in medicine is second to none. 


Any medical doctors on this forum ? Is it true what martin stated above ?

 

How are the cuban trained doctors in Guyana perceived ?

 

By the way, do you folks realize that mathematically 50% of all doctors graduate in the bottom half of their class ?

 

Rev

I know US doctors who have interacted with Cuban doctors in Guyana.  They think they are very well trained especially dealing in 3rd world conditions.  They are trained to diagnose and treat in almost battle field conditions.  They are credible however, to say they are "second to none" is a bit of a stretch.  Many doctors from China and India tend to have the same attributes.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

They kept Castro alive so they must have to be somewhat good.

 

They are also keeping Venezuela's Chavez alive--and he has cancer. Maybe the PPP should have taken Cheddi to Cuba instead Walter Reed in the US--he may still be alive today. lol

 

Rev


Rev Bhai

 

Like you want to start a conspiracy theory ? LOL

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

Rev Bhai Like you want to start a conspiracy theory ? LOL

 


Well yuji, Janet Jagan and her children clearly didn't think highly of the Cuban medical system--they shipped Cheddi off to Walter Reed---the doctors at Walter Reed said, "so this was the communist rable rouser who harshly condemned and criticized the great US of A in the 60s ? The rest is history.

 

Rev

FM

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