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Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

Whether the stadium is profitable or not it stands as a symbol of prosperity. Guyanese are happy to know they have a stadium under Jagdeo administration. Every small Island in the Caribbean has a stadium, and no one complains.


Some People Baan fuh complain, eat, shit and dont do anything else.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

What sort of revenue is it generating?

 

Anything happening there these days?

They're playing soccer now my friends tell me.  On sept. 11 Guyana played El Salvadore, losing 2 to 3. Apart from that, I would imaginge there are other shows going on. But how much revenue all this is generating, I couldn't say.

Sheik101
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

Whether the stadium is profitable or not it stands as a symbol of prosperity. Guyanese are happy to know they have a stadium under Jagdeo administration. Every small Island in the Caribbean has a stadium, and no one complains.

Who is complaining? The stadiums on the small islands are always filled. BTW, Barbados don't have any snakes.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Sheik101:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

What sort of revenue is it generating?

 

Anything happening there these days?

They're playing soccer now my friends tell me.  On sept. 11 Guyana played El Salvadore, losing 2 to 3. Apart from that, I would imaginge there are other shows going on. But how much revenue all this is generating, I couldn't say.

I spoke to a recent arrival, and he mentioned that patrons are staying away due to robberies that are commited at gun point and knives under the nose of the security forces and even the daughter of the head of security was robbed.

 

Cars are stolen even from secured areas and after five years there is still no ashphalt for the partking lot.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

Whether the stadium is profitable or not it stands as a symbol of prosperity. Guyanese are happy to know they have a stadium under Jagdeo administration. Every small Island in the Caribbean has a stadium, and no one complains.


Some People Baan fuh complain, eat, shit and dont do anything else.


without questions, how can a country move forward? Do you prefer that everyone be quiet and just let things be?

Govt and their workers are public servants, people have a right to make observations and ask questions if they are concerned

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

Whether the stadium is profitable or not it stands as a symbol of prosperity. Guyanese are happy to know they have a stadium under Jagdeo administration. Every small Island in the Caribbean has a stadium, and no one complains.

A country cannot be run like your practise

A country needs to run on business sense. Let's put the stadium to a vote and see how many people would say Guyana needed that stadium. If the stadium is of no use then let's start to undo it and everything that has ever built so far. You need to look into Ramjattan and Gerhard practice.

FM

Remember, progress in Guyana spells entropy for the AFC. That is why they keep criticizing all progressive development. Even St Lucia have better stadiums then Guyana, paid with tax payers dollars and only used seasonally. No one asks if it is making money as people are well aware that stadiums are for the national good rather than a money making enterprise. Ask if stadiums in the US are profitable, most if not all are subsidized by tax payers. 

 

The Nation: Stop The Subsidy-Sucking Sports Stadiums

A coalition of contractors and construction laborers march and rally outside the Barclays Center construction site to protest Bruce Ratner's Atlantic Yards development in Brooklyn, New York on Wednesday, July 27, 2011. Organizers say Ratner's promise of contracts and jobs for community residents have not been kept.
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A coalition of contractors and construction laborers march and rally outside the Barclays Center construction site to protest Bruce Ratner's Atlantic Yards development in Brooklyn, New York on Wednesday, July 27, 2011. Organizers say Ratner's promise of contracts and jobs for community residents have not been kept.

 
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Neil deMause, a journalist based in Brooklyn, New York, is a contributing editor to City Limits, a senior editor for Baseball Prospectus and the co-author, with Joanna Cagan, of Field of Schemes.

On a busy streetcorner in downtown Brooklyn, the steel girders are starting to rise. After a decade of protests by residents (including local celebrities like Steve Buscemi, Jennifer Egan and Jonathan Lethem) and innumerable lawsuits, developer Bruce Ratner's vision of a new arena to bring the New Jersey Nets basketball team to Brooklyn — with the aid of about $500 million in city and state subsidies — is taking root, with a scheduled opening in September 2012.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Remember, progress in Guyana spells entropy for the AFC. That is why they keep criticizing all progressive development. Even St Lucia have better stadiums then Guyana, paid with tax payers dollars and only used seasonally. No one asks if it is making money as people are well aware that stadiums are for the national good rather than a money making enterprise. Ask if stadiums in the US are profitable, most if not all are subsidized by tax payers. 

 

The Nation: Stop The Subsidy-Sucking Sports Stadiums

A coalition of contractors and construction laborers march and rally outside the Barclays Center construction site to protest Bruce Ratner's Atlantic Yards development in Brooklyn, New York on Wednesday, July 27, 2011. Organizers say Ratner's promise of contracts and jobs for community residents have not been kept.
EnlargeBebeto Matthews/AP

A coalition of contractors and construction laborers march and rally outside the Barclays Center construction site to protest Bruce Ratner's Atlantic Yards development in Brooklyn, New York on Wednesday, July 27, 2011. Organizers say Ratner's promise of contracts and jobs for community residents have not been kept.

 
text size A A A
August 5, 2011

Neil deMause, a journalist based in Brooklyn, New York, is a contributing editor to City Limits, a senior editor for Baseball Prospectus and the co-author, with Joanna Cagan, of Field of Schemes.

On a busy streetcorner in downtown Brooklyn, the steel girders are starting to rise. After a decade of protests by residents (including local celebrities like Steve Buscemi, Jennifer Egan and Jonathan Lethem) and innumerable lawsuits, developer Bruce Ratner's vision of a new arena to bring the New Jersey Nets basketball team to Brooklyn — with the aid of about $500 million in city and state subsidies — is taking root, with a scheduled opening in September 2012.


BGURD, You expect these Morons to understand Business, Progress and Investment????

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Remember, progress in Guyana spells entropy for the AFC. That is why they keep criticizing all progressive development. Even St Lucia have better stadiums then Guyana, paid with tax payers dollars and only used seasonally. No one asks if it is making money as people are well aware that stadiums are for the national good rather than a money making enterprise. Ask if stadiums in the US are profitable, most if not all are subsidized by tax payers. 

 

The Nation: Stop The Subsidy-Sucking Sports Stadiums

A coalition of contractors and construction laborers march and rally outside the Barclays Center construction site to protest Bruce Ratner's Atlantic Yards development in Brooklyn, New York on Wednesday, July 27, 2011. Organizers say Ratner's promise of contracts and jobs for community residents have not been kept.
EnlargeBebeto Matthews/AP

A coalition of contractors and construction laborers march and rally outside the Barclays Center construction site to protest Bruce Ratner's Atlantic Yards development in Brooklyn, New York on Wednesday, July 27, 2011. Organizers say Ratner's promise of contracts and jobs for community residents have not been kept.

 
text size A A A
August 5, 2011

Neil deMause, a journalist based in Brooklyn, New York, is a contributing editor to City Limits, a senior editor for Baseball Prospectus and the co-author, with Joanna Cagan, of Field of Schemes.

On a busy streetcorner in downtown Brooklyn, the steel girders are starting to rise. After a decade of protests by residents (including local celebrities like Steve Buscemi, Jennifer Egan and Jonathan Lethem) and innumerable lawsuits, developer Bruce Ratner's vision of a new arena to bring the New Jersey Nets basketball team to Brooklyn — with the aid of about $500 million in city and state subsidies — is taking root, with a scheduled opening in September 2012.


BGURD, You expect these Morons to understand Business, Progress and Investment????

Nehru bhai, if the stadium is idle, it means that revenue is not being generated. It goes beyond the grounds men, security, artistes, sports players and other performers. It means that the small vendors cannot ply their trade;T-shirts, poloury, doubles, roti and chicken, hennesy and pork cuttahs etc.... these create employment and help spin off other revenue streams like Gamont, Boarding, Lodging and Flogging... I have no problem with the GOG susidizing the stadium, since they would be collecting VAT from the sales generated by the activities from the operation  of the Stadium.

 

Storm understood my question and I agree with his answer that we do need creative marketing and forget about the politics.

 

That is a consequence of a lack of management. They need to sell the stadium by time slots far in advance. Actually, someone could buy all the time slots and literally make a pretty penny brokering time slots by creative marketing.

 
Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Remember, progress in Guyana spells entropy for the AFC. That is why they keep criticizing all progressive development. Even St Lucia have better stadiums then Guyana, paid with tax payers dollars and only used seasonally. No one asks if it is making money as people are well aware that stadiums are for the national good rather than a money making enterprise. Ask if stadiums in the US are profitable, most if not all are subsidized by tax payers. 

 2012.

 Stupid man, enthropy is fundamental to all systems.

 

The matter is the management of the resource now that it is here and the burden of repaying the loans on it is on the nations back.

 

Cities are able to sell subsidy of stadiums because the are instrumental to a large extent in revitalizing the communities where they are located. Is ours revitalizing the area around which it is located?

 

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

 Stupid man, enthropy is fundamental to all systems.

 

The matter is the management of the resource now that it is here and the burden of repaying the loans on it is on the nations back.

 

Cities are able to sell subsidy of stadiums because the are instrumental to a large extent in revitalizing the communities where they are located. Is ours revitalizing the area around which it is located?

 

Nonsense, most if not all stadiums are run at a loss and require tax payers subsidy.

The revitalization of communities is a myth that has been disproven time and time again.  In fact tax payers are often left holding the shaft. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

 Stupid man, enthropy is fundamental to all systems.

 

The matter is the management of the resource now that it is here and the burden of repaying the loans on it is on the nations back.

 

Cities are able to sell subsidy of stadiums because the are instrumental to a large extent in revitalizing the communities where they are located. Is ours revitalizing the area around which it is located?

 

Nonsense, most if not all stadiums are run at a loss and require tax payers subsidy.

The revitalization of communities is a myth that has been disproven time and time again.  In fact tax payers are often left holding the shaft. 

Aha! So now you are changing your tune to: that the PPP has built a white elephant and has misled the people by letting the tax payers hold the shaft.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

 Stupid man, enthropy is fundamental to all systems.

 

The matter is the management of the resource now that it is here and the burden of repaying the loans on it is on the nations back.

 

Cities are able to sell subsidy of stadiums because the are instrumental to a large extent in revitalizing the communities where they are located. Is ours revitalizing the area around which it is located?

 

Nonsense, most if not all stadiums are run at a loss and require tax payers subsidy.

The revitalization of communities is a myth that has been disproven time and time again.  In fact tax payers are often left holding the shaft. 

 What are you assuming here?....a right of the government to waste the people's money?

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

AFC would love to see Guyana return to the donkey cart days. No progress and development is fine with them.

 Guyana is showing growth on borrowing and not producing. In the US we see how terrible that can be and we are dealing with a first world economy that has the capacity to bootstrap itself. Guyana has demonstrated no capacity to earn its way out of poverty.

FM

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