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Attorney-General Eric Holder has asked Florida's Governor Rick Scott to stop the voter roll purge he's engaged in because the methods violate the 1965 Federal Voting Rights Act.

Florida is important to Mitt Romney's chances, and it's simple. 270 Electoral
Collage votes are needed to win the Presidency. The Obama campaign works on the assumption that it will under- perform 2008, but figure its coalition of
ascendancy - demographics - will trump the Economy. Youth, women and Hispanics versus 8% unemployment.And it's not about yesterday or today, it's about tomorrow and they will draw the sharp differences.

Now here's the thing about 270. Obama has an unassailable base of 246 Electoral College votes. This is the number if the safest of proposition holds - he keeps the 19 States + DC which Kerry won in 2004. Note that this does not include the following States that Obama won in 2008 - Colorado, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, or Virginia.

Noe let's go to the Hispanic South-West. If Obama loses the swing states in the mid-west and the south, as well as Florida, he still gets 272 by holding
Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, and Iowa.

Now for the south. Even if he loses the Hispanic south-west (unlikely) and he
holds North Carolina and Virginia, he gets 274.

If he loses Florida and the south-west and the south swing states, he still get 270 if he holds Ohio and Iowa.

Now Florida. If Obama loses the Hispanic south-west, the swing southern states, the mid-west swing states, and wins Florida's 29 votes, he gets 275.

So you see how important Florida is for Mitt Romney. Lose Florida and he CAN'T win, period. Obama can lose Florida and still win. So Mitt Romney needs Gov Scott to win Florida for him by doing what Cathlene Harris did post-election2000 for G. W. Bush - disenfranchise Democratic voters.

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Originally Posted by Kari:

Karl Rove's people counters with the 3-2-1 strategy - reclaim 3 traditionally Republican States (Indiana, No Carolina, Virginia; win the 2 big swing States (Florida, Ohio); and one from the other States in play. A tall order indeed.


Kari bhai:

 

You know the Rev's mantra:

 

 

The numbers are already in. The egomanaical narcissist and proven failure Barack Hussein Obama will be kicked out of office in November 2012.

 

The Rev is now 99.999% certain that Obummer is a goner.

 

Check this out:

 

In the last 3 presidential elections the winning candidate has won the same percentage of the vote, or within 1% of it, as his party won in the House of Representative popular vote two years before. For example, the democrats won the popular vote 53-45 in the 2006 mid term election; Obama won 52.85% of the votes in 2008.

 

Now, in the 2010 mid term election the Republicans won the popular vote for the house 52-45----you can bet the house, car, farm, and even the wife if you are tired of her on Mitt Romney winning between 51-52% of the votes in November 2012---that will win him the electoral college and the Presidency.

 

THE REV HAS SPOKEN!

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Wally:

Hispanics are going to stay away from the polls.  I think that they have realized that Obama is a conman who will not think twice about using colored people to get the whites to like him.  They also know that Romney don't like them so they will stay away from the polls.

 On what account has Obama conned any of the Hispanics? To the contrary, Hispanics are motivated and there are armies of  activist in a determined ground game to bring them out.

 

Where has he used colored people to get whites to like him? That is so disgustingly simplistic that it is insulting to white people and black people.

FM

This country better get it act together. We are sufferning because our companies are facing greater competition. Every time an American company loses market share to a foreign competitor it translates into job loss unless that company is invested here. We have become the greatest debtor nation. Our Bonds has lost its AAA ratings. Our people are buried under mortgage and credit card debts.

 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Kari:

Karl Rove's people counters with the 3-2-1 strategy - reclaim 3 traditionally Republican States (Indiana, No Carolina, Virginia; win the 2 big swing States (Florida, Ohio); and one from the other States in play. A tall order indeed.


Kari bhai:

 

You know the Rev's mantra:

 

 

The numbers are already in. The egomanaical narcissist and proven failure Barack Hussein Obama will be kicked out of office in November 2012.

 

The Rev is now 99.999% certain that Obummer is a goner.

 

Check this out:

 

In the last 3 presidential elections the winning candidate has won the same percentage of the vote, or within 1% of it, as his party won in the House of Representative popular vote two years before. For example, the democrats won the popular vote 53-45 in the 2006 mid term election; Obama won 52.85% of the votes in 2008.

 

Now, in the 2010 mid term election the Republicans won the popular vote for the house 52-45----you can bet the house, car, farm, and even the wife if you are tired of her on Mitt Romney winning between 51-52% of the votes in November 2012---that will win him the electoral college and the Presidency.

 

THE REV HAS SPOKEN!

 

Rev

 

 

The rev is an ass and treating statistics as wooden blocks that fit only one way. Obama won against the trends the last time and given who Romney is, one given to morphing into any form as he chooses, Obama has a more than good chance to win.

 

Romney has to win in four states, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida and  Virginia. It is unlikely he will win in Florida or Michigan with Pennsylvania and Va being toss ups. Add to that Romney has to hold the red states Obama can lose Florida and win. Similarly with Pennsylvania or any of the others. He does not have to hold all of them. He has more paths to victory than Romney. It will be a drag out fight but obama is going to win in the end because Romney has nothing new to offer.

FM

Rev-sta you are leaving out the important lesson of the 2010 mid-terms, to wit, the TEA-bag nuts took over the asylum and with their debt-ceiling debacle taking the country to the brink and saying that the great US of A will not pay its debt, left voters post-2010 to believe that the inmates have taken over Congress. Now wait for the 2012 backlash Rev-ster.

 

Obama is going the no-core (Bush 2004 flip-flop on Kerry) route, and Romney's Bain involvement is nothing about you (the voter) (like Bush's 2004 swift-boat turning Kerry's military advantage to a negative) route. And Obama hasn't even started with Romney's Massachusetts governor record yet. And his Primary opponents' sound-bites, of which there are, oh, so many choice selections.

 

You will underestimate the Chicago ground game. And remember the ruthlessness of the Obama gang that makes Karl Rove look like a choir boy. Axelrod and co. will hit hard. Chicago is to politics what (well this is bad stereotype) Italians are to Mafia. Don't mess around with Chicago politicians Rev-a-loo-loo

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:

Rev-sta you are leaving out the important lesson of the 2010 mid-terms, to wit, the TEA-bag nuts took over the asylum and with their debt-ceiling debacle taking the country to the brink and saying that the great US of A will not pay its debt, left voters post-2010 to believe that the inmates have taken over Congress. Now wait for the 2012 backlash Rev-ster.

 


kari:

 

This is what you need to address--factual facts:

 

In the last 3 presidential elections the winning candidate has won the same percentage of the vote, or within 1% of it, as his party won in the House of Representative popular vote two years before. For example, the democrats won the popular vote 53-45 in the 2006 mid term election; Obama won 52.85% of the votes in 2008.

 

Now, in the 2010 mid term election the Republicans won the popular vote for the house 52-45----you can bet the house, car, farm, and even the wife if you are tired of her on Mitt Romney winning between 51-52% of the votes in November 2012---that will win him the electoral college and the Presidency.

 

===========================

 

The numbers don't lie kari---once again---In the last 3 presidential elections the winning candidate has won the same percentage of the vote, or within 1% of it, as his party won in the House of Representative popular vote two years before--Obama is done---stick a fork in him---one term president.

 

Rev

FM

You need to look behind the numbers - and stop being a slave to statistics.

Would you grab a beer with Romney or Obama? Drink with a stiff who knows nothing about the ordinary man? The guy with a car elevator whose wife has many Cadillacs and whose money is off-shore in the Cayman Islands so that ordinary Americans cannot benefit from his tax contribution?

 

For those who think that Blacks and Hispanics are not so enthusiastic this time around, remember this - they will see the Black man as President in 2008 as a fluke and there you go again....Black people are unfit for this kind of office. Let the NFL quarterback position infusion of Blacks teach you something. This alone will make blacks and Hispanics more determined to disprove the notion that a minority cannot lead.

 

You're on the wrong side of history, my friend. Like the dos Equis commercial, even mosquitoes are afraid to bite Obama. And you are like a lil mosquito, so your meanderings here are just a waste of your time. Go blow your fart on Fox News.

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:

You need to look behind the numbers - and stop being a slave to statistics.

 


Kari:

 

The Rev will always use facts and numbers to bolster his argument!

 

And the fact is---In the last 3 presidential elections the winning candidate has won the same percentage of the vote, or within 1% of it, as his party won in the House of Representative popular vote two years before.

 

The republicans won the popular vote in the house by 52-45 in 2010---the winning candidate in 2012---Romney---will likely pull in 51-52%.

 

START WORRYING KARI BAI--YOUR HERO HUSSEIN WILL BE SENT PACKING IN NOV.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

Obamacare will bankrupt America.

More people will exploit the gov't medical system like they do with medicaid and medicare. Already, taxpayers are ripped billions in Medicaid fraud each year. Obamacare will only exacerbate this problem push the American economy on the verge of Brankruptcy.

 

It is not perfect. It is compromise forced on it by the Republicans in congress to not hold insurance and big pharma to competitive bids.  I do not like that component to it. People ought to be able to shop but that is what we got given the bottlenecks in the way.

 

Even so it is better than the complete government control of health care in some parts of  Europe where by the way it is going fine even with taxes exceeding 51 percent of income. People in Scandinavian nations expect  maternity leave ( for both parents) day care, health care for free and they do not complain about high taxes.

 

American economy is some 15 trillion in size. It is in a recession and it still outperforms every other nation on the planet. No, we are not going to cascade into default or fall into an irreversible economic black hole. It willl take an asteroid or a natural extinction level event on the planet  for that to happen.

FM
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

THE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS IN DIRE NEED OF JOBS. WITH 25 MILLION AMERICANS OUT WORK THE GOVERNMENT OUGHT TO HELP BUSINESSES GROW SO THAT JOBS ARE CREATED. OBAMACARE WILL ONLY LEAD TO HIGHER TAXATION, HIGHER DEFICIT, AND ADD MORE FAT THE GOV'T BURUEACRACY THAT'S LAZY, INEFFICIENT, AND NOTORIOUSLY UNPRODUCTIVE.  

Indeed government input is necessary to stimulate the economy. The republicans want to give the tax break to the rich ( note they squirreled away 1 trillion dollars as others lost their shirts) increasing th debt another trillion dollars. Further, the are the ones not investing the money given consumer confidence is what is keeping it up.

 

Bush give us homeland security as a consolidating agency when it remains another name for immigration except fatter. We need to be putting money into infrastructure.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Kari:

You need to look behind the numbers - and stop being a slave to statistics.

 


Kari:

 

The Rev will always use facts and numbers to bolster his argument!

 

And the fact is---In the last 3 presidential elections the winning candidate has won the same percentage of the vote, or within 1% of it, as his party won in the House of Representative popular vote two years before.

 

The republicans won the popular vote in the house by 52-45 in 2010---the winning candidate in 2012---Romney---will likely pull in 51-52%.

 

START WORRYING KARI BAI--YOUR HERO HUSSEIN WILL BE SENT PACKING IN NOV.

 

Rev

Rev-moonie.....I thought you understand mid-terms lack the turnout and passion of a Presidential. Look at the arithmetic and you will see how difficult it is for the fake Romney to win. This election will be not about the air game (unemployment number, super-pac money, etc). It will be about the ground game - getting the passion, getting the turn-out. We know that the young, the women, and Hispanics have turned their backs on the Republicans - this is a historical trend. On the aerial game, people know what Obama inherited. They know how much the TEA-bag-controlled Congress and the minority Senate filibuster kept Obama from getting the right legislation passed to provide the environment to get the economy going.

Kari
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

Obamacare will bankrupt America.

More people will exploit the gov't medical system like they do with medicaid and medicare. Already, taxpayers are ripped billions in Medicaid fraud each year. Obamacare will only exacerbate this problem push the American economy on the verge of Brankruptcy.

 

 

You are so pathetic you make me want to send you to a rehab institution. The Affordable Health Care Act is not perfect. It is meant to be a start. We've seen many of the elements of this Bill being accepted by Republicans and the country at large - you can be on your parents medical insurance until 26; an insurance company cannot deny you coverage for pre-existing conditions; more people in the pool so as to ensure the costs are not escalated (this becomes effective in 2014, through the mandate, unless the Supreme Court overturns it), pay-for-service (eliminating wasteful practices), etc.

 

Medicare and Medicaid fraud are just fraud - the Republican reform of vouchers would still not make this disappear - it is an equal-opportunity offender to Billy B and not an Obamacare characteristics. It's been around  even before there was a junior Senator from Illinois who would offend Billy B and Rev-Kooks by becoming the President.

Kari
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

THE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS IN DIRE NEED OF JOBS. WITH 25 MILLION AMERICANS OUT WORK THE GOVERNMENT OUGHT TO HELP BUSINESSES GROW SO THAT JOBS ARE CREATED. OBAMACARE WILL ONLY LEAD TO HIGHER TAXATION, HIGHER DEFICIT, AND ADD MORE FAT THE GOV'T BURUEACRACY THAT'S LAZY, INEFFICIENT, AND NOTORIOUSLY UNPRODUCTIVE.  

 

I forgive your abject ignorance of how Economics is today. BTW, a President does not create jobs. That's for the private sector companies to do. The President's job to to provide the environment for such companies to flourish. That's why the American capital system has been so fantastic in startups and moving capital around to where they're needed. Government has to keep that system from blowing up, like in 2008.

 

You do not know that the Federal bureaucracy has DECLINED under Obama. You do not know that taxation for small business was lowered over 23 times under Obama. Here's something else you may not know - the Fed's open credit policy that has kept interest rates low has kept the Bush-generated debt interest lower than $Â― trillion per annum. So you see how someone other than Obama, and not Obama himself has tremendous influence on a good portion of government expenditure. Do you even know how Bills are passed and how the US government is run? Do you know Obama can be President , but the Republicans, by mis-using the filibuster (by a minority GOP Senate) and a Grover Norquist-led TEA-bag nutcase takeover of the Republican majority in the House, can make Presidential power seem miniscule?

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:
 

..I thought you understand mid-terms lack the turnout and passion of a Presidential.

 


Read this again kari---I'll help you understand it---I know you are a computer guy not a numbers guy:

 

---In the last 3 presidential elections the winning candidate has won the same percentage of the vote, or within 1% of it, as his party won in the House of Representative popular vote two years before.

 

Now kari, it is true that mid term elections lack the turnout and the passion of a presidential election year, but we are talking pecentages---it doesn't matter if a million people voted in the house races in the mid term and 10 million voted in the presidential year---in terms of percentage---this is what we have seen:

 

In the last 3 presidential elections the winning candidate has won the same percentage of the vote, or within 1% of it, as his party won in the House of Representative popular vote two years before.

 

RE: THE 2012 GENERAL ELECTION

 

Mitt Romney will likely receive 51-52% of the votes in the 2012 general election.

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

 

FM

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